Anyone get the feeling that Josie is looking for Sam's fans?

[cath03]

No sooner than Brian tells her that Sam Pepper was favourite to win at one point, she goes to the bathroom for a cry and then the next thing she's telling people that she misses Sam and wishes he was put in. To make matters worse, she not only wants him in because she misses him, but wants him to sort Coolio out.

So she doesn't mention missing her darling John James, JJ, Coirin, Dave or anyone else that she spent more time with and was apparently so close to............no it's Sam she misses.

Okay Josie, we believe you. Nothing at all about trying to win over his fans and overtaking you as a favourite at one time.

And this woman isn't conniving or manipulative?

[Lex]

No sooner than Brian tells her that Sam Pepper was favourite to win at one point, she goes to the bathroom for a cry and then the next thing she's telling people that she misses Sam and wishes he was put in. To make matters worse, she not only wants him in because she misses him, but wants him to sort Coolio out.

So she doesn't mention missing her darling John James, JJ, Coirin, Dave or anyone else that she spent more time with and was apparently so close to............no it's Sam she misses.

Okay Josie, we believe you. Nothing at all about trying to win over his fans and overtaking you as a favourite at one time.

And this woman isn't conniving or manipulative?

At last!!....Eyes are opening!! :xyxwave:

[cath03]

At last!!....Eyes are opening!! :xyxwave:

Not me. I've always seen through her act. I hope if Sam is watching, that he sees through it too.

[InOne]

Well she played the game. That is what it is all about I guess.

[cath03]

Well she played the game. That is what it is all about I guess.

True, but it was mostly under a duvet. Now that she's raised her head above it for a change, let's hope people see through her simple country bumpkin act and see her as the machaeviallan schemer that she really is.

[InOne]

True, but it was mostly under a duvet. Now that she's raised her head above it for a change, let's hope people see through her simple country bumpkin act and see her as the machaeviallan schemer that she really is.

Think she might get drowned out this time, too many big personalities.

[Zippy]

Why would she need Sam fans? She won with 78% of the vote FFS. I seriously doubt he could have ever won by that amount!

She's already won BB11. I doubt she's now determined to win UBB too. Theres only so much energy you can give to winning.

And Sam is so overrated anyways. Just a load of kids getting excited over a childish prat really.

[Jack_]

I seriously doubt he could have ever won by that amount!

Had he made the final instead of Josie along with those other four bores, then yes, would've been the same. It was an engineered percentage, really.

And Sam is so overrated anyways. Just a load of kids getting excited over a childish prat really.

Thought you were a fan? :joker:

[Lex]

Why would she need Sam fans? She won with 78% of the vote FFS. I seriously doubt he could have ever won by that amount!

She's already won BB11. I doubt she's now determined to win UBB too. Theres only so much energy you can give to winning.

And Sam is so overrated anyways. Just a load of kids getting excited over a childish prat really.

It was 78% of the vote against .....well what oposition?.....None, was it!
No one is going to get those sorts of figures when there's any kind of competition Zippy!!....Now come on...you know i'm right! :xyxwave:

[cath03]

Why would she need Sam fans? She won with 78% of the vote FFS. I seriously doubt he could have ever won by that amount!

She's already won BB11. I doubt she's now determined to win UBB too. Theres only so much energy you can give to winning.

And Sam is so overrated anyways. Just a load of kids getting excited over a childish prat really.

It's Josie who's the one who got overexcited about it.......as soon as she heard that he was a favourite. You have to admit that it's a tad suspicious that out of all the people in the house that she got close to including her loved one, that it would be Sam that she misses the most.

And with that in mind, I'd say her mind is definitely still on the game. I don't suppose she can help being a schemer......it's obviously in her nature.

[Zippy]

Had he made the final instead of Josie along with those other four bores, then yes, would've been the same. It was an engineered percentage, really.



Thought you were a fan? :joker:

No. He doesnt have the wide demograph of fans that Josie has. You have to appeal across the board to win by that amount. He doesnt.

And I was a fan until he got spiteful and nasty with Corin. And started sticking his head up John James ass. Not that there was any room left with JJ2s head already up there!

Still kinda like Sam in a way but think his appeal is hugely overrated. Not all voters are on the internet making noise. Just a small percentage.

[Jack_]

No. He doesnt have the wide demograph of fans that Josie has. You have to appeal across the board to win by that amount. He doesnt.

You seriously think JJ, Dave, Mario and Andrew could rack up that big a percentage? They'd never get more than 30% between the four of them.

Would never happen. Whether it was Corin, Sam, John or Josie against those four, they were always going to come out with that percentage.

[Zippy]

You seriously think JJ, Dave, Mario and Andrew could rack up that big a percentage? They'd never get more than 30% between the four of them.

Would never happen. Whether it was Corin, Sam, John or Josie against those four, they were always going to come out with that percentage.

Assuming Sam replaced Josie in the final five..

if Sam would have got less votes than Josie(say he got 300 votes when she got 550 votes) and the other four got the same votes they got then Sams percentage of the total would be much less than 78%. Thats the point.

His fans are just young and loud. Josie appeals to the silent masses sat at home.

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

Why would she need Sam fans? She won with 78% of the vote FFS. I seriously doubt he could have ever won by that amount!

She's already won BB11. I doubt she's now determined to win UBB too. Theres only so much energy you can give to winning.

And Sam is so overrated anyways. Just a load of kids getting excited over a childish prat really.


edited just checked wiki and saw they only did one vote count

so they even fixed it right at the end to GUARANTEE a Josie fat fook win

absolute pathetic joke

Josie 5 chins is a fat fook bunny boiler bitch hippo troll :elephant:

[Jack_]

Assuming Sam replaced Josie in the final five..

That's what I said.

if Sam would have got less votes than Josie(say he got 300 votes when she got 550 votes) and the other four got the same votes they got then Sams percentage of the total would be much less than 78%. Thats the point.

His fans are just young and loud. Josie appeals to the silent masses sat at home.

I see what you mean now, but I disagree. They're all the same group of fans that ensured JJJ kept going this series.

Remember when Ben left over John? I'd put that down to Twitter votes from the JJJ fans. They're all the same crowd for Sam really.

[setanta]

No sooner than Brian tells her that Sam Pepper was favourite to win at one point, she goes to the bathroom for a cry and then the next thing she's telling people that she misses Sam and wishes he was put in. To make matters worse, she not only wants him in because she misses him, but wants him to sort Coolio out.

So she doesn't mention missing her darling John James, JJ, Coirin, Dave or anyone else that she spent more time with and was apparently so close to............no it's Sam she misses.

Okay Josie, we believe you. Nothing at all about trying to win over his fans and overtaking you as a favourite at one time.

And this woman isn't conniving or manipulative?

Nicely said. The woman is such a manipulative little schemer. I can't understand how so many haven't seen in when its been in plain view for me since about week 1.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

She won! She dont need his fans lol

[cath03]

Nicely said. The woman is such a manipulative little schemer. I can't understand how so many haven't seen in when its been in plain view for me since about week 1.

Me too. I could see right through her when she had everyone running after her whilst she lay under that duvet even back then.

[Zippy]

The woman is such a manipulative little schemer.

Dont think so. You've never liked her so....

Josie has shown all sides to herself in that house; she's been crabby, she's been funny, she's been jealous, domineering.....everything really. So I dont see how you can say all that is scheming?

Four weeks back she was well out of the running. Down and out. Disliked. Truth is, all her bad side has only appeared over John James. All the doubts and emotional angst she's been through over him. His lack of loving gestures etc.

Away from him I will defend her hugely because I think she's been great. Kinda like Kate lawler in the way she mixes well with both boys and girls. Tomboyish.

[cath03]

She won! She dont need his fans lol

No according to her, she needs Sam. If you really believe that, you'll believe anything.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

No according to her, she needs Sam. If you really believe that, you'll believe anything.

Jesus your a bit dramatic arnt you.

Josie won. Everyone loves her.Just check facebook and twitter shes everywhere.

You lost.

Deal with it.

[Novo]

Sort Coolio out?

Coolio would make him cry before he could even open his mouth

[cath03]

Sort Coolio out?

Coolio would make him cry before he could even open his mouth

Not according to Josie. :hugesmile:

[cath03]

Jesus your a bit dramatic arnt you.

Josie won. Everyone loves her.Just check facebook and twitter shes everywhere.

You lost.

Deal with it.

There was nothing dramatic about it. If anyone's being dramatic for effect, it's Josie. They were her words, not mine.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

This is what you said to me

"If you really believe that, you'll believe anything"

Your acting like an overdramatic little drag queen. Now get that stilltoe out of your arse and accept that Josie is god!

[Burgz]

Anyone get the feeling YOU GUYS ARE READING INTO EVERY LITTLE DETAIL A LITTLE TOO MUCH 'CAUSE YOU WANNA HATE?!

[Zippy]

Sam wouldnt try half his tricks in the real world. Just like John James he only acted up because he was in a safe, protected enviroment where nobody could do him physical harm.

And just like John James he blubbed like a baby when pulled up about his behaviour! Both toytown rebels.

[setanta]

Dont think so. You've never liked her so....

Josie has shown all sides to herself in that house; she's been crabby, she's been funny, she's been jealous, domineering.....everything really. So I dont see how you can say all that is scheming?

Four weeks back she was well out of the running. Down and out. Disliked. Truth is, all her bad side has only appeared over John James. All the doubts and emotional angst she's been through over him. His lack of loving gestures etc.

Away from him I will defend her hugely because I think she's been great. Kinda like Kate lawler in the way she mixes well with both boys and girls. Tomboyish.

Nah, she's incredibly manipulative and spiteful, full of insecurities and quite vindictive too. Don't be fooled by the "banter" and the cackle - she's extremely aware of how she wrapped the house around her finger. Interesting to see how this UBB thing develops though,

[cath03]

Anyone get the feeling YOU GUYS ARE READING INTO EVERY LITTLE DETAIL A LITTLE TOO MUCH 'CAUSE YOU WANNA HATE?!

If anyone's got hate in them, it's Josie. What has Coolio done to her for her to hide his cigarettes, despite him dishing them out to her, and then wanting Sam in to sort him out?

This is your lovely winner.

[Stevep]

Seriously some of the people on this forum are as bad as John James. Paranoid, cynical and constantly reading too much into things.

Anyone get the feeling YOU GUYS ARE READING INTO EVERY LITTLE DETAIL A LITTLE TOO MUCH 'CAUSE YOU WANNA HATE?!

This.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

If anyone's got hate in them, it's Josie. What has Coolio done to her for her to hide his cigarettes, despite him dishing them out to her, and then wanting Sam in to sort him out?

This is your lovely winner.

OH MY GOD SHE HID HIS CIGARETTES?!?!?!

She must be evil :rolleyes:

Seriously move on.

She won the show with 77.4% of the votes

[cath03]

Seriously some of the people on this forum are as bad as John James. Paranoid, cynical and constantly reading too much into things.



This.

I disagree with the paranoia part of your post, but as for the rest of it, isn't that what a Big Brother forum is for? I.e. analysing and reading into the housemates tactics?

[Burgz]

If anyone's got hate in them, it's Josie. What has Coolio done to her for her to hide his cigarettes, despite him dishing them out to her, and then wanting Sam in to sort him out?

This is your lovely winner.

Perhaps everybody should be perfect then you'd have nothing to pick up on!

Anyway the missing Sam thing was probably more to do with Coolio than anything, due to the fact Sam spoke his mind & talked a lot of sense he might have actually shut Coolio up a little.



Even though i really like Josie, i think you're giving her a little TOO much credit ;)

[cath03]

OH MY GOD SHE HID HIS CIGARETTES?!?!?!

She must be evil :rolleyes:

Seriously move on.

She won the show with 77.4% of the votes

Yeah....hilarious, uh? Pulling pranks that (ironically) she hated Sam doing. The same Sam that she now misses....lol

Hypocritical much?

And like I said before, what has Coolio done to deserve it? And has she owned up to it yet and returned them?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Yeah....hilarious, uh? Pulling pranks that (ironically) she hated Sam doing. The same Sam that she now misses....lol

Hypocritical much?

And like I said before, what has Coolio done to deserve it? And has she owned up to it yet and returned them?

Im off for a wank

ta ta x

[Part-timer]

I saw a bit of the live feed there and she's out of her depth.
Brian Dowling wins this he has too much personality for everyone.
She was talking to him in the kitchen and doing the randy farmer routine that had crab eyes captivated during bb11. Brian didn't even manage a grin..
Just goes to show what an utterly pathetic group of housemates bb11 had.

The more i watch the farmer the more i think see she's a one trick poney.
Namely say something self depricating about your self and follow it up with a loud ignorant laugh.
Then mention John James.

People in there arn't buying it and they don't give a fook about crab eyes. (mr personality) neither.
Why dosn't she just go.

[Zippy]

Im off for a wank

ta ta x

*hands Daniel a box of tissues and a picture of Nadia in a mankini*

[Stevep]

I disagree with the paranoia part of your post, but as for the rest of it, isn't that what a Big Brother forum is for? I.e. analysing and reading into the housemates tactics?

Yeh tbh you're right, but like John James there is just WAY too much cynicism and blind hatred for some housemates in peoples analysist.

Analysing someone is fair enough but SOO many comments on here are just way off the mark imo. Again im not a big Josie fan, but any sane human being can she is an honest, funny and caring person. Fair enough if you dont like her as a housemate, but some of the comments that she is fake, shallow and all the rest are just ridiculous.

I'm pretty sure most people on here would get on with Josie if given the chance, not sure where all the hatred comes from? Bitterness because their hm didnt win? Ridiculous either way.

[MTVN]

Seriously some of the people on this forum are as bad as John James. Paranoid, cynical and constantly reading too much into things.


Yeah I agree, I hate how housemates now have their every action extensively scrutunised to see if they are playing a game, see if they're fake etc.

[setanta]

Yeh tbh you're right, but like John James there is just WAY too much cynicism and blind hatred for some housemates in peoples analysist.

Analysing someone is fair enough but SOO many comments on here are just way off the mark imo. Again im not a big Josie fan, but any sane human being can she is an honest, funny and caring person. Fair enough if you dont like her as a housemate, but some of the comments that she is fake, shallow and all the rest are just ridiculous.

I'm pretty sure most people on here would get on with Josie if given the chance, not sure where all the hatred comes from? Bitterness because their hm didnt win? Ridiculous either way.

You see, I'm moderately sane and I don't believe she's those things. Actually, quite the opposite in alot of ways.

[BB_Eye]

Yeh tbh you're right, but like John James there is just WAY too much cynicism and blind hatred for some housemates in peoples analysist.

Analysing someone is fair enough but SOO many comments on here are just way off the mark imo. Again im not a big Josie fan, but any sane human being can she is an honest, funny and caring person. Fair enough if you dont like her as a housemate, but some of the comments that she is fake, shallow and all the rest are just ridiculous.

There is nothing insane about understanding that Josie's ostensibly redeeming personality traits can easily be feigned by someone with the sufficient cunning. In fact, it is extremely naive and disingenuous to think it can't.

I'm pretty sure most people on here would get on with Josie if given the chance, not sure where all the hatred comes from? Bitterness because their hm didnt win? Ridiculous either way.Nothing to do with that. Just the fact that she is a compulsive liar and an extremely malicious gossip while maintaining a false outward appearance of the simple, jovial, self-deprecating young girl without a vane bone in her body. :rolleyes:

[smudgie]

When Sam was evicted Josie hugged him and said to him "I love you Sam Pepper" a couple of times, all this after hearing the massive cheers he got when his name was called.
Very telling.:hugesmile:

[big_bother]

And Sam is so overrated anyways. Just a load of kids getting excited over a childish prat really.

Yar! :thumbs:

[Shardlake]

No sooner than Brian tells her that Sam Pepper was favourite to win at one point, she goes to the bathroom for a cry and then the next thing she's telling people that she misses Sam and wishes he was put in. To make matters worse, she not only wants him in because she misses him, but wants him to sort Coolio out.

So she doesn't mention missing her darling John James, JJ, Coirin, Dave or anyone else that she spent more time with and was apparently so close to............no it's Sam she misses.

Okay Josie, we believe you. Nothing at all about trying to win over his fans and overtaking you as a favourite at one time.

And this woman isn't conniving or manipulative?


Do you honestly think she even cares about this show now?

She clearly just wants to go home now, to me she even looked dissapointed when she was asked to go back in but felt she had to.

[cath03]

Do you honestly think she even cares about this show now?

She clearly just wants to go home now, to me she even looked dissapointed when she was asked to go back in but felt she had to.

It's interesting that since the events of certain talks that she's had with Brian and Nadia and learning certain snippets of information about the outside world, that she now wishes to go home. I believe that a lot of that information has not been to Josie's liking at all.

Perhaps she feels that the longer she remains, her carefully crafted personna will be rumbled by housemates who are a lot more astute and savvy than she is. Nadia for example, told her that the Keeva situation didn't come across well for Josie. Brian, Nadia, John and Makosi have all made reference to John James that again hasn't pleased Josie.

I think it's a combination of between knowing that if these housemates are taking Keeva's side of things, then Josie knows that she's not going to get away with those tactics.......that and what she must be thinking about the outside world with the John James situation.

And to be fair....I'm sure she also misses her friends and family. She's not inhuman, just not a very appealing person for reasons that have already been posted on the thread.

[Stacey.]

Not really, because yeah Sam annoyed her and everything, but they did actually get on well most of the time.

[sosadbbend]

No sooner than Brian tells her that Sam Pepper was favourite to win at one point, she goes to the bathroom for a cry and then the next thing she's telling people that she misses Sam and wishes he was put in. To make matters worse, she not only wants him in because she misses him, but wants him to sort Coolio out.

So she doesn't mention missing her darling John James, JJ, Coirin, Dave or anyone else that she spent more time with and was apparently so close to............no it's Sam she misses.

Okay Josie, we believe you. Nothing at all about trying to win over his fans and overtaking you as a favourite at one time.

And this woman isn't conniving or manipulative?

Unbelievable how people on here twist things round to match their own warped minds.:nono:

[cath03]

Not really, because yeah Sam annoyed her and everything, but they did actually get on well most of the time.

My point is though, that out of all the housemates that were in the house, she says she misses Sam the most. No mention at all of John James, Andrew, Dave, Corin or JJ.

Sorry, I'm not buying it. I think she's every bit as competitive as ever and saying to the nation that she misses Sam, is like putting a message out there to his fans to back her. Especially when she found out that he was the closest to her in terms of favouritism.

Nothing else makes sense since he was her nemesis in the house regardless of how chummy they became afterwards, and if that's even true and not just a case of keeping the peace to appease John James. Sam supported Mario and John James, not Josie.

[cath03]

Unbelievable how people on here twist things round to match their own warped minds.:nono:

If you disagree, then say so. I don't have a warped mind. I'm just good at reading through bullcrap like Josie's manipulations, that's all.

[truthseeker]

She obviously didnt realise how popular Sam is. When she tried to bich about him, None of them would have it. She tried to turn the house against Sam before and it didnt work.

[chuff me dizzy]

She can look for me until kingdom come,but I will never be a fan of hers ,Sam was by far the best hm8 this year ,Joise isnt fit to kiss his ass cheeks

[cath03]

She obviously didnt realise how popular Sam is. When she tried to bich about him, None of them would have it. She tried to turn the house against Sam before and it didnt work.

It's just a pity that Sam liked John James and stopped pranking on her at his request. Sam was the only one that was bringing out the 'real' Josie. Just disgusted that BB engineered it for him and Corin to be voted out as I think the outcome would've been so different. We might have lost Josie that week if it had been a vote to save.

[212jadore]

agree with this post 100% correct josie is fake

[Ammi]

Whether the little farm, countrybumpkin, self depretiating girl is an act as gameplan or the real Josie - I just dont find it very interesting. It has very limited appeal and I am bored. I think that if she hadn't stayed under the duvet and under the radar with John James all those weeks, a lot of people would have just got bored with her personality and the appeal wouldn't have been there.

If you are not a Josie fan then you dont want to continue to see her on the show each day, trying to manipulate.

If you are a Josie fan then You should see that she's not happy and wish her out to see John James, her family, friends and enjoy the publicity of her win etc

either way I dont see anything she can give or we can want anymore

and I am trying to be unbiased in this

[NettoSuperstar!]

No. He doesnt have the wide demograph of fans that Josie has. You have to appeal across the board to win by that amount. He doesnt.

And I was a fan until he got spiteful and nasty with Corin. And started sticking his head up John James ass. Not that there was any room left with JJ2s head already up there!

Still kinda like Sam in a way but think his appeal is hugely overrated. Not all voters are on the internet making noise. Just a small percentage.

Exactly...Pepper fans are mostly kids on the net...he would never of won, he even went before jon james which just goes to show even Jon had broader appeal than Sam. Most people can see how genuine and funny Josie is which is why she won by the biggest percentage ever

[Jack_]

Exactly...Pepper fans are mostly kids on the net...he would never of won, he even went before jon james which just goes to show even Jon had broader appeal than Sam

Nope, the eviction was in 'no particular order'. The real order [from the highest percentage to the least percentage] was like this:

John
Corin
Sam
Steve

[NettoSuperstar!]

Nope, the eviction was in 'no particular order'. The real order [from the highest percentage to the least percentage] was like this:

John
Corin
Sam
Steve

The eviction was in order, the people staying were in no particular order

[Jack_]

The eviction was in order, the people staying were in no particular order

Nope, the eviction was definitely also in no particular order. The percentages are in these articles:

John: http://www.bbspy.co.uk/0820/news/john-james-evicted
Corin: http://www.bbspy.co.uk/0820/news/corin-evicted
Sam: http://www.bbspy.co.uk/0820/news/sam-evicted
Steve: http://www.bbspy.co.uk/0820/news/steve-evicted

[NettoSuperstar!]

Nope, the eviction was definitely also in no particular order. The percentages are in these articles:

John: http://www.bbspy.co.uk/0820/news/john-james-evicted
Corin: http://www.bbspy.co.uk/0820/news/corin-evicted
Sam: http://www.bbspy.co.uk/0820/news/sam-evicted
Steve: http://www.bbspy.co.uk/0820/news/steve-evicted

really? well thats a bit out of order sending Steve out first if he got less votes...are you sure this isnt internet rumour?

[NettoSuperstar!]

anyway fact remains Josie would have wooped that childs ass

[Jack_]

really? well thats a bit out of order sending Steve out first if he got less votes...are you sure this isnt internet rumour?

Definitely sure. You can find the same percentages on the C4 site somewhere.

I think they sent John out last so it didn't end on an anti-climax with Steve leaving.

But there is no way Steve was ever going to top a Vote to Evict vote.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Definitely sure. You can find the same percentages on the C4 site somewhere.

I think they sent John out last so it didn't end on an anti-climax with Steve leaving.

But there is no way Steve was ever going to top a Vote to Evict vote.

I am well dissapointed if thats true...I thort the public had shown some sense for once!

[Angus]

Sort Coolio out?

Coolio would make him cry before he could even open his mouth

Coolio is a complete joke - his head is so far up his own a*se he can see daylight from the inside of his nostrils. God knows why he thinks he's god's gift:conf: What's to be scared of? It would be Coolio who wouldn't know how to handle Sam, not the other way round:laugh:

[hotleggs]

edited just checked wiki and saw they only did one vote count

so they even fixed it right at the end to GUARANTEE a Josie fat fook win

absolute pathetic joke

Josie 5 chins is a fat fook bunny boiler bitch hippo troll :elephant:

yeah i think its fake as well

**** you big brother i am going of big brother its sooo crap now