Ok enough with all this racism, homophobia sh!t

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Its getting rediculous.

People cant even banter anymore without someone barging in and claiming they are highly offended.

Have you noticed all the people claiming racism are not actually black

AND

the people cOMPLAINING about homophobic remarks are not actually gay?

What does that say?

Its all you people standing up for what you think is right but infact your making black people and gay people look like we are these poor victims who cant take anything in good humour and need to be stood up for.

Stop wrapping everyone up in cotton wool and just chill out.

[Legend killer]

Well played quality thread

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

you're too cute to be gay. Let me direct you to some peach :D

[Jack_]

I agree. It's idiots like that that have ensured Big Brother has become really politically correct over the years. They've killed the show.

[Patrick]

I agree. It's idiots like that that have ensured Big Brother has become really politically correct over the years. They've killed the show.

Exactly.


I mean 'Such and Such will leave BB11 because they are black and the UK is racist'

Do me a favour :rolleyes:

Brian Belo won BB8 may I remind you all.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Youde think the fact that weve had

A gay winner
A transgender winner
A devout christian winner
A man with tourettes winner
A black male winner

Would speak volumes that this country does not give a **** about sexuality or race or even religion when it comes to a reality tv show lol.

[chuff me dizzy]

You od not have to be gay to be offended by homophobic remarks/insults ,Tony Blair is as white as white could be ,but he stood up in Westminster when God alone knows what else was happening in UK and licked ass and made a speech apologising for Jade Goody saying the word POPPADOM

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Exactly.


I mean 'Such and Such will leave BB11 because they are black and the UK is racist'

Do me a favour :rolleyes:

Brian Belo won BB8 may I remind you all.

Brian Belo is black??????????? :eek:

[LBB11]

Its a totally joke the cards are geting pull out left right and centre, just goes to show some people are just so protective over there fav HM or some people are just sad and like to argue simple.

[30stone]

Didnt you complain about people calling Josie fat?
Your not fat lol.

[LexDex]

enough with the Nadia witch-hunt, it's like school-playground, don't call her HE! it's really immature and pathetic!

[Chuckyegg]

I'm starting to find you incredibly attractive Daniel.

[BBfan46]

Its getting rediculous.

People cant even banter anymore without someone barging in and claiming they are highly offended.

Have you noticed all the people claiming racism are not actually black

AND

the people cOMPLAINING about homophobic remarks are not actually gay?

What does that say?

Its all you people standing up for what you think is right but infact your making black people and gay people look like we are these poor victims who cant take anything in good humour and need to be stood up for.

Stop wrapping everyone up in cotton wool and just chill out.

You don't have to be black to experience racism, you can take that and ponder on that for a second. Maybe it would be nice to live in a World, where people aren't discriminated based on the way they're born. Banter is 'fine' but it usually comes from prejudice seeded in your mind and can easily escalate in to a volatile situation.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Didnt you complain about people calling Josie fat?
Your not fat lol.

That was blatant name calling though lets be honest lol.

Im just hating people accusing others of being prejadised when they really arnt

Its annoying

[Chuckyegg]

enough with the Nadia witch-hunt, it's like school-playground, don't call her HE! it's really immature and pathetic!

You will be lucky to avoid pathetic immature prejudiced bigots on this forum. I have 78 people on ignore.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

You don't have to be black to experience racism, you can take that and ponder on that for a second. Maybe it would be nice to live in a World, where people aren't discriminated based on the way they're born. Banter is 'fine' but it usually comes from prejudice seeded in your mind and can easily escalate in to a volatile situation.

Your the kinda people im talking about.

I really really wish you could just go have a pint and a fag (oops is that a homophobic word?) and chill out

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I'm starting to find you incredibly attractive Daniel.

Thank's i just got slightly hard from that

and "ithinkiloveyouto" Ive tasted the peach lol

[LexDex]

is that true Chuckyegg?? I still have to find the IGNORE thing!

[Chuckyegg]

Your the kinda people im talking about.

I really really wish you could just go have a pint and a fag (oops is that a homophobic word?) and chill out

Theres no similarity between gay activists of the 70's and 80's - and young gay men now. Now they live thier self obsessed lives in a utopia where thier parents are saying "hey its cool that you're gay, would you like us to help guide your boyfriends willy up your bum?"

oblivious and disrespectful to the fact that the generation IMMEDIATELY before them suffered greatly....and had to fight in order to allow these daft young tw@ts to be as complecent as they are.

[BBfan46]

Your the kinda people im talking about.

I really really wish you could just go have a pint and a fag (oops is that a homophobic word?) and chill out

You're a delusional moron, Grow up.

[Mr XcX]

OMG another sanctimonious thread by Daniel - something.

I am 100% no one I think of as a friend on this site are Homophobic and racist.

[Legend killer]

This thread is a barrel of laughs ain't it

[Mr XcX]

You're a delusional moron, Grow up.

Funny how he was going on about people having a go about Josie's looks yet did not bat an eye lid whenever other FM slagged other HM8's looks off. Double standards.

[Chuckyegg]

Thank's i just got slightly hard from that



You want my phone number? i can be in Hammersmith in 40 minutes.

[Mr XcX]

TBH. This thread is just screaming to the TROLLS come an GET ME.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Theres no similarity between gay activists of the 70's and 80's - and young gay men now. Now they live thier self obsessed lives in a utopia where thier parents are saying "hey its cool that you're gay, would you like us to help guide your boyfriends willy up your bum?"

oblivious and disrespectful to the fact that the generation IMMEDIATELY before them suffered greatly....and had to fight in order to allow these daft young tw@ts to be as complecent as they are.

Your not even gay though lol your just judging from the outside.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Ofcourse we are gratefull for the good people have done for us just like we all are for our grandparents who fought in the war. But that doesnt mean we cant get on with our lives now lol

[Legend killer]

I have to admit guys I love this OP

[buckfast67uk]

Dislike Nadia - you are clearly a transgenderphobic
Dislike Nikki - you are clearly a (cant think of word to describe mentally unstable)phobic or anorexiphobic
Dislike Brian - homophobic

Now.....these people who have these views, by their judgements surely they must be the following:
They tend to :
Dislike Ulrika - therefore are racist
Dislike Makosi - therefore are racist
Dislike Victor - therefor are racist
Dislike Michelle - therefore are JEALOUS!

[Mr XcX]

Everyone seems to think the OP is so FIT LIKE!! lol

[Vicky.]

How I see it, is if the person who the comment was said to doesn't get offended, then why should anyone else. If we are talking about comments on BB here :p

Also, the ***** only left because he was black/gay/posh/purple threads annoy me.

[Jase.]

Huh? What happened?

[Mr XcX]

How I see it, is if the person who the comment was said to doesn't get offended, then why should anyone else. If we are talking about comments on BB here :p

Also, the ***** only left because he was black/gay/posh/purple thread annoy me.

Agree with you Vicky. I have spent too long on this forum. I am so fantastic I don;t need to be dealing with the PUBLIC's RACIST threads.

[luminoussun]

I agree with the op 2 times in one day...must be a full moon

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Agree with you Vicky. I have spent too long on this forum. I am so fantastic I don;t need to be dealing with the PUBLIC's RACIST threads.

This is a thread against the people who start racist threads please read carefully.

And your sayig you agree with vicky when she says that "its only offensive if the person its said to finds it offensive" Well when i started the thread against everyone having digs at josies weight you where in there calling her a fatty lol

I agree with Vicky if the person its said to isnt offended then its noone elses business to accuse otherwise

[brian3]

the people cOMPLAINING about homophobic remarks are not actually gay?





2 words peter tatchell

[Chuckyegg]

Your not even gay though

That's news to me.

I was born 7 days after homosexuality was decriminalised in the UK. But what do I know eh?

You appear to be the one who invented it.

[Chuckyegg]

2 words peter tatchell

He won't know who peter tatchell is.

Maybe he will google him before he replies....but that's ok....at least he's learning.

[BBfan46]

That's news to me.

I was born 7 days after homosexuality was decriminalised in the UK. But what do I know eh?

You appear to be the one who invented it.

:joker:

[Mr XcX]

This is a thread against the people who start racist threads please read carefully.

And your sayig you agree with vicky when she says that "its only offensive if the person its said to finds it offensive" Well when i started the thread against everyone having digs at josies weight you where in there calling her a fatty lol

I agree with Vicky if the person its said to isnt offended then its noone elses business to accuse otherwise

WELL THEN PLEASE READ THIS.

I was agreeing cause I should not be wasting my time with trashy threads. So I just will stay clear. BYE!!

[daniel-lewis-1985]

He won't know who peter tatchell is.

Maybe he will google him before he replies....but that's ok....at least he's learning.

I do actually know who he is and aslso know that he protests for in his words "queer freedom".

Ooh wait sorry he said queer is that homophobic? :rolleyes:

[luminoussun]

peter tatchell done a good job back in the day...but it's time he retired off to rio with his pink poodle to spend the rest of his life admiring the locals

[daniel-lewis-1985]

peter tatchell done a good job back in the day...but it's time he retired off to rio with his pink poodle to spend the rest of his life admiring the locals

LOL


Has anyone on this thread seen the film "In Bruges" with colin farrell :p

Its gotta be the moist politacally incorrect film ever you pc crew would have a field day.

Great film though

[Chilltown]

Hows about allowing people to speak their mind regardless and not pulling out the "racist/homophobic/transophobic" card in every topic?


I hate Nadia but it's not because she's a ******, it's because she's ****ing obnoxious.

Yes, you CAN hate a variety of people without it rooting in their obvious differences from the majority of society.

[Vicky.]

Hows about allowing people to speak their mind regardless and not pulling out the "racist/homophobic/transophobic" card in every topic?


I hate Nadia but it's not because she's a ******, it's because she's ****ing obnoxious.


About this.

If you hate her, say WHY you hate her rather than resorting to calling her a ******. Otherwise it looks like you only hate her because of her surgery, if this is NOT the case then it shouldnt be too difficult to express your opinion without saying things about her trans-gender.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Hows about allowing people to speak their mind regardless and not pulling out the "racist/homophobic/transophobic" card in every topic?


I hate Nadia but it's not because she's a ******, it's because she's ****ing obnoxious.

Yes, you CAN hate a variety of people without it rooting in their obvious differences from the majority of society.

I 100% agree with this.

Anyway im off to watch "Being Erica"

[Beso]

About this.

If you hate her, say WHY you hate her rather than resorting to calling her a ******. Otherwise it looks like you only hate her because of her surgery, if this is NOT the case then it shouldnt be too difficult to express your opinion without saying things about her trans-gender.

if you hate someone for being a ****** do you get banned/

cause it's not really any different to hating someone cause they chew food noisily.

[Vicky.]

if you hate someone for being a ****** do you get banned/

cause it's not really any different to hating someone cause they chew food noisily.

How is that? What a ridiculous comparison.

And if you constantly make transphobic comments, then yes, you will be banned.

[Beso]

How is that? What a ridiculous comparison.

And if you constantly make transphobic comments, then yes, you will be banned.

it's not really that ridiculous.

hate is hate, no matter what you hate the person for, unless it's something they have done to you then they shouldn't really be hated by you unless of course it's something really terrible like the stuff we unfortunatly read about every day in the national papers.

so hating nadia for being obnoxious and really rather nasty to be honest is ok in your eyes?

yet because you hate her that much for being such a twat, you are not allowed to mock her for being knocked out, hoisted onto a slab and cut to pieces..


hate is hate, it's either all the way or no way..you're the mod, you gotta allow people to vent.

[_Seth]

I'm starting to find you incredibly attractive Daniel.

This. :love:

[Vicky.]

it's not really that ridiculous.

hate is hate, no matter what you hate the person for, unless it's something they have done to you then they shouldn't really be hated by you unless of course it's something really terrible like the stuff we unfortunatly read about every day in the national papers.

so hating nadia for being obnoxious and really rather nasty to be honest is ok in your eyes?

yet because you hate her that much for being such a twat, you are not allowed to mock her for being knocked out, hoisted onto a slab and cut to pieces..


hate is hate, it's either all the way or no way..you're the mod, you gotta allow people to vent.

Thats like saying you should be allowed to say you hate someone for being gay/ethnic though.

It is something they CANT help.

I can't help your prejudices, I can't stop you hating on someone for whatever reason, but I can stop you from openly talking about it and risking upsetting other people by your bigoted views.

[BBfan46]

Thats like saying you should be allowed to say you hate someone for being gay/ethnic though.

It is something they CANT help.

I can't help your prejudices, I can't stop you hating on someone for whatever reason, but I can stop you from openly talking about it and risking upsetting other people by your bigoted views.

I think you're in line for a talk show Vicky ;)

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Erm have i become attractive overnight or is everyone taking the piss lol

[Beso]

Thats like saying you should be allowed to say you hate someone for being gay/ethnic though.

It is something they CANT help.

I can't help your prejudices, I can't stop you hating on someone for whatever reason, but I can stop you from openly talking about it and risking upsetting other people by your bigoted views.

yeah, thats my whole point, if i can hate tommy because he supports man utd, why can't i hate him for being gay/

when you consider how light hearted football rivalry is taken by the media tv etc, some people can't help who they support because it's forced on them...



I'm taking shyte again. sorry..i'm not prejudiced anyway, i would if the opportunity arose give brians penis a little shake for him.

[Niall]

Yeah I have to agree. Political correctness has gone WAY to far in this country nowadays. And I do think certain people on here are too snobby to know what banter is.

The way I see it is: you only live once so why be all serious about it? :)

[Chilltown]

About this.

If you hate her, say WHY you hate her rather than resorting to calling her a ******. Otherwise it looks like you only hate her because of her surgery, if this is NOT the case then it shouldnt be too difficult to express your opinion without saying things about her trans-gender.


Hold on, you're twisting my words now. I shouldn't have to explain anything further JUST BECAUSE somebody is different. If someone hates Ulrika, they aren't asked to explain why in every single post. I can hate things just because I do. And I hate her because I find her obnoxious, childish and she got my initial favorite Coolio out due to her whiny tantrums.

And just because I said I hated Nadia and used the word '******' in the same sentence doesn't mean I hate her for being a ******. I was saying that exact point.

[AfroMullet]

Brian Belo is black??????????? :eek:

No, thats a common misconception, he's a talking coconut.

[Vicky.]

yeah, thats my whole point, if i can hate tommy because he supports man utd, why can't i hate him for being gay/


hating someone because of a football team they support, and hating someone for the way they were born is totally different though :S

[Vicky.]

Hold on, you're twisting my words now. I shouldn't have to explain anything further JUST BECAUSE somebody is different. If someone hates Ulrika, they aren't asked to explain why in every single post. I can hate things just because I do. And I hate her because I find her obnoxious, childish and she got my initial favorite Coolio out due to her whiny tantrums.

And just because I said I hated Nadia and used the word '******' in the same sentence doesn't mean I hate her for being a ******. I was saying that exact point.

Oh no no I didnt mean that AT ALL.

You dont need to explain in every post why you hate her, I never said that.

But if someone posts things like 'get the ****** out' for example...then people will view it as transphobia...same as if you refer to her penis, it would LOOK like you hate her for being 'different;

Whereas if you type 'Get nadia out', or 'I ****** hate that bitchy **** nadia' (for example) they wont

[Chilltown]

Oh no no I didnt mean that AT ALL.

You dont need to explain in every post why you hate her, I never said that.

But if you post things like 'get the ****** out' for example...then people will view it as transphobia...same as if you refer to her penis, it would LOOK like you hate her for being 'different;

Whereas if you type 'Get nadia out', or 'I ****** hate that fat **** nadia' (for example) they wont

Well then in that case I agree. If someone were to post "Get the ****** Out" that's no different than saying "Get the Black Out" or "Get the Gay Out" or something along those lines. That shouldn't be tolerated.

[Niall]

hating someone because of a football team they support, and hating someone for the way they were born is totally different though :S

Totally agree.


And Vicky, your avatar is just pure awesome! :thumbs:

[Vicky.]

Well then in that case I agree. If someone were to post "Get the ****** Out" that's no different than saying "Get the Black Out" or "Get the Gay Out" or something along those lines. That shouldn't be tolerated.

Thanks. Thats all we are trying to get across here...and many seem to be having trouble grasping the concept of it :)

[Vicky.]

Totally agree.


And Vicky, your avatar is just pure awesome! :thumbs:

haha thanks, I love it so much :D

[Beso]

hating someone because of a football team they support, and hating someone for the way they were born is totally different though :S

ok, i worded that all wrong.

what i was trying to say was that if i hate tommy for twisting my nipples at school, i would call tommy names, and a man utd **** would be one of them..so if i hate nadia for being a complete twat(no pun intended) i might call her a cut off cock ****..or something as childish..

it's the hate that has to be addressed, not why your're hating someone..because i believe that there is absolutly zero people on this forum that hate nadia becuase she used to be a man..

[BBfan46]

Banter's fine.
But whoever said don't get serious because you only live once, but you have to be selective, because an excessive use of banter can really offend and we should just focus on hating people because their wankers not because they're black, white, gay, straight, fat or thin :D

[Shasown]

About this.

If you hate her, say WHY you hate her rather than resorting to calling her a ******. Otherwise it looks like you only hate her because of her surgery, if this is NOT the case then it shouldnt be too difficult to express your opinion without saying things about her trans-gender.

Thats actually positive discrimination in favour of transgender people, surely if anyone was to say they hate any housemate, they would under that sort of logic have to then identify their own sexuality and a case for the statement they made about the housemate.

Who is to say any gay/lesbian or transgender forum members couldnt simply be making heterophobic comments about housemates because of their own prejudices?

Will you apply the same rulings to all comments of hatred about any housemate?

[Vicky.]

ok, i worded that all wrong.

what i was trying to say was that if i hate tommy for twisting my nipples at school, i would call tommy names, and a man utd **** would be one of them..so if i hate nadia for being a complete twat(no pun intended) i might call her a cut off cock ****..or something as childish..

it's the hate that has to be addressed, not why your're hating someone..because i believe that there is absolutly zero people on this forum that hate nadia becuase she used to be a man..

Well you would be very wrong in that assumption. Many people would hate someone just for being a transsexual. Much as many people hate people just for being gay. It happens. Although most people try to hide it.

If you truly had no problem with her being a transsexual, you wouldn't feel the need to resort to childish jibes about her penis. You would find some aspect of her personality to pick on instead.

The hate does not have to be addressed. People should feel free to hate/love housemates, as thats the whole point of the program.

But when it comes to prejudiced comments, whether or not you actually hate the person because of that prejudice, there is a problem.

For example. You hate Paul...because he's been bitching about you behind your back. Paul is gay. Would you call him a bitching *********? No of course not. Or I would at least hope you wouldn't :S

This is no different. Any kind of prejudice shouldn't be tolerated. Again, people can't help how they are born.

[Beso]

Banter's fine.
But whoever said don't get serious because you only live once, but you have to be selective, because an excessive use of banter can really offend and we should just focus on hating people because their wankers not because they're black, white, gay, straight, fat or thin :D

but if you hate someone you will pick at everything about them which includes colour, sexuality or whatever, just pure and simply because you hate them.

So in my eyes, all hate threads should be banned.

[Vicky.]

Thats actually positive discrimination in favour of transgender people, surely if anyone was to say they hate any housemate, they would under that sort of logic have to then identify their own sexuality and a case for the statement they made about the housemate.

Who is to say any gay/lesbian or transgender forum members couldnt simply be making heterophobic comments about housemates because of their own prejudices?

Will you apply the same rulings to all comments of hatred about any housemate?

I'm not quite getting what you are meaning here...

What heterophobic comments do you mean?

I didnt mean anyone HAD to give a reason for hating housemates. But using 'because she has a cock' as a reason for hating her, is unacceptable :S

[BBfan46]

but if you hate someone you will pick at everything about them which includes colour, sexuality or whatever, just pure and simply because you hate them.

So in my eyes, all hate threads should be banned.

I hate Nadia because she's an over-reacting drama queen and I'll call her out on that because that's something she can address and attempt to resolve, but I wouldn't insult her because she was a woman trapped in a man's body, she can't help that and it's no fault of her own. :)

[luminoussun]

Hey everyone it does'nt matter whats on the outside...it's what it is on the inside that counts...and nadia is a gobby snobby jumped up drama queen who thinks this whole show has been made to put the crown on her head.

[Beso]

Well you would be very wrong in that assumption. Many people would hate someone just for being a transsexual. Much as many people hate people just for being gay. It happens. Although most people try to hide it.

If you truly had no problem with her being a transsexual, you wouldn't feel the need to resort to childish jibes about her penis. You would find some aspect of her personality to pick on instead.

The hate does not have to be addressed. People should feel free to hate/love housemates, as thats the whole point of the program.

But when it comes to prejudiced comments, whether or not you actually hate the person because of that prejudice, there is a problem.

For example. You hate Paul...because he's been bitching about you behind your back. Paul is gay. Would you call him a bitching *********? No of course not. Or I would at least hope you wouldn't :S

This is no different. Any kind of prejudice shouldn't be tolerated. Again, people can't help how they are born.

I get you, but i don't agree with you..i do know though if pauls was slagging me off behind my back i'd punch his ****ing ******ty head in...lol, joke..


seriously though, shawsons came up with a good point and is probably better equipped to discuss/argue the point further than i am..

[Beso]

Hey everyone it does'nt matter whats on the outside...it's what it is on the inside that counts...and nadia is a gobby snobby jumped up drama queen who thinks this whole show has been made to put the crown on her head.

you see, i would find it funny to say that the only thing inside nadia is her own cock..it's not supposed to come across as prejudiced, it's not pure hatred, it's a joke, probaly because deep down i do actually like her and admire her guts.

[Shasown]

I'm not quite getting what you are meaning here...

What heterophobic comments do you mean?

I am not saying heterophobic comments are being made. Just like transphobic hatred cant be ruled out, but if staff decide to punish forum members for simply putting up that they hate Nadia for example without some form of qualifier for that dislike, then surely the same rule should be applied right across the forum over comments about any housemates both present and past.

Otherwise you are making her into a special case which is positive discrimination.

Incidentally during the male to female gender reassignment surgery the penis is opened lengthwise an insertion is made into the abdominal cavity and the penile tissue is inserted in the body to form the vaginal cavity.

Some of the head of the penis is used to form a clitoral substitute, depending upon the skill of the surgeon. So to all intents and purposes she still has a penis. Its just been reformed into female sex organs. there are a few fascinating and quite gory videos on gender reassignment surgery on the net.

[BBfan46]

you see, i would find it funny to say that the only thing inside nadia is her own cock..it's not supposed to come across as prejudiced, it's not pure hatred, it's a joke, probaly because deep down i do actually like her and admire her guts.

That's not so much prejudice, more controversial humour.

[Beso]

how do they make the pee hole shawson? and can nadia only take a cock the same size as hers was?

[Beso]

That's not so much prejudice, more controversial humour.

thanks.:dance:

I'M CONTROVERSIAL.:joker:

[Vicky.]

I am not saying heterophobic comments are being made. Just like transphobic hatred cant be ruled out, but if staff decide to punish forum members for simply putting up that they hate Nadia for example without some form of qualifier for that dislike, then surely the same rule should be applied right across the forum over comments about any housemates both present and past.

Otherwise you are making her into a special case which is positive discrimination.

Incidentally during the male to female gender reassignment surgery the penis is opened lengthwise an insertion is made into the abdominal cavity and the penile tissue is inserted in the body to form the vaginal cavity.

Some of the head of the penis is used to form a clitoral substitute, depending upon the skill of the surgeon. So to all intents and purposes she still has a penis. Its just been reformed into female sex organs. there are a few fascinating and quite gory videos on gender reassignment surgery on the net.

Oh I didn't mean that at all. Of course people dont have to justify WHY they hate her...I actually edited my post a few minutes after I posted it to include that. If they just say they hate her, it wont be challenged, thats just plain ridiculous.

What I meant was if people say ' I hate nadia,stupid man with its penis cut off' or words to that effect, then it is prejudice, and it shows. And will be punished.

If they just put 'I hate nadia so ******* much' or 'Nadia is so stupid' for example then there isnt a problem at all.

[Beso]

what about making jokes about it but stating we love nadia?

[BBfan46]

Oh I didn't mean that at all. Of course people dont have to justify WHY they hate her...I actually edited my post a few minutes after I posted it to include that. If they just say they hate her, it wont be challenged, thats just plain ridiculous.

What I meant was if people say ' I hate nadia,stupid man with its penis cut off' or words to that effect, then it is prejudice, and it shows. And will be punished.

If they just put 'I hate nadia so ******* much' or 'Nadia is so stupid' for example then there isnt a problem at all.

I made a thread saying I hated Nadia and you closed it, other than that I'm completely on your wave length. :wavey:

[Vicky.]

what about making jokes about it but stating we love nadia?

You wouldnt need to state that you love nadia :S

I don't actually know about jokes, as we dont allow racist jokes...or anything like that as far as I am aware. I will get back to you on that, as I'm not the be all and end all of every rule :S

[Vicky.]

I made a thread saying I hated Nadia and you closed it, other than that I'm completely on your wave length. :wavey:

Erm, where was that?!

[Beso]

You wouldnt need to state that you love nadia :S

I don't actually know about jokes, as we dont allow racist jokes...or anything like that as far as I am aware. I will get back to you on that, as I'm not the be all and end all of every rule :S

cheers.


I know it's a difficult situation, but it is the same for us posters as well.:joker:

[Astaril]

but if you hate someone you will pick at everything about them which includes colour, sexuality or whatever, just pure and simply because you hate them.

So in my eyes, all hate threads should be banned.

Parmnion, I am confused by what your point is?... but if I am reading it right I strongly disagree. There is a difference between hating someone because they act like an idiot and hating someone for a reason that they can't change or do anything about.

I agree with the OP 100% about the stupid "Soandso was evicted because he is black/gay etc.." but I don't think a lot of the people in this thread really get the point he was trying to make, and likely haven't read it properly.

LOL@ Mr XcX Major Fail :pat:

[Beso]

Parmnion, I am confused by what your point is?... but if I am reading it right I strongly disagree. There is a difference between hating someone because they act like an idiot and hating someone for a reason that they can't change or do anything about.

I agree with the OP 100% about the stupid "Soandso was evicted because he is black/gay etc.." but I don't think a lot of the people in this thread really get the point he was trying to make, and likely haven't read it properly.

LOL@ Mr XcX Major Fail :pat:

my point was that if you HATE someone you will pull no punches when slagging them off.So all hate threads should be banned.

never going to happen though and i'll probably change my mind tomorrow.

[luminoussun]

Can i say "i hate preston because he is'nt a ******" ??

[BBfan46]

Erm, where was that?!

Ah, don't worry, she's got plenty of hate on here at the minute, I'm sure we can spread her one thread :)

[Vicky.]

Can i say "i hate preston because he is'nt a ******" ??

What a strange thing to ask. :/

I really do not see any reason why you would want to say that

[luminoussun]

What a strange thing to ask. :/

I really do not see any reason why you would want to say that

just to confuse you a bit and it worked haha :joker:

[Vicky.]

Ah, don't worry, she's got plenty of hate on here at the minute, I'm sure we can spread her one thread :)

I did a search on your name, and found out the thread you meant.

That was closed, because there was no point whatsoever to it. Nothing to discuss, no question or ANYTHING. The only thing you put was 'its all in the title' or something. The title being '**** you nadia*

If you had put something actually inside the thread...then it would have been fine :S

[Vicky.]

just to confuse you a bit and it worked haha :joker:

:laugh:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

OMG ive created a monster lol!

Wouldnt suprise if this thread was still going next year

[Beso]

OMG ive created a monster lol!


is that what nadias surgeon said?


soz, just another sick joke.

[luminoussun]

I think the only fair solution is to ban any threads that have brian or nadia in the title...and promote more victor threads intead :) that being a totally unbias opinion of course

[Vicky.]

I think the only fair solution is to ban any threads that have brian or nadia in the title...and promote more victor threads intead :) that being a totally unbias opinion of course

Haha

Thats....a plan :laugh2:

Lets just change this and make it a victor worshipping forum. :D

[boomoo]

I am not saying heterophobic comments are being made. Just like transphobic hatred cant be ruled out, but if staff decide to punish forum members for simply putting up that they hate Nadia for example without some form of qualifier for that dislike, then surely the same rule should be applied right across the forum over comments about any housemates both present and past.

Otherwise you are making her into a special case which is positive discrimination.

Incidentally during the male to female gender reassignment surgery the penis is opened lengthwise an insertion is made into the abdominal cavity and the penile tissue is inserted in the body to form the vaginal cavity.

Some of the head of the penis is used to form a clitoral substitute, depending upon the skill of the surgeon. So to all intents and purposes she still has a penis. Its just been reformed into female sex organs. there are a few fascinating and quite gory videos on gender reassignment surgery on the net.



And this is because the unborn child does not have a specific gender until the testes descend at a certain stage. IN the female organs stay inside as the ovaries. The same applies to the other parts of the sex organs

[Shasown]

And this is because the unborn child does not have a specific gender until the testes descend at a certain stage. IN the female organs stay inside as the ovaries. The same applies to the other parts of the sex organs

Thats not strictly true, in a normal pregnancy the sex of the child(foetus) is decided at the moment the sperm fertilises the egg(conception). Its the makeup of the sperm decides the sex of the baby. The Ova(ovum) is always X the sperm can be X, Y or absent -O. Occassionally other abnormalities can occur with the gametes eg double chromosome in a single gamete.

As mammals, sex determination is genotypic. In humans, there are 22 pairs of autosomes and one pair of sex chromosomes. Sex chromosomes can be either X or Y. If you are XX you are female and if you are XY you are male.

In humans, sex is determined by the presence or absence of the Y chromosome. So if the Y chromosome is absent for e.g. XO (known as Turner Syndrome) the zygote will default to female, though the female will be sterile.

Specifically, the genes on the Y chromosome that are crucial for the development of a male is the testis-determining factor. This factor causes the gonads to develop into testes as opposed to ovaries.

source yahoo answers originally Igenetics Peter J Russel


Abnormalities of gender development within the foetus can also occur due to hormonal problems while in the womb. An hormonal imbalance during the pregnancy could cause the external genitalia to develop as apparently female or male while the true sex of the foetus is actually the opposite. so that as an example in later life it is found the undeveloped undescended testes are actually ovaries or vice versa.

[scootergirl]

Thats not strictly true, in a normal pregnancy the sex of the child(foetus) is decided at the moment the sperm fertilises the egg(conception). Its the makeup of the sperm decides the sex of the baby. The Ova(ovum) is always X the sperm can be X, Y or absent -O. Occassionally other abnormalities can occur with the gametes eg double chromosome in a single gamete.

As mammals, sex determination is genotypic. In humans, there are 22 pairs of autosomes and one pair of sex chromosomes. Sex chromosomes can be either X or Y. If you are XX you are female and if you are XY you are male.

In humans, sex is determined by the presence or absence of the Y chromosome. So if the Y chromosome is absent for e.g. XO (known as Turner Syndrome) the zygote will default to female.

Specifically, the gene on the Y chromosome that is crucial for the development of a male is the testis-determining factor. This factor causes the gonads to develop into testes as opposed to ovaries.

Abnormalities of gender development within the foetus can also occur due to hormonal problems while in the womb. A hormonal imbalance during the pregnancy could cause the external genitalia to develop as apparently female or male while the true sex of the foetus is actually the opposite. so that as an example in later life it is found the undeveloped undescended testes are actually ovaries or vice versa.

You are sunbect to copyright laws and as such need to cite other peoples work - fro example the above stuff came from http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070707020013AApuyQW

which in turn came from iGenetics - Peter J Russel

[Chuckyegg]

Of course it's fine to say that you don't like Nadia but to emphasise your point by calling her a "he" and making remarks about genitals is very cheap, cruel, cowardly and completely unacceptable in my opinion. However, in my opinion it is impossible to literally, technically change into a woman but there's no need to take the mickey (when you're supposed to be an adult).