Can Someone Please Tell Me Why Cardiff Play In The English League?

[DDRickyDD]

Last time I checked Cardiff was in Wales. So why on earth do they play in the English League? :conf:

[Jayson]

Because the Football League is England and Wales, dipshit.

[Shasown]

Its not only Cardiff there are other Welsh teams play or have played in the English Leagues. Swansea, Newport and Hereford to name a few.

When they originally formed as professional football clubs there wasnt a Welsh football league so they obtained dispensations to join the English FA.

[DDRickyDD]

Because the Football League is England and Wales, dipshit.

No it isn't. It's only England. Wales has a differant league.

Its not only Cardiff there are other Welsh teams play or have played in the English Leagues. Swansea, Newport and Hereford to name a few.

When they originally formed as professional football clubs there wasnt a Welsh football league so they obtained dispensations to join the English FA.

Now there is a Welsh League so I think they should be thrown out of the English League and put into the Welsh League. This would improve the quality in the Welsh League and the winners of the Welsh League (Probably Cardiff) would have a chane at qualifiying for the Champions League.

[Shasown]

No it isn't. It's only England. Wales has a differant league.



Now there is a Welsh League so I think they should be thrown out of the English League and put into the Welsh League. This would improve the quality in the Welsh League and the winners of the Welsh League (Probably Cardiff) would have a chane at qualifiying for the Champions League.

There are Welsh competitions that already allow for qualification in Europe. To throw them out of the English leagues could also mean they wouldnt be able to survive financially within the constraints of Welsh football.

Why fix things if they arent broke?

[MTVN]

The troll's back :xyxwave:

[King Gizzard]

Theyve always been there.

If it didn't entirely f up the Scottish league, I would love to see Celtic and Rangers in the premier league too

[30stone]

Rangers and Celtic would end up in the Championship with cardiff lol :)

[alc09]

Rangers and Celtic are Championship standard.

[Chels]

Because we were invited into 'your' league along with the Gyppos, Newport County and Merthyr. We haven't done anything wrong, all we did was accept, so live with it. Unfortunatley for you, we're going to be the first Welsh team in the Premier League, the Gyppos will never do it cos they're crap and this year is our year.

Now go home you glory supporting pikey ****.

[InOne]

Because we were invited into 'your' league along with the Gyppos, Newport County and Merthyr. We haven't done anything wrong, all we did was accept, so live with it. Unfortunatley for you, we're going to be the first Welsh team in the Premier League, the Gyppos will never do it cos they're crap and this year is our year.

Now go home you glory supporting pikey ****.

:love:

[DDRickyDD]

Unfortunatley for you, we're going to be the first Welsh team in the Premier League, the Gyppos will never do it cos they're crap and this year is our year.

Good joke that one mate. You had your big chance last season against Blackpool and you blew it. The season before that you blew it when you had a massive goal difference and Preston ended up beating you 6-0 and taking your Play-Off place. Cardiff will not get into the Premier League, which will be terrible for Cardiff as they are in massive debt and need Premier League football to balance the books.

[King Gizzard]

Nah, rangers and celtic in the english league would get HUGE financial backing and loads of players would want to join them, because of their rich historys, and fanbase size..

Both could just about scrape in the Prem right now

[Chels]

Good joke that one mate. You had your big chance last season against Blackpool and you blew it. The season before that you blew it when you had a massive goal difference and Preston ended up beating you 6-0 and taking your Play-Off place. Cardiff will not get into the Premier League, which will be terrible for Cardiff as they are in massive debt and need Premier League football to balance the books.

What the ****ing hell do you know about my club you clueless tosser. Our big chance was against Blackpool? Bitch please, have you seen our squad since then? We've improved big time, we're going up automatically and Jones knows this is his last chance now and by god he will take it. And get your facts right kiddo, that 'massive debt' you know nothing about is getting cleared quickly due to our Malaysian investment and thanks to them we've got these amazing players. Why don't you go back to wanking over a team hundreds of miles away from you in your armchair? Glory seeking ****.

[alc09]

Setting yourself up for a fall, Chels. I expect Ricky has those quotes saved.

Who other than Bellamy is 'amazing'? Miguel Comminges?

I wouldn't even say Bellamy is.

[alc09]

Nah, rangers and celtic in the english league would get HUGE financial backing and loads of players would want to join them, because of their rich historys, and fanbase size..

Both could just about scrape in the Prem right now
Celtic would just about stay up, but have you seen the Rangers side? :joker:

[seanraff07]

Rangers and Celtic would toil to get promoted to the EPL in the Championship yet they try to convince themselfs they are 'Big Four' material.

And if you are questioning why Cardiff and Swansea are in an English league, why are Berwick Rangers in a Scottish League?

And added to the fact that Cardiff and Swansea were formed before a Welsh league was, if they were in the Welsh league they would dominate like the Old Firm have for years, just hope they'll eventually **** off to an English League instead of cheating their way to success here in Scotland.

[seanraff07]

Celtic would just about stay up, but have you seen the Rangers side? :joker:

Rangers aren't financially stable enough to move to the EPL.

They have no money to improve on the squad they've got and they don't have a squad capable of staying up in the EPL at the moment IMO.

[Chels]

Setting yourself up for a fall, Chels. I expect Ricky has those quotes saved.

Who other than Bellamy is 'amazing'? Miguel Comminges?

I wouldn't even say Bellamy is.

Setting myself up for a fall? Er no, if we don't do it this year then I'll eat my bedroom door. I know how to shut that glory hunting twat up, sitting in in front of Sky Sports jizzing over Man Utd and Chelsea when I bet he's never been to Old Trafford or Stamford Bridge once. Whilst there's me at Bury away on a Tuesday night in the old Division 3 watching us lose 2-0 in the pissing rain.

Bothroyd, Chopra, Burke, Whittingham, McPhail, Olifinjana, McNaughton, Marshall, Drinkwater and Keogh are all capable Premiership players. And **** Ricky, if he's gonna talk out of his arse like he's been doing since he started posting then frankly I can't be arsed. He's nothing but a troll, all I know is my boys are in the 'English' league and he's going to have to live with it cos we ain't going ****ing anywhere anytime soon.

[seanraff07]

Setting myself up for a fall? Er no, if we don't do it this year then I'll eat my bedroom door. I know how to shut that glory hunting twat up, sitting in in front of Sky Sports jizzing over Man Utd and Chelsea when I bet he's never been to Old Trafford or Stamford Bridge once. Whilst there's me at Bury away on a Tuesday night in the old Division 3 watching us lose 2-0 in the pissing rain.

Bothroyd, Chopra, Burke, Whittingham, McPhail, Olifinjana, McNaughton, Marshall, Drinkwater and Keogh are all capable Premiership players. And **** Ricky, if he's gonna talk out of his arse like he's been doing since he started posting then frankly I can't be arsed. He's nothing but a troll, all I know is my boys are in the 'English' league and he's going to have to live with it cos we ain't going ****ing anywhere anytime soon.

I can't help but laugh at that.:laugh2:

[alc09]

Drinkwater? The guy at Huddersfield last season? :joker: :joker:

I'll reply to you post in a second, I'm still laughing. If to name the likes of McPhail and McNaughton wasn;t bad enough, you go and name Drinkwater!

****ing brilliant.

[alc09]

Setting myself up for a fall? Er no, if we don't do it this year then I'll eat my bedroom door. I know how to shut that glory hunting twat up, sitting in in front of Sky Sports jizzing over Man Utd and Chelsea when I bet he's never been to Old Trafford or Stamford Bridge once. Whilst there's me at Bury away on a Tuesday night in the old Division 3 watching us lose 2-0 in the pissing rain.

Bothroyd, Chopra, Burke, Whittingham, McPhail, Olifinjana, McNaughton, Marshall, Drinkwater and Keogh are all capable Premiership players. And **** Ricky, if he's gonna talk out of his arse like he's been doing since he started posting then frankly I can't be arsed. He's nothing but a troll, all I know is my boys are in the 'English' league and he's going to have to live with it cos we ain't going ****ing anywhere anytime soon.
Based on what?

If they are all capable Premiership players what are they doing at Cardiff City in the Championship?

The pick of them lot you mentioned is Chopra, and he failed last time he was in the big time. I won't even bother with the rest you named as I expect you are on the wind up.

I think you will go up, but by being so certain you are setting yourself up for a fall if you don't make it. Not sure how that is so hard to undertstand.

[Chels]

McPhail cut it with Leeds, McNaughton is the best full-back outside the Prem by miles, you can go on CCMB and they'll all say exactly the same. I watch these boys week in week out and I have for years, I think I know more about them than you do. And FYI Danny Drinkwater's on loan from Man Utd, if Fergie sees something in him then I'm sure he's gonna be a star some day.

[alc09]

:joker:

They play well in the Championship, must be Prem standard.

McPhail is a run of the mill Championship midfielder.

There's plenty of youngsters sent out on loan by Man United (most don't make it), doens't make them Premiership standard.

McNaughton the best full back outside of the Prem by miles? I'm sure he is.

I'm not sure what CCMB is.....

[Chels]

Based on what?

If they are all capable Premiership players what are they doing at Cardiff City in the Championship?

The pick of them lot you mentioned is Chopra, and he failed last time he was in the big time. I won't even bother with the rest you named as I expect you are on the wind up.

I think you will go up, but by being so certain you are setting yourself up for a fall if you don't make it. Not sure how that is so hard to undertstand.

None of them have been given their big break. Bothroyd was in the Prem but his attitude was awful, same with Chopra, although both have recieved Prem interest but we rejected every bid from them. Keogh's good enough but needs more experience hence why he's on loan here. Olofinjana is one of the unsung top players in British football, was excellent in the Prem with Hull but due to finiancial difficulty with them he's now with us. Marshall could easily be up there if he worked on dealing with crosses, it's his only fault and he's the best shot stopper in the Championship. And if you don't think Whitts or Burke are good enough for the Prem then you're blind :joker: I've already said what I think about McPhail and McNaughton and both of them are injury prone as **** or otherwise they'd be there.

And with the 'if they're good enough for the premiership then why are they in the championship' bit, same could be said for Bellamy then?

I see these guys play almost everyweek so I think myself and other Cardiff supporters opinions on our players are more justified than yours thanks very much.

[Chels]

Danny's one to look out for, I can guarantee you he'll be in their first team within the next couple of years. He's a defensive central midfielder but when he's on the attack he's ripped teams apart. CCMB = the Cardiff forum and they'll tell you exactly the same thing I've been telling you.

[alc09]

My reply was deleted, but in short - you're talking ****e.

[Chels]

Utter bullsh*t. Stop acting like a ***** because I'm voicing my thoughts. You say I know nothing yet I know plenty of football fans who've actually said I know my stuff. Like I've said about 748502917284 times in this thread, I WATCH THESE PLAYERS WEEK IN WEEK OUT. With the squad we have we're capable of winning the league and avoiding relegation from the Prem. By no means I said they're world beaters which by the sounds of it you're trying to make out that's what I was implying, I said they're capable. Which means they could keep us up, it's not really hard to understand is it.

Since when does an attitude problem affect your ability meaning you're not good enough?Bothroyd was in Arsenal's youth team but was thrown out due to kicking off in the dressing room about being on the bench as he just recovered from injury. Chopra had a gambling and drinking problem.

Welshmen? Funnily enough, some of the guys on there are English. Hardly any of our fans are biased, there's a lot of players we have they call **** like Gavin Rae. Funnily enough about McPhail and McNaughton, our fans hated them both at first. They kicked off about how he's always injury prone, but his game makes up for that because he is ****ing brilliant. They didn't like McPhail as he was always in poor form when he came here, he's been playing excellent the past two seasons so I can't see why he can't become the player he was before.

[alc09]

http://www.thefootballforum.net/

http://www.megasoccer.com/forums/

Post what you have said here on either of those two sites, you would get absolutely ripped to shreds.

The only capable Premiership player you have is Craig Bellamy. Simple as that.

Chopra and Bothroyd are both rejects.

[Chels]

Okay you keep telling yourself that. Once Chops and Jay get their chance in the Premiership with a team who'll accept them (probabaly us) just watch and you'll see. There's nothing wrong with saying a few players who currently play in the Championship could cut it in the Prem anyway, and by Drinkwater I meant for the future. He's a great little prospect he is along with Adam Matthews.

[alc09]

Okay you keep telling yourself that. Once Chops and Jay get their chance in the Premiership with a team who'll accept them (probabaly us) just watch and you'll see. There's nothing wrong with saying a few players who currently play in the Championship could cut it in the Prem anyway, and by Drinkwater I meant for the future. He's a great little prospect he is along with Adam Matthews.
Not denying that, but does being a great prospect mean he is a capable Premier League player?

At this moment in time, Chopra and Bothroyd are good Championship players, not capable Premiership players as they have 'failed' in that league in the past. If you get promoted and they do the job then fair enough if you call them that.

With Bellamy in your side, I'd be very surprised if you don't go up. But expect to be laughed at after your earlier comments if you don't. :thumbs:

[Raph]

What an ignorant thread. Bluebirds holla!

[30stone]

Thing is blackpool are no premier league side player for player.

[DDRickyDD]

What the ****ing hell do you know about my club you clueless tosser. Our big chance was against Blackpool? Bitch please, have you seen our squad since then? We've improved big time, we're going up automatically and Jones knows this is his last chance now and by god he will take it. And get your facts right kiddo, that 'massive debt' you know nothing about is getting cleared quickly due to our Malaysian investment and thanks to them we've got these amazing players. Why don't you go back to wanking over a team hundreds of miles away from you in your armchair? Glory seeking ****.

I've seen your squad and it doesn't look that good tbh. Your only decent player is Bellamy and when things don't go his way he will start throwing his toys out of the pram and upset team morale like he has at other clubs. Mark my words, Cardiff won't finish in the top 6.

[SocietyIsRuined]

If Cardiff do go up into the premiership then they will be able to buy premiership quality players. Half of the teams in the premiership haven't got champions league quality players anyway.

Cardiff City is a huge club in a huge city which hasn't been looked after for the last 30+ years. Now they have the new chairman then everything is on the up for them. Dave Jones has done an amazing job with what he's had.

When they do go up then people will be shocked at their support. Many fans who glory hunt in Cardiff will switch allegiance to the Bluebirds. People have to remember in Wales, Football is not the national sport. The eggchasers still rule the roost here and both news channels. Cardiff going up would also change that big time.