View Full Version : Cher Lloyd cher is ****e.
Mystic Mock
02-10-2010, 08:06 PM
she was doing weird rap/singing:conf: i dont get how anybody on here can say shes good when she is probably the weakest vocalist out of the girls.
and i feel sorry for louis walsh
Jordan.
02-10-2010, 08:07 PM
No.
Zippy
02-10-2010, 08:09 PM
Its not just about vocal technique. Its about artistry and individuality. Cher could make a very interesting pop star given the chance.
And she will be through. Her performances will be different to the norm. Which is good for the show.
Smithy
02-10-2010, 08:10 PM
Yep, she's pretty shocking
Stacey.
02-10-2010, 08:12 PM
Nope, she's great.
We heard what she can sing like in her audition and at bootcamp.
It wasn't her fault that she couldn't sing tonight.
Zippy
02-10-2010, 08:14 PM
The judges are gonna base their decisions on ALL the evidence not just the 2 mins they performed in front of them. Cher was great in front of an audience and thats what its all about ultimately. So there!
Mystic Mock
02-10-2010, 08:14 PM
Its not just about vocal technique. Its about artistry and individuality. Cher could make a very interesting pop star given the chance.
And she will be through. Her performances will be different to the norm. Which is good for the show.
she didnt sound anything like a pop star to me.
Nope, she's great.
We heard what she can sing like in her audition and at bootcamp.
It wasn't her fault that she couldn't sing tonight.
But I don't think she can sing at all well. People liked her initially because she gave a very different audition. I liked her for that reason. Her performance techniques (e.g. her gurning) are shocking, her voice is dire and if she can't sing any song she likes in front of a pianist, two judges and a camera crew - she won't cope with singing specific songs in front of an audience of the watching nation, four judges and a camera crew!
Zippy
02-10-2010, 08:17 PM
...if she can't sing any song she likes in front of a pianist, two judges and a camera crew - she won't cope with singing specific songs in front of an audience of the watching nation, four judges and a camera crew!
well she already did.
And performing for a few can be much harder than for a large audience. Some performers need an audience to feed off.
well she already did.
And performing for a few can be much harder than for a large audience. Some performers need an audience to feed off.
No, she didn't. The pressure of the live shows is far greater than that of the audition stages. She's gotten worse and has fast been exposed as a one trick pony in my opinion; it's an absolute travesty if she goes through.
Stacey.
02-10-2010, 08:20 PM
But I don't think she can sing at all well. People liked her initially because she gave a very different audition. I liked her for that reason. Her performance techniques (e.g. her gurning) are shocking, her voice is dire and if she can't sing any song she likes in front of a pianist, two judges and a camera crew - she won't cope with singing specific songs in front of an audience of the watching nation, four judges and a camera crew!
Yeah I like her uniqueness, and I think she'll be able to sing any song, but just make it different in her own way. She'll probably be a bit like Diana, with the love and hate thing.
Mystic Mock
02-10-2010, 08:22 PM
i think rap fans will like cher.
GiRTh
02-10-2010, 08:23 PM
But I don't think she can sing at all well. People liked her initially because she gave a very different audition. I liked her for that reason. Her performance techniques (e.g. her gurning) are shocking, her voice is dire and if she can't sing any song she likes in front of a pianist, two judges and a camera crew - she won't cope with singing specific songs in front of an audience of the watching nation, four judges and a camera crew!
This.
She'll go thru and there will be a lot of sympathy for the girls turned down who gave a better performance at the judges house. Cher is too limited in her range and technique which Zippy hampers her individuality. Without the technique to back up the talent Cher simply does not have what it takes. Having said that I agree with Zippy in that Cher will give interesting performance that split the public opinion. She's already the most talked about contestant.
Zippy
02-10-2010, 08:23 PM
She will be through and she will come up with some of the more unique performances in the show. When her voice is better and she has time to rehearse her songs she will be kickass. No doubt.
Gamu can p!ss off.
GiRTh
02-10-2010, 08:23 PM
i think rap fans will like cher.No they wont cuz she cant rap.
joeysteele
02-10-2010, 08:24 PM
At the auditions she was really good, but you ahve to take the chances when given them.
She had throat problems but even allowing for that her nerves destroyed her,at the auditions you get to sing songs you know and problably enjoy singing, but the 'live' shows are like the judges houses, the acts have to sing songs given to them that they may not like or enjoy singing.
On the evidence of her performance for Cheryl, I think the same thing will happen at the 'live' shows, it would be unwise to risk her and add to her embarrassment by putting her through this year.
She should maybe come back next year.
I also feel really sorry for Louis,he has a mammoth task getting any chance of reaching past the first 5 weeks with what he's got.
BB_Eye
02-10-2010, 08:25 PM
I like her, but I think she might be a bit too young for it this year.
joeysteele
02-10-2010, 08:26 PM
zippy, has a point there though, some acts do need an audience to feed their confidence, that's true.
Zippy
02-10-2010, 08:26 PM
she didnt sound anything like a pop star to me.
Cher sounds very much like a contempoary pop star, actually.
Very Lily allen/Eliza doolittle etc
Stacey.
02-10-2010, 08:27 PM
i think rap fans will like cher.
I don't like rap.
Zippy
02-10-2010, 08:29 PM
I don't like rap.
Yo
Mystic Mock
02-10-2010, 08:30 PM
No they wont cuz she cant rap.
well thats what she kind of did tonight.
Niamh.
02-10-2010, 09:05 PM
She was brutal tonight, never liked her anyway but it will be a travesty If Cheryl puts her through.
She's absolutely, ridiculously, utterly crap!!
I STILL cannot believe we are watching her at this stage of the competition!
GiRTh
02-10-2010, 09:28 PM
She's absolutely, ridiculously, utterly crap!!
I STILL cannot believe we are watching her at this stage of the competition!Agreed. If she goes thru then it proves the judges house stage is irrelevant and it proves Simon pick the final three and not Cheryl.
Agreed. If she goes thru then it proves the judges house stage is irrelevant and it proves Simon pick the final three and not Cheryl.
Surely she won't go through?! Do you think she will? Every single person in her group is better!
I'm quite perturbed about this! :laugh:
GiRTh
02-10-2010, 09:33 PM
Surely she won't go through?! Do you think she will? Every single person in her group is better!
I'm quite perturbed about this! :laugh:Every spoiler has her going thru. They're hardly ever wrong.:spin:
Every spoiler has her going thru. They're hardly ever wrong.
Shoosh! I've been avoiding spoilers....
But aaaaarrrgghh! You're joking!
That's ridiculous if she does!
Joelle.
02-10-2010, 11:34 PM
I cant believe how many people are jumping on the Cher bandwagon!
Yes she had a good first audition but her performance at bootcamp was very average and at judges houses she was utter ****e! So she is actually getting worse each time she performs!
Yes she is different, but individuality alone does not make someone a good singer. They need the vocals to match, and Cher is simply not up to scratch!
People seriously need to open their eyes and see that there are much much much better singers in that catagory who perform CONSISTANTLY WELL such as rebecca, keri and treyc!
Oh yeah, she's different alright!.. the others can sing, she can't! :D
GiRTh
02-10-2010, 11:37 PM
Oh yeah, she's different alright!.. the others can sing, she can't! :DLOL Cant wait till tomorrow. If Cher goes thru there's gonna be a bit of a backlash.
Joelle.
02-10-2010, 11:39 PM
Oh yeah, she's different alright!.. the others can sing, she can't! :D
The problem is that rapping and hip hop is favoured these days over actual singing because most people have lost all sense of musical taste. :blush:
bbfan1991
02-10-2010, 11:39 PM
LOL Cant wait till tomorrow. If Cher goes thru there's gonna be a bit of a backlash.
Let them!:D, last year was all about Danyl and Jedward anyway plus Cher will probably have the Diana Vickers effect.. Diana is doing well, despite the detractors wishing her to fail so is having the last laugh:).
GiRTh
02-10-2010, 11:45 PM
Let them!:D, last year was all about Danyl and Jedward anyway plus Cher will probably have the Diana Vickers effect.. Diana is doing well, despite the detractors wishing her to fail so is having the last laugh:).Diana is different. She is good singer. I wasnt a fan but gave her credit for at least having some vocal chops.
Cher She seems like the kind of singer who can sing hooks, and does have a kind of hip hop style, but definitely not a LEAD vocalist.
LOL Cant wait till tomorrow. If Cher goes thru there's gonna be a bit of a backlash.
Hahah.. I know!
SHe won't though! Will she? Nah, seriously, they mustn't put her through!!
The problem is that rapping and hip hop is favoured these days over actual singing because most people have lost all sense of musical taste. :blush:
But she can't even rap! and she certainly isn't hip hop!! She's just crap! :nono:
GiRTh
02-10-2010, 11:54 PM
Hahah.. I know!
SHe won't though! Will she? Nah, seriously, they mustn't put her through!!I can see it. I dont quite believe it but I wouldnt be surprised if she went thru. IF she does go thru it will the biggest injustice of the whole show and I hope people feel sorry for the other girls who put in good performance but were not the judges faves.
Stacey.
02-10-2010, 11:55 PM
There will also be backlash if she doesn't make it through :nono:
I can see it. I dont quite believe it but I wouldnt be surprised if she went thru. IF she does go thru it will the biggest injustice of the whole show and I hope people feel sorry for the other girls who put in good performance but were not the judges faves.
Yeah, I agree with you.. :mad:
GiRTh
02-10-2010, 11:55 PM
But she can't even rap! and she certainly isn't hip hop!! She's just crap! :nono:True. She isnt either a good vocalist or a decent rapper - and in this day and age you only need to be decent.
Joelle.
02-10-2010, 11:57 PM
But she can't even rap! and she certainly isn't hip hop!! She's just crap! :nono:
Agreed. the sort of stuff that charts highly these days is the worst kind of crap eg. tinchy stryder. Cher falls firmly into this category and that is unfortunately why she is popular. :hugesmile:
bbfan1991
03-10-2010, 12:00 AM
I like Cher doing Rap etc, she could have stuck to the now tiresome cheesy pop route that XF normally want their acts to go down.. but has chosen not to and stuck to what she feels she is comfortable doing and not what others want her to do and I think good on her:p.
Agreed. the sort of stuff that charts highly these days is the worst kind of crap eg. tinchy stryder. Cher falls firmly into this category and that is unfortunately why she is popular. :hugesmile:
As much as I am not a fan of that kind of chart music, I can see that she isn't even up to that sort of level.. To me she's just a kid who's playing at being a "cool" artist. SHe's crap! Fact!
Mystic Mock
03-10-2010, 12:17 AM
I like Cher doing Rap etc, she could have stuck to the now tiresome cheesy pop route that XF normally want their acts to go down.. but has chosen not to and stuck to what she feels she is comfortable doing and not what others want her to do and I think good on her:p.
because shes different dosent make her good.
GiRTh
03-10-2010, 12:18 AM
As much as I am not a fan of that kind of chart music, I can see that she isn't even up to that sort of level.. To me she's just a kid who's playing at being a "cool" artist. SHe's crap! Fact!
Do you watch American Idol? There was a bloke in season 7 called Blake Lewis (I think) and he was much the same but he COULD rap and had vocal ability. HE made the final but lost to Jordin Sparks. Maybe they think Cher is as close as we're gonna get to him.
Stacey.
03-10-2010, 12:20 AM
because shes different dosent make her good.
Not always.. it just depends on what you like.
Stacey.
03-10-2010, 12:21 AM
Do you watch American Idol? There was a bloke in season 7 called Blake Lewis (I think) and he was much the same but he COULD rap and had vocal ability. HE made the final but lost to Jordin Sparks. Maybe they think Cher is as close as we're gonna get to him.
Omg I loved Blake. Well wanted him to win from the beginning and everything! Jordin was good too though, and since AI she's become better I swear.
GiRTh
03-10-2010, 12:22 AM
Omg I loved Blake. Well wanted him to win from the beginning and everything! Jordin was good too though, and since AI she's become better I swear.She has. They make real stars on AI. Not the MOR sh*te in X Factor.
Stacey.
03-10-2010, 12:25 AM
She has. They make real stars on AI. Not the MOR sh*te in X Factor.
Leona Lewis has done well from TXF. And she's got even better I think, or maybe it's just the choice of songs I don't know.
Do you watch American Idol? There was a bloke in season 7 called Blake Lewis (I think) and he was much the same but he COULD rap and had vocal ability. HE made the final but lost to Jordin Sparks. Maybe they think Cher is as close as we're gonna get to him.
No, I've never watched American Idol.. I kinda know the name Blake though
Stacey.
03-10-2010, 12:29 AM
No, I've never watched American Idol.. I kinda know the name Blake though
He's hot. This is him:
http://static.thehollywoodgossip.com/images/gallery/a-blake-lewis-photo.jpg
Ahh.. I do know his face
(mind you.. have you been posting him in the Hot Guy Thread??) that could explain it! :laugh:
Stacey.
03-10-2010, 12:40 AM
lmao yeah think I have. :blush:
bbfan1991
03-10-2010, 12:41 AM
Leona Lewis has done well from TXF. And she's got even better I think, or maybe it's just the choice of songs I don't know.
Alexandra Burke is way better than Leona IMO:).
Stacey.
03-10-2010, 12:44 AM
Alexandra Burke is way better than Leona IMO:).
Alex does have a good voice, still I prefer Leona's. She's got like a better vocal range if that's what you call it. And I like her personality much more. Can't stand Alex in that way, she's too up herself.
GiRTh
03-10-2010, 12:45 AM
He's hot. This is him:
http://static.thehollywoodgossip.com/images/gallery/a-blake-lewis-photo.jpg
Thats him. HE was good. HE took a bit of getting used to but he was clearly talented. I wonder what he's done post AI.
bbfan1991
03-10-2010, 12:59 AM
Alex does have a good voice, still I prefer Leona's. She's got like a better vocal range if that's what you call it. And I like her personality much more. Can't stand Alex in that way, she's too up herself.
Leona has a better voice but personality wise Alex wins:p.
joeysteele
03-10-2010, 08:56 AM
I've watched the X factor again this morning and while Cher dod good at the auditions, ruling out and making allowances for her throat problem, she did really badly at Cheryl's house, she didn't perform at all, not even after 2 attempts and then didn't try again.
No professional judge or mentor would take a risk on that happening at the 'live' shows, I think the throat problem was maybe overrated trying to get a bye through to the finals but really, the pressures of the time at Judges houses has I fear been too much for Cher and she simply is not up to the pressures of a show like this ,yet.
At the auditions, its a one off start, you can really go for it, after that largely you are in a big group of largely supportive other acts and hopefuls. Once at the Judges house the pressure begins.
I think Cheryl will oput her thorugh which is massively unfair to all the others who sang their hearts out but in the 'live' shows if she does this again she will be hammered by Louis and Simon and someone ready for it will have nissed out.
I liked the uniqueness of her first audition but since then she's been pretty poor. I really didnt like her version of Viva la Vida and her stupid "rap" lyrics that she wrote herself at the beggining. I've only just had a chance to see her peformance last night and she really doesnt deserve to get through imo. She probably has one of the worst voices out of the six of them and she isn't even that great a performer with the wierd facial expressions and dancing. She'll probably get through though, that was pretty much guranteed after her first audition no matter how badly she messed up since.
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
03-10-2010, 12:52 PM
I initially loved her but the more I listen to that first audition and her voice i'm not impressed.Her voice is too girly and whiny. I think the huge impact she made just came from the fact that she sang something different. She's not that great really. If she makes it people will get tired of her trying out her raping skills on the show instead of just getting on with it.
Patrick
03-10-2010, 01:09 PM
Yep, she's pretty sexy.
Well said.
Zippy
03-10-2010, 01:51 PM
Do you watch American Idol? There was a bloke in season 7 called Blake Lewis (I think) and he was much the same but he COULD rap and had vocal ability. HE made the final but lost to Jordin Sparks. Maybe they think Cher is as close as we're gonna get to him.
I doubt they even gave him a moments thought! He's nothing like Cher FGS. And why would they wanna emulate a forgettable AI flop from years ago? Makes no sense.
That Blake guy didnt have any quirkeness or fashion thing going on either that I remember.
GiRTh
03-10-2010, 02:11 PM
I doubt they even gave him a moments thought! He's nothing like Cher FGS. And why would they wanna emulate a forgettable AI flop from years ago? Makes no sense.
That Blake guy didnt have any quirkeness or fashion thing going on either that I remember.As usual your blind loyalty to your fave has meant you missed the point of my post.
Forgettable? He made the final, still signed, he's still making records, and doing his own thing. Not a record label puppet like other X-Factor and AI winners.
The point I was trying to make was that he was a hip hop crossover artist but he HAD talent your girl Cher has NONE. I've just watched her dismal showing from last night and, frankly, if she makes it thru then the whole show is a farce and she was destined to go thru from her first audition. The way she was staring down the piano player acting like it was his fault was particularly grim. If she makes it thru then I give her 3 weeks before she has a breakdown on stage. She's not good enough, she's not ready, she's not tough enough, she lacks the raw talent and the technique to back up that talent. She's living of the uniqueness of her first audition. Everything since that has been poor. She's a waste of time.
I doubt they even gave him a moments thought! He's nothing like Cher FGS. And why would they wanna emulate a forgettable AI flop from years ago? Makes no sense.
That Blake guy didnt have any quirkeness or fashion thing going on either that I remember.
Nobody's saying he's "like Cher", the idea of a rapper on the show to 'bring something different' is what's being compared. Also, he made the final, so calling him forgettable and a flop is a bit of an exaggeration, surely...?
Anyway, I think it's perfectly clear that Cher is a one trick pony, I've come to terms with the fact that at least four talented singers who gave it their all at Cheryl's house are going to go home disappointed because of Cher; so now I'm looking forward to seeing her get voted out of the competition :hugesmile:
bbfan1991
03-10-2010, 02:25 PM
Cher should just sing a boring cheesy pop cover to give the critics what they want then:sleep:.
Cher should just sing a boring cheesy pop cover to give the critics what they want then:sleep:.
No, she should sing/rap something that she can actually sing/rap, instead of failing abysmally at something out of her depth, and being praised by her fans because it's 'original'!
GiRTh
03-10-2010, 02:30 PM
Cher should just sing a boring cheesy pop cover to give the critics what they want then:sleep:.
No, she needs to prove she has more than one string to her bow. This is, supposedly, a singing contest. If she comes out and does the same thing over and over again then its not much of a competition, is it?
bbfan1991
03-10-2010, 02:37 PM
Maybe Cher will do something different for the live shows:), if I was her I wouldn't give a toss what the critics say and just get on with it:p.
Cher should just sing a boring cheesy pop cover to give the critics what they want then:sleep:.
I honestly don't think she's talented enough to even pull that off.
bbfan1991
03-10-2010, 02:39 PM
What a sinful person Cher Lloyd is:bawling:.
What a sinful person Cher Lloyd is:bawling:.
I don't think she's sinful.. Doesn't seem that a bad lass really. She's just not talented!
Zippy
03-10-2010, 02:42 PM
She's still young and finding her groove. Point is, she is trying to be creative and not just singing note for note covers like the rest. I dont mind karaoke but its nice to have a couple of less predictable contenders in the mix. And Im willing to sacrifice a better voice for it too.
She's still young and finding her groove. Point is, she is trying to be creative and not just singing note for note covers like the rest. I dont mind karaoke but its nice to have a couple of less predictable contenders in the mix. And Im willing to sacrifice a better voice for it too.
I'd 100% agree with you if Cher had a voice that could hold a tune; but she can't even do that. She visibly fell apart in front of Cheryl and will.i.am and I'm fully expecting it to happen again on the live shows. That, compounded with the rumours that both Cher and Katie got through, despite messing up - so essentially a display of histrionics is enough to get onto the live shows has angered me!
bbfan1991
03-10-2010, 02:52 PM
I presume some people will have 999 on speed dial:joker:.
IheartBB
03-10-2010, 02:54 PM
Her first audition is looking more and more like a fluke. Maybe/hopefully she'll get it together for the live shows.
Mystic Mock
03-10-2010, 04:16 PM
Cher should just sing a boring cheesy pop cover to give the critics what they want then:sleep:.
no she should just sing well.
Legend killer
03-10-2010, 04:27 PM
If Cheryl really cared about Cher she wld tell her to come back in a couple years time when she can deal with the pressure better. Becuz if/when she gets to the live shows she is going to be like a lamb to the slaughter
Mystic Mock
03-10-2010, 04:41 PM
If Cheryl really cared about Cher she wld tell her to come back in a couple years time when she can deal with the pressure better. Becuz if/when she gets to the live shows she is going to be like a lamb to the slaughter
cheryl isnt really a nice person, because if she was she wont let katie or cher go through as they cant cope with the pressure yet.
Legend killer
03-10-2010, 04:44 PM
cheryl isnt really a nice person, because if she was she wont let katie or cher go through as they cant cope with the pressure yet.
Totally agree but she alway's put's underserving ppl through , remember when she put that idoit Lloyd through lol he was a joke
Mystic Mock
03-10-2010, 04:48 PM
Totally agree but she alway's put's underserving ppl through , remember when she put that idoit Lloyd through lol he was a joke
yeah his more of a joke than eoghan quigg.
Legend killer
03-10-2010, 04:52 PM
yeah his more of a joke than eoghan quigg.
**** sake you have reminded me of that Numbty lol
Mystic Mock
03-10-2010, 04:54 PM
**** sake you have reminded me of that Numbty lol
how the **** did eoghan quigg come 3rd? out of so many talented singers aswell?
Legend killer
03-10-2010, 04:57 PM
how the **** did eoghan quigg come 3rd? out of so many talented singers aswell?
I don't have a ****ing clue , if i was a judge he wldnt have made it past 1st audtions , in fact with that stupid hairstyle he had going i would not have let him into the building
Mystic Mock
03-10-2010, 04:59 PM
I don't have a ****ing clue , if i was a judge he wldnt have made it past 1st audtions , in fact with that stupid hairstyle he had going i would not have let him into the building
:joker: i comepletely agree with you.
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