Homophobic Victor

[chuff me dizzy]

Just called brian a "cock sucker"on live feed ,dirty lowlife ,Brian is more of a man than this gutter trash could ever be

[Zippy]

Brian is technically a cock sucker.

Hello.

[Big_Kahuna]

Brian does suck cocks though.
Don't get me wrong I like Brian.
Brian called Victor 'another brother' in tonights episode.
love

[chuff me dizzy]

Victor is a black man ,if anyone had a go at him for this you lot would be up in arms ,double standards

[daniel-lewis-1985]

OMG Cant people have banter anymore without people shouting HOMOPHOBIA! or RACISM!

Lighten up for gods sakes.

Enjoy your life and stop thinking into things to much

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Victor is a black man ,if anyone had a go at him for this you lot would be up in arms ,double standards

No i wouldnt. Not if it was just harmless banter.

[chuff me dizzy]

Brian does suck cocks though.
Don't get me wrong I like Brian.
Brian called Victor 'another brother' in tonights episode.
love

What "race" is ANOTHER BROTHER ?it must be similar to "POPPADOM"

[Big_Kahuna]

OMG Cant people have banter anymore without people shouting HOMOPHOBIA! or RACISM!

Lighten up for gods sakes.

Enjoy your life and stop thinking into things to much

Shut up you tampon lol

[chuff me dizzy]

No i wouldnt. Not if it was just harmless banter.

YOU may not ,hundreds would

[Zippy]

Its like if Brian called Victor a muff diver. So what?

[BBfan46]

If they were joking, it's cool, but I bet Big Brother may play the 'mutual agreement' card again :joker:

[spitfire]

What "race" is ANOTHER BROTHER ?it must be similar to "POPPADOM"

Whats homophobic about calling someone a cock sucker?

[Big_Kahuna]

What "race" is ANOTHER BROTHER ?it must be similar to "POPPADOM"

chill your beans homeboy

[chuff me dizzy]

Its like if Brian called Victor a muff diver. So what?

HOMOPHOBIA fact !

[chuff me dizzy]

chill your beans homeboy

What part of the USA are you from ?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

[QUOTE=chuff me dizzy;3739561]YOU may not ,hundreds would[/

Does it actually bother you or are you only bothered coz you think you should be bothered?

If banter like this seriously offends you then you need to get out in the real world and toughen yourself up

[Jack_]

Homophobia :joker: :joker: :joker:

[BBfan46]

I'm on chuff's side, it's moreso the fact he would think of the fact he's gay to insult him, instead of the fact Brian looks like a furby.

[Zippy]

HOMOPHOBIA fact !

He hasnt shown any homophobia that Ive seen.

He got on very well with Marco in BB5. And there's no bigger screaming queen than Marco!

[Big_Kahuna]

I'm from liverpool el dudo

STOP STEREOTYPING ME

[chuff me dizzy]

He hasnt shown any homophobia that Ive seen.

He got on very well with Marco in BB5. And there's no bigger screaming queen than Marco!

You need to watch live feed love, you would not look so daft

[chuff me dizzy]

I'm from liverpool el dudo

Speak English then

[Chuckyegg]

I reckon a lot of people think there is a bunch of gay men hanging around somewhere, waiting to be offended by everything. Cock sucker is a general insult, like motherfckr. Victor is both of these.

[Zippy]

[QUOTE=chuff me dizzy;3739561]YOU may not ,hundreds would[/

Does it actually bother you or..

She doesnt really care. Just using it to hate on Victor with. God forbid he said anything bad about her fave HM!

[LexDex]

whats wrong with sucking cock? LOL I dont think he is homophobic! I was pleseantly surprised when Victor asked Nadia "Do You wanna sit down?" and got up and offered her his seat! What a gentleman! I was speechless! So different to BB5! But I guess he is playing the game again.

[Big_Kahuna]

Speak English then

That's racist

[chuff me dizzy]

I'm on chuff's side, it's moreso the fact he would think of the fact he's gay to insult him, instead of the fact Brian looks like a furby.

my point is IF Brian was to mentions Vics colour this place and the Daily Star(:joker:) would be up in arms ,when Jade said POPPADOM even the PRIME FOOKING MINISTER made a speech about it in Westminster ,but this lowlife can say homophobic things and its ok ?NO ITS NOT

[Zippy]

You need to watch live feed love, you would not look so daft

Funny, I dont see anybody else claiming he's homophobic. Just little you.

How odd.

[Shasown]

That's racist

How?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I'm on chuff's side, it's moreso the fact he would think of the fact he's gay to insult him, instead of the fact Brian looks like a furby.

Wacth out its the pc police!

[chuff me dizzy]

That's racist

As if i give a $h1t

[Big_Kahuna]

How?

Read back you mug

[Big_Kahuna]

As if i give a $h1t

So 'homophobia' isnt cool but racism is?

[chuff me dizzy]

Funny, I dont see anybody else claiming he's homophobic. Just little you.

How odd.

Because the only sheep answering are Vic gangster molls ,which is SUCH a joke as he is to being a "gangster hard man "what I am to glass blowing

[Shasown]

As if i give a $h1t

Well you bloody should, and might I just add I think your avatar with the infant smoking a cigarette is disgusting, as the father of a deceased infant who died from lung cancer caused by her 80 a day habit I think its incredibly insensitive.

[Chuckyegg]

Brian gave Victor a blow job a couple of years ago which kind of explains a lot.

[BBfan46]

Wacth out its the pc police!

Too ****ing right, someone explain to me, how after the civil rights movement and all the suffering and pressure to be politically correct, it's still okay, to single people out based on tiny attributes of their lives? It's stupid, it makes no more sense then insulting someone for being left-handed.

[Big_Kahuna]

Brian gave Victor a blow job a couple of years ago which kind of explains a lot.

WINNING POST haha

[Shasown]

Read back you mug

gum ouy ???

I dont get it.

[billy123]

To shout fake claims of homophobia just because its someone you dont like is childish,irresponsible and frankly pathetic.

[Zippy]

Brian would be ten times more insulted if you called him fat.

I dont know any gay man that would be insulted by being called a cock sucker. Theyd be like; and?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I reckon a lot of people think there is a bunch of gay men hanging around somewhere, waiting to be offended by everything. Cock sucker is a general insult, like motherfckr. Victor is both of these.

Says you? lol

[chuff me dizzy]

Too ****ing right, someone explain to me, how after the civil rights movement and all the suffering and pressure to be politically correct, it's still okay, to single people out based on tiny attributes of their lives? It's stupid, it makes no more sense then insulting someone for being left-handed.

Im left handed !!! :xyxwave:

[chuff me dizzy]

Brian would be ten times more insulted if you called him fat.

I dont know any gay man that would be insulted by being called a cock sucker. Theyd be like; and?

Brian never heard him ,as per usual the "big tough Vic" said it behind his back wuss

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Too ****ing right, someone explain to me, how after the civil rights movement and all the suffering and pressure to be politically correct, it's still okay, to single people out based on tiny attributes of their lives? It's stupid, it makes no more sense then insulting someone for being left-handed.

People like you are making it worse for gay people.

Your singling us out by constantly protecting us from what you think might be offensive WHich then makes other people tip toe around us and feel like they have to walk on eggshells which then drawers attention to our sexuality which we do not wanna be judged on

We are just like everyone else and can take a bit of banter.

[BBfan46]

Brian would be ten times more insulted if you called him fat.

I dont know any gay man that would be insulted by being called a cock sucker. Theyd be like; and?

I think the thing is more to do with double standards if Brian called Victor the N Word, he'd get cancer and die but Victor would have no repercussions for this.

[chuff me dizzy]

To shout fake claims of homophobia just against someone you dont like is childish,irresponsible and frankly pathetic.

But 100% truth

[BBfan46]

People like you are making it worse for gay people.

Your singling us out by constantly protecting us from what you think might be offensive.

We are just like everyone else and can take a bit of banter.

and when exactly were you appointed Emperor of gay people? and like everyone else? I don't think so. No one can take a joke in this age.

[Chuckyegg]

This is like being back at school.

[chuff me dizzy]

I think the thing is more to do with double standards if Brian called Victor the N Word, he'd get cancer and die but Victor would have no repercussions for this.

EXACTLY !! THIS is my point too

[chuff me dizzy]

This is like being back at school.

i know ..pathetic isnt it ?

[Big_Kahuna]

i know ..pathetic isnt it ?

Step away from the bottle of vodka

[daniel-lewis-1985]

and when exactly were you appointed Emperor of gay people? and like everyone else? I don't think so. No one can take a joke in this age.

I AM GAY! And know that the way you are behaving is doing me or other gay people no favours. Stop treating us like toddlers

[chuff me dizzy]

I AM GAY! And knwo that the way you are behaving is doing me or other gay people no favours

As I have said you dont have to be gay to be offended by homophobia ,white people were up in arms over Jade saying poppadom

[luminoussun]

omg its just a insult i would say to any man.
It is not somethiing to bully gay men...i say it as a insult to my mates.
God you so have to get off this hate victor trip your on.
Just because he said 1 thing about your brian...get over it...brian has

[Beso]

If brian has ever sucked cock, i'll eat my own sh!t.

[Zippy]

I think the thing is more to do with double standards if Brian called Victor the N Word, he'd get cancer and die but Victor would have no repercussions for this.

Youre comparing apples and oranges.

Cock sucker is a general insult often used against straight guys too. Its not a specifically homophobic insult.

[BBfan46]

I AM GAY! And know that the way you are behaving is doing me or other gay people no favours. Stop treating us like toddlers

News flash, you're not some Emperor, you have no right to speak for a whole group of people, I'm simply conveying the point that equality is necessary. Who the **** told you, you were Jesus?

[chuff me dizzy]

Big Vic is now threatening Aisylene on live ,feed ,what a BIG rufty tufty he is .......coward

[BBfan46]

Youre comparing apples and oranges.

Cock sucker is a general insult often used against straight guys too. Its not a specifically homophobic insult.

Congratulations, you've won the bull**** post of the day award.

[chuff me dizzy]

omg its just a insult i would say to any man.
It is not somethiing to bully gay men...i say it as a insult to my mates.
God you so have to get off this hate victor trip your on.
Just because he said 1 thing about your brian...get over it...brian has

But he didnt say it about "ANY MAN" he said it about the gay man in the house

[daniel-lewis-1985]

News flash, you're not some Emperor, you have no right to speak for a whole group of people, I'm simply conveying the point that equality is necessary. Who the **** told you, you were Jesus?

Ive been on the gay scene since i was 15 i know what my people want and its not to be parented by organisatons and so called do gooders like yourself.

AND WE ARE ALREADY EQUAL!

[daniel-lewis-1985]

News flash, you're not some Emperor, you have no right to speak for a whole group of people, I'm simply conveying the point that equality is necessary. Who the **** told you, you were Jesus?

Ive been on the gay scene since i was 15 i know what my people want and its not to be parented by organisatons and so called do gooders like yourself.

AND WE ARE ALREADY EQUAL!

And your calling me jesus?

Excuse me but your the one whos trying to heal the world lol

[luminoussun]

dizzy why is it i can get brians sense of humour even though its bitch and sometimes spiteful...but you can't get victors humour??? not racist are you? joke ...but it is as pathetic as you accusing victor being homophobic over a common insult i call my mates

[Zippy]

Congratulations, you've won the bull**** post of the day award.

I think you had that title sewn up already looking at the smug crap you type.

Certain of it. :xyxwave:

[Beso]

Well you bloody should, and might I just add I think your avatar with the infant smoking a cigarette is disgusting, as the father of a deceased infant who died from lung cancer caused by her 80 a day habit I think its incredibly insensitive.

Your child smoked 80 a day?

[Shasown]

So if Victor said it to a woman, would the PC brigade be on their high horses saying it was a sexist remark?

Isnt it really because you dont like Victor, and its just a convenient excuse to slag him off

[Beso]

Ive been on the gay scene since i was 15 i know what my people want and its not to be parented by organisatons and so called do gooders like yourself.

AND WE ARE ALREADY EQUAL!

the gay scene!!!


see, it's you lot that discriminates.:joker:

[Shasown]

Your child smoked 80 a day?

Yep every day of her 6 months we had to tape them to her mouth sometimes.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

the gay scene!!!


see, it's you lot that discriminates.:joker:

what?

[Beso]

Yep every day of her 6 months we had to tape them to her mouth sometimes.

I don't know wether to laugh or cry!!:nono:

[Shasown]

I don't know wether to laugh or cry!!:nono:

Well I just thought if everyone else was spouting sh1te I may as well join in.

[Beso]

what?

you, with the gay scene, and gay bars etc..**** sake, imagine if we had the words straight bar and straight scene banded about like gay scene and gay bar..uproar, screeching uproar from the gayers.:blush:

[BBfan46]

Ive been on the gay scene since i was 15 i know what my people want and its not to be parented by organisatons and so called do gooders like yourself.

AND WE ARE ALREADY EQUAL!

And your calling me jesus?

Excuse me but your the one whos trying to heal the world lol

You think gay people are seen as 'equal', then you've fortunate, blind or stupid, not decided which one yet.

[luminoussun]

i know what my people want and its not to be parented by organisatons and so called do gooders like yourself.
AND WE ARE ALREADY EQUAL!

The first thing i agreed with you on...we are equal now.
Why should i not call brian a insult i call a straight man...he is the same as a straight man...i have gay mates and except for a few forbiden words they banter with me as good as any straight

[BBfan46]

I think you had that title sewn up already looking at the smug crap you type.

Certain of it. :xyxwave:

Just some simple word equations for you;

Victor + Brian + x = Banter/Argument

x= insults

Cock sucker = insult
Gay men = Brian = Sucks cock = Homophobic insult.

Got that?

[Chuckyegg]

you, with the gay scene, and gay bars etc..**** sake, imagine if we had the words straight bar and straight scene banded about like gay scene and gay bar..uproar, screeching uproar from the gayers.:blush:

Epic and hilariously naive.

[Beso]

How can it be an insult though if he does(which i doubt), if he didn't he would be more pissed off about being called a cocksucker.

[Mr XcX]

I AM GAY! And know that the way you are behaving is doing me or other gay people no favours. Stop treating us like toddlers

Absolutely Pathetic. I think you need an Infaction using the I am GAY card. I have said from DAY 1 you are a troll trying to get members banned

[Beso]

Epic and hilariously naive.

you think?

Oh sorry excuse me, I forgot you were out on every march in the eighties for equal rights, or you took severe beatings for dancing to culture club in a club, putting on a glittery top and mincing down leeds high street during gay pride does not make you an expert in gay rights or gay anything.

yak yak, dig dig, thats all you do chucky..you aint got much substance.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

you, with the gay scene, and gay bars etc..**** sake, imagine if we had the words straight bar and straight scene banded about like gay scene and gay bar..uproar, screeching uproar from the gayers.:blush:

Erm no there wouldnt be an uproar i allways call non gay bars straight bars lol stop being rediculous

Saying gay scene and straight scene is just a way to explain to different types of things.

Kinda like mcdonalds or kfc

[Mr XcX]

You think gay people are seen as 'equal', then you've fortunate, blind or stupid, not decided which one yet.

BBfan if they irritate you just ignore them cause one of you will end up with an Infaction.

[Beso]

Erm no there wouldnt be an uproar i allways call non gay bars straight bars lol stop being rediculous

Saying gay scene and straight scene is just a way to explain to different types of things.

Kinda like mcdonalds or kfc

fair enough. i admit i got a bit snotty on that.

and sorry chuckyegg, i'm talking crap, i tip my hat to you.

[BBfan46]

BBfan if they irritate you just ignore them cause one of you will end up with an Infaction.

Yeah, I think I'm gonna drop out of this for a while ;)

[Zippy]

Just some simple word equations for you;

Victor + Brian + x = Banter/Argument

x= insults

Cock sucker = insult
Gay men = Brian = Sucks cock = Homophobic insult.

Got that?

:conf:

what a load of confusing toss.

clearly youve not watched many TV shows or films where the term cock sucker has been thrown around willy nilly as an insult.

Oh well.

[Shasown]

Surely for it to be an insult, it has to be either intended to offend or be perceived by the recipient as an insult. It was apparent neither case could be applied in this instance.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Surely for it to be an insult, it has to be either intended to offend or be perceived by the recipient as an insult. It was apparent neither case could be applied in this instance.

If the person the insult was directed at doesnt get offended then there you go all is fine.

And Brian DID NOT GET OFFENDED coz he has a sense of humour

[Beso]

Surely for it to be an insult, it has to be either intended to offend or be perceived by the recipient as an insult. It was apparent neither case could be applied in this instance.

or in bb's reason for not showing it in the h/l show, it could offend the viewing public.

producer one..man that was funny, he called brian a cocksucker, we need to show this.

producer two.. we can't, the cocksuckers will be onto ofcom in a flash.

producer one.. oh.

[BBfan46]

:conf:

what a load of confusing toss.

clearly youve not watched many TV shows or films where the term cock sucker has been thrown around willy nilly as an insult.

Oh well.

Okay, I'll go spouting the N word just as a nilly willy insult.

[Shasown]

If the person the insult was directed at doesnt get offended then there you go all is fine.

And Brian DID NOT GET OFFENDED coz he has a sense of humour

Well thats isnt always true, sometimes the person throwing the banter intends it to hurt or offend the other person. Or the recipient may be secure enough not to be offended or insulted. That doesnt make an insult any less insulting or offensive.

However in this particular case Victor didnt say it to belittle, demean or offend Brian, it was just banter. Victor seems to be the sort of person who doesnt see a persons sexuality as an excuse to insult them, nor as a reason to give a person special priviledges.

[Beso]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cocksucker


the slang meanings are funny, if a little shocking!

[InOne]

This thread is ridiculously stupid and should be locked. You all should be honoured to have Victor on your screens. Have a word OP, you should be ashamed of yourself :bored:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Okay, I'll go spouting the N word just as a nilly willy insult.

How can you compare cocksucker to the N word?

lol

[Chilltown]

You need to watch live feed love, you would not look so daft

You're the only one looking like a moron here. Stop looking for reasons to get ticked off. That's like me calling someone a "mother ****er" and then being accused of "Hating Incest Victims".


Christ. Somebody close this ridiculous thread and lets move on?

[Shasown]

or in bb's reason for not showing it in the h/l show, it could offend the viewing public.

producer one..man that was funny, he called brian a cocksucker, we need to show this.

producer two.. we can't, the cocksuckers will be onto ofcom in a flash.

producer one.. oh.

It wouldnt have been on yesterdays highlights show as it was on lf earlier- about 1145pm, if it is going to be on a highlight show it will be the one this evening(Tuesday)

[Chilltown]

Okay, I'll go spouting the N word just as a nilly willy insult.


Yeah, try it and you'll find yourself in a boatload of trouble. :joker: You cocksucker.

[Zippy]

Okay, I'll go spouting the N word just as a nilly willy insult.

Go on then!

Laughable that youre fixated with the notion that n*gger and cocksucker are somehow equal. Its what makes your whole case so ridiculous!

But hey... :joker:

[cub]

Some things to consider ...

Would it be any more (or less) of an insult if he called Ulrika or Makosi a cock-sucker?

I don't have live feed so I haven't heard it (in context). If it was said in anger it was meant as an insult.

It would be like calling a fat person a 'pie-eater'.

How would it have been if Brian had called Victor a "black man" in anger?

Often intended racism or intended homophobia is fuelled by the anger in which it is said.

[Beso]

It wouldnt have been on yesterdays highlights show as it was on lf earlier- about 1145pm, if it is going to be on a highlight show it will be the one this evening(Tuesday)

yes i know, but it is safe to assume it won't be shown.

[Chilltown]

Some things to consider ...

Would it be any more (or less) of an insult if he called Ulrika or Makosi a cock-sucker?

I don't have live feed so I haven't heard it (in context). If it was said in anger it was meant as an insult.

It would be like calling a fat person a 'pie-eater'.

How would it have been if Brian had called Victor a "black man" in anger?

Often intended racism or intended homophobia is fuelled by the anger in which it is said.

Who calls someone a "Black man" in a fit of anger? :joker: So what, just because some people actually DO suck cock you can't call them a cocksucker? :conf: Insults get hurled. If he was called a "******" that would be one thing, but he didn't. Victor slammed an age old insult at Brian. It wasn't an attack on his sexuality.

At the end of the day, Who cares? Brian obviously wasn't too offended or he would have been saying he was in the DR. And for all we know it was just playful banter. It's a general insult. People get mad at each other and rather than handling it maturely, they resort to filthy words. That's life. Can't change it. I just hate that people are blowing things up into things that they aren't. :dance:

[Shasown]

yes i know, but it is safe to assume it won't be shown.

The program editors catch 22 aint it? Damned if they do, damned if they dont. if they dont, same people shouting about homophobic remarks will be claiming BB are fixing it for Victor to win.

Given the program is on a 15 minute delay, they had enough time to bleep it out before transmission tonight, if that segment of filming is relevant to any ongoing storylines I should imagine they would leave it in

[Beso]

The program editors catch 22 aint it? Damned if they do, damned if they dont. if they dont, same people shouting about homophobic remarks will be claiming BB are fixing it for Victor to win.

Given the program is on a 15 minute delay, they had enough time to bleep it out before transmission tonight, if that segment of filming is relevant to any ongoing storylines I should imagine they would leave it in

I still can't see it if i'm honest. It could cause offence to the viewing public.

[stonedape]

This thread is sexist.

[M X]

Everybody who knows me knows how much I despise homophobia, and any homophobic slurs. But I don't think calling someone a cock-sucker in a joking way is homophobic. If he had said that to one of the girls you wouldn't be calling it heterophobia. I suppose it depends on in which context it was used.

Edit;; on second thoughts, i suppose it is homophobic. in which case that's terrible.

:(

[M X]

Ive been on the gay scene since i was 15 i know what my people want and its not to be parented by organisatons and so called do gooders like yourself.

AND WE ARE ALREADY EQUAL!

We are NOT equal. No where near.

:( :( :(

[Beso]

We are NOT equal. No where near.

:( :( :(

you get a vote, can legally drink in pubs when you turn 18, get two for one at sainsbury's..!!

everyone can be hated you know.:sleep:

[M X]

you, with the gay scene, and gay bars etc..**** sake, imagine if we had the words straight bar and straight scene banded about like gay scene and gay bar..uproar, screeching uproar from the gayers.:blush:

That's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.

Ever wondered why there are gay bars!?.. because in a regular bar if a gay couple walked in holding hands and kissing that they would be frowned upon by alot of other customers and can face discrimination.

So before you sit there and say that gay people segregate themselves, think about why that is nessecary sometimes.

[M X]

you get a vote, can legally drink in pubs when you turn 18, get two for one at sainsbury's..!!

everyone can be hated you know.:sleep:

..but can't get married.

Civil partnerships do not unite two people as husband and husband or wife and wife, they unite them as partners.

[Beso]

That's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.

Ever wondered why there are gay bars!?.. because in a regular bar if a gay couple walked in holding hands and kissing that they would be frowned upon by alot of other customers and can face discrimination.

So before you sit there and say that gay people segregate themselves, think about why that is nessecary sometimes.

sorry but,

My local in my small town is called the cage, it's a working mans bar, hardly any women go in.

I met this gay bloke in another pub in town and thought it would be funny(as he did) to go to the cage and see how the apes would take it..you know what!, everyone loved him, he was the life and soul of the place that night. My brother in law walked home with him after shutting time and confessed he would try anything once..our gay friend has been back thrice in the past 6 months cause he loved the night out that much...my advice to you is..MOVE.

[Chilltown]

..but can't get married.

Civil partnerships do not unite two people as husband and husband or wife and wife, they unite them as partners.

But since you're an equal human being, you can also get a job, save your money, buy a plane ticket and travel somewhere that it is legal.

Unfair, I know, but it's not like there's no way around it. Regardless, Victor calling Brian a cock-sucker wasn't meant as a homophobic slur...why? Because it isn't one. Women suck cock, some men in prison are forced to suck cock....I mean the list goes on. :joker: Who cares?

[Beso]

..but can't get married.

Civil partnerships do not unite two people as husband and husband or wife and wife, they unite them as partners.

Civil partnerships is the way forward, this marraige thing is to full on for any two people..straight people should go through a year of civil partnership beforew they get married.


Anyway, complain to your local mp about it, it seems to me that god has been proven to be a load of shyte now by science, so therefore the church shouldn't really have a say in anything..so if you feal strongly about it, start a petition or something..make a stand..

[M X]

sorry but,

My local in my small town is called the cage, it's a working mans bar, hardly any women go in.

I met this gay bloke in another pub in town and thought it would be funny(as he did) to go to the cage and see how the apes would take it..you know what!, everyone loved him, he was the life and soul of the place that night. My brother in law walked home with him after shutting time and confessed he would try anything once..our gay friend has been back thrice in the past 6 months cause he loved the night out that much...my advice to you is..MOVE.

Wow, well I suppose if that happened in that one bar then that changes the whole world. And FYI, where I live there isn't alot of homophobia.. but it is a problem in alot of bars and the fact you deny that shows your naivety to the situation.

[M X]

But since you're an equal human being, you can also get a job, save your money, buy a plane ticket and travel somewhere that it is legal.

Unfair, I know, but it's not like there's no way around it. Regardless, Victor calling Brian a cock-sucker wasn't meant as a homophobic slur...why? Because it isn't one. Women suck cock, some men in prison are forced to suck cock....I mean the list goes on. :joker: Who cares?

But the fact that we have to travel to another country proves the point of being un-equal.

[M X]

Civil partnerships is the way forward, this marraige thing is to full on for any two people..straight people should go through a year of civil partnership beforew they get married.


Anyway, complain to your local mp about it, it seems to me that god has been proven to be a load of shyte now by science, so therefore the church shouldn't really have a say in anything..so if you feal strongly about it, start a petition or something..make a stand..

I don't know if you realise how many people are fighting to have gay marriage legalized. Besides, even if the church would marry a gay couple they can't!

[Beso]

Wow, well I suppose if that happened in that one pub then that changes the whole world. And FYI, where I live there isn't alot of homophobia.. but it is a problem in alot of bars and the fact you deny that shows your naivety to the situation.

it's the same if west ham fans walked in a pub in newcastle though..stop secluding yourselfs ffs.

[M X]

it's the same if west ham fans walked in a pub in newcastle though..stop secluding yourselfs ffs.

It's so ignorant to say stuff like that. If you research you'll see that lots of gay people have even been killed in bars just for being themselves. So instead of us 'secluding ourselves' how about it becomes exceptable to the wider public that a gay couple can be the same as a straight couple. Stop trying to turn this around and say it's the gay community's fault when it's not.

[M X]

anyway, nite.

[Beso]

It's so ignorant to say stuff like that. If you research you'll see that lots of gay people have even been killed in bars just for being themselves. So instead of us 'secluding ourselves' how about it becomes exceptable to the wider public that a gay couple can be the same as a straight couple. Stop trying to turn this around and say it's the gay community's fault when it's not.

i'm not.

But i can assure you that there is far far more straight people killed in bars just for being themselves than there is gay folks.

[Jamietwo]

i want to have gay intercourse with everyone on this thread

[Beso]

i want to have gay intercourse with everyone on this thread

giver or taker?

[Jamietwo]

either, and the girls can use their fingers

[luminoussun]

i want to have gay intercourse with everyone on this thread

how can you have gay sex with the women on the thread?

on second thoughts i don't want to know :P

[Astaril]

People like you are making it worse for gay people.

Your singling us out by constantly protecting us from what you think might be offensive WHich then makes other people tip toe around us and feel like they have to walk on eggshells which then drawers attention to our sexuality which we do not wanna be judged on

We are just like everyone else and can take a bit of banter.
You have a good attitude, its refreshing and much more positive than... "We are so hard done by, I am such a victim lala" I know that things are not perfect for Gay people but I do believe (just from my own experience and what I see around) there is much more tollerance particularly in those under 40 years of age. I think this is credit to the gay community for being positive, not taking themselves too seriously and winning people over with humour and understanding.

As for the cock sucker remark, even if it was said at Brian because he was gay (although I dont' think it was) Say if I said something stupid and someone said to me "Aww you are so blond" I would find this funny, an inoffensive insult, a little bit of banter, and would give something back. However If someone was to say to me in a semi serious way "You're just a dumb ass blond" I would find this insulting, especially if the taunt was repeated a few times.

I think how something is said and what context it is said in really does change its meaning. So calling someone a cock sucker in a bantering way is not really insulting and homophobic, unless you are super sensitive and take yourself too seriously which is kinda sad.

[Chilltown]

But the fact that we have to travel to another country proves the point of being un-equal.

No, it only proves that people running your country blow. You're only "un-equal" if you let yourself get bullied by those in the opposition. I'd say there's just as many of you, if not more, than there are Anti-Gay protesters. You can do whatever you like. It just takes work in certain fields until the government can evolve. It's not a true matter of inequality, it's a matter of progress.

[Keithhhhh]

People like you are making it worse for gay people.

Your singling us out by constantly protecting us from what you think might be offensive WHich then makes other people tip toe around us and feel like they have to walk on eggshells which then drawers attention to our sexuality which we do not wanna be judged on

We are just like everyone else and some of us can take a bit of banter and some can't.

I fixed up the bottom part for you :) haha

[Hero1]

my point is IF Brian was to mentions Vics colour this place and the Daily Star(:joker:) would be up in arms ,when Jade said POPPADOM even the PRIME FOOKING MINISTER made a speech about it in Westminster ,but this lowlife can say homophobic things and its ok ?NO ITS NOT

But he did though, Brian called Chantelle a skank because another black man has come into the house for her to jump on! Or was that general banter, or should Victor and Chantelle be offended at the same time?

[supergirthuk]

Speak English then

Oh you do banter too. Ever considered this offensive before you typed it, cook sukcer?

[chuff me dizzy]

But he did though, Brian called Chantelle a skank because another black man has come into the house for her to jump on! Or was that general banter, or should Victor and Chantelle be offended at the same time?

He never said BLACK man ,and if he did without you are watching it with your eyes closed ,Vic the PRic IS black

[Showstopper]

O for the love of God. He's not talking in a literal sense, its banter

Stop getting offended for the sake of it

[chuff me dizzy]

O for the love of God. He's not taling in a literal sense, its banter

Stop getting offended for the sake of it

To call a gay man a "cock sucker"is NOT banter

[Hero1]

He never said BLACK man ,and if he did without you are watching it with your eyes closed ,Vic the PRic IS black

He did, and they even edited it out in the morning show.

[Keithhhhh]

To call a gay man a "cock sucker"is NOT banter

but to call a straight man it is? so i can call a white man a n*gger, but not a black man?

[chuff me dizzy]

but to call a straight man it is? so i can call a white man a n*gger, but not a black man?

Dont be silly PLEASE

[chuff me dizzy]

He did, and they even edited it out in the morning show.

He called him a BROTHER ,please wiki the word and come back to say sorry i will be here

[Keithhhhh]

Dont be silly PLEASE

I'm trying to see your point of view, it sure either be acceptable to call everyone a cock sucker, or not, while 'bantering'.

[chuff me dizzy]

I'm trying to see your point of view, it sure either be acceptable to call everyone a cock sucker, or not, while 'bantering'.

No it is NOT acceptable ,no more so than brian calling him a N****r would be ,but as per usual with Vic the pric it was said behind his back ,and wont be shown in the hls ,but all Jade said was shown ? double standards

[Keithhhhh]

No it is NOT acceptable ,no more so than brian calling him a N****r would be ,but as per usual with Vic the pric it was said behind his back ,and wont be shown in the hls ,but all Jade said was shown ? double standards

The way you said:

To call a gay man a "cock sucker"is NOT banter
makes it sound as if you're saying it is banter to say it to a straight man though, that's why I'm confused, if you mean it's not acceptable either way, then I get it though.

[M X]

i'm not.

But i can assure you that there is far far more straight people killed in bars just for being themselves than there is gay folks.

And that makes it fine that gay people have been killed for being themselves? Your point is invalid.

[M X]

No, it only proves that people running your country blow. You're only "un-equal" if you let yourself get bullied by those in the opposition. I'd say there's just as many of you, if not more, than there are Anti-Gay protesters. You can do whatever you like. It just takes work in certain fields until the government can evolve. It's not a true matter of inequality, it's a matter of progress.Well I disagree.

[chuff me dizzy]

The way you said:


makes it sound as if you're saying it is banter to say it to a straight man though, that's why I'm confused, if you mean it's not acceptable either way, then I get it though.

Right ,lets go through this again ,I dont think it is right calling him a cock sucker AT ALL,but because brian IS gay it makes it worse ,Vic IS black but if Brian had called him the N word it would have been slated on here ,DOUBLE STANDARDS

[CaudleHalbard]

Cocksucker is generally a term of abuse - and not necessarily direct at gay men. Straight men call each other this.

I think Victor is still annoyed with Brian's description of him.

[chuff me dizzy]

Cocksucker is generally a term of abuse - and not necessarily direct at gay men. Straight men call each other this.

I think Victor is still annoyed with Brian's description of him.

I think its more hes $hit scared of the fact that Brian is sewn on cert to win this

[Melanie20]

You can call anyone a ******* sucker it doesn't just apply to gay man and therefore is so not homophobic :rolleyes:

[Chuckyegg]

I reckon a lot of people think there is a bunch of gay men hanging around somewhere, waiting to be offended by everything. Cock sucker is a general insult, like motherfckr. Victor is both of these.

This.

[Jack_]

Vic the PRic IS black

...and Brian is gay [i.e a cock sucker]...what's the problem?

[cub]

If it was said in anger it was meant as an insult. Therefore yes, it is homophobic.

[flamingGalah!]

Ive been on the gay scene since i was 15 i know what my people want and its not to be parented by organisatons and so called do gooders like yourself.

AND WE ARE ALREADY EQUAL!

Well that's nothing to be proud of... :nono:

And please, don't think your opinions represent all gay men...

[Chuckyegg]

Victor is so low he would get vertigo in a sewer.

[Showstopper]

Dont be silly PLEASE

Take your own advice please, you're talking rubbish

[Vicky.]

Did Brian take offence at being called a cocksucker? If not then why did you?

Cocksucker is just a regular insult as far as I'm aware...no different to calling someone, for instance, a dickhead :S

IF Brian had been upset about it, which I doubt...then there might be a problem. But it appears as if people are looking for homophobia where it isn't.

[Crimson Dynamo]

OP

do you now get it

or do you need ANOTHER page?

[Omen]

Did Brian take offence at being called a cocksucker? If not then why did you?

Cocksucker is just a regular insult as far as I'm aware...no different to calling someone, for instance, a dickhead :S

IF Brian had been upset about it, which I doubt...then there might be a problem. But it appears as if people are looking for homophobia where it isn't.

what about shirtlifter?

[Vicky.]

what about shirtlifter?

I would consider shirtlifter to be a homophobic insult yes.

But its still more about context. If Brian himself wasn't offended by it, then there is no reason for others to feign mock outrage.

[Omen]

So the insult has to be target-group-specific, and not one for general use.

[Vicky.]

So the insult has to be target-group-specific, and not one for general use.

Umm not really. It depends on the context and how the person on the receiving end takes it. I would say anyway, others think differently.

[Showstopper]

But its still more about context. If Brian himself wasn't offended by it, then there is no reason for others to feign mock outrage.

Case in point Brian was offended when Jim Davidson called him a shirtlifter on Hells Kitchen.

I would see "Cocksucker" as a generic insult that is not meant literally