What's so wrong with being a romantic?

[Princess]

I've been on this forum for 5 years and I've been obsessed with my fair amount of BB couples. And every single time I get called stupid and naive and whatever else. I get belittled for believing a couple off Big Brother can be real. I'm a bit fed up with it to honest,you have your opinions and I have mine,there's no need to treat me like an idiot just cos I'm not cynical about every single Big Brother couple in existence.

But what is wrong with believing in a couple?? Yeah you might not like them but why pick on me?? I've been obsessed before,I know a lot of them they can break up,it doesn't mean I can't like them for the time being. What is it that is so disgusting and horrifying to a lot of you about fans of Big Brother couples???

[GiRTh]

Bless.:pat:

[Twilight]

Nothing, but on big brother its clearly fake most of the time.

[Marsh.]

Paul and Helen. Believable and real.
Grace and Mikey. Not believable to me at all, Grace came across very camera aware but they've proved it was real because they're married now.
All the others were pretty much showmances or just fancying each other a bit. Couples in scripted shows are more real.

Remember Ziggy? Sweetened Chanelle up, ****ed her (without realising Carole was in the next bed, then dumped her.
And then got a lecture about not using condoms lol

[Ninastar]

I like couples on TV aswell. I think they are cute. :')

[GypsyGoth]

I think being romantic is much better than being cynical.

[Princess]

I think being romantic is much better than being cynical.

Exactly! Me too.

[Kerry]

I think people are more cynical about BB than romances. They know that these days people were only in it for the cash

[Twilight]

Sorry, but how the **** can anyone be in love after 2 days of knowing each other? and its obvious that they just want the money.

[Princess]

Sorry, but how the **** can anyone be in love after 2 days of knowing each other? and its obvious that they just want the money.

2 days? More like 73 I think it was. 24/7.

[Marsh.]

Sorry, but how the **** can anyone be in love after 2 days of knowing each other? and its obvious that they just want the money.

I don't know of a couple that were together after two days (?).
But I know lots of housemates have said how they came out of the house knowing a hell of a lot more about the other housemates than many of their friends because of the 24/7 for three months solid.

[Twilight]

2 days? More like 73 I think it was. 24/7.
I'm not talking about JJJ.. i'm talking about most of the other couples.

[Twilight]

I don't know of a couple that were together after two days (?).
But I know lots of housemates have said how they came out of the house knowing a hell of a lot more about the other housemates than many of their friends because of the 24/7 for three months solid.

Ssophie and Kris were about 2 days before they kissed, maybe it was 3 days, i'm not sure though :/

[WOMBAI]

Exactly! Me too.

Personally I think being realistic and using my intelligence is much better than being gullible and being made a fool of! Each to their own I guess!

Blowed if I would allow such people to use me to help line their pockets and give them the attention they so obviously crave!

Real life is so much more interesting and fun - or at least it should be!

[Jords]

Nothing wrong with being romantic, but believing in couples, espicially those that form on a reality TV show is a different story tbh. People act up to the cameras because they know its what the public (some of them anyway..) want to see, so you should take them with a pinch of salt in general. Theres a few I believed were true mind.

[Princess]

Personally I think being realistic and using my intelligence is much better than being gullible and being made a fool of! Each to their own I guess!

Blowed if I would allow such people to use me to help line their pockets and give them the attention they so obviously crave!

Real life is so much more interesting and fun - or at least it should be!

So you're saying that just because I like a couple I'm guillble and an idiot? Right so believing in love makes you stupid,seems a bit silly really doesn't it?

People should be able to spend their money on whatever they want. And you're allowed to like a couple and enjoy 'real life'. Feck sake it doesn't all have to be so extreme.

[Princess]

Ssophie and Kris were about 2 days before they kissed, maybe it was 3 days, i'm not sure though :/

Well I never did see Sophie and Kris but there is a difference between couples like them and Sezer and Imogen and whoever else than couples like Helen and Paul and Grace and Mikey. People have to stop putting every single Big Brother couple into one big caterogy of 'fake'.

[Beastie]

In terms of BB.. nowadays people go in for a romance for the £££££.

I am not cynical about every couple though! Helen and Paul lasted 5 years. Sophie and that black dude from bb3 got together and had a baby together!
Grace and Mikey.. can't believe it but they are married!!!! I believe they are obviously in love with each other. Also they hardly do any interviews together.. they went back to their ordinary careers.

Josie and John James though... it's just that John did treat Josie like crap a bit in the house and I just don't believe that.

Preston and Chantelle.. I don't believe in them. They were genuine first time around but now.. they just want all the magazine deals with £££££. Maybe Chantelle still likes Preston.. but they married and got divorced. They both deserve someone else.

To be honest I really wish Pete from bb7 was in Ultimate BB. I loved him and Nikki as a couple. I thought I saw a nice spark when I saw them together in Ultimate BB when Pete was a part of that task :) They are just friends now though but I find them both adorable with each other and they are both interesting and entertaining characters on their own too!

Sophie and Kris from bb10.. what a joke. That's all I can say :hugesmile:

So.. there is a mixture really. Some genuine.. some obviously in to cash in on the magazine deals.

If BB12 comes back.. I mean yeah.. you know what.. I would LOVE to see a genuine romance blossom.. like Helen and Paul when it was sweet and innocent and not being boring farts under the covers all the time...

Anyway in this day and age. Romance is usually just a quick honeymoon period. After that the romance is DEAD.

Amen :hugesmile:

[InOne]

Mikey and Grace are a good example of people staying together. And yes, we disagree on the couples things Laura but I don't insult you over it or think you're any less intelligent. I try to look at it from the best of both views! Hope you didn't think I've been insulting at all!

[WOMBAI]

So you're saying that just because I like a couple I'm guillble and an idiot? Right so believing in love makes you stupid,seems a bit silly really doesn't it?

People should be able to spend their money on whatever they want. And you're allowed to like a couple and enjoy 'real life'. Feck sake it doesn't all have to be so extreme.

Being able to distinguish between real love - and that 'put together' for a tv show for the obvious rewards - is real and intelligent!

Just believing every couple on a tv show that claims to be 'in love' (when this will obviously help them get airtime) - because you want to believe it - is not so intelligent!

Then to keep harping on about how lovely and wonderful they are - when most other people can see that they are not - is downright annoying! You asked!

[Princess]

Mikey and Grace are a good example of people staying together. And yes, we disagree on the couples things Laura but I don't insult you over it or think you're any less intelligent. I try to look at it from the best of both views! Hope you didn't think I've been insulting at all!

Oh no you're fine,I know you wouldn't insult me :)

[InOne]

Oh no you're fine,I know you wouldn't insult me :)

Gooood :D

Is there a lot more haters on you in recent years or something?

[Princess]

Being able to distinguish between real love - and that 'put together' for a tv show for the obvious rewards - is real and intelligent!

Just believing every couple on a tv show that claims to be 'in love' (when this will obviously help them get airtime) - because you want to believe it - is not so intelligent!

Then to keep harping on about how lovely and wonderful they are - when most other people can see that they are not - is downright annoying! You asked!


So you're that EVERY SINGLE couple who meets on a telly show can't be actually in love? But how do you even know?

I don't think EVERY couple is real,in the last 11 years of BB I say there was about 9ish real couples(off the top of my head). I don't believe it cos I want to believe it,I believe it cos what I see in front of my eyes to me is real. For some couple anyways.

And I'm gonna 'harp on' on about lovely and wonderful I think they are all I fecking want,there's enough hate on this place for them to last a lifetime.

[Princess]

Gooood :D

Is there a lot more haters on you in recent years or something?

I don't know,seems to be but they've always been around.

[MTVN]

Ssophie and Kris were about 2 days before they kissed, maybe it was 3 days, i'm not sure though :/

Kissing someone and declaring your love for someone are two very different things though.

[Twilight]

I don't know,seems to be but they've always been around.

LMAO no one is a "hater" of you, they just don't agree.

[Princess]

In terms of BB.. nowadays people go in for a romance for the £££££.

I am not cynical about every couple though! Helen and Paul lasted 5 years. Sophie and that black dude from bb3 got together and had a baby together!
Grace and Mikey.. can't believe it but they are married!!!! I believe they are obviously in love with each other. Also they hardly do any interviews together.. they went back to their ordinary careers.

Josie and John James though... it's just that John did treat Josie like crap a bit in the house and I just don't believe that.

Preston and Chantelle.. I don't believe in them. They were genuine first time around but now.. they just want all the magazine deals with £££££. Maybe Chantelle still likes Preston.. but they married and got divorced. They both deserve someone else.

To be honest I really wish Pete from bb7 was in Ultimate BB. I loved him and Nikki as a couple. I thought I saw a nice spark when I saw them together in Ultimate BB when Pete was a part of that task :) They are just friends now though but I find them both adorable with each other and they are both interesting and entertaining characters on their own too!

Sophie and Kris from bb10.. what a joke. That's all I can say :hugesmile:

So.. there is a mixture really. Some genuine.. some obviously in to cash in on the magazine deals.

If BB12 comes back.. I mean yeah.. you know what.. I would LOVE to see a genuine romance blossom.. like Helen and Paul when it was sweet and innocent and not being boring farts under the covers all the time...

Anyway in this day and age. Romance is usually just a quick honeymoon period. After that the romance is DEAD.

Amen :hugesmile:

I love how you went through so many! I can't believe you think Pete and Nikki were real(I did too at the time) and John and Josie weren't! John didn't treat Josie like ****,if anything sorry Josie people but it was the other way round. But I'd be here all day going into that.

Do you see what Preston said in OK? He said if him and Chantelle got back together it would have be forever so neither of them got hurt again. That doesn't seem like something anyone would do for a bit of money.

[Princess]

LMAO no one is a "hater" of you, they just don't agree.

I'm not saying anyone is a hater of me,they're a hater of couples. People just keep insulting me for believing in BB couples.

[InOne]

I don't know,seems to be but they've always been around.

I think the main problem is we can't identify the degree of love. We're still only seeing what they give us on the outside. But deep down it's hard to tell. I think we needs to see what happens with JJJ after all the corny mag shoots and stuff. That is the real test.

[Kerry]

Princess, think and feel how you like. It's not upto anyone else. It's what makes you, you. No need to defend that

[Princess]

I think the main problem is we can't identify the degree of love. We're still only seeing what they give us on the outside. But deep down it's hard to tell. I think we needs to see what happens with JJJ after all the corny mag shoots and stuff. That is the real test.

Well I'm going on the hours and hours of live feed I saw. I believe they'll still be together after all the hype goes away but as you said we'll have to see.

[Princess]

Princess, think and feel how you like. It's not upto anyone else. It's what makes you, you. No need to defend that

N'awww thanks Kerry :) I just feel a bit defensive is all.

[Beastie]

I love how you went through so many! I can't believe you think Pete and Nikki were real(I did too at the time) and John and Josie weren't! John didn't treat Josie like ****,if anything sorry Josie people but it was the other way round. But I'd be here all day going into that.

Do you see what Preston said in OK? He said if him and Chantelle got back together it would have be forever so neither of them got hurt again. That doesn't seem like something anyone would do for a bit of money.

It's all talk and no action in a magazine for money though!

I do think Pete and Nikki were real at the time (in the house). They were such an odd couple! Also I liked Luke and Bex. I thought they were real too. They lasted for a year. I thought their personalities went well together. They had a similar sense of humour. The only difference they had was that Bex was a booze drinking party animal and Luke was a geek who would rather watch re runs of a Touch of Frost drinking tea on a Saturday night! :hugesmile:

Oh Josie and John.. I am not a fan of either of them. Or Cameltoe for that matter....

Anyway it is all just difference in opinion Laura! No one dislikes or hates you!

Also the forum would be boring without a bit of difference in opinions! :)

[Kerry]

N'awww thanks Kerry :) I just feel a bit defensive is all.

Don't worry. Easy to if people keep having digs :(

[setanta]

In real life, absolutely nothing, but when it concerns BB you have to take it all with a pinch of salt, seeing as most "couples" don't last particularly long.

[InOne]

Well I'm going on the hours and hours of live feed I saw. I believe they'll still be together after all the hype goes away but as you said we'll have to see.

Yeah, but all I'm saying, is when the mag deals are over and stuff. Practicality will hit them, and they'll have to make a decision. Where they will both live ect. Don't forget John is very close to his family back in OZ and has spent the last few years comforting his mum.

[WOMBAI]

So you're that EVERY SINGLE couple who meets on a telly show can't be actually in love? But how do you even know?

I don't think EVERY couple is real,in the last 11 years of BB I say there was about 9ish real couples(off the top of my head). I don't believe it cos I want to believe it,I believe it cos what I see in front of my eyes to me is real. For some couple anyways.

And I'm gonna 'harp on' on about lovely and wonderful I think they are all I fecking want,there's enough hate on this place for them to last a lifetime.

Fine - just don't expect others not to make comments you don't like - when you make such ludicrous, unfounded remarks about how much in love they are!

At best - Josie is in lust with his looks as well as making a lot of money out of the whole 'couple' thing - and for JJ1 it is about publicity and making a name for himself - it is so obvious - to most anyway! Hardly good role models are they? Certainly not the kind of people I want kids of mine aspiring to!

[Beastie]

In real life, absolutely nothing, but when it concerns BB you have to take it all with a pinch of salt, seeing as most "couples" don't last particularly long.

Grace and Mikey lasting the longest now! Well actually they have lasted 4 years at the moment.. (including marriage) If they are still together next year they would have been together the same length of time as Paul and Helen!

I do hope Grace and Mikey last.. and have babies. I liked Grace in bb7. She was a bitch but made bb7 interesting. She's not stupid either. Mikey was a bit dull in bb7. I think Grace wears the trousers. However they both appear to be decent people outside of BB.

[setanta]

Grace and Mikey lasting the longest now! Well actually they have lasted 4 years at the moment.. (including marriage) If they are still together next year they would have been together the same length of time as Paul and Helen!

I do hope Grace and Mikey last.. and have babies. I liked Grace in bb7. She was a bitch but made bb7 interesting. She's not stupid either. Mikey was a bit dull in bb7. I think Grace wears the trousers. However they both appear to be decent people outside of BB.

That's one out of how many? You know what I mean, right?

[Princess]

It's all talk and no action in a magazine for money though!

I do think Pete and Nikki were real at the time (in the house). They were such an odd couple! Also I liked Luke and Bex. I thought they were real too. They lasted for a year. I thought their personalities went well together. They had a similar sense of humour. The only difference they had was that Bex was a booze drinking party animal and Luke was a geek who would rather watch re runs of a Touch of Frost drinking tea on a Saturday night! :hugesmile:

Oh Josie and John.. I am not a fan of either of them. Or Cameltoe for that matter....

Anyway it is all just difference in opinion Laura! No one dislikes or hates you!

Also the forum would be boring without a bit of difference in opinions! :)

LOL Luke and Bex got more stick than any couple!!

I'm not saying anyone hates me,I don't want to sound like 'Oh poor me' I'm just a bit fed up with being called names for believing something and then being told there is no way in hell I can be right.

Aye it would be indeed.

[Beastie]

That's one out of how many? You know what I mean, right?

1 out of a lot....

Still though it is one couple still together so there is still hope.

In real life though more couples are breaking down. I bet more than 50% get divorced now.

Anyway I do agree that most BB couples are in love or in lust with each other in the "honeymoon period". You will get them feelings because you are living with someone 24 7. You could end up fancying someone or seeing someone in a different light.

Anyway.. good luck to them all!

[Beastie]

LOL Luke and Bex got more stick than any couple!!

I'm not saying anyone hates me,I don't want to sound like 'Oh poor me' I'm just a bit fed up with being called names for believing something and then being told there is no way in hell I can be right.

Aye it would be indeed.

You could be right! We just have to wait and see. I could imagine Josie having John's babies because she is a "randy mare". I havn't bought into the magazines though. I have just read what I have seen on the internet.

If Grace and Mikey came out with an interview (they usually do once every blue moon) then I will read that because it will be something fresh, new and interesting because they hardly do magazine interviews.

[InOne]

Grace and Mikey were the best BB couple ever! Just slunk back into their normal lives and ended up sticking it out together.

[Princess]

In real life, absolutely nothing, but when it concerns BB you have to take it all with a pinch of salt, seeing as most "couples" don't last particularly long.

Well obviously. But some people won't even percieve the idea that it could be real,which annoys me. I don't percieve the idea it's fake I suppose but I do believe some BB 'couples' aren't real. I just think there's clearly a difference between the real and fake couples.


Yeah, but all I'm saying, is when the mag deals are over and stuff. Practicality will hit them, and they'll have to make a decision. Where they will both live ect. Don't forget John is very close to his family back in OZ and has spent the last few years comforting his mum.

Well they're in London till like March I think. John's been asked stuff like where he sees himself in 5 years and he's said Bristol. I know they're going to Oz next month for a bit of a break.

Fine - just don't expect others not to make comments you don't like - when you make such ludicrous, unfounded remarks about how much in love they are!

At best - Josie is in lust with his looks as well as making a lot of money out of the whole 'couple' thing - and for JJ1 it is about publicity and making a name for himself - it is so obvious - to most anyway! Hardly good role models are they? Certainly not the kind of people I want kids of mine aspiring to!

I never said people couldn't say negative things about the couples,it annoys me but nowt I can do about it,it's your opinion. I don't just like all the little digs aimed at the fans.

That's one out of how many? You know what I mean, right?

Helen and Paul were together 5 years,Grace and Mikey 4 so far. A lot of couples were together about a year. And just because only one relationship has survived doesn't mean all the rest are doomed,it's just not the best omen in the world.

Oooh you know something else which annoys me? If a couple stay together about a yearish and they break up and they broke up 'obviously cos they were fake and all that'. If couples break up in real life they don't get their relationship being called fake. No one said anything about it lasting forever.

[Princess]

You could be right! We just have to wait and see. I could imagine Josie having John's babies because she is a "randy mare". I havn't bought into the magazines though. I have just read what I have seen on the internet.

If Grace and Mikey came out with an interview (they usually do once every blue moon) then I will read that because it will be something fresh, new and interesting because they hardly do magazine interviews.

LOL! I'd love if JJJ did what Grace and Mikey did and once all the hype died down just went off to Bristol and had a quiet life. I know people won't believe this but I genuinely don't think they care for the showbiz life that much.

[setanta]

Well obviously. But some people won't even percieve the idea that it could be real,which annoys me. I don't percieve the idea it's fake I suppose but I do believe some BB 'couples' aren't real. I just think there's clearly a difference between the real and fake couples.



Well they're in London till like March I think. John's been asked stuff like where he sees himself in 5 years and he's said Bristol. I know they're going to Oz next month for a bit of a break.



I never said people couldn't say negative things about the couples,it annoys me but nowt I can do about it,it's your opinion. I don't just like all the little digs aimed at the fans.



Helen and Paul were together 5 years,Grace and Mikey 4 so far. A lot of couples were together about a year. And just because only one relationship has survived doesn't mean all the rest are doomed,it's just not the best omen in the world.

Oooh you know something else which annoys me? If a couple stay together about a yearish and they break up and they broke up 'obviously cos they were fake and all that'. If couples break up in real life they don't get their relationship being called fake. No one said anything about it lasting forever.

The mag deals have dried up, that's all. Sorry, I'm a cynic when it comes to all of that stuff.

As for the couple of relationships that have lasted, it's just a drop in the ocean compared to the amount of drivel we've had to endure, with Josie and JJ being the worst ever, in my opinion anyway.

[Mac Hiavellian]

I suppose nowadays because we've come accustomed to many wannabe HMs with magazine deals, hopes for stardom and fake couples it's made us very cynical. Sometimes HMs could fool themselves that its genuine but they later admit "It's because you're in a closed environment and there's no escapign them and that house does things to your head."

In my personal opinion, I believe Helen/Paul, Sophie/Lee, Chantelle/Preston, Grace/Mikey and Luke/Rebecca are the only genuine couples that started on BB, and even then some of them had media exposure after leaving. As much as I think Josie fancies John James, I still don't believe the feelings are mutual atm

[Locke.]

Why do you care?

[Princess]

Why do you care?

It's not that I particually care,it's more a general wonderment,cos I'm a bit baffled by it all.

[Niamh.]

I think it's lovely and refreshing Laura. and I bet you're a more happy and positive person than most:hugesmile:

[James]

Did you know that people coming here to discuss Helen and Paul was basically the reason this forum got off the ground in the first place?

John James and Josie remind me of them. A lot of the negative things that are said about John James now were also said about Paul back then.

[arista]

I've been on this forum for 5 years and I've been obsessed with my fair amount of BB couples. And every single time I get called stupid and naive and whatever else. I get belittled for believing a couple off Big Brother can be real. I'm a bit fed up with it to honest,you have your opinions and I have mine,there's no need to treat me like an idiot just cos I'm not cynical about every single Big Brother couple in existence.

But what is wrong with believing in a couple?? Yeah you might not like them but why pick on me?? I've been obsessed before,I know a lot of them they can break up,it doesn't mean I can't like them for the time being. What is it that is so disgusting and horrifying to a lot of you about fans of Big Brother couples???


I agree No Need to Pick on you.
Nothing wrong with Dreams.

[lime]

Princess I have never insulted you or anyone else here over what they believe.
I know you admit to being obsessed and that's fine but let's be honest here ,do you not see it as double standards?
You often accuse folks who don't believe as JJJ "haters"it's a fecking TV show with people Who for the vast majority of people have never met nor are we likely to.In fact if we were to pass them in the street in a couple of years we prob wouldn't recognise them.Yes there are those ,probably a bit immature,who say they hate JJJ and that is upsetting you,but for a lot of people there is no love or hate involved ,just some interesting people we spend our summer watching and we form our own opinions of them.

You often say you would rather believe than be cynical,you use words like negative ,cold hearted.Basically accusing those who don't believe of being all of these which is pretty annoying TBH.
You believe and good for you I won't judge you for that,how about you stop judging those who don't believe.
Personally I do not see the love or passion whit JJJ ,but I do hope they enjoy their time together

[30stone]

I think it's lovely and refreshing Laura. and I bet you're a more happy and positive person than most:hugesmile:

This.


I find it a bit worrying how much people try to make out that couples arent real, i always feel its someone who's alone that does.

[Twilight]

I always feel its someone who's alone that does.

Not always :/

[setanta]

This.


I find it a bit worrying how much people try to make out that couples arent real, i always feel its someone who's alone that does.

But Benvolio, you're missing the point. It's BB: the majority of what happens in there is all about game playing and deceit, you know?

[Tom]

This.


I find it a bit worrying how much people try to make out that couples arent real, i always feel its someone who's alone that does.

Usually middle aged virgins

People have some weird 'fake until proven real' mentality which can be pathetic sometimes. Sometimes it obviously is fake but other times you can never tell. Not every couple stands the test of time and for some its like a holiday romance type thing. People think that to be a genuine couple you have to be together forever but thats really unlikely for 80% of people and as soon as a likely split happens, then it was fake all along

I think some should just take it at face value, fake or real TV relationships aren't affecting anyone so just leave them to it

[Iceman]

Nothing wrong with being a romantic, just dont get too involved with people on TV's lives because I'll let you in on a secret it's about the money and fame. Also people would do good to not think their life would end up as a happy fairytale because you're never gonna get that.

[WOMBAI]

This.


I find it a bit worrying how much people try to make out that couples arent real, i always feel its someone who's alone that does.

I would say that those that obsess about the relationships of those they don't even know - are the ones who are alone - those who have their own romance - don't need to focus on the relationships of others.

And we aren't talking couples per se - just so-called couples from reality shows - who have no motive whatsoever to fake a romance - don't know where any of us could have got such an idea from :rolleyes:!

[Niamh.]

Nothing wrong with being a romantic, just dont get too involved with people on TV's lives because I'll let you in on a secret it's about the money and fame. Also people would do good to not think their life would end up as a happy fairytale because you're never gonna get that.

Speak for yourself sunshine!:nono:

[MTVN]

I dont see a problem with, it's better than the people who feel obliged to tirelessly analyse the tiniest action to try and prove that a romance is fake. Some people just refuse to accept that people could love each other on BB, although it seems plauisble to me. If you're in a confined space with someone for 2 months 24/7 then it's not surprsing that very close relationships develop.

[Shaun]

Well it makes you unrealistic for a start. I mean sure, the cynics know no more than you do, but with the history of flings, or faked relationships: Ziggy/Chanelle, Jennifer/Dale, Sezer/Imogen, Sophie/Kris, Noirin/everyone - and take into the account the rather obvious one-sided nature of this one (John James doesn't appear even nearly as enthusiastic about Josie as she does about him) - you can understand their point.

And even so - what's the problem anyway? It says more about you to get defensive over two 'celebrities' you've never met, to be honest. To get that emotionally invested is worrying.

[Vicky.]

I was always taught to believe what I see with my own eyes. I will use the most recent 'relationship' as an example.

What I saw was Josie lusting after JJ, and JJ treating her more like a sister/mother figure. Whilst leading her on. Saying in the diary room time and time again that he did not fancy her. And then suddenly becoming more keen after she got the pass to the final ;)

Then they leave the house and all of a sudden its all 'I'm in love with Josie'

And people believe it?

Nah. BB housemates know that relationships sell/keep them in the house longer. Thats all. Sure there were bound to be a couple of 'real' romances with the sheer amount of people that have been thrown together over the years, but the majority is for cameras and $$$.

[Niamh.]

I was always taught to believe what I see with my own eyes. I will use the most recent 'relationship' as an example.

What I saw was Josie lusting after JJ, and JJ treating her more like a sister/mother figure. Whilst leading her on. Saying in the diary room time and time again that he did not fancy her. And then suddenly becoming more keen after she got the pass to the final ;)

Then they leave the house and all of a sudden its all 'I'm in love with Josie'

And people believe it?

Nah. BB housemates know that relationships sell/keep them in the house longer. Thats all. Sure there were bound to be a couple of 'real' romances with the sheer amount of people that have been thrown together over the years, but the majority is for cameras and $$$.

yes but what you see with your eyes and what someone else sees with their eyes can, alot of the time, be very different. Personally, I felt that John James is a private kind of a guy when it comes to relationships and didn't feel comfortable being romantic with people in front of cameras and knowing that his mother was watching. That's what I saw because that's how I'd be if I were in there.

[Iceman]

Well it makes you unrealistic for a start. I mean sure, the cynics know no more than you do, but with the history of flings, or faked relationships: Ziggy/Chanelle, Jennifer/Dale, Sezer/Imogen, Sophie/Kris, Noirin/everyone - and take into the account the rather obvious one-sided nature of this one (John James doesn't appear even nearly as enthusiastic about Josie as she does about him) - you can understand their point.

And even so - what's the problem anyway? It says more about you to get defensive over two 'celebrities' you've never met, to be honest. To get that emotionally invested is worrying.

:hugesmile:

[Vicky.]

yes but what you see with your eyes and what someone else sees with their eyes can, alot of the time, be very different. Personally, I felt that John James is a private kind of a guy when it comes to relationships and didn't feel comfortable being romantic with people in front of cameras and knowing that his mother was watching. That's what I saw because that's how I'd be if I were in there.

Hmm..so private that its suddenly ok when he comes out of the house to let the world know about his relationship via magazines? :)

[Niamh.]

Hmm..so private that its suddenly ok when he comes out of the house to let the world know about his relationship via magazines? :)

Talking about your relationship and letting someone actually watch it are different imo, especially at the very start when you're not entirely comfortable or sure yourself.

[Vicky.]

Talking about your relationship and letting someone actually watch it are different imo, especially at the very start when you're not entirely comfortable or sure yourself.

However, it is impossible to act 24/7 for 73 days or however long the series was. If there was genuine attraction...I find it very hard to believe that he could hide it for that long. He looked sickened when she even touched him :laugh:

Headlock peck and neck snuggle ftw :D

[Niamh.]

However, it is impossible to act 24/7 for 73 days or however long the series was. If there was genuine attraction...I find it very hard to believe that he could hide it for that long. He looked sickened when she even touched him :laugh:

Headlock peck and neck snuggle ftw :D

I'm not saying he was acting, I'm saying he was choosing to not do anything in front of the cameras! I just think it would be very unusual for a guy to get that attached to a girl and it was quite obvious that he adored her to me, If he didn't have feelings for her. I never saw him look sickened either!:tongue:

[Vicky.]

Different strokes for different folks then I guess.

And its actually not unusual for guys to get attached to girls they spend a lot of time with. Not all blokes think with their dangly bits :D

[Niamh.]

Different strokes for different folks then I guess.

And its actually not unusual for guys to get attached to girls they spend a lot of time with. Not all blokes think with their dangly bits :D

They don't...........................???????:joker:

[Vicky.]

They don't...........................???????:joker:

Hard to believe I know :eek:

And Ben...as for your ridiculous comment about it being only people who are alone who think stuff is fake(which I missed the first time of reading this thread)...load of rubbish. If anything, the people who desperately believe any romance that is thrust down our throats are more likely to be alone I would imagine.

[Niamh.]

Hard to believe I know :eek:

And Ben...as for your ridiculous comment about it being only people who are alone who think stuff is fake(which I missed the first time of reading this thread)...load of rubbish. If anything, the people who desperately believe any romance that is thrust down our throats are more likely to be alone I would imagine.

well, I don't think it is one or the other tbh!

[Snaked Worm]

Nothing wrong with being a romantic its nice while you think like that but you will soon grow out of it lifes not the fluffy little world you think it is when your young.

and no iceman im not single and alone its just fact.

[BB_Eye]

I've been on this forum for 5 years and I've been obsessed with my fair amount of BB couples. And every single time I get called stupid and naive and whatever else. I get belittled for believing a couple off Big Brother can be real. I'm a bit fed up with it to honest,you have your opinions and I have mine,there's no need to treat me like an idiot just cos I'm not cynical about every single Big Brother couple in existence.

But what is wrong with believing in a couple?? Yeah you might not like them but why pick on me?? I've been obsessed before,I know a lot of them they can break up,it doesn't mean I can't like them for the time being. What is it that is so disgusting and horrifying to a lot of you about fans of Big Brother couples???
There's nothing wrong with it. You're an optimist. It's nothing to be ashamed about.

[Jords]

Different strokes for different folks then I guess.

And its actually not unusual for guys to get attached to girls they spend a lot of time with. Not all blokes think with their dangly bits :D

Ear lobes? :conf:

[Captain.Remy]

I always have a hard time being romantic and attached to a girl once I'm in a relationship with her. I'm very self-conscious, anxious (that's typically French) and a bit scared that she's going to screw me somehow but once I'm comfortable, I can freely say that I like cuddles, I like being cheesy somehow (not much yo!) and spending 2 hours on the phone or just looking at her.

But if you screw me up, baby, I'll be worse than your painful periods believe me.

[Beastie]

I always have a hard time being romantic and attached to a girl once I'm in a relationship with her. I'm very self-conscious, anxious (that's typically French) and a bit scared that she's going to screw me somehow but once I'm comfortable, I can freely say that I like cuddles, I like being cheesy somehow (not much yo!) and spending 2 hours on the phone or just looking at her.

But if you screw me up, baby, I'll be worse than your painful periods believe me.

Captain Remy :dance:

Aww I miss your black woman avatar Remy. Like that one that said "catchy like aids".

When I first joined the forum you and Stu were a bit like a funny powerful DUO on the forum!!

:D

Stuuuuuuuuuuuuu where are youuuuuuuu?

[Beastie]

Did you know that people coming here to discuss Helen and Paul was basically the reason this forum got off the ground in the first place?

John James and Josie remind me of them. A lot of the negative things that are said about John James now were also said about Paul back then.

I love it when James creeps out of the woodwork and posts a comment. Hey! :xyxwave:

[30stone]

They don't...........................???????:joker:


Ahem..
:)


Hard to believe I know :eek:

And Ben...as for your ridiculous comment about it being only people who are alone who think stuff is fake(which I missed the first time of reading this thread)...load of rubbish. If anything, the people who desperately believe any romance that is thrust down our throats are more likely to be alone I would imagine.


Well on the basis of tibb, the majority that called the relationship fake didnt have a partner, saying that the majority of tibb doesnt. lol.
So maybe not the best to go on, but hey i think more people without a partner are more likely to call fake.

[Niamh.]

Ahem..
:)





Well on the basis of tibb, the majority that called the relationship fake didnt have a partner, saying that the majority of tibb doesnt. lol.
So maybe not the best to go on, but hey i think more people without a partner are more likely to call fake.

:laugh:

[30stone]

Some of us have morals and are loving and caring for our ladies :)..

[Niamh.]

Some of us have morals and are loving and caring for our ladies :)..

awwwwwwww, you're such a sweetie:hugesmile:

[30stone]

I try my best :)
My girl deserves the best.

[setanta]

I try my best :)
My girl deserves the best.

Where's the fecking sick bucket? :hugesmile: Kidding!!

[30stone]

People apprechiate the extra effort :)

Being positive is great, i feel like one of those weirdo's though.
You know those sessions you go to like on "yes man" the movie.. where they tech you to just be more positive..

[Niamh.]

People apprechiate the extra effort :)

Being positive is great, i feel like one of those weirdo's though.
You know those sessions you go to like on "yes man" the movie.. where they tech you to just be more positive..

yes they do Ben, you've got the right attitude, hope your g/f appreciates you!

[30stone]

Thanks :) and yes she does. she dos the same back.

Im sure your husband is one of the goodens, with a lady like you :) lol.

[Niamh.]

Thanks :) and yes she does. she dos the same back.

Im sure your husband is one of the goodens, with a lady like you :) lol.

aw, yeah he is, most definitely (don't tell simonsays though!) Laura would be proud, her threads gone all mushy:tongue:

[Princess]

I'll be here forever going through all the posts but thanks for those who said nice things :) And for those who gave me a little insight.

Oh and JJJ have gone off on holiday on their lonesome today,cute.

[Princess]

aw, yeah he is, most definitely (don't tell simonsays though!) Laura would be proud, her threads gone all mushy:tongue:

I am :hugesmile: I love mush I do!!

[Niamh.]

I am :hugesmile: I love mush I do!!

haha, that was almost a Helen quote:laugh:

[Enid]

Captain Remy :dance:

Aww I miss your black woman avatar Remy. Like that one that said "catchy like aids".

When I first joined the forum you and Stu were a bit like a funny powerful DUO on the forum!!

:D

Stuuuuuuuuuuuuu where are youuuuuuuu?
**** and stop kissing arse.

[sooty]

Captain Remy :dance:

Aww I miss your black woman avatar Remy. Like that one that said "catchy like aids".

When I first joined the forum you and Stu were a bit like a funny powerful DUO on the forum!!

:D

Stuuuuuuuuuuuuu where are youuuuuuuu?

Yes, I felt the same when I joined.

[smudgie]

Absolutely nothing wrong with being a romantic.
I did not see JJJ as the prefectly "in love couple", but we are all different.
I have never had any sort of relationship with a fella that could keep his hands off me so to speak. That is why I found JJ to be a bit lukewarm to say the least.:hugesmile:
It is very reasonable to believe that couples can fall for each other in the BB house, just think of all those holiday romances that happen in real life.

As to talk of romance fading in a relationship, my hubby is as romantic as ever after 33 years together, and he can not be the only one.:hugesmile:

[InOne]

This turned into an interesting thread! A good read. I think the reason I'm so cynical is because of the state of society today. Kids of 16 claiming they're in love when really is mostly lust. I probably sound paronising but it's a fact they are naive to the world. The word 'love' is thrown around too easy these days. Especially on BB, I don't think it even has much meaning.

[Princess]

Yeah but if someone says they're in love,we really don't have right to say they're not. I've been called naive A LOT but I've never liked all the couples,just the ones I think are real. Maybe I'm just optimistic about love,I don't know.

[Mystic Mock]

i believe most bb romances are fake as when they fall in love on the first night,yes dale and jennifer im looking at you and then when these bb couples come out of the house and make there money out of magazine deals they mysteriously break up.

i honestly still dont get how people still fall for the blatent fake ones.

[InOne]

Yeah but if someone says they're in love,we really don't have right to say they're not. I've been called naive A LOT but I've never liked all the couples,just the ones I think are real. Maybe I'm just optimistic about love,I don't know.

I wasn't saying you're naive just some people. Yes we don't have a 'right' to question but it's only natural. It's just annoying when people use the word love as an excuse to stay together when there is clearly no love in the relationship if you get me. Humans are very good at picking up on body language, and other little tells.

[Kazanne]

I've been on this forum for 5 years and I've been obsessed with my fair amount of BB couples. And every single time I get called stupid and naive and whatever else. I get belittled for believing a couple off Big Brother can be real. I'm a bit fed up with it to honest,you have your opinions and I have mine,there's no need to treat me like an idiot just cos I'm not cynical about every single Big Brother couple in existence.

But what is wrong with believing in a couple?? Yeah you might not like them but why pick on me?? I've been obsessed before,I know a lot of them they can break up,it doesn't mean I can't like them for the time being. What is it that is so disgusting and horrifying to a lot of you about fans of Big Brother couples???

Nothing wrong with being romantic at all,but it gets a bit iffy when you have all the evidence there in front of you and still believe it's for real,not many of them are but the last couple were clearly never a loving couple.but you are entitalled to your opinion,just most people will not agree,there was only a handfull on this forum that believed Josie and Crabby were for real,I do think Josie loved him(or thought she did),but him,sorry,no

[Princess]

Well I have bucket loads of 'evidence' that it's real so whatever to that.

[Mystic Mock]

look it is a bit naive to believe in some of the most fakest romances ever.

ive only believed in jjj in the last 4 to 5 series.

[King Gizzard]

I have believed in most of the couples over the years, especially Prestelle, but the one that I really don't believe in is JJJ

just so you know lol

[Princess]

look it is a bit naive to believe in some of the most fakest romances ever.

ive only believed in jjj in the last 4 to 5 series.

Well yeah it is. But there's difference between believing in all of them and just the real ones. People need to realise that not every single couple off BB is fake.

[Vicky.]

I dont think anyone thinks that every single couple off BB is fake.

Only the ones that blatantly are for $$$ :p

[InOne]

Sorta thought this was about romance in general, but I guess just BB couples.

[MissKittyFantastico]

I'm a romantic, just a realistic one, if that makes sense.

[Beastie]

**** and stop kissing arse.

I wasn't.. I was just posting the obvious.