France must sort out the Illegals at Calais that keep getting into the UK

[arista]

Sky1
has a new series of UK border Force
they showed a supermarket fridge lorry
with 16 Afghani's.


They were all Smilling
as once back in the Pathetic French Calais Port
they will try again.



Now France is busy getting all the Roma people out
they need to sort Calais out
its there Fecking Problem.

[InOne]

From what I remember of Calais it's an absolute dump lol

[arista]

From what I remember of Calais it's an absolute dump lol



It may well be.


But France is busy getting all the Roma's out of there nation
and I am telling them to Stop the gangs hanging
around the Lorrys that they sneak onto.



It has cold deserts
they had a plastic bottle to pee in.



They all Smilled as the next day they may get in
Illegally.



France You Fecking Stink.

[MTVN]

I think they destroyed the camp there last year didn't they?

[arista]

I think they destroyed the camp there last year didn't they?


They may have
but these Illegals still hang near the lorrys.


This is a French Problem
Not Ours.

[lostalex]

Isn't the Uk like 85% white???? ...and yur complaining about too much immigration?

but Europe criticizes US for our treatment of immigrants. goodness gracious.

85% white and they're actually complaining that they're becoming TOO diverse. LOL

[arista]

Isn't the Uk like 85% white???? ...and yur complaining about too much immigration?

but Europe criticizes US for our treatment of immigrants. goodness gracious.

85% white and they're actually complaining that they're becoming TOO diverse. LOL


NO NO NO

This is about Illegals.


Fact.

[Captain.Remy]

Calais stinks badly but it's a vicious circle. The government keeps destroying the camps, but the immigrants still get back there. It's an endless problem.

And France has its ass on fire now, some major breakdown is about to happen with the EU Commission.

[arista]

Calais stinks badly but it's a vicious circle. The government keeps destroying the camps, but the immigrants still get back there. It's an endless problem.

And France has its ass on fire now, some major breakdown is about to happen with the EU Commission.



Sure I am Aware of this
I watch France24News on one of my 5 TV's.


Feck the EU Commission.

France Sort out Calais.

[Tom]

You could argue that the UK need to tighten up on whos getting in

[MTVN]

Isn't the Uk like 85% white???? ...and yur complaining about too much immigration?

but Europe criticizes US for our treatment of immigrants. goodness gracious.

85% white and they're actually complaining that they're becoming TOO diverse. LOL

What's your point? The Ethnic makeup is not the problem, overcrowding is

Do you seriously think racial percentages are the only thing relevant here :rolleyes:

[Captain.Remy]

If the UK government doesn't ask the French one to sort it out...then it won't happen. The UK is heaven for the immigrants, not France (which used to be but not anymore). It doesn't seem to be a problem for the UK government, at all.

I'm not saying it's the British government's fault but if they reacted to it, it would be much easier to have an agreement between the 2 countries...if the EU Commission approves it.

[MTVN]

If the UK government doesn't ask the French one to sort it out...then it won't happen. The UK is heaven for the immigrants, not France (which used to be but not anymore). It doesn't seem to borrow the UK government, at all.

I'm not saying it's the British's government fault but if they reacted to it, it would be much easier to have an agreement between the 2 countries...if the EU Commission approves it.

Agree with that.

[lostalex]

What's your point? The Ethnic makeup is not the problem, overcrowding is

Do you seriously think racial percentages are the only thing relevant here :rolleyes:


maybe not the only thing relevant, but do i think it is relevant? YES.

i think there is definitely an element of racism to it. yes.

[arista]

maybe not the only thing relevant, but do i think it is relevant? YES.

i think there is definitely an element of racism to it. yes.


No many are White Illegal Russians



This is About one thing Illegal Intruders.

In your Yank Nation
Illegals are also hunted and stopped


Get here with a proper Legal Legit Visa
that is what we want.

[MTVN]

maybe not the only thing relevant, but do i think it is relevant? YES.

i think there is definitely an element of racism to it. yes.

It isn't relevant, if a country is overcrowded then it is overcrowded regardless of the racial makeup. The issue is whether a country can cope with the increased strain on roads, schools, housing etc.

Your country has just as many problems with racism as the UK does (if not more), and having a higher percentage of non-whites doesn't change that

And besides, as Arista has said, it is not the fact that they are Afghani's that is the problem, it's that they are trying to enter the UK illegally, as a lot of Mexicans try to do in the USA

[lostalex]

i didn't say it's wrong to halt illegal immigration. i just said i think there is an element of racism to it.

i don't think it's wrong at all.

[arista]

i didn't say it's wrong to halt illegal immigration. i just said i think there is an element of racism to it.

i don't think it's wrong at all.




Maybe from your far away Eyes.

But here these Illegals are taking Illegal Jobs.
They will be stopped and France needs to sort out there port.

[lostalex]

Maybe from your far away Eyes.


What other eyes do i have? :conf:

i've only got these 2, right here. am i meant to apologize for that?

[arista]

What other eyes do i have? :conf:

i've only got these 2, right here. am i meant to apologize for that?

This thread is not about Racism.


Its about Illegals.

[lostalex]

don't you think it's possible that it's about both?

[lostalex]

I believe the world is a fluid place (after all the world is 70% water). I believe the world belongs to everyone, and people should have freedom to explore it freely despite any political imaginary "borders".

There is one earth, and it belongs to everyone.

That's how i feel.

I agree with the Native Americans. The land belongs to no one, we belong to the land. All of it.

[arista]

don't you think it's possible that it's about both?


Not on My Threads it Ain't.

[MTVN]

I believe the world is a fluid place (after all the world is 70% water). I believe the world belongs to everyone, and people should have freedom to explore it freely despite any political imaginary "borders".

There is one earth, and it belongs to everyone.

That's how i feel.

I agree with the Native Americans. The land belongs to no one, we belong to the land. All of it.

Nice idea in theory. Simply isn't practical in reality though.

[BB_Eye]

I don't think, with the week they've had, now is the right time for France get tougher on immigration.

[arista]

I don't think, with the week they've had, now is the right time for France get tougher on immigration.



But the Mess they are in
is not Our Fault.


Poxy Fremch.

[lostalex]

I think yur being compltely rediculous. Overpopulation? there are plenty of green pastures in england that could easily be bulldozed flat and have some nice big council flats built on them.

Stop being silly and alarmist.

[MTVN]

I think yur being compltely rediculous. Overpopulation? there are plenty of green pastures in england that could easily be bulldozed flat and have some nice big council flats built on them.

Stop being silly and alarmist.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1306213/England-populated-country-EU.html

I know it's the Mail and everything but still, it isnt a ridiculous claim at all.

And no I dont think our rural land should be completely bulldozed over and urbanised. We should be preserving our countryside, not destroying it.

[BB_Eye]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1306213/England-populated-country-EU.html

I know it's the Mail and everything but still, it isnt a ridiculous claim at all.

And no I dont think our rural land should be completely bulldozed over and urbanised. We should be preserving our countryside, not destroying it.
Well I suppose while we're on the subject of dubious sources of information, the UK doesn't even figure into the top 50 countries in the world for population density if this article is anything to go by.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories _by_population_density

[BB_Eye]

But the Mess they are in
is not Our Fault.


Poxy Fremch.
I'm not going to defend them on this. The trouble is the French like to try and shaft the UK when it comes to the EU and immigration. Many economic migrants and refugees travel from France because they failed to obtain a VISA or work permit there, even though France is far more equpped, economically and in terms of area to take on immigration than the UK.

France is a very self-serving, xenophobic country when it comes to its relationship to the EU. (apologies to Remy who is pretty cool for a French person)

[MTVN]

Well I suppose while we're on the subject of dubious sources of information, the UK doesn't even figure into the top 50 countries in the world for population density if this article is anything to go by.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories _by_population_density

Yeah, but the article in the Mail was just referring to England, it's possible that Scotland and Wales could have brought the UK's overall figure down as I believe they a lot less densely populated. Plus, the majority of the countries in that top 50 are non-European while I was just referring to countries in Europe

There's also an article in the Telegraph from a couple of years back saying the same thing as the Mail - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/2967374/England-is-most-crowded-country-in-Europe.html

[Captain.Remy]

I'm not going to defend them on this. The trouble is the French like to try and shaft the UK when it comes to the EU and immigration. Many economic migrants and refugees travel from France because they failed to obtain a VISA or work permit there, even though France is far more equpped, economically and in terms of area to take on immigration than the UK.

France is a very self-serving, xenophobic country when it comes to its relationship to the EU. (apologies to Remy who is pretty cool for a French person)

I wouldn't say xenophobic because we are the country of Human Rights. My dad immigrated from Russia in the 70's, my mum from Italy in the 60's and it all went fine, they're very thankful to the country because it gave them a job and food which they couldn't have in their country.

Now, I think the situation got out of hand and was too rushed. I belong to Sarkozy's party, I do, but I think it all went mad. Now that he's standing against the EU, it's about to take the whole case to another level.

I might be exaggerating but I tend to compare this with South African people back in the old days when they had a divide between Whites and Blacks. That's what France is now down to. It doesn't feel right, but at the time, a few things had to be done to resolve the immigrants issue. But not that way.

[BB_Eye]

I wouldn't say xenophobic because we are the country of Human Rights. My dad immigrated from Russia in the 70's, my mum from Italy in the 60's and it all went fine, they're very thankful to the country because it gave them a job and food which they couldn't have in their country.

Now, I think the situation got out of hand and was too rushed. I belong to Sarkozy's party, I do, but I think it all went mad. Now that he's standing against the EU, it's about to take the whole case to another level.

I might be exaggerating but I tend to compare this with South African people back in the old days when they had a divide between Whites and Blacks. That's what France is now down to. It doesn't feel right, but at the time, a few things had to be done to resolve the immigrants issue. But not that way.
I think the situation could be improved if there was more dialogue on the issue between France and the UK. Maybe more could be done at home, I don't really know, but I think the UK is a victim of circumstances on this one. People here generally vote for more right-wing parties in the local EU elections as Labour and the Lib Dems in particular have a reputation for being inassertive with Europe.

There has been some degree of overreaction lately to the repatriation of travelling communities back to their native country of Romania (for all the anger it has sparked, I don't see it as a form of ethnic cleansing as these people are not legally French citizens and were not born in France). Nevertheless, it indicates France is taking far harsher measures than Britain, when it should really be other way around.

What do you mean by your comparison to the SA apartheid by the way? Is France extremely segregated?

[arista]

FranceNews24 in english (On Sky and Freesat and free to view online)
had a good report on this today
Smugglers ask them for arounds €2,000 to get them into the UK.
One paying has been here before
a Afghani that keeps returning Illegaly.

[Barbie]

I think yur being compltely rediculous. Overpopulation? there are plenty of green pastures in england that could easily be bulldozed flat and have some nice big council flats built on them.

Stop being silly and alarmist.

Destroy our countryside to house illegal immigrants!? ridiculous idea!

the french need to sort out their side and the UK needs to sort it out on our side.

[Zippy]

Of course France are happy to let them come here. Like, duh.

As long as theyre rid. The French are selfish pigs and always do what suits them. Sod everybody else.

[arista]

Of course France are happy to let them come here. Like, duh.

As long as theyre rid. The French are selfish pigs and always do what suits them. Sod everybody else.


At this Time
France under Sakozy is changing fast.


On that France24 report a french charity
worker takes them meals but never says Leave France
later a Afghani tells of the €2,000 price to get them onto
or under a UK Bound Lorry.

[MTVN]

Arista, just out of interest, why do your sentances always run onto the next line? :conf:

[arista]

Arista, just out of interest, why do your sentances always run onto the next line? :conf:
Its the Way I write.

[MTVN]

Its the Way I write.

Fair enough, just never seen someone do it before that's all.

[Zippy]

Its the Way I write.

Or type.

I hope you dont actually write that way. What a waste of paper.

[arista]

Meanwhile
Back On Topic
it appears these same Illegals will keep trying
to get to the UK.

France24 Reports are Top Notch.