Nadia "horrified by Davina's transphobic comments"

[President]

This has been posted by BB5 housemate Marco Sabba on DS:
She was also horrified to hear Davina's comments on Big Mouth about 'boyish good looks', amongst other jibes. Racial jokes would not be tolerated so she is at a loss and devastated to see such transphobic comments screened, especially by an influential TV presenter who she once admired. The transphobic slurs made and broadcast on Big Mouth and BBLB merely seem to reinforce BB’s position that transphobia is fully permitted and allowed by the BB platform.

That bitch Davina went a step too far. I'm delighted Channel 5 won't be taking her. 90% of her other TV shows are flops. Davina's on a downward spiral and will be back on drugs soon. She'll be in rehab within 12 months. Mark my words.

Here's the full post by Marco:
I just wanted to say a deeply felt thank you to everyone who took the time to post in the initial thread and private messaged words of kindness and encouragement to Nadia. Everything has been read and all warm sentiments past forward. I feel I owe it to you all to provide an update. Nadia is beginning to seem a little more stable over the past day, we've been sharing little laughs and ordered in a nice lunch. She had otherwise been fairly inconsolable over the weekend.

Having learnt the full extent of editted misrepresentation between herself and Coolio, the more upset she's become and determined to share the truth of events. It's clear that several direct incidents of transphobic abuse have been cut, including:

- Coolio refusing to refer to Nadia as a she and calling her 'he', and more hurtfully, 'it', directly to her and other housemates.
- Frequently asking whether Nadia still had male parts despite warnings from Big Brother.
- Deliberately elbowing Nadia painfully in the back while walking past during a dinner.
- Coolio receiving 3 verbal warnings from BB specifically for abusive and threatening behaviour against Nadia, and
- Being *asked* to leave the Big Brother house, not requesting to leave as a result of his persistent abuse, not because Nadia irrationally lost her temper over a pair of hidden shoes (without context of the abuse).

Emily Big Brother 8, by contrast, had been removed from the Big Brother house for saying a single racist word. Nadia was at the receiving end of days of transphobic abuse.

She was also horrified to hear Davina's comments on Big Mouth about 'boyish good looks', amongst other jibes. Racial jokes would not be tolerated so she is at a loss and devastated to see such transphobic comments screened, especially by an influential TV presenter who she once admired. The transphobic slurs made and broadcast on Big Mouth and BBLB merely seem to reinforce BB’s position that transphobia is fully permitted and allowed by the BB platform.

Nadia has not heard from senior producers since Saturday afternoon and feels they have directly failed her, skirting all contact despite numerous and repeated requests to speak. I am requesting now that you APPEAL with your feet and words. If you feel strongly about this matter and want to do something to directly help Nadia now, please complain to OFCOM about this matter

[Raph]

It's a sad story.

[lastcallforsin]

I don't think Davina has done anything wrong and it's nothing that some other people wouldn't say. Big Mouth does that and most people take things as a joke and, in the words of John James "if you can't hack it, get your jacket". Nadia is milking this for all it's worth.

[Shasown]

This has been posted by BB5 housemate Marco Sabba on DS:

That bitch Davina went a step too far. I'm delighted Channel 5 won't be taking her. 90% of her other TV shows are flops. Davina's on a downward spiral and will be back on drugs soon. She'll be in rehab within 12 months. Mark my words.

Here's the full post by Marco:

Hey President send the second quote to your mate Gavin, that used to be his pasttime wasnt it, complaining to OfCom?

[InOne]

Nadia should sue and kill this godforsaken show once and for all!!

[BBfan46]

Are you serious?

[Claymores]

Hey President send the second quote to your mate Gavin, that used to be his pasttime wasnt it, complaining to OfCom?

You beat me to it Tel :hugesmile:

[heyugoonie]

I've been going off Davina for the last couple of years, but this just made my mind up that she is a catty bitch.

[Niamh.]

isn't the LF that people pay for 24 hours? How come no one saw any of this?

[brian3]

people made comments like that about Nadia on BBBM during bb5 all the time. Russel Brand said worse at the time.

[Shasown]

You beat me to it Tel :hugesmile:

Sorry Ian, would have left it for you if I had known you were online mate :wink:

[Chuckyegg]

Someones been mistaking the Daily Star as factual methinks

[Niamh.]

people made comments like that about Nadia on BBBM during bb5 all the time. Russel Brand said worse at the time.

and like some one said earlier it's only an issue now cos she got booed

[iRyan]

It's really unfortune that as a previous winner her relationship with the producers and Big Brother itself has now been ruined.

[Shasown]

There may even be some truth to what Nadia says happened with Coolio, however she is overreacting I think. She simply cant accept the fact the public dont like her as much as she thought they did. It simply looks like sour grapes.

[SoBig]

I don't think Davina has done anything wrong and it's nothing that some other people wouldn't say. Big Mouth does that and most people take things as a joke and, in the words of John James "if you can't hack it, get your jacket". Nadia is milking this for all it's worth.
Davina did nothing wrong. I also watched Big Mouth and nothing she said was meant to be offensive. Nadia is taking everything out of context, so that she won't look as bad in the public's eye.

[SoBig]

isn't the LF that people pay for 24 hours? How come no one saw any of this?
because it didn't happen. How come we only now hearing about it? *rolls eyes*

[smudgie]

Time to let it all drop.
Marco is an attentions seeker, same as his mate Nadia. Both losers looking for "fame" on the back of this incident, using it to make some money maybe:hugesmile:
Davina should not have mentioned boyish good looks, for one thing Nadia is no longer a boy, and for another she is too plain looking to be classed as good looking.

[Niamh.]

because it didn't happen. How come we only now hearing about it? *rolls eyes*

yeah, I mean surely someone on here would have seen something or atleast heard her talking about it to the other HMs if she was that distressed:conf:

[Patrick]

We :love: Marco!

Draaaama!

[Jamietwo]

- Coolio refusing to refer to Nadia as a she and calling her 'he', and more hurtfully, 'it', directly to her and other housemates.
- Frequently asking whether Nadia still had male parts despite warnings from Big Brother.
- Deliberately elbowing Nadia painfully in the back while walking past during a dinner.
- Coolio receiving 3 verbal warnings from BB specifically for abusive and threatening behaviour against Nadia, and
- Being *asked* to leave the Big Brother house, not requesting to leave as a result of his persistent abuse, not because Nadia irrationally lost her temper over a pair of hidden shoes (without context of the abuse).

I wasn't aware of this, it's really bad. coolio was just being coolio ie a one hit hasbeen crack addict with narcissistic personality disorder and an immature macho attitude problem. however BB clearly failed to show the situation in context. No wonder Nardia went off the rails to that extent, all things considered she handled herself well. She can take a joke as is evident from her self depreciating humor during her interview, and in hindsight it is clear that she survived a level of provocation and bullying that would destroy most of us. I'm also disappointed in Davina for her apparent insensitivity on this occasion. I'm not a fan of litigation at every opportunity, but in this case I really do hope Nadia goes ahead and wins.

[Niamh.]

We :love: Marco!

Draaaama!

oh I hated Marco!

[MassiveTruck]

isn't the LF that people pay for 24 hours? How come no one saw any of this?

It probably didn't happen in the extreme of what Marco is hoping for.

This is after all Marco re-living his Big Brother days through Nadia isn't it.

[Niamh.]

- Coolio refusing to refer to Nadia as a she and calling her 'he', and more hurtfully, 'it', directly to her and other housemates.
- Frequently asking whether Nadia still had male parts despite warnings from Big Brother.
- Deliberately elbowing Nadia painfully in the back while walking past during a dinner.
- Coolio receiving 3 verbal warnings from BB specifically for abusive and threatening behaviour against Nadia, and
- Being *asked* to leave the Big Brother house, not requesting to leave as a result of his persistent abuse, not because Nadia irrationally lost her temper over a pair of hidden shoes (without context of the abuse).

I wasn't aware of this, it's really bad. coolio was just being coolio ie a one hit hasbeen crack addict with narcissistic personality disorder and an immature macho attitude problem. however BB clearly failed to show the situation in context. No wonder Nardia went off the rails to that extent, all things considered she handled herself well. She can take a joke as is evident from her self depreciating humor during her interview, and in hindsight it is clear that she survived a level of provocation and bullying that would destroy most of us. I'm also disappointed in Davina for her apparent insensitivity on this occasion. I'm not a fan of litigation at every opportunity, but in this case I really do hope Nadia goes ahead and wins.

Yes but again I'll repeat, how come know one who was watching l/f saw any of that or heard her talking about it? If it was the way she was saying then surely Nadia would be talking about it to her friends in there alot?:conf:

[billy123]

people made comments like that about Nadia on BBBM during bb5 all the time. Russel Brand said worse at the time.Exactly right nadia never seemed to give a damn about these things when she was winning.
sCS5Ke7nXpI

[Jamietwo]

Yes but again I'll repeat, how come know one who was watching l/f saw any of that or heard her talking about it? If it was the way she was saying then surely Nadia would be talking about it to her friends in there alot?:conf:

That's a fair point and something I have wondered myself, if these events are true and did happen, most people would have been destroyed and crying etc maybe nadia has a strong survival mask though. Also , from what i have read , people with access to LF do not see or hear everything that goes on, just that which BB allows.

[CaudleHalbard]

Nadia doesn't have good looks at all. Davina was doing her a favour! :joker:

[MassiveTruck]

That's a fair point and something I have wondered myself, if these events are true and did happen, most people would have been destroyed and crying etc maybe nadia has a strong survival mask though. Also , from what i have read , people with access to LF do not see or hear everything that goes on, just that which BB allows.

Or forget tokenism with Nadia and treat Coolio and her as people.

Coolio and her had an argument. Nadia kicked off in epic monstrous form so Coolio had to leave because they couldn't control Nadia.

Occam's Razor.

[Niamh.]

That's a fair point and something I have wondered myself, if these events are true and did happen, most people would have been destroyed and crying etc maybe nadia has a strong survival mask though. Also , from what i have read , people with access to LF do not see or hear everything that goes on, just that which BB allows.

well there is usually 3 sides to every story!

[MojoNixon]

This has been posted by BB5 housemate Marco Sabba on DS:

That bitch Davina went a step too far. I'm delighted Channel 5 won't be taking her. 90% of her other TV shows are flops. Davina's on a downward spiral and will be back on drugs soon. She'll be in rehab within 12 months. Mark my words.

Here's the full post by Marco:

Bulls**t.

[Jamietwo]

Exactly right nadia never seemed to give a damn about these things when she was winning.
sCS5Ke7nXpI

she wasn't being attacked constantly by some psychotic nut job though. also she was in the house till the end, all the jokes and banter about her gender were on programs on the outside. opinions are like arseholes everyones got one...and good humored comments aren't the problem here. If these allegations are true then she was seriously harassed, provoked and then mis-represented. Davina's comments are not the problem, they just add insult to injury, but maybe Davina wasn't aware of what went on either. And other posters do have a point about there being a hierarchy of what is deemed offensive, with anything against blacks being at the top of the list by far.

[Shasown]

That's a fair point and something I have wondered myself, if these events are true and did happen, most people would have been destroyed and crying etc maybe nadia has a strong survival mask though. Also , from what i have read , people with access to LF do not see or hear everything that goes on, just that which BB allows.

Ever think it was no where hear as bad as Nadia and Marco make out. They have had a couple of days to gauge peoples reactions and come up with an exagerated storyline for her to salvage something from the catastrophe that was her time in UBB

If what she said did happen, how come none of the housemates noticed, or if they did, didnt speak about it nor have spoken about it since. How come she never mentioned it while either in the house or just after her eviction.

Gosh you dont think think its because some newspaper has offered her an exclusive story deal guaranteed to keep her in the public eye for a few hours more? Even if it does mean she has to bend the truth a bit. Or then again a 'source' near Nadia, could tell her story for her. Like he is doing currently.

[Jamietwo]

Or forget tokenism with Nadia and treat Coolio and her as people.

Coolio and her had an argument. Nadia kicked off in epic monstrous form so Coolio had to leave because they couldn't control Nadia.

Occam's Razor.


- Coolio refusing to refer to Nadia as a she and calling her 'he', and more hurtfully, 'it', directly to her and other housemates.
- Frequently asking whether Nadia still had male parts despite warnings from Big Brother.
- Deliberately elbowing Nadia painfully in the back while walking past during a dinner.
- Coolio receiving 3 verbal warnings from BB specifically for abusive and threatening behaviour against Nadia, and
- Being *asked* to leave the Big Brother house, not requesting to leave as a result of his persistent abuse, not because Nadia irrationally lost her temper over a pair of hidden shoes (without context of the abuse).


well the above is more than an argument...what would have happened if nadia had constantly got at coolio for eg asking him if he could blush, and how does he control his odor, is it true his IQ is lower, how is he coping without watermelons and fried chicken in the house...etc she would never be safe in public again.

[MojoNixon]

Nadia? Who?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

because it didn't happen. How come we only now hearing about it? *rolls eyes*

It did happen.

I heard Brian and Chantelle talking about it on live feed.

[Shasown]

- Coolio refusing to refer to Nadia as a she and calling her 'he', and more hurtfully, 'it', directly to her and other housemates.
- Frequently asking whether Nadia still had male parts despite warnings from Big Brother.
- Deliberately elbowing Nadia painfully in the back while walking past during a dinner.
- Coolio receiving 3 verbal warnings from BB specifically for abusive and threatening behaviour against Nadia, and
- Being *asked* to leave the Big Brother house, not requesting to leave as a result of his persistent abuse, not because Nadia irrationally lost her temper over a pair of hidden shoes (without context of the abuse).


well the above is more than an argument...what would have happened if nadia had constantly got at coolio for eg asking him if he could blush, and how does he control his odor, is it true his IQ is lower, how is he coping without watermelons and fried chicken in the house...etc she would never be safe in public again.

Once again you are assuming that everything Nadia and Marco are saying is the gospel truth.

Normally there are two sides to an argument and then there is the truth.

[Shasown]

Maybe its just gripes because she got evicted and she got beat in the 'come dine with me' BB special?

Two major defeats for the best cook and best housemate, pretty strong medicine even for narrrdiarrrr

[Jamietwo]

Once again you are assuming that everything Nadia and Marco are saying is the gospel truth.

Normally there are two sides to an argument and then there is the truth.

well IF it is true and it goes to legal proceedings then i would have thought that bb would be obliged to provide the evidence.

[MTVN]

- Coolio refusing to refer to Nadia as a she and calling her 'he', and more hurtfully, 'it', directly to her and other housemates.
- Frequently asking whether Nadia still had male parts despite warnings from Big Brother.
- Deliberately elbowing Nadia painfully in the back while walking past during a dinner.
- Coolio receiving 3 verbal warnings from BB specifically for abusive and threatening behaviour against Nadia, and
- Being *asked* to leave the Big Brother house, not requesting to leave as a result of his persistent abuse, not because Nadia irrationally lost her temper over a pair of hidden shoes (without context of the abuse).


well the above is more than an argument...what would have happened if nadia had constantly got at coolio for eg asking him if he could blush, and how does he control his odor, is it true his IQ is lower, how is he coping without watermelons and fried chicken in the house...etc she would never be safe in public again.

Well, I dont know about most of them, it seems nobody does and I wouldnt immediately accept it as truth when the only thing anyone has to go on is their word, but I know that whenever I heard Coolio referring to Nadia he always used "she" and not once did I hear him call her a "he" or "it".

[BB_Eye]

She was a disgrace on Big Mouth. No wonder they wouldn't upload last friday's episode to 4od.

[Shasown]

well IF it is true and it goes to legal proceedings then i would have thought that bb would be obliged to provide the evidence.

Something tells me that after a few more little snippets dropped to the Star we wont hear anymore about it.

Draw your own conclusions if this story dries up after a couple of days.

Unless of course she pisses off the BB producers and they challenge her to review all their footage and prove her case or shut up. After a public apology to Coolio and BB.

[MassiveTruck]

- Coolio refusing to refer to Nadia as a she and calling her 'he', and more hurtfully, 'it', directly to her and other housemates.
- Frequently asking whether Nadia still had male parts despite warnings from Big Brother.
- Deliberately elbowing Nadia painfully in the back while walking past during a dinner.
- Coolio receiving 3 verbal warnings from BB specifically for abusive and threatening behaviour against Nadia, and
- Being *asked* to leave the Big Brother house, not requesting to leave as a result of his persistent abuse, not because Nadia irrationally lost her temper over a pair of hidden shoes (without context of the abuse).


well the above is more than an argument...what would have happened if nadia had constantly got at coolio for eg asking him if he could blush, and how does he control his odor, is it true his IQ is lower, how is he coping without watermelons and fried chicken in the house...etc she would never be safe in public again.

That's all hearsay.

[rosieb]

Who appointed Marco as sole spokesperson for Nadia and if what he is saying is true then why doesn't Nadia come directly out and say it herself instead of relying on an over dramatic, unreliable Marco.

Davina said nothing out of order with her comic response - IF Nadia has taken offence it is more likely down to the fact that she now realises that she has been shown up for what she really is an egotistical drama queen and is trying every angle to take the heat of her and put it on someone else.

Having watched loads of live feed I never saw half the things mentioned by Marco - yes we all know Coolio is a prat and over the top but so is Nadia and I think it was mainly two huge egos clashing as a result of being confined to a small space and it came down in the end to who ever screamed the loudest got BB's attention and got to stay in the house!

[Jamietwo]

She was a disgrace on Big Mouth. No wonder they wouldn't upload last friday's episode to 4od.

reeeeaaaaally ?! hmmmmm that's interesting

[rosieb]

She was a disgrace on Big Mouth. No wonder they wouldn't upload last friday's episode to 4od.

Don't know what Big Mouth programme you were looking at - there is no way Davina was a disgrace - if you can't take some light hearted banter - don't watch it - its probably on way past your bedtime anyway

[Jase.]

Wow. Just...wow.

I've complained to Ofcom.

[Shasown]

Wow. Just...wow.

I've complained to Ofcom.

So have I.

Damn that McCall woman she was nowhere near as disgraceful as normal. Positive discrimination in favour of transexuals. She laid into the silly slapper female but hardly mentioned the portuguese one.

If they do find my complaint valid and I can see no reason why they shouldnt, I have asked that McCall be sent round my house, for me to discipline her properly.

[MojoNixon]

Wow. Just...wow.

I've complained to Ofcom.

:sleep:

So have I.

Damn that McCall woman she was nowhere near as disgraceful as normal. Positive discrimination in favour of transexuals. She laid into the silly slapper female but hardly mentioned the portuguese one.

If they do find my complaint valid and I can see no reason why they shouldnt, I have asked that McCall be sent round my house, for me to discipline her properly.


Get a ******ing life.

[Shasown]

Get a ******ing life.

No thanks I have one. And quite a good one even if I do say myself.


Perhaps you should consider investing in or obtaining a sense of humour.

[MojoNixon]

No thanks I have one. And quite a good one even if I do say myself.


Perhaps you should consider investing in or obtaining a sense of humour.

Maybe so :xyxwave:

[rosieb]

Wow. Just...wow.

I've complained to Ofcom.

I'm complaining to Ofcom that some people don't have a life so they waste Ofcom's time and money by complaining about sweet feck all.

[Mystrios]

I think people are taking all this way over the top

[Jase.]

I'm complaining to Ofcom that some people don't have a life so they waste Ofcom's time and money by complaining about sweet feck all.

Oh, well isn't that fabulous?!?

[rosieb]

Oh, well isn't that fabulous?!?

Well it makes as much sense as dumbwits who cry to Ofcom over crap - Nadia is just not worth the price of a phonecall - exect when it is voting her out of BB - ha ha :joker::joker:

[flamingGalah!]

Just because people have access to live feed it doesn't mean they get to see everything that goes on! BB decides what footage goes out & half the time the sound is cut, probably when they were talking about Nadia's transphobic abuse from that washed up old letch Coolio...

Those who do not believe that any of this actually happened how do you explain Coolio's swift exit? And surely if Nadia making this up she would hardly be taking legal action, considering that everything would have been caught on camera...

Not to mention that BB has actually admitted it anyway & said that they didn't show any of it in the hi-lights as they "didn't have time"... And Brian HAS mentioned on Live Feed about Coolio abusing Nadia too...

[flamingGalah!]

Well it makes as much sense as dumbwits who cry to Ofcom over crap - Nadia is just not worth the price of a phonecall - exect when it is voting her out of BB - ha ha :joker::joker:

Aren't you a really charming person... Nadia is a human with feelings you know... :nono:

[rosieb]

Aren't you a really charming person... Nadia is a human with feelings you know... :nono:

Yes thanks I am quite charming!! I also know when to call a spade a spade - I have never once condoned Coolio for his actions however Nadia certainly was not the innocent party that she likes to think she is - by her own admission she is argumentative and a diva so all the do gooders out there need to listen to the girl herself and realise exactly what kind of a person she is

[Jase.]

Well it makes as much sense as dumbwits who cry to Ofcom over crap - Nadia is just not worth the price of a phonecall - exect when it is voting her out of BB - ha ha :joker::joker:

...and it makes as much sense as halfwits who come and moan on an internet forum over that same "crap". ROFL. I simply can NOT.

[flamingGalah!]

Yes thanks I am quite charming!! I also know when to call a spade a spade - I have never once condoned Coolio for his actions however Nadia certainly was not the innocent party that she likes to think she is - by her own admission she is argumentative and a diva so all the do gooders out there need to listen to the girl herself and realise exactly what kind of a person she is

So because Nadia has a firey temper & can be argumentative it is acceptable for someone to bully her & make transphobic comments to her??

She may appear like a strong person but all the sh*t she has had to deal with in her life & now all this, where she is apparently suicidal, obviously proves she isn't that strong... For BB to make such biased editing is disgraceful & I hope she succeeds in sueing them...

[M X]

I do like Nadia, but I like Davina also. She is reading of a script, she didn't just make it up of the top of her head.

[M X]

I think people are taking all this way over the top

If Coolio was white, and Nadia was black and he was elbowing her in the back, referring to her as 'it', he would have been removed from the house instantly. But because it's transphobia, nothing was done about it.

Why should this issue be treated any differently?

[rosieb]

What people are forgetting is that Nadia has not made one comment about this herself - the source of all this "hysteria" is coming from Marco who lets face is thrives on hysteria so until Nadia actual sues C4 for all the "alleged" offences they have committed on her well then I personally would take all the hysteria with a pinch of salt!!

[Rob!]

I missed Big Mouth friday - Was Davina's boyish comment from the autocue or from her own mouth?

[Beastie]

Marco loves to drum up the drama.

One of Nadia's little spokes puppet's ;)

[Callum]

Davina back on drugs? I doubt it, she's got a nice life with kids now.

[Shasown]

So because Nadia has a firey temper & can be argumentative it is acceptable for someone to bully her & make transphobic comments to her??

She may appear like a strong person but all the sh*t she has had to deal with in her life & now all this, where she is apparently suicidal, obviously proves she isn't that strong... For BB to make such biased editing is disgraceful & I hope she succeeds in sueing them...

Who bullied her? What proof do you have?

Love the next paragraph, being "apparently suicidal" doesnt "obviously prove" anything

[Beso]

do it.

[flamingGalah!]

Who bullied her? What proof do you have?

Love the next paragraph, being "apparently suicidal" doesnt "obviously prove" anything

Well Coolio did obviously. He made transphobic comments & he himself admitted that he was deliberately targeting Nadia & he wouldn't stop. That is bullying. Please keep up...

And well done, yes I put "apparently" as we don't know that for a fact... But she is obviously in a state as everyone could see on Friday night...

[Shasown]

Well Coolio did obviously. He made transphobic comments & he himself admitted that he was deliberately targeting Nadia & he wouldn't stop. That is bullying. Please keep up...

And well done, yes I put "apparently" as we don't know that for a fact... But she is obviously in a state as everyone could see on Friday night...

I love the way your selective amnesia kicks in at certain times, he also said he will trade like with like, how does that fit in with your theory. And still no proof either eh? Just the same tired rhetoric.

Her shocked state may simply have been due to the fact she actually got evicted then, she wasnt nearly as popular as she obviously thought she was, and the fact the crowd booed her upon her exit from the house.

Wake up and smell the coffee! She expected to win the show, she even referred to herself on a few occassions as the nations sweetheart, not only while in the house but she made a few pointed comments during the CDWM BB special.

Now she finds the public have turned on her for the way she behaved so whoever is playing the Max Clifford role in her life has come up with this wonderful idea to drum up some support for her by totally blowing out of proportion anything that did happen between Coolio and herself.

[Beso]

Funniest thing about nadias eviction was when davina was announcing the names and nadia was all set for the cheers when her name was mentioned, waving her hands in the air and full of confidence. Seeing it all drain away within one second when the boos came when davina said nadia was tremendous. her adams apple bobbled and the smile faded before her arms fell limply because of the slumping shoulders..classic tv. something I won't forget in a hurry.

[CaudleHalbard]

Nadia needs to get a life. Getting her male bits chopped off (and reused) and bags of silicon pushed into an otherwise flat chest has not made her happy.

So she blames everything and everyone else. When she really only has herself to blame.

[Jamietwo]

I like her little flat, she will be ok. If I was her I'd open a bar in Ibiza or something.

[keithafc]

I don't know what is more sad, the fact that people are taking what Davina said so seriously on a GAME SHOW or the fact president made such a stupid ****ing comment about her going back on drugs.

Yeah, she is a millionarie and has a number of shows on the run, she is just going to go back on drugs. Never mind the shows she is on.. how f'ing stupid is that? FFS man. Wise up.

[Rob!]

I missed Big Mouth friday - Was Davina's boyish comment from the autocue or from her own mouth

[Keith_Can]

I feel no sympathy whatsoever for Nadia. And she does have boyish looks,. she walks around with shoulders like a rugby player and a mouth like a drunken sailor. Cry some more marco you annoying little man.

[stonedape]

- Coolio refusing to refer to Nadia as a she and calling her 'he', and more hurtfully, 'it', directly to her and other housemates.
- Frequently asking whether Nadia still had male parts despite warnings from Big Brother.
- Deliberately elbowing Nadia painfully in the back while walking past during a dinner.


It's impossible these things happened and no one watching LF made a HUGE DRAMATIC THREAD of it...so I don't know where to stand.

I was surprised by Davina's "boyish" jibe, though. It was so uncharacteristic it didn't register at first. It's as bad as the crap you read around here. :nono:

[moghirl]

There may even be some truth to what Nadia says happened with Coolio, however she is overreacting I think. She simply cant accept the fact the public dont like her as much as she thought they did. It simply looks like sour grapes.

That's exactly what I think too .. the look of shock on Nadia's face when she was evicted said it all .. she was dumbfounded that the public had voted her out .. yes, defo a case of sour grapes, imo.

[Incensed]

- Coolio refusing to refer to Nadia as a she and calling her 'he', and more hurtfully, 'it', directly to her and other housemates.
- Frequently asking whether Nadia still had male parts despite warnings from Big Brother.
- Deliberately elbowing Nadia painfully in the back while walking past during a dinner.


It's impossible these things happened and no one watching LF made a HUGE DRAMATIC THREAD of it...so I don't know where to stand.

I was surprised by Davina's "boyish" jibe, though. It was so uncharacteristic it didn't register at first. It's as bad as the crap you read around here. :nono:

Not necessarily, LF isn't live, it's on a 15 minute delay so can be edited quite easily. We only see what they want us to see and quite often there are sound cuts.

[Livia]

Nadia Overreacting?? Surely not!!

Nadia's one of those dreadfully dramatic people who feel they can dish out any cruel, bitchy, rude comment to anyone they please. But the minute someone is even midly critical of her, it's a MASSIVE DRAMA! I'm sure having lived the life she has, she's had to deal with quite a bit of flack. You'd think she'd be better equipped to deal with it really, instead of going apoplectic everyone someone looks at her sideways.

[robb]

In the DR they did say to Coolio his behaviour had been poor towards Nadi before, and that he was unlikely to change. I thought they WANTED him out......but has Nadia over- egged this via Marco?

[Kazanne]

This has been posted by BB5 housemate Marco Sabba on DS:

That bitch Davina went a step too far. I'm delighted Channel 5 won't be taking her. 90% of her other TV shows are flops. Davina's on a downward spiral and will be back on drugs soon. She'll be in rehab within 12 months. Mark my words.

Here's the full post by Marco:

Davina is NOT a bitch at all,BB would never be the same without her,and how nasty to insinuate that she will be back on drugs soon!!! and YOU are calling HER for what she said,lol,pot calling kettle,comes to mind.naqdia should never have gone back if she is that unstable,I am sure worse has been said to her/him in the big wide world!

[_Seth]

I don't know what is more sad, the fact that people are taking what Davina said so seriously on a GAME SHOW or the fact president made such a stupid ****ing comment about her going back on drugs.

Yeah, she is a millionarie and has a number of shows on the run, she is just going to go back on drugs. Never mind the shows she is on.. how f'ing stupid is that? FFS man. Wise up.

It's a REALITY show FFS. Even if it was just a ****ty quick gameshow, it's still a very offensive comment.

[Sunday]

Oh dear, they are obviously trying to work out how to make money after her losing.
Sour grapes I think, Nadia was a shocked as hell when her name got called out. If she is as sensitive as that , she should never have gone into BB house.

[Livia]

With all the bad stuff going on in the world, the outrage about a stupid remark, made to someone who's probably heard it - and worse - allllllllllllllllll before, is laughable. If you want to get all self-righteous about people being oppressed, pick a more deserving target, why don't you.

[Sunday]

With all the bad stuff going on in the world, the outrage about a stupid remark, made to someone who's probably heard it - and worse - allllllllllllllllll before, it laughable. If you want to get all self-righteous about people being oppressed, pick a more deserving target, why don't you.

I totally agree. I expect things have been said to a lot of housemates recently and in the past. Trust Nadia to start complaining.

[brian3]

she wasn't being attacked constantly by some psychotic nut job though. also she was in the house till the end, all the jokes and banter about her gender were on programs on the outside. opinions are like arseholes everyones got one...and good humored comments aren't the problem here. If these allegations are true then she was seriously harassed, provoked and then mis-represented. Davina's comments are not the problem, they just add insult to injury, but maybe Davina wasn't aware of what went on either. And other posters do have a point about there being a hierarchy of what is deemed offensive, with anything against blacks being at the top of the list by far.

Last time she was in the house. People in the house did not know about her past. The fact remains that at the time russel Brand made jokes about her in BBBM. The audience and many of the guests did also. Nobody said a thing.

In the first 3 or 4 weeks every person who left the house was told that Nadia used to be a man. The show and Davina got flack for this. Then she just stopped doing it. No apology or anything. bo select (a channel 4 programe) made fun of it. As did Graham Norten. Ok for a gay man to make such comments. She got much, much more flack at the time because she used to be a man. But now it is a problem. excepted by the public 6 years ago, yea right. She was excepted as the publics freak. Had Nadia found out what Russel Brand and others had said at the time, and cried. It would be different.

The main reason people liked her back then is because an obnoxious, rude, childish person is ok in the eys of the public. As long as the glam up and call themselves a diva. This time she did not glam up as much, and even looked a bit scruffy at times. So people did not like her. That woman who phoned in said "why did you not have heels in the show or glam up" Davina agreed with this. So it would have been ok if she did.

[LexDex]

I am disgusted Coolio bullied Nadia like that! She should have mentioned it in the Interview with Davina. Why did BB turn on her? She is a BB Icon. I knew there was more to it than just some hidden shoes.

[30stone]

This is bull crap.

1 it isnt "transphobic"
2 im sure nadia has had much much worse thrown at her!

Shes just playing up now.

[spitfire]

Nadia needs to grow a set.

[keithafc]

It's a REALITY show FFS. Even if it was just a ****ty quick gameshow, it's still a very offensive comment.
Its hardly THAT offensive. Don't be so PC about it.

[Marsh.]

Nadia needs to grow a set.

She does. But everytime they do she goes back to the surgeon complaining of a growth.

[Jamietwo]

collios impression of nadia was very very funny, but he was not intelligent enough to deal with her in any way other than to become aggressive and derisive of her gender. His ego and insane narcissistic personality was hurt and challenged. 10 years ago he might have got away with having fear and respect shown him for being a black rapper, but people are long since tired of that loud mouth american ghetto BS

[stoney]

the good old "I was badly editted EXCUSE":sleep:

Nadia was a horrid nasty person when she "won" BB5. It was only because of her "secret" and "journey" that a lot of people felt sorry for her and voted for her over the nasty, NOT, jungle cats

Is she now running for sainthood with her head cheerleader of that clapping seal, marco, as her insperation:sleep:

But as usual its always someone else's fault:nono:

[_Seth]

She DID get edited badly FFS. How many times? Loads of abuse was left out which explains why Nadia went mental.

[fruit_cake]

Davina can dish it out, but can she take it?? i'm not so sure, why else would she escape to live in
rural france????

[Puff]

My main impression of Nadia came from her appearance on Aus BB. From that appearance I really liked her. Nadia's behaviour in this BB may have been in the drama queen/diva area and unacceptable, however, for Davina to make those comments is fairly stupid. It may be a popular stance for Davina to take but, as I understand Davina was a fan of Nadia's up until now, fairly cruel. I guess knowing which buttons to push with someone doesn't mean you need to do so.

[SFGiantsfan]

Nadia needs to get over herself her 15 minutes are up.