I wish Fame Academy would return...

[Jack_]

...and no, not the Celebrity version. The original was better. After reading about it a couple of days ago, it reminded me of just how good it was.

It had 24/7 Live coverage, Highlight shows, the 'students' were encouraged to write their own songs and music, were given musical education [vocal coaching, songwriting lessons, fitness/dance classes, workshops with professionals]. The format was also pretty tense, with there being a 'Bottom Three', the Judges saving one, and the other students saving the other. It was similar to Big Brother in the sense that they were completely cut off from the outside world, and were filmed 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

Here's an extract from the Wikipedia article:

Fame Academy claimed to emphasise the creative talent of the contestants, (called "students" on the show) who were encouraged to write their own songs and music as well as developing their singing technique and performing skills. Inside the Academy for a period of ten weeks, the students were given a complete musical education. This included individual vocal coaching, songwriting lessons, personal development, fitness/dancing classes, and workshops with professionals. The students stayed at Witanhurst, an historic Georgian-style mansion in Highgate that was specially redressed for the series. They were provided with dormitory-style living accommodation, communal meals and recreation areas.

The programme was filmed as a reality TV show in the Big Brother format, with the students being completely cut off from the outside world, and not allowed to leave the "Academy" without supervision. The contestants were televised constantly through a vast network of cameras that were monitored 24 hours a day. Viewers of the streaming programmes were able to watch almost everything going on behind the scenes. Singing lessons, dance classes, rehearsals and costume fittings were all filmed, as well as the daily life of the contestants from waking up to going to sleep. This also included mealtimes, relaxation periods and "private" moments. The social interaction between the students, and the growing tensions as their numbers dwindled, added to the interest of the show week by week and highlights of the live streaming, heavily edited, were also shown as part of the CBBC and BBC Three spin-off programmes and on the weekly showdown.

I loved the show at the time, but never realised just how good it was. I'd love them to bring it back.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fame_Academy

Series 1:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fame_Academy_%28series_1%29

Series 2:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fame_Academy_%28series_2%29

[Jords]

I loved Fame Academy so much.

[Shaun]

It was awesome. Plus they weren't moulded into boring Leonas. (although David Sneddon hardly set the world alight)

[MeMyselfAndI]

It was awesome. Plus they weren't moulded into boring Leonas. (although David Sneddon hardly set the world alight)

who from fame acadmey has beaten leona?
:xyxwave:

[Jack_]

who from fame acadmey has beaten leona?
:xyxwave:

:sleep:

Totally missing the point as usual. Can you comment on the thread please, dear?

[MeMyselfAndI]

i was replying to Shaun not you :bored:
he insulted leona saying shes boring
well i think the killers are so boring and sound the same as every other "band"

[LaLaLand]

I loved Fame Academy, it was so fresh and original to see singer SONGWRITERS in a competition and not just half-arsed "I want to be #1" robots. You could tell all of them were passionate, a great show.

I loved Alex Parks and that crazy Peter who later dated Fearne Cotton, remember him?

& of course LEMAR who's still quite big today and he came 3rd didn't he?

[Shaun]

who from fame acadmey has beaten leona?
:xyxwave:

Well Lemar's had 7 top-10 singles, whereas Leona's had 6.

See, you can manipulate statistics to mean anything you want. But I was talking in a matter of personality, of credibility or interest. You can't really measure that. But if you want me to, I've got plenty more stats like the one above ready to mould :)

Not to mention he's won 2 BRIT awards (Leona none) and 3 MOBOs (Leona 2).

[LaLaLand]

who from fame acadmey has beaten leona?
:xyxwave:

Since then Lemar has had 7 top ten UK singles and sold over 2 million albums. He is seen as one of the most successful artists to come out of a reality T.V show.

Brit Awards:
Winner 2006 - British Urban Act
Winner 2004 - British Urban Act
Nominee 2007 - British Male Solo Artist
Nominee 2006 - British Urban Act
Nominee 2005 - British Male Solo Artist
Nominee 2005 - British Urban Act
Nominee 2004 - Best British Breakthrough Act
Nominee 2004 - Best British Urban Act
Mobo Awards:
Winner 2006 - Best UK Male
Winner 2005 - Best UK Male
Winner 2005 - Best Album - Time to Grow
Nominee 2009 - Best R&B/Soul Act
Nominee 2007 - Best R&B Act
Nominee 2005 - Best Video - If There's Any Justice
Nominee 2005 - Best R&B Act
Nominee 2004 - UK Act of the Year
Nominee 2004 - Best R&B Act

Not bad, eh? ;)

[Jack_]

i was replying to Shaun not you :bored:
he insulted leona saying shes boring
well i think the killers are so boring and sound the same as every other "band"

And? When you compare the two shows, she is boring. On Fame Academy they were encouraged to write their own songs and music, and be more creative. On X Factor they are encouraged to cover songs, sit back, let a songwriter do all of the work, and then just turn up to offer the vocal.

And I remember you saying a few months ago you liked The Killers, so that's a major fail. And who mentioned The Killers? ROFL :joker:

[MeMyselfAndI]

Not bad, eh? ;)

like Omg 2 million albums lmao. wow
9.5 Million Albums > 2 Million Albums! :laugh2:
ummm has a single of his sold 1million?
has he had a number 1 in America - i think not!

[Jack_]

Well Lemar's had 7 top-10 singles, whereas Leona's had 6.

See, you can manipulate statistics to mean anything you want. But I was talking in a matter of personality, of credibility or interest. You can't really measure that. But if you want me to, I've got plenty more stats like the one above ready to mould :)

Not to mention he's won 2 BRIT awards (Leona none) and 3 MOBOs (Leona 2).

Not bad, eh? ;)

Major, major ownage :joker:

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[MeMyselfAndI]

Jonnii

The 3 Most sucessfull acts from reality TV in order from a source are -

1) Girls Aloud
2) Leona Lewis
3) Will Young

:xyxwave:

[LaLaLand]

:shocked:like Omg 2 million albums lmao. wow
9.5 Million Albums > 2 Million Albums! :laugh2:
ummm has a single of his sold 1million?
has he had a number 1 in America - i think not!

Statistics mean nothing, at least he has charisma and passion. Anyone can be Leona, it's just how well the "big guys" want to package you at the end of the day brother.

Also, you seemed to bypass the awards list, probably a wise decision.

[Jords]

MMI you have to stop being so defensive over Leona Lewis, shes done great, we all know that, but people can still have different opinions on her.....

[MeMyselfAndI]

Shaun leonas sold 5x more - so i win
and Leonas been Nominated 6 times for BRITS.
and should of won best song and best newcomer and best female atist and best album tbf

[Jack_]

Cannot believe it has returned, I thought we'd got rid of it for good :(

[MeMyselfAndI]

:shocked:

Statistics mean nothing, at least he has charisma and passion. Anyone can be Leona, it's just how well the "big guys" want to package you at the end of the day brother.

Anyone can be Lemar at the end of the day - he hasn't got the singing talent
not everyone has leonas voice :love:

when Lemar breaks america tell me

[arista]

Jack the BBC
has left all that.

Now ITV, Ch5
and Sky1 have taken over all of it.

The bloated BBC gives you old stuff like S. Come Dancing
they are No longer leading TV in the UK.

[Jack_]

and Leonas been Nominated 6 times for BRITS.


Wait, she's been nominated for a BRIT six times and not won one once? ****INGLOL :joker:

[LaLaLand]

Anyone can be Lemar at the end of the day - he hasn't got the singing talent
not everyone has leonas voice :love:

when Lemar breaks america tell me

She hasn't broke America, America's a big place. People in certain parts don't know who she is still. The Spice Girls were the last UK act to 'break America' and Leona is nowhere near as popular.

The general consensus now is that she's a one trick pony who stays safe with warbling ballads and if I remember correctly her version of 'Run' was voted "Most depressing song" on the internet somewhere.

I'll try locate a source but don't hold hope.

[MeMyselfAndI]

And? When you compare the two shows, she is boring. On Fame Academy they were encouraged to write their own songs and music, and be more creative. On X Factor they are encouraged to cover songs, sit back, let a songwriter do all of the work, and then just turn up to offer the vocal.

And I remember you saying a few months ago you liked The Killers, so that's a major fail. And who mentioned The Killers? ROFL :joker:

yeah but leona comes first :love:

[MeMyselfAndI]

and you don't know leona - you cant say shes boring

On tour she was not boring at all - best tour ever :D

[MeMyselfAndI]

She hasn't broke America, America's a big place. People in certain parts don't know who she is still. The Spice Girls were the last UK act to 'break America' and Leona is nowhere near as popular.

The general consensus now is that she's a one trick pony who stays safe with warbling ballads and if I remember correctly her version of 'Run' was voted "Most depressing song" on the internet somewhere.

I'll try locate a source but don't hold hope.

Umm Leona has had 3 Platinum Singles in the UK last decade
(A Moment Like This, Bleeding Love, Run)

NO OTHER artist did that

therefore she can't be a 1 trick pony :xyxwave:

[Jack_]

Was your comment necessary that I quoted?

Yes. Yes it was. At the end of the day, she/he/it pretended to be a young girl on a Big Brother forum. And also trolled. That. Is. Laughable.

Being 'fat' is no comparison. And infact it was quite a cheap comment.

[LaLaLand]

Umm Leona has had 3 Platinum Singles in the UK last decade
(A Moment Like This, Bleeding Love, Run)

NO OTHER artist did that

therefore she can't be a 1 trick pony :xyxwave:

She can if all the songs sounded the same.

[MeMyselfAndI]

More people know who Leona Lewis is than Lemar

[MeMyselfAndI]

She can if all the songs sounded the same.

Listen to "Outta My Head" then :joker:

[Shaun]

Umm Leona has had 3 Platinum Singles in the UK last decade
(A Moment Like This, Bleeding Love, Run)

NO OTHER artist did that

therefore she can't be a 1 trick pony :xyxwave:

poor choice of words.

[Stacey.]

Yes. Yes it was. At the end of the day, she/he/it pretended to be a young girl on a Big Brother forum. And also trolled. That. Is. Laughable.

Being 'fat' is no comparison. And infact it was quite a cheap comment.

It really wasn't though. Who cares if he pretended to be a girl? That's got nothing to do with this thread or to do with anything infact. That's not really trolling..

And I'd rather be a boy who pretended to be a girl, than fat. I'm sure most people would.

[LaLaLand]

Listen to "Outta My Head" then :joker:

But that wasn't one of the 'Platinum selling singles' now, was it. The majority don't listen to album tracks, just official singles and the singles are usually the best songs on the album.

If she sticks to ballads/depression, she's going to be known as someone who perhaps is uncomfortable to branch out. Until she features on a David Guetta track then the current musical purchasing audience of the UK (12-21 year olds) will go off her realistically.

[MeMyselfAndI]

poor choice of words.

Lol have the killers had 3 Platinum singles in the UK?
no

[Shaun]

head. against. brick. wall.

[MeMyselfAndI]

But that wasn't one of the 'Platinum selling singles' now, was it. The majority don't listen to album tracks, just official singles and the singles are usually the best songs on the album.

If she sticks to ballads/depression, she's going to be known as someone who perhaps is uncomfortable to branch out. Until she features on a David Guetta track then the current musical purchasing audience of the UK (12-21 year olds) will go off her realistically.

Outta My Head is the best on Echo with I Got You

but the company never realised it and they admit it was a mistake
Her fans think Outta My Head is the best on the album so that means it is.
So not all singles are the best songs..

[Jords]

>____<

[Iceman]

Lol have the killers had 3 Platinum singles in the UK?
no

FAIL they had 3 multi platinum albums and sold a hellof a lot more than her.

[Jords]

head. against. brick. wall.

with spikes.

[LaLaLand]

FAIL they had 3 multi platinum albums and sold a hellof a lot more than her.

This!

[MeMyselfAndI]

FAIL they had 3 multi platinum albums and sold a hellof a lot more than her.

i said single

[Iceman]

i said single

nobody cares about singles these days, its about albums.

[Shaun]

I wish that was true Eoin :(

[MeMyselfAndI]

so leonas song are better than the killers and shes been around less :D

[Iceman]

I wish that was true Eoin :(

Oh i didnt check anything I just presumed, Im not that clued in on them lol

[Iceman]

so leonas song are better than the killers and shes been around less :D

yes in your little world where you are never wrong, why dont you just take other peoples opinions on board?

[Jack_]

It really wasn't though. Who cares if he pretended to be a girl? That's got nothing to do with this thread or to do with anything infact. That's not really trolling..

Leona had nothing to do with this thread either, Shaun just made a [correct] comparion between the contestants of two shows. MeMyselfandI, as usual, took the opportunity to turn it into a Leona debate. A totally irrelevant Leona debate. That. Is. Trolling.

Insulting someone because they faked their identity on a forum is fine does not show you up to be completely insecure, as insulting someone's appearance/weight does.

And I'd rather be a boy who pretended to be a girl, than fat. I'm sure most people would.

I'd rather people know I was fat, than know I pretended to be a 13 year old girl on a Big Brother forum. That's just...weird.

Especially if it was my boyfriend, I'd be seriously worried... :joker:

[MeMyselfAndI]

Spirit - "The fastest selling debut album of ALL time"
Leona Lewis - "First UK Women to Achieve a number 1 Album and Single i the USA for 20 years" (it was number 1 for more than 1 week too

[LaLaLand]

Oh my God I'm done with this thread.

The worst type of fan is a 'mark' who can't see the bad in their favourite artists. If you were a true Leona fan then you'd realise defeat on her part.

Hideous.

[Jack_]

I cannot believe a little troll has ruined yet another thread on this forum. All the ****ing time.

[Shaun]

No I meant your "singles aren't as important as albums" thing - I wish that were true, but I think people (well, stupid people ;)) don't have the attention-span for albums any more. Plus the digital thing (and shuffle, in particular) is kind of killing the 'album'.

But that's not to say the Killers are worse. Of course it's a matter of opinion, but I'd go so far as to say that, on the whole, everyone taken into account, people would almost objectively agree the Killers are better. There is no comparison.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Defeat that shes sold 4x more album sales than Lemar and you were arguing Lemar was more sucessfull when he isn't. ?
Also 4x more single sales..
What?

[Iceman]

No I meant your "singles aren't as important as albums" thing - I wish that were true, but I think people (well, stupid people ;)) don't have the attention-span for albums any more. Plus the digital thing (and shuffle, in particular) is kind of killing the 'album'.

But that's not to say the Killers are worse. Of course it's a matter of opinion, but I'd go so far as to say that, on the whole, everyone taken into account, people would almost objectively agree the Killers are better. There is no comparison.

Oh right, I get you now, I find albums as a whole better than the singles, you find songs that cant be released to be better (if that makes sense). I would agree though that they are better as a whole, remind me of schooldays listening to Mr Brightside :D

[MeMyselfAndI]

no Shaun more people buy leona songs than the killers songs so how are they better :conf:

they have been around more than two times longer too - if anything that makes them worse??

[Tom4784]

no Shaun more people buy leona songs than the killers songs so how are they better :conf:

they have been around more than two times longer too - if anything that makes them worse??

Higher sales do not equal quality, anyone can have a hit single look at the Crazy Frog.

Leona Lewis is a voice, nothing more nothing less, The killers actually write their own music, play their own instruments and are generally not a puppet of Simon Cowell's.

[Iceman]

Higher sales do not equal quality, anyone can have a hit single look at the Crazy Frog.

Leona Lewis is a voice, nothing more nothing less, The killers actually write their own music, play their own instruments and are generally not a puppet of Simon Cowell's.

Brave man! :spin:

[MeMyselfAndI]

Higher sales do not equal quality, anyone can have a hit single look at the Crazy Frog.

Leona Lewis is a voice, nothing more nothing less, The killers actually write their own music, play their own instruments and are generally not a puppet of Simon Cowell's.

so Taylor Swift is better than the killers, a she does all of the above by herself - happy?

and anyway leona does write some songs - co wrote 8 and write 1 and can play instruments

[Iceman]

so Taylor Swift is better than the killers, a she does all of the above by herself - happy?

and anyway leona does write some songs - co wrote 8 and write 1 and can play instruments

really, 1 song...... seriously you try and say she's good then post something like that.

[BB_Eye]

These arguments are so funny. :hugesmile:

[Tom4784]

so Taylor Swift is better than the killers, a she does all of the above by herself - happy?

and anyway leona does write some songs - co wrote 8 and write 1 and can play instruments

No because she can only play 3 chords and all her songs sound the same. The difference between Taylor and The Killers is that The Killers are actually talented.

You do know that 99% of the time Co-writing credits mean nothing? they just change a few words so they can have a credit and higher percentage of the money from sales. The extent of her writing contributions were probably among the lines of 'Oooh Let's change that You to U!'.

[MeMyselfAndI]

No because she can only play 3 chords and all her songs sound the same. The difference between Taylor and The Killers is that The Killers are actually talented.

You do know that 99% of the time Co-writing credits mean nothing? they just change a few words so they can have a credit and higher percentage of the money from sales. The extent of her writing contributions were probably among the lines of 'Oooh Let's change that You to U!'.

I think all the Killers songs sound the same..

Taylor Swift ALSO plays the piano aswell as the guitar.

Therefore more musical and she writes all of her songs herself.

[Jack_]

Can we please get this thread back to the topic at hand? :bawling:

[Tom4784]

I think all the Killers songs sound the same..

Taylor Swift ALSO plays the piano aswell as the guitar.

Therefore more musical and she writes all of her songs herself.

The Killers have done 3 different albums that have 3 different styles. All of Taylor's songs are mid tempo guitar songs with same-y lyrics. Saying she can play a guitar at all is stretching it when she's based her career on 3 chords.

Anyone can write a song MM&I.

'My name is Dez
I wear a Fez
I've got a bird by the name of Kes'

That's a verse already, the difference inbetween Taylor and virtually any credible artists is that they do it well.

[Jessica.]

'My name is Dez
I wear a Fez
I've got a bird by the name of Kes'

:elephant::elephant::elephant:

[Vicky.]

Yeah I loved fame acadamy.

I also bought David Sneddons song when it came out :laugh:

-Ducks-

[Tom]

Fame Academy was crap, I liked the celebrity one though. Maybe those wanting 'real music' should be watching that show on Sky

[Jack_]

Fame Academy was crap, I liked the celebrity one though. Maybe those wanting 'real music' should be watching that show on Sky

It's more the 'reality show' element to it that I prefer :p

It's like I've always wanted there to be cameras in the XF house and a 24/7 Live Feed.

[xDramatick]

Probably my all-time favourite reality tv show <3