John got owned by Nikki

[farhad]

John said Greyhound races dont have hurdles, and its not cruelty to animals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzB5ZrQblXA

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Actually John "owned" nikki

[smudgie]

Actually John "owned" nikki

Agreed. He is an expert on the subject and she is clueless.

[supergirthuk]

Actually John "owned" nikki

Ja Ja Binks owned The Mask for sure.

[farhad]

Actually John "owned" nikki

Only way he wanted to do that is sht her down by shouting at her and he was wrong saying greyhound doesn't involve hurdles, even though he should be an expert in those topic.

[chuff me dizzy]

Not on my Tv she didnt ? all she did was pull stupid faces and talk utter bolox

[farhad]

Not on my Tv she didnt ? all she did was pull stupid faces and talk utter bolox

Its no easy to pull different faces.

[chuff me dizzy]

Its no easy to pull different faces.

You are scaring me !! :shocked:

[grogd]

He would have gone to lots greyhound racing over the years and know that greyhound hurdle races are run. He will have seen many.:conf:

[grogd]

Agreed. He is an expert on the subject and she is clueless.

She was correct too....the dogs may like chasing the bunny, as John put it, but they only have a short time in which they are in their prime, then they are often discarded or mistreated, or put down.

[HBB1508]

She was correct too....the dogs may like chasing the bunny, as John put it, but they only have a short time in which they are in their prime, then they are often discarded or mistreated, or put down.

Yep or adopted by me and I love them to bits :)

[InOne]

Nikki didn't have a clue what she was on about. She kept trying to change the subject then just pulled a stupid face.

[farhad]

Nikki didn't have a clue what she was on about. She kept trying to change the subject then just pulled a stupid face.

That was John who was flicking through subject and he said greyhound race doesn't have hurdles.:joker:

[InOne]

That was John who was flicking through subject and he said greyhound race doesn't have hurdles.:joker:

No it wasn't. John only answered what she on about.

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

Just watched it back, he never said that there arent any hurdles.

Either way the hurdles in greyhound racing arent exactly the same as horse racing, they have no substance to them and arent high at all.

[farhad]

No it wasn't. John only answered what she on about.

She said animal sports are cruel, like fox hunting horse racing and dog racing, how they have to jump those hurdles, he said dog races dont have hurdles and hence just attacked her for it but he was wrong as he knows its cruel, and yes dog racing does have hurdles.

[InOne]

She said animal sports are cruel, like fox hunting horse racing and dog racing, how they have to jump those hurdles, he said dog races dont have hurdles and hence just attacked her for it but he was wrong as he knows its cruel, and yes dog racing does have hurdles.

John would say if he thought it was cruel. If you hadn't noticed, he tells it how it is...

[Niamh.]

She definitely didn't "own" him that's for sure, she obviously didn't have a clue what she was talking about, She really should know about the goings on in these sports if she wants to challenge people about them!

[farhad]

John would say if he thought it was cruel. If you hadn't noticed, he tells it how it is...

Its differing opinion however he was forcing his opinion as its absolute.

[InOne]

Its differing opinion however he was forcing his opinion as its absolute.

If Nikki was a bit more intelligent I'm sure she would've come up with a better answer. No point saying stuff if you can't back it up.

[Niamh.]

If Nikki was a bit more intelligent I'm sure she would've come up with a better answer. No point saying stuff if you can't back it up.

Exactly, If you are going to try and have a debate on TV with a guy who is involved in these sports you really want to know your sh1t!

[farhad]

If Nikki was a bit more intelligent I'm sure she would've come up with a better answer. No point saying stuff if you can't back it up.

John should be an expert in that field but all he did was shout and saying greyhound race doesn't have hurdles.

[InOne]

Exactly, If you are going to try and have a debate on TV with a guy who is involved in these sports you really want to know your sh1t!

She is an airhead really lol She should stick to being a spoilt little bitch.

[InOne]

John should be an expert in that field but all he did was shout and saying greyhound race doesn't have hurdles.

I'd need to watch the clip back but I'm pretty sure he didn't say that. He was on about cruelty and chasing the bunny, and that is as far as it got seen as Nikki couldn't answer.

[Niamh.]

That was John who was flicking through subject and he said greyhound race doesn't have hurdles.:joker:

well if she is that strongly against it she should have known he was lying and said it to him and gave examples of races that had hurdles but she couldn't argue with him cos she didn't have a clue

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

Nikki - oh I don't like greyhound racing,
John - oh, its terrific, terrific
Nikki - So cruel
John - Oh how, what are you, what are you talking about, what do you mean its cruel, why is it cruel, why are they so happy to go and chase the bunny, what is wrong with that
Nikki - because the horses jump over the hurdle and fall over and I just
John - you said you don't like greyhound, whats wrong with greyhound racing,
Nikki - because they're dogs, they're pets
John - Yeah so, they're dogs, they chase, are you so inhuman that you dont let dogs do what they naturally do.....(there is more but still doesnt touch upon it (re: hurdles)


Where was the mention of John saying they don't hurdle?

[farhad]

well if she is that strongly against it she should have known he was lying and said it to him and gave examples of races that had hurdles but she couldn't argue with him cos she didn't have a clue

She did say it has hurdles, john said it doesn't.

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

I'd need to watch the clip back but I'm pretty sure he didn't say that. He was on about cruelty and chasing the bunny, and that is as far as it got seen as Nikki couldn't answer.

Im the same as you InOne, just watched it back, even did a brief transcript, but no mention of there being no hurdles

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

She did say it has hurdles, john said it doesn't.

When did he say it then?

[InOne]

Im the same as you InOne, just watched it back, even did a brief transcript, but no mention of there being no hurdles

Knew it went more like that lol Nikki is clueless

[Lex]

John said Greyhound races dont have hurdles, and its not cruelty to animals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzB5ZrQblXA

What are you on??...Nikki is the girl that was sitting on the wooden horse- John was the old geezer with the big cigar!

Now go and watch it again , and you'll be abled to see Who ended up ...'owning Who'!! :dance:

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

Farhad, I just uploaded the clip onto rapidshare (although only ten downloads allowed apparently)

please watch the clip and tell me where John says what you are saying he said it, because I cant hear it.

http://rapidshare.com/files/415245872/Greyhound.wmv

[Patrick]

It's cruel on the little bunny though.

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

It's cruel on the little bunny though.

can't tell if sarcasm or not.

they don't use a real bunny.

[farhad]

It's cruel on the little bunny though.

Hear hear

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

Hear hear

more like mishear mishear

[Barracute]

as anyone heard of the Greyhound Grand National? Has lots of jumps!!! - he was wrong - Nikki was right and fully entitled to her opinion as a dog owner herself

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

as anyone heard of the Greyhound Grand National? Has lots of jumps!!! - he was wrong - Nikki was right and fully entitled to her opinion as a dog owner herself

How can he be wrong when he didnt say it?

[Jezzy]

Please. How could that screeching, ignorant little creature possibly own *anyone* ?

[Niamh.]

How can he be wrong when he didnt say it?

lmao, I think you owned this argument! No one is answering any of your very rational posts!:hugesmile:

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

lmao, I think you owned this argument! No one is answering any of your very rational posts!:hugesmile:

Is it so wrong that I was even looking at youtube trying to work out how to post the clip there so that I could link it on here.

This is one of the reasons why I haven't been posting on here this season. No debates, full of lies, and insults (Not, referring to this thread in particular there)

Where have the discussions been?

[farhad]

Nikki - oh I don't like greyhound racing,
John - oh, its terrific, terrific
Nikki - So cruel
John - Oh how, what are you, what are you talking about, what do you mean its cruel, why is it cruel, why are they so happy to go and chase the bunny, what is wrong with that
Nikki - because the horses jump over the hurdle and fall over and I just
John - you said you don't like greyhound, whats wrong with greyhound racing,
Nikki - because they're dogs, they're pets
John - Yeah so, they're dogs, they chase, are you so inhuman that you dont let dogs do what they naturally do.....(there is more but still doesnt touch upon it (re: hurdles)


Where was the mention of John saying they don't hurdle?

he did say it as it was on live also and unless you reditted that highlight talk when uploading.

[Niamh.]

Is it so wrong that I was even looking at youtube trying to work out how to post the clip there so that I could link it on here.

This is one of the reasons why I haven't been posting on here this season. No debates, full of lies, and insults (Not, referring to this thread in particular there)

Where have the discussions been?

I agree with you 100%, there is very little decent debate and exchange of facts going on at all this year.

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

he did say it as it was on live also and unless you reditted that highlight talk when uploading.

yeah, because my life is that pathetic I need to edit that.

watch it, you can see its the same as on the show.

Ive just got the live feed of that night now, trying to find it, i'll crop that clip out again.

When did he say it - it will make it easier to find if you can tell me, but I think I won't find it.

[Barracute]

How can he be wrong when he didnt say it?

i am unable to view vids on the pc i am using at the moment - will check when i get home tonight - but i definitely recall him him say to Nikki when she brought up the hurdles issue that she was wrong there werent any - cant remember exact words - he may not have said the word hurdle(s) but definitely stated his belief they dont have them in greyhound racing on LF

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

i am unable to view vids on the pc i am using at the moment - will check when i get home tonight - but i definitely recall him him say to Nikki when she brought up the hurdles issue that she was wrong there werent any - cant remember exact words - he may not have said the word hurdle(s) but definitely stated his belief they dont have them in greyhound racing on LF

Which LF - on computer or on e/c4?

When Nikki mentioned hurdles she was talking about horses, John just ignored the whole point and had a little rant at her.

The rant doesnt appear to be edited, im flicking through my life feed .avi now trying to find it to see though.

[farhad]

i am unable to view vids on the pc i am using at the moment - will check when i get home tonight - but i definitely recall him him say to Nikki when she brought up the hurdles issue that she was wrong there werent any - cant remember exact words - he may not have said the word hurdle(s) but definitely stated his belief they dont have them in greyhound racing on LF

Once you rewatch it give us your feedback as this commentor is trying to twist it to make john mac look good.

[Barracute]

Which LF - on computer or on e/c4?

When Nikki mentioned hurdles she was talking about horses, John just ignored the whole point and had a little rant at her.

The rant doesnt appear to be edited, im flicking through my life feed .avi now trying to find it to see though.

i watch lf online on the offiicial ch4 website, Nikki was talking about hurdles in greyhound racing, as a dog owner herself - she is very into animal welfare issues

[LaLaLand]

I don't see how anyone can say greyhound racing's cruel tbh. I've been to see it many times and the dogs LOVE it, it's great for them!

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

Once you rewatch it give us your feedback as this commentor is trying to twist it to make john mac look good.

Im not trying to twist anything, Im just saying what I have just watched, I gave you the option to see it as well, and you mention the implication that it was edited.

Also John is horse racing not greyhound racing, they are two different sports.

Im not trying to make John look good, just saying what I saw and what happened.

By the notion that you suggested I was trying to make him look good by saying that he didn't say it, are you suggesting that you are trying to make him look bad by saying the opposite?

[farhad]

Im not trying to twist anything, Im just saying what I have just watched, I gave you the option to see it as well, and you mention the implication that it was edited.

Also John is horse racing not greyhound racing, they are two different sports.

Im not trying to make John look good, just saying what I saw and what happened.

By the notion that you suggested I was trying to make him look good by saying that he didn't say it, are you suggesting that you are trying to make him look bad by saying the opposite?

Its not working but he said along the lines and i watched the live feed than this 1 minute convo editted.

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

i watch lf online on the offiicial ch4 website, Nikki was talking about hurdles in greyhound racing, as a dog owner herself - she is very into animal welfare issues

Flickking through my lf avi can't find the chat. which is annoying, mind you its only 2 hours long so might have been before the avi started.

I don't think she is very into animal welfare issues, at least not with the knowledge, she couldnt argue her point very well, and didnt have much of a leg to stand on in the conversation with John. I would say she is very much into animal welfare beliefs, rather than issues. She may do some charity work, and/or give money, but her knowledge seemed to be limited.

However whether thats right or not, whether its cruel or not, thats not the issue her as such. The issue is did John say it, and from what I have seen the answer is no.

Until something comes to light that he said it, then I will go by what I have seen. I will search the life feed discussions now to see if there is any references there.

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

Its not working but he said along the lines and i watched the live feed than this 1 minute convo editted.

Do you have any evidence of this?

also

By the notion that you suggested I was trying to make him look good by saying that he didn't say it, are you suggesting that you are trying to make him look bad by saying the opposite?

(you didnt answer it before)

Im off to check the life feed thread, see what that mentions

[Niamh.]

someone needs to find a link of the convo to put this one to bed!

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

Just looked through the livefeed section and there's no reference to this conversation, however Farhad you yourself were in that thread at one point, it would have made this so much easier if you had mentioned it at the time :)

Going to check digital spy's live thread now...

(I agree Niamhxo, Im fine either way, it really doesnt bother me if he did or didn't as its hardly the crime of the century he's committed here, however, would also like to see if Im in the wrong here, as would happily hold my hands up if there is proof as to what Farhad is currently claiming).

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

hell 84 pages at DS. This could take a while.

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

cant find anything on there either, except the will to die.

[flamingGalah!]

Erm... I have been to "the dogs" before, but saw no hurdles there?? Where exactly do they have greyhound racing with hurdles??? :conf:

And I would have to agree that it isn't cruel, the dogs LOVE running & chasing things, it's what happens to them when they reach a certain age that is cruel...

[Omen]

Erm... I have been to "the dogs" before, but saw no hurdles there?? Where exactly do they have greyhound racing with hurdles??? :conf:

And I would have to agree that it isn't cruel, the dogs LOVE running & chasing things, it's what happens to them when they reach a certain age that is cruel...

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