Are we becoming digispys little sister now?

[luminoussun]

I have noticed threads being closed for no reason...i have noticed it more lately .Sometimes the op makes a valid point but a mod will close it just in case someone else might post something that might be concieved as not pc.
How long before mods start closing threads because they don't agree with the op or even worse because they stick up for a housemate and don't like them being critisised??

ok i have not had any threads closed...but i have noticed one mod seems to be a little more cautious then the rest...mentioning no names ;)

thread closed :xyxwave:
p.s. can you try and keep the posts civil as they do a good job for nothing.....its like being a goalkeeper....you never get thanked for doing a great job...but get earache when they mess up

[Kerry]

My thread was closed for asking everyone to calm down and enjoy the forum or it's likely to be gone

Lets face it. This place is dust after BB. I think Mark ran off and James was left holding the baby but then threw it at Vicky

[luminoussun]

haha i said mention no names grrrrr he said it vicky not me :)

[Kerry]

haha i said mention no names grrrrr he said it vicky not me :)

I'm a girl :bawling:

[Kerry]

We'll be banned too

From a sinking ship http://bestsmileys.com/waving/1.gif

[setanta]

It has happened somewhat, well alot when you consider last year and how much fun it was, or am I being just nostalgic? Or maybe last year was just a better series?

Anyway, yeah - it seems that the mods have been going mental with the yellow cards of late. Not all, but there's obviously some who are going nuts and maybe it's just a case of being more strict during BB season, who knows?! But still, it's a bit mad right now, especially when I hear about the infringements people are getting.

[luminoussun]

I'm a girl :bawling:

oops sorry jaye :conf:...i always thought you was a man :joker:

[Kerry]

oops sorry jaye :conf:...i always thought you was a man :joker:

Nah, Kerry :) Don't think the name was/is available at the time

[luminoussun]

well i am terry...so terry and kerry can get banned together now hehe

[Patrick]

Some mods just aren't cut out for the job and are giving usless infractions that's my take on it.

Were as some mods are excellent.

Some admins needs to fix the site up more and respond to members.

Some admins need to get online more and hire new admins that are online.

Make the world a better place for you and for me, you and for me.. You and for me...






































You and for me.

[Kerry]

well i am terry...so terry and kerry can get banned together now hehe

:joker:

[luminoussun]

You and for me.

ME?? awwww so sweet :thumbs:

[setanta]

Some mods just aren't cut out for the job and are giving usless infractions that's my take on it.

Were as some mods are excellent.

Some admins needs to fix the site up more and respond to members.

Some admins need to get online more and hire new admins that are online.

Make the world a better place for you and for me, you and for me.. You and for me...






































You and for me.

Where has this sensible young Patrick come from over the last few months? You're bewitching me, honestly. Although I miss your mad posts, I still apprectiate how you've toned it all down and just been doing your own thing.

[luminoussun]

Where has this sensible young Patrick come from over the last few months? You're bewitching me, honestly. Although I miss your mad posts, I still apprectiate how you've toned it all down and just been doing your own thing.

maybe he fell in love?? :joker:

[alfiegreen]

maybe he fell in love?? :joker:

doubt that :L

[eye sea]

I had a 'warning' which came as a surprise to me. ;)

[BB_Eye]

I would never be so harsh as to compare the moderators to that awful shower at DS, but I have noticed infractions being handed out for no other reason than somebody told them to do it. I won't go any further into it.

[Stacey.]

Some of the reasons for getting infractions are so stupid seriously. If people keep getting banned like this it's gonna be even more dead than it already is. Three members last night got banned that actually use this forum a lot and post in the BB section. There's at least one person getting banned everyday now, and some of the things that were done weren't worth infractions which led to bans. It should go back to being how it used to be, when you could say your opinion without getting banned.

[Shardlake]

DS forum users are mainly older, weird and uneducated housewives

TiBB forum users are mainly their children

[BBfan46]

Some mods just aren't cut out for the job and are giving usless infractions that's my take on it.

Were as some mods are excellent.

Some admins needs to fix the site up more and respond to members.

Some admins need to get online more and hire new admins that are online.

Make the world a better place for you and for me, you and for me.. You and for me...






































You and for me.
:joker:

[InOne]

I was given 2 infraction points for avoiding the swear filter. And as soon as I messed up again I was banned :bored: Trigger happy mods that don't even contribute to the forum

[Jase]

I have no opinion on this, im scared of being banned :/

[Lex]

DS forum users are mainly older, weird and uneducated housewives

TiBB forum users are mainly their children

I'll be 81years old in october!...I cant stand DS and have had about 5 infractions on this site for absolutely nothing over the last couple of months!
All from the same mod!!...But when you reach my age you start to mellow a little, and just think....Feck em'!!

Oh!...and by the way!...Patrick is still a rude little twat!! :elephant:

[BB_Eye]

I was given 2 infraction points for avoiding the swear filter. And as soon as I messed up again I was banned :bored: Trigger happy mods that don't even contribute to the forum
The swear filter is a pain, but that's the fault of the absent admin who are developing something of an ivory tower mentality if I am being honest, not the mods.

[InOne]

The swear filter is a pain, but that's the fault of the absent admin who are developing something of an ivory tower mentality if I am being honest, not the mods.

I think as long as you're not swearing at someone it shouldn't really be punished, it's pointless. BB is not a kids show, so why is this a kids forum? lol

[yousoboo!]

i had a warning. and fully deserved it. the mods are cool here.

[Shardlake]

I find it objectionable that I am being 'told off', how to behave or I cant talk about something on an internet forum by someone who in all probability is half my age.

Thats generally the reason I get banned from forums and why I've been banned 6 times from DS (twice permanently)

[MojoNixon]

Maybe there is this one new Mod who likes to overuse her powers....

[Jase]

i had a warning. and fully deserved it. the mods are cool here.

kiss ass

[Shasown]

I am amazed this thread has been running nearly 9 hours now and its still open, someone must be sleeping.

Or maybe they like hiding behind the anonymity the warning/infraction/ban system provides them.

[Lex]

kiss ass

That was the very thing that I got one of my infractions for! :hugesmile:

Watch out for Vicky , Jase!! :joker:

[InOne]

That was the very thing that I got one of my infractions for! :hugesmile:

Watch out for Vicky , Jase!! :joker:

Vicky is one of the good ones :nono:

[Stacey.]

Ben's the best mod!

[Lex]

Vicky is one of the good ones :nono:

5 infractions for nothing argues with you InOne!! :xyxwave:

[InOne]

5 infractions for nothing argues with you InOne!! :xyxwave:

Define 'nothing' lol

[arista]

Some mods just aren't cut out for the job and are giving usless infractions that's my take on it.

Were as some mods are excellent.

Some admins needs to fix the site up more and respond to members.

Some admins need to get online more and hire new admins that are online.

Make the world a better place for you and for me, you and for me.. You and for me...






































You and for me.





Which ones?

[Iceman]

*walks in*

*reads posts*

*runs for life*

[MojoNixon]

Ben's the best mod!

Lust for glory stacey?

[Vicky.]

5 infractions for nothing argues with you InOne!! :xyxwave:

I'm intrigued. One because you dont even HAVE 5 infractions, and secondly because of the ones you have I didn't give you them all.

[Stacey.]

Lust for glory stacey?

I don't even understand what you mean?

[Tom4784]

Threads get closed because they'll only cause trouble or if they aim to continue a previous argument or drama but mainly if we think they are troll threads or just plain offensive. At the end of the day we're a lot more laid back then your average forum, a lot of regular people here would be permabanned from other forums by now.

I don't close threads often myself, I usually dole out the infractions and forget to clean up the thread afterwards.

[Jase]

From what iv saw the past few days threads get closed because there is a little heated debate on a forum... whats the world coming too. Who would have thought of a debate on a forum, its just wrong wrong wrong :yuk:

[Vicky.]

People cant 'debate' on here though without resorting to insults and name calling. And reporting each other when someone disagrees with them.

If you want adult debate, go to the serious debates section.

[Lex]

Define 'nothing' lol

Well!...a couple off the cuff would be 'I said that John James fans were'nt wired up properly'!..erm? ...and one poster was getting grief from Vicky for something, and another poster butted in with ' Vicky's a mod and can tell you to anything she wants'!...to which I butted in with a reply to the poster saying ' Creep lol'!...The other three are just as Tame and unworthy of infractions but I cant be bothered to try to remember!
Oh!...One of them was when someone was saying that Ben was a snob for shopping at Harrods or something like that!...and so I replied.."Piss-off to Netto's then,..peasant, and leave Ben alone!'...

If those examples are worthy ?...then this site is just STRANGE, when the likes of some on here get away with exreme ignorance and rudeness!
Oh yeah!...the other two were for saying that Vicky did'nt have a sense of humour !...and that I did'nt think that she was the right kind of person for the job!!

[Patrick]

Which ones?

The ones that give out infractions for something stupid that's not even rule breaking and hide behind the TiBB Staff Account so sadly I don't know who.

[Shasown]

Well!...a couple off the cuff would be 'I said that John James fans were'nt wired up properly'!..erm? ...and one poster was getting grief from Vicky for something, and another poster butted in with ' Vicky's a mod and can tell you to anything she wants'!...to which I butted in with a reply to the poster saying ' Creep lol'!...The other three are just as Tame and unworthy of infractions but I cant be bothered to try to remember!
Oh!...One of them was when someone was saying that Ben was a snob for shopping at Harrods or something like that!...and so I replied.."Piss-off to Netto's then,..peasant, and leave Ben alone!'...

If those examples are worthy ?...then this site is just STRANGE, when the likes of some on here get away with exreme ignorance and rudeness!
Oh yeah!...the other two were for saying that Vicky did'nt have a sense of humour !...and that I did'nt think that she was the right kind of person for the job!!

Problem is you dont know which member of staff give those infractions unless they PM yopu or you ask who gave and why?

Its no good blaming one member of staff simply because they were mentioned at the time.

I think individual staff should PM the member of the forum they have banned, gave an infraction or warning to, and explain what action they have done and why. Not hide behind the TiBB Staff "I have banned you and have a nice day" account.

Mind you it is very Big Brother, hiding behind a screen of anonymity.

[Vicky.]

Well!...a couple off the cuff would be 'I said that John James fans were'nt wired up properly'!..erm? ...and one poster was getting grief from Vicky for something, and another poster butted in with ' Vicky's a mod and can tell you to anything she wants'!...to which I butted in with a reply to the poster saying ' Creep lol'!...The other three are just as Tame and unworthy of infractions but I cant be bothered to try to remember!
Oh!...One of them was when someone was saying that Ben was a snob for shopping at Harrods or something like that!...and so I replied.."Piss-off to Netto's then,..peasant, and leave Ben alone!'...

If those examples are worthy ?...then this site is just STRANGE, when the likes of some on here get away with exreme ignorance and rudeness!
Oh yeah!...the other two were for saying that Vicky did'nt have a sense of humour !...and that I did'nt think that she was the right kind of person for the job!!

Yup, as I thought, either you are under-exaggerating the reasons or you are deliberately being misleading. You have THREE infractions.


One for insulting another member -creep was correct...randomly calling someone a creep is not on. But it was general attitude in that thread that did it. Insulting another member is against the rules

Second for insulting fans of housemates, despite there being a warning at the top of the forum about this. It is again, against the rules

Third for just being cocky...asking me if I would be serving myself an infraction point, because I punished you for insulting fans of housemates, which is against the rules.

The third could be disputed, but its annoying having people moaning on everytime they get an infraction, when they did ACTUALLY break the rules.

--

I dont know where you have got your fabricated version of events from, but what I have just said is visible on your profile...if any other mods/admin want to check, please go ahead.

[BB_Eye]

Problem is you dont know which member of staff give those infractions unless they PM yopu or you ask who gave and why?

Its no good blaming one member of staff simply because they were mentioned at the time.

I think individual staff should PM the member of the forum they have banned, gave an infraction or warning to, and explain what action they have done and why. Not hide behind the TiBB Staff "I have banned you and have a nice day" account.

Mind you it is very Big Brother, hiding behind a screen of anonymity.
I didn't like this idea of making the infraction givers anonymous and I still don't. I know the mods, particularly Vicky were having some issues with people being abusive when they got an infraction, but couldn't that simply be remedied by giving them an automatic ban if they behave that way or extending their ban?

Now we have an even worse situation where people are just speculating or pointing the finger. The mods have effectively been made unaccountable with this TiBB staff account. Do the admin even know who hands out which infraction/warning and where?

[Vicky.]

If those examples are worthy ?...then this site is just STRANGE, when the likes of some on here get away with exreme ignorance and rudeness!


And again, as for this, you dont know when someone else has recieved an infraction.

And I am sick to the back teeth of people moaning that others havent been punished, when 99% of the time, they actually have, but have just decided not to make a song and dance about it.

[Vicky.]

I didn't like this idea of making the infraction givers anonymous and I still don't. I know the mods, particularly Vicky were having some issues with people being abusive when they got an infraction, but couldn't that simply be remedied by giving them an automatic ban if they behave that way or extending their ban?

Now we have an even worse situation where people are just speculating or pointing the finger. The mods have effectively been made unaccountable with this TiBB staff account. Do the admin even know who hands out which infraction/warning and where?

Yeah, admin and other mods can tell who gives what to who.

it still shows up the way it used to.

And yeah, part of the problem was the abuse that we were all getting with nearly EVERY infraction that we were giving out. It gets so tedious and it is impossible to do your job when you are getting hundreds of PMs a day just moaning.

Also, a lot of members agreed that we should have a separate mod/posting account. So TiBB staff appeared

I dont see any reason for people to be speculating about who gave them the infraction anyway, as if you received one, you broke a rule. As Dezzy has said loads of times, if someone receives one that they feel is UNFAIR, IE they did NOT break a rule(not, '***** did that and didnt get an infraction but i did'...or 'it wasnt even a bad rule break')...PM any member of staff and it will be reviewed, or explained in full.

[Lex]

I'm intrigued. One because you dont even HAVE 5 infractions, and secondly because of the ones you have I didn't give you them all.

I have had 5 infractions!...cant tell you 'exactly' when or by whom!
But three or four were while I was in debate when you were involved!!
You even increased one infraction to two , saying that 'it was because I was a pain' when I was refuting the first one!!

Still dont know why not agreeing with YOU is infraction worthy??

[Patrick]

Hmm, Vicky what if we PM you and the infraction we got CAN'T be explain because it WASN'T a rule break?

[Tom4784]

I've said this so often in the past few days but if you want to contest a punishment or infraction then PM me or another mod, If I was behind it we'll talk it through and if I wasn't I'll look over the infraction and IF I think It's a bit rash or hasty or maybe not even harsh enough I'll say so to the mod (which I do anyway and I encourage other mods to do the same to me).

Most of the time we all get it right and sometimes you just got to accept it as causing drama on the forums will only get you in more trouble.

In summary, as long as you are civil feel free to PM me anytime and I'll look into it although 99% of the time I'll agree with the mods.

[Vicky.]

I have had 5 infractions!...cant tell you 'exactly' when or by whom!
But three or four were while I was in debate when you were involved!!
You even increased one infraction to two , saying that 'it was because I was a pain' when I was refuting the first one!!

Still dont know why not agreeing with YOU is infraction worthy??

You have not got any infractions for not agreeing with me :conf:

I just explained to you what infractions you actually have.

[Vicky.]

Hmm, Vicky what if we PM you and the infraction we got CAN'T be explain because it WASN'T a rule break?

What do you mean?

You could just say, the most recent infraction I got, if you honestly cant think of any reason why you got it. Because we can look on your profile and see every infraction and the reasons for them :)

[flamingGalah!]

I've said this so often in the past few days but if you want to contest a punishment or infraction then PM me or another mod, If I was behind it we'll talk it through and if I wasn't I'll look over the infraction and IF I think It's a bit rash or hasty or maybe not even harsh enough I'll say so to the mod (which I do anyway and I encourage other mods to do the same to me).

Most of the time we all get it right and sometimes you just got to accept it as causing drama on the forums will only get you in more trouble.

In summary, as long as you are civil feel free to PM me anytime and I'll look into it although 99% of the time I'll agree with the mods.

If I have received an infraction which I think is unwarranted, I have hit the reply button to ask exactly what I had said that was bad, but I never, ever get a reply... Very frustrating. And it sems to me that one or two Mod's are taking advantage of their Mod status to dish out infractions left, right & centre to forum members who they have had run ins with... This seems to be with the newer Mod's in particular...

[Vicky.]

If I have received an infraction which I think is unwarranted, I have hit the reply button to ask exactly what I had said that was bad, but I never, ever get a reply... Very frustrating. And it sems to me that one or two Mod's are taking advantage of their Mod status to dish out infractions left, right & centre to forum members who they have had run ins with... This seems to be with the newer Mod's in particular...

We dont have access to the PMs on the TiBB staff account thats why you have not received a reply. Only admin do, and I doubt they log into that account, as there isnt really a need to :S

[flamingGalah!]

We dont have access to the TiBB staff account thats why you have not received a reply.

Well it seems a little silly having the option to reply there then?

[Vicky.]

Well it seems a little silly having the option to reply there then?

Yeah I agree actually.

But as Dezzy said, PM a mod about it if you feel you did not break a rule.

It is useless replying to the TiBB staff account :)

[flamingGalah!]

Yeah I agree actually.

But as Dezzy said, PM a mod about it if you feel you did not break a rule.

It is useless replying to the TiBB staff account :)

Ok ta :)

[Shasown]

Yeah, admin and other mods can tell who gives what to who.

it still shows up the way it used to.

And yeah, part of the problem was the abuse that we were all getting with nearly EVERY infraction that we were giving out. It gets so tedious and it is impossible to do your job when you are getting hundreds of PMs a day just moaning.



It may sound silly but if the mod is receiving abuse, then surely so that things can be seen to be fair, they should follow site procedure and complain to another Mod or admin and let them sort the problem.

Also, a lot of members agreed that we should have a separate mod/posting account. So TiBB staff appeared

Think the separate account thing was so that you could be Vicky the mod on one account and be vicky the member in another, not that it would seem to be the staff had a collective shield to hide behind

I dont see any reason for people to be speculating about who gave them the infraction anyway, as if you received one, you broke a rule. As Dezzy has said loads of times, if someone receives one that they feel is UNFAIR, IE they did NOT break a rule(not, '***** did that and didnt get an infraction but i did'...or 'it wasnt even a bad rule break')...PM any member of staff and it will be reviewed, or explained in full.

Hate to pull you up on this one but i got an infraction for insulting some forum members. I called the people posting hate about a housemate buffoons. You know the usual videos that were posted then reposted at least 2 or 3 times an hour by the same FM's. That tends to get a bit annoying. I would have thought it would be classed as spamming.

Surely the only people who could be offended were the hate filled buffoons actually posting the hate. In which case it wasnt an insult, it was a statement of fact.

I did PM staff about it to query it, find out who gave me it, still awaiting a response, mind it expires in a couple of hours so I wont be holding my breath waiting for a resolution.

[Tom4784]

If I have received an infraction which I think is unwarranted, I have hit the reply button to ask exactly what I had said that was bad, but I never, ever get a reply... Very frustrating. And it sems to me that one or two Mod's are taking advantage of their Mod status to dish out infractions left, right & centre to forum members who they have had run ins with... This seems to be with the newer Mod's in particular...

It's best to PM a mod's posting account if you have any concerns over infractions as we can't reply to any Mod Staff PMs.

The thing with infractions is that when we hand them out a new thread is made automatically in Tibb Towers about it so that all mods and Admin can see it, so we can see if there's been any unjust punishments handed out and there hasn't been from what I can recall. Since I and others have become mods we've been able to crack down a bit more then before as there's more mods now so it may feel like we're being unfair but we're just able to keep up better now with reports and such.

[Lee.]

Yeah!! I want to know why I received mine and was banned too then! :laugh:

[InOne]

Well I know who gave me mine but she still keeps quiet :bored:

[Vicky.]

It may sound silly but if the mod is receiving abuse, then surely so that things can be seen to be fair, they should follow site procedure and complain to another Mod or admin and let them sort the problem.


We did do that, quite frequently, but people still go on and on and on about it. Then, if they got banned for refusing to drop it, we had the whole forum up in arms about someone getting banned for challenging something. You see where the problem is?


Think the separate account thing was so that you could be Vicky the mod on one account and be vicky the member in another, not that it would seem to be the staff had a collective shield to hide behind

Possibly. And yeah that would make sense actually.

I dont see why it is classed as a shield though, because as I said before, chances are if you get an infraction, you DID do something wrong. So it shouldnt be challenged in the first place.

And if you do receive one for 'nothing' then all you need to do is PM a mod and it will be looked at.

I really dont get why people feel the need to know WHO they got punished off, as it really makes no difference is you did actually break a rule.



Hate to pull you up on this one but i got an infraction for insulting some forum members. I called the people posting hate about a housemate buffoons. You know the usual videos that were posted then reposted at least 2 or 3 times an hour by the same FM's. That tends to get a bit annoying. I would have thought it would be classed as spamming.

Surely the only people who could be offended were the hate filled buffoons actually posting the hate. In which case it wasnt an insult, it was a statement of fact.

I did PM staff about it to query it, find out who gave me it, still awaiting a response, mind it expires in a couple of hours so I wont be holding my breath waiting for a resolution.

Sorry to hear you got no reply...personally I reply to all 'reasonable' PMs I get, and I can't imagine you sending anything unreasonable. Insulting FMS is still against the rules though, no matter how annoying you find the person in question.

[Tom4784]

Also if you do have any complaints can you PM us after it's happened? We get loads of reports each day so older infractions and reports get lost extremely quickly so it's dificult to trace them down.

[Tom4784]

It may sound silly but if the mod is receiving abuse, then surely so that things can be seen to be fair, they should follow site procedure and complain to another Mod or admin and let them sort the problem.

We do talk about it often in Tibb Towers as certain mods do get targeted for actions they haven't done. Off the top of my head Me, Vicky (repeatedly) and I think Iceman have all been targetted recently and it's annoying and draining as you feel as though you can't do your job as you'll get it in the neck regardless.

There is a lot of discussion on this matter in Tibb Towers though, although some members will always think we have our own vendettas sadly.

[Shasown]

Sorry to hear you got no reply...personally I reply to all 'reasonable' PMs I get, and I can't imagine you sending anything unreasonable. Insulting FMS is still against the rules though, no matter how annoying you find the person in question.

Thanks but I cant say it bothered me either way, I didnt expect to get a reply, even if there had of been a reply it would have been no more helpful than stating, I had insulted forum members.

The particular thread I had responded to had been up on the forum a number of hours. Other more offensive insults, some subtle some not so subtle, had already posted and allowed to remain viewable.

Obviously a line has to be drawn somewhere, but come on some of the threads are a direct insult to the intelligence of forum members. But they arent offensive and thats where the line should be drawn, not simply because something could be deemed to be insulting.

Incidentally I have also noted one or two posts by staff that are offensive or insulting, what happens when a member reports a moderator for example for an inflammatory or insulting post, would the reported staff post be looked at with the same diligence as that of a normal FM?

[Vicky.]

Thanks but I cant say it bothered me either way, I didnt expect to get a reply, even if there had of been a reply it would have been no more helpful than stating, I had insulted forum members.

The particular thread I had responded to had been up on the forum a number of hours. Other more offensive insults, some subtle some not so subtle, had already posted and allowed to remain viewable.

Obviously a line has to be drawn somewhere, but come on some of the threads are a direct insult to the intelligence of forum members. But they arent offensive and thats where the line should be drawn, not simply because something could be deemed to be insulting.

Incidentally I have also noted one or two posts by staff that are offensive or insulting, what happens when a member reports a moderator for example for an inflammatory or insulting post, would the reported staff post be looked at with the same diligence as that of a normal FM?

Moderators cannot actually give infractions to each other. Though I would say if the post was extremely offensive, the mod would be stripped of their position and banned. Not that I believe this has happened before.

As for the thread you were talking about, people should report things that they deem unsuitable. Chances are, your comment was reported and thats why it was brought to our attention.

As for the other insults...I cant really comment as I dont know anything about it, but they may have received infractions also. Though why the posts weren't deleted is a mystery to me. If I give out infractions, I usually delete the posts afterwards, to avoid it carrying on. From what I have seen, others do the same :/

Though obviously I do not read every thread, so cant just make a sweeping statement about it all.


Edit. I actually looked back over the thread you are talking about, other comments were also deleted, and other infractions given out. Of the posts that are still there, I dont see anyone actually insulting each other. Going a bit over the top in their dislike of a housemate, but not insulting each other. Though to be fair, the whole thread should have been deleted as soon as it was opened, as it was another totally pointless thread started by the OP.

[luminoussun]

aawww i am so glad you did'nt take my post the wrong way and thanks everyone for keeping it a civil chat

[Shiner]

Interesting thread.

I think to avoid any further confusion, it should be included in your chirpy "you have an infraction" PM what the appropriate steps are to discuss your infraction.

I have had 2. One for correcting someone's text speak (which I understand is against the rules) and a second for cracking a multi layered joke about being thick, which ironically could only be taken wrongly if you happened to be unbelievably dense and unable to work out the joke. Annoyingly after I explained the intent of the joke, my explanation got deleted which made me look a right twat and I got an infraction. Having never had anything like that happen to me in all my years on various fora, I contested both infractions in a calm and friendly manner but got no reply. I was left with the feeling that the TiBB Staff didn't care that my infractions were unfair or not.

I now know that no matter how nicely you do it, you can't just reply to the TiBB Staff PM you get. :D

[Niamh.]

Maybe there is this one new Mod who likes to overuse her powers....

lmao, I assume you're talking about me and I can assure you I don't "overuse my powers" at all, you fully deserved your infractions:hugesmile:

[GiRTh]

Just noticed this thread. I'm amazed its still open.

There are offensive threads about bulls**t all over this forum yet they go untouched but as soon as a controversial subject is toucehd on the mods lurk like vultures to end any kind of meaningful discussion. In days gone by, members were allowed to debate openly and honestly. Sadly that is no longer the case on this forum.

Its quite clear from the many posts in this thread, the infraction system simply isn't working. The reason given are often seen as trivial or under explained. The mods seem happy giving them out but unhappy justifying them. The old system was so much clearer.

[GiRTh]

lmao, I assume you're talking about me and I can assure you I don't "overuse my powers" at all, you fully deserved your infractions:hugesmile:
LMAO. Thats why I'm surprised this thread is still going. The mods are arguing with us. Priceless.:wink:

[Vicky.]

Its quite clear from the many posts in this thread, the infraction system simply isn't working. The reason given are often seen as trivial or under explained. The mods seem happy giving them out but unhappy justifying them. The old system was so much clearer.

If you mean the old 3 strikes and you are out system, where the first warning was an automatic 24 hour ban, second a week and third permanent, then I fully agree.

I actually miss the old forum, people didnt play up as much, with infractions they can get away with a LOT more, and my god don't people try testing the boundaries. With the old system they couldnt do that.

[Shiner]

LMAO. Thats why I'm surprised this thread is still going. The mods are arguing with us. Priceless.:wink:

It's like you are challenging them to do it. Which kinda defeats the purpose of the thread doesn't it?

[InOne]

Thing is the amount of point you give for different things are really incosistent. Do you have anything to go by or do you just give the amounts with your own judgements?

[GiRTh]

If you mean the old 3 strikes and you are out system, where the first warning was an automatic 24 hour ban, second a week and third permanent, then I fully agree.

I actually miss the old forum, people didnt play up as much, with infractions they can get away with a LOT more, and my god don't people try testing the boundaries. With the old system they couldnt do that.It was so much clearer. I think the biggest problem with this system is that it's just not clear enough for you guys to enforce it without the many complaints. I think you guys do a good job - in the main :whistle: - but the system hampers you're ability to do it.

[Vicky.]

Thing is the amount of point you give for different things are really incosistent. Do you have anything to go by or do you just give the amounts with your own judgements?

Certain things have set amounts, other have to be custom... though obviously depending on the severity of the post, the amount of points is altered.

[GiRTh]

It's like you are challenging them to do it. Which kinda defeats the purpose of the thread doesn't it?No. Niamh first point in her post was that she was sure the comment was directed at her. If she felt that way she should have PM'd the forum member and kept that kind of comment it off the forum. Just my own personal view.

[Glenn.]

Im not sure whether Ive got infractions. I think they were just warnings, (or are they the same thing?), but I thoroughly deserved them:xyxwave:
I have no problems with mods on here, can't really see what the fuss is about. If you broke the rules then you deserve punishment. Simples:hugesmile:

[Vicky.]

LMAO. Thats why I'm surprised this thread is still going. The mods are arguing with us. Priceless.:wink:

Also, I dont see what the problem is with this, since this thread was sort of designed for this kind of thing. As long as insults are not thrown...from either side, there shouldn't be a problem.

Which is the same rule as in other threads...notice in serious debates, people argue all the time, but because they put their point across well, (usually) not resorting to petty name calling and that, the threads are fine. There are also a few threads in the BB sections that are full of 'arguing'...though I personally call intelligent arguing debating...that have not been deleted.

As long as it stays on topic, and no rules are broken, its perfectly fine :)

[Shiner]

Im not sure whether Ive got infractions. I think they were just warnings, (or are they the same thing?), but I thoroughly deserved them:xyxwave:
I have no problems with mods on here, can't really see what the fuss is about. If you broke the rules then you deserve punishment. Simples:hugesmile:

Yeah they are the same but they show up on your profile for x amount of time until they expire.

[Glenn.]

Yeah they are the same but they show up on your profile for x amount of time until they expire.

Oh cool:elephant:

[Niamh.]

No. Niamh first point in her post was that she was sure the comment was directed at her. If she felt that way she should have PM'd the forum member and kept that kind of comment it off the forum. Just my own personal view.

well everyone else is publicly talking about their issues. Or do you not want respond at all?

[Beso]

how do you become a mod on here?

[Vicky.]

how do you become a mod on here?

Every now and then we will need new moderators...when that happens usually thread is made asking you to apply.

We then look at all of the applications...take into account previous bans/warnings, and decide who we think is best suited for the job :)

[Niamh.]

how do you become a mod on here?

when they need more mods admin ask people who would like to be one to apply and say why they think they would be a good mod and they choose

[GiRTh]

well everyone else is publicly talking about their issues. Or do you not want respond at all?
Oh dear.

[Niamh.]

Oh dear.

oh dear what?

[GiRTh]

Also, I dont see what the problem is with this, since this thread was sort of designed for this kind of thing. As long as insults are not thrown...from either side, there shouldn't be a problem.

Which is the same rule as in other threads...notice in serious debates, people argue all the time, but because they put their point across well, (usually) not resorting to petty name calling and that, the threads are fine. There are also a few threads in the BB sections that are full of 'arguing'...though I personally call intelligent arguing debating...that have not been deleted.

As long as it stays on topic, and no rules are broken, its perfectly fine :)Post used to be deleted but the discussion continued. That doesn't happen much these days. The threads are closed with little explanation leaving us infuriated.

[GiRTh]

oh dear what?
It's just my own personal opinion that discussions like this should occur off forum.

[Vicky.]

Post used to be deleted but the discussion continued. That doesn't happen much these days. The threads are closed with little explanation leaving us infuriated.

Yes, well maybe it gets tiresome removing the same arguments from the same people over and over again. Only to know that it is going to start again the minute it is reopened.

I have even seen people keep copies of quotes of the last thing that was said before the lock, so that when it is opened again(after being closed) they could continue on the argument.

And personally I always give a reason when locking a thread, and often remove the arguments and then reopen it. Except when it is clear that the above will happen...

[Niamh.]

It's just my own personal opinion that discussions like this should occur off forum.

fair enough:hugesmile:

[cath03]

I have to admit that I'm a digispy longterm member. However, lately they are far too ready with their banning as soon as some trigger happy fan doesn't like their fave being slagged off.

One policy that I've always adhered to and actually like about Digispy, is not to slate another forum member. I've never went down that route at any time.

But as far as the housemates are concerned, then they are fair game to be called out for a slagging so long as it isn't derogatory, inflammatory of libelious.

I got banned for calling Josie an 'attention seeking *****'.....and her fans took offence to the '*****' part of that.

That's how stupid some people are....and also how strict Digispy are in tying themselves up somewhat within their own rules. Anyway, I disputed it and put my point across and my ban was reduced. But nevertheless, I really disagree that I should have been banned at all considering that I went on in that thread to try and explain the context of what that statement meant......i.e. the worst type of attention seeker, and not a ***** per se. To no avail of course.

But I digress. What I like about this forum is that it is more flexible in members being free to share more controversial opinions. However, I dislike the personal insults aimed at forum members.

[Mystic Mock]

i know i deserved an infraction for this but when i opened up a calmer thread about which housemates fans do you get on with best,i got banned but the other thread about the same thing was being rude about other fans of housemates and acting like a troll but they didnt get banned.

and then the mod said we warned you and you pushed your luck by then opening up the same thread.

1.it was on that thread anyway so no i didnt get warned.
2.do they think we all read the same threads?

[Shiner]

....And personally I always give a reason when locking a thread, and often remove the arguments and then reopen it. Except when it is clear that the above will happen...

I think you are pretty much on the money most of the time Vicky but you closed one thread tonight with the explanation that it was "disgusting and prejudiced". On the face of it, I didn't see this at all (I don't follow the OP's other posts so don't know if there was a hidden agenda) but I did see that the HM being ribbed was top of your sig list. I'm not saying you were wrong to close it, as the thread had no real value other than humour but I do feel that your decision wasn't entirely impartial.
This must be the toughest part of a mod's job on here, considering that to bother being here in the first place you have to be a BB enthusiast but to close thread that conflicts with a vested interest doesn't look good.
Which brings up another point. Do the mods on here all support the same type of HM or are they spread over the spectrum? I've not really paid much attention to it but from what I have noticed they tend to go for similar types. I mean how many mods on here were Ben, Mario, Dave types?

[Vicky.]

Who a mod supports makes not the slightest bit of difference when it comes to actually modding. But, not that it matters, yes there are fans of every housemate on the tibb staff team :)

The thread in question was closed because of blatant transphobia. I don't know if you read the thread that Dezzy posted on this matter or not. But basically, we dont allow prejudiced comments/jokes on this forum. Which I felt that thread was. Hence calling it disgusting. I don't think many would disagree that is was in bad taste.

People can slag off mods favorites until they are blue in the face, and nothing will be done. Unless the comments in question are over the top (such as wishing harm to come to housemates, something else that has been on the rise recently) or discriminative.

[Jase.]

I've had infractions over the most retarded of things. It's just so laughable.

[Vicky.]

Fancy editing your language there ja$e? or there will probably be another coming your way in a minute :/

Some words are deemed unacceptable on the forum...to be used in the sense that you just did anyways, as most of you know

[Shiner]

Who a mod supports makes not the slightest bit of difference when it comes to actually modding. But, not that it matters, yes there are fans of every housemate on the tibb staff team :)
It may not make any difference to the mods but for us punters it does matter a lot that we feel that the site is run with impartiality. :)

The thread in question was closed because of blatant transphobia. I don't know if you read the thread that Dezzy posted on this matter or not. But basically, we dont allow prejudiced comments/jokes on this forum. Which I felt that thread was. Hence calling it disgusting. I don't think many would disagree that is was in bad taste. We'll have to agree to disagree. I felt that although very childish in it's content, the thread in question didn't "prejudice" anyone at all. I'd also go as far as to speculate that the HM being referred to would see the funny side of that particular joke and come back with a killer line. :D Like I said the locking of that thread is not major loss to the forum.
No I didn't catch Dezzy's thread.

People can slag off mods favorites until they are blue in the face, and nothing will be done. Unless the comments in question are over the top (such as wishing harm to come to housemates, something else that has been on the rise recently) or discriminative. That's good to know. Keep up the good work. It is appreciated.

[luminoussun]

After reading everything i am glad i made this thread because we have had a civil grown up chat and everyone said what they wanted in a adult way.
I been a mod before and it's a thankless task.
I appreciate what you do in your own time for us lot.
I just felt like we are going from BBBm to bblb and digispy is bblb already

[luminoussun]

bump :)