With all this Cheryl hate you are overlooking something...

[Joelle.]

She did make some bad decisions but she did put the best singer in the category through... Rebecca.

[Legend killer]

Dont think so Gamu was

[Tom]

Spot on. Gamu & Treyc were good but nothing we havent seen on XF before. Rebecca is different

[Joelle.]

Agreed. I find Gamu very overrated judging by how many threads there are about her not being picked. Rebecca is much better in my opinion but if she wasn't picked I couldn't see there being this much outrage. Very underrated.

[Zippy]

Dont think so Gamu was

Gamu stank. Deal with it!

[Tom]

I think the Gamu situation has been amplified by 1000000000000000 because she was edited to be up against Katie

[Zippy]

I think the Gamu situation has been amplified by 1000000000000000 because she was edited to be up against Katie

Good point. If she'd been pitted against Rebecca it would have looked like a great decision. Which it was anyway IMO.

[Mystic Mock]

only rebecca is a decent singer out of the girls.

[joeysteele]

only rebecca is a decent singer out of the girls.

You are 100% correct there.

[Niamh.]

Really???? Gamu is fantastic, I can't believe people here are saying she can't sing??!!!

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[KG.]

Agree with this, as much as I liked Gamu and wanted her through, Rebecca has been my favourite since her audition, she's a star.

[Niamh.]

Agree with this, as much as I liked Gamu and wanted her through, Rebecca has been my favourite since her audition, she's a star.

I reckon it'll be a battle between her and Matt for the win

[MrWong]

She did make some bad decisions but she did put the best singer in the category through... Rebecca.

She seems to do that alot.

Last year it was Lloyd and Rikki over Duane, really?!

Katie's sh!te and seems to have a really feeble fan base.
God knows what Cheryl was thinking.

Agreed that Rebecca is the best singer in that catergory.

[noid]

Why does everyone beat around the bush?


Either Cheryl or the producers insisted only one black girl be let through.

It's pure racism in this case. You can't argue with that. Should have been three black girls in Cheryl's group without question.

[Mystic Mock]

Why does everyone beat around the bush?


Either Cheryl or the producers insisted only one black girl be let through.

It's pure racism in this case. You can't argue with that. Should have been three black girls in Cheryl's group without question.

agreed.

[30stone]

Gamu was okay but she was nothing new, and had no confidence, people get on at leona for being boring, then like gamu? lol.

[30stone]

Why does everyone beat around the bush?


Either Cheryl or the producers insisted only one black girl be let through.

It's pure racism in this case. You can't argue with that. Should have been three black girls in Cheryl's group without question.

lol.
And there it is..


Anyway, Cher was destined to go through the amount of press over her etc.. she was always going through..
She would be fantastic in the charts.

The other 2 that went out were a bit samey to what we have..

[Zippy]

Why does everyone beat around the bush?


Either Cheryl or the producers insisted only one black girl be let through.

It's pure racism in this case. You can't argue with that. Should have been three black girls in Cheryl's group without question.

Utter crap. Youre paranoid.

The show is called Xfactor not Bestest ever singer.

[Mystic Mock]

Utter crap. Youre paranoid.

The show is called Xfactor not Bestest ever singer.

can you actually say cher and katie add anything to the show apart from there different?

[Zippy]

can you actually say cher and katie add anything to the show apart from there different?

Yes! they showed potential and creativity. With help and guidance they will deliver something thats not so predictable. Hopefully.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

can you actually say cher and katie add anything to the show apart from there different?
Yes! One seems to have mental issues and the other can't get through a song without choking or forgetting the words

[Mystic Mock]

Yes! One seems to have mental issues and the other can't get through a song without choking or forgetting the words

lol i never came up with that.:joker:

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Why does everyone beat around the bush?


Either Cheryl or the producers insisted only one black girl be let through.

It's pure racism in this case. You can't argue with that. Should have been three black girls in Cheryl's group without question.
Just read on twitter that apparently Cheryl was put under pressure to not put Gamu through. And Gamu will not be her wildcard.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Now Mr Paparazzi adds Cheryl was told not to put her through due to Visa troubles
http://www.mrpaparazzi.com/post/12819/Cheryl-Mayve-Been-Told-Not-To-Put-Gamu-Nhengu-Through-Due-To-Visa-Troubles.aspx

Yeah right why didn't they just do it the way they always do when someone doesn't have the visa or right age, they televise them going through the process or at least show something about why they were to leave the programme. Like on Irish popstars when Nadine lied about her age and said she couldn't remember her date her birth:joker: Bull crap!!

I hope nobody believes this crap. Hate the bitch! :D

[joeysteele]

can you actually say cher and katie add anything to the show apart from there different?

You are correct as ever jedward fever, no they do not and I saw not a single bit of evidence of any potential or creativity in their antics at Cheryl's house.
In fact I saw nothing at all,so for me they should have been cast aside as not ready, not willing and even not able to compete this year.

The only thing they could have done less was not bother to go to the judges house at all, we wouldn't have missed a single thing if they hadn't from all they didn't do once they were there and had the opportunity to impress.

[IheartBB]

I hate Rebecca's voice. To me that is not singing, it's putting ridiculous strain on your voice as well as a silly American accent to try and sound like an older woman with soul. She's from Liverpool - she doesn't have soul. I hate the fact that so many contestants feel the need to put this American accent into their singing - it sounds ****ing stupid.

[Niamh.]

I hate Rebecca's voice. To me that is not singing, it's putting ridiculous strain on your voice as well as a silly American accent to try and sound like an older woman with soul. She's from Liverpool - she doesn't have soul. I hate the fact that so many contestants feel the need to put this American accent into their singing - it sounds ****ing stupid.

Not many would agree with you there!

[IheartBB]

can you actually say cher and katie add anything to the show apart from there different?

They have both gave the show exactly what the guys in your username gave last year - publicity.

For good or for bad Cher has been the star of the show so far this year, and Katie has divided public opinion just like Jedward did.

[IheartBB]

Not many would agree with you there!

Most people are idiots, you're right.

[Niamh.]

Most people are idiots, you're right.

because they don't have the same taste as you?..................ohhhhhhhhh k then:rolleyes:

[robb]

She did make some bad decisions but she did put the best singer in the category through... Rebecca.

She had to......had she left her out as well there would have been a full scale inquest into the whole XF policy. If you get my drift.......

[Kazanne]

Now Mr Paparazzi adds Cheryl was told not to put her through due to Visa troubles
http://www.mrpaparazzi.com/post/12819/Cheryl-Mayve-Been-Told-Not-To-Put-Gamu-Nhengu-Through-Due-To-Visa-Troubles.aspx

Yeah right why didn't they just do it the way they always do when someone doesn't have the visa or right age, they televise them going through the process or at least show something about why they were to leave the programme. Like on Irish popstars when Nadine lied about her age and said she couldn't remember her date her birth:joker: Bull crap!!

I hope nobody believes this crap. Hate the bitch! :D

Well I for one do not believe it,Cheryl picked Cher because it is said "she looks like her"cheryl loves herself that much she would put a lookalike through even though she is crap,and has mental issues apparently,then Katie who has the memory of a goldfish and cant remember her words,Rebecca was the only decent one she picked,bliddy idiot.

[robb]

Gamu stank. Deal with it!

HARSH......especially as you seem to support the two who really stank Cheryl's house out!
Seriously though, if we are to believe that the visa issue was true (and xf producers deny it), then why did Cheryl act her way through telling Gamu she hadn't made it on ability alone? Truth is that Cheryl 'appeared' to care more about Tracey C and the others who didn't survive her cull.

[Lee.]

I hate Rebecca's voice. To me that is not singing, it's putting ridiculous strain on your voice as well as a silly American accent to try and sound like an older woman with soul. She's from Liverpool - she doesn't have soul. I hate the fact that so many contestants feel the need to put this American accent into their singing - it sounds ****ing stupid.

:amazed: The girl can sing! Whether or not she's to your taste, you cannot say that she can't sing!

[hels.a]

Cheryl picked Cher because it is said "she looks like her"

She absolutely does, she's like a little mini me! I thought Cher was a really good though, fair play she didn't exactly pull it out of the bag at the judges houses but she did have tonsillitis!

Katie was a very poor choice because she messed up ALL of her auditions but i think it's time to just let it go...

I personally would have put through Kerri.

[Niamh.]

She absolutely does, she's like a little mini me! I thought Cher was a really good though, fair play she didn't exactly pull it out of the bag at the judges houses but she did have tonsillitis!

Katie was a very poor choice because she messed up ALL of her auditions but i think it's time to just let it go...

I personally would have put through Kerri.

I loved kerri too. I was just saying in another thread that katie must know someone high up or something, how she managed to get to the lives shows is just beyond me, infact how she even got as far as bootcamp tbh with all her ***** ups

[MissKittyFantastico]

I hate Rebecca's voice. To me that is not singing, it's putting ridiculous strain on your voice as well as a silly American accent to try and sound like an older woman with soul. She's from Liverpool - she doesn't have soul. I hate the fact that so many contestants feel the need to put this American accent into their singing - it sounds ****ing stupid.

What the hell does the fact she comes from Liverpool have to do with her having soul or not? And plenty of singers sound older than they are when they sing, it's not putting anything on it's just the way they sound.

She's got a fantastic voice and you can still hear her accent imo.

[joeysteele]

I don't get this 'she had tonsillitis' for goodness sake, okay that would have impeded her voice but it wouldn't stop her 'performing' the song and showing she could remember the words at least.
She only had to sing for barely 2 to 3 minutes,she hadn't lost her voice,she didn't have laryngitis,nothing in Tonsillitis would stop her at least performing the song,allowances could have been made that her voice would not be as strong as usual due to tonsillitis but people make hour long speeches with Tonsillitis.
In a University, any student saying I cant make my presentation today because I have Tonsillitis would be laughed out the room.
It was hardly a taxing song she had, and she could have kept ini the soft area of her voice but still performed the thing.
She stood there and did nothing at all.Therefore failed by herself not due to Tonsillitis.

[Niamh.]

I don't get this 'she had tonsillitis' for goodness sake, okay that would have impeded her voice but it wouldn't stop her 'performing' the song and showing she could remember the words at least.
She only had to sing for barely 2 to 3 minutes,she hadn't lost her voice,she didn't have laryngitis,nothing in Tonsillitis would stop her at least performing the song,allowances could have been made that her voice would not be as strong as usual due to tonsillitis but people make hour long speeches with Tonsillitis.
In a University, any student saying I cant make my presentation today because I have Tonsillitis would be laughed out the room.
It was hardly a taxing song she had, and she could have kept ini the soft area of her voice but still performed the thing.
She stood there and did nothing at all.Therefore failed by herself not due to Tonsillitis.

and on top of that rejected cheryls offers to come back later too!

[hels.a]

I loved kerri too. I was just saying in another thread that katie must know someone high up or something, how she managed to get to the lives shows is just beyond me, infact how she even got as far as bootcamp tbh with all her ***** ups

According to The Sun,

Katie has spoken of being friends with presenter Dermot O'Leary's radio producer Simon Ward.

In another interview, conducted when she had her own reality show, she claimed ex-judge Sharon Osbourne - now helping Louis Walsh - had praised her singing after seeing her perform.

Katie also joined singing binman Andy Abraham on tour after he was a runner-up in the show's second series.

X Factor bosses came under pressure to disqualify her when it emerged she'd signed a US record deal under the name Lola Fontaine.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/x_factor/3165292/X-Factor-fans-blast-Its-Cher-madness.html

She had a realitly show?!

[joeysteele]

and on top of that rejected cheryls offers to come back later too!

Totally true, I had forgotten about that,really she was a waste of space at Cheryl's house.

[Niamh.]

According to The Sun,

Katie has spoken of being friends with presenter Dermot O'Leary's radio producer Simon Ward.

In another interview, conducted when she had her own reality show, she claimed ex-judge Sharon Osbourne - now helping Louis Walsh - had praised her singing after seeing her perform.

Katie also joined singing binman Andy Abraham on tour after he was a runner-up in the show's second series.

X Factor bosses came under pressure to disqualify her when it emerged she'd signed a US record deal under the name Lola Fontaine.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/x_factor/3165292/X-Factor-fans-blast-Its-Cher-madness.html

She had a realitly show?!

Oh really???!!! The plot thickens..................

[Loukas]

I still have money on Gamu tbh.. She could win, she is amazing!

[Joelle.]

I hate Rebecca's voice. To me that is not singing, it's putting ridiculous strain on your voice as well as a silly American accent to try and sound like an older woman with soul. She's from Liverpool - she doesn't have soul. I hate the fact that so many contestants feel the need to put this American accent into their singing - it sounds ****ing stupid.

You are talking out of your arse and if you think Rebeca has a bad voice you are either deaf or have really bad taste in music. Also what does the fact that she is from Liverpool have to do with anything? It just adds to the charm. Do you seriously think the other girls are better... Okay then, clearly deluded :pat:

[Mystic Mock]

They have both gave the show exactly what the guys in your username gave last year - publicity.

For good or for bad Cher has been the star of the show so far this year, and Katie has divided public opinion just like Jedward did.

but i dont think they have enthusiam,spark or entertainment like jedward did.

[joeysteele]

There is no comparison at all with Jedward and these 2 no hopers. JEDWARD had massive enthusiasm,energy and determination to be noticed, they have a charisma and personality that pulls you to watch them, 'even' if you aren't keen on them.
They took on everything that they were asked/told to do in boot camp, judges house and the 'live' shows.
These 2 girls showed not one single element of all of those things.

[Tom4784]

Rebecca's a dark horse, I can see her pulling a Alexandra, putting in good performances but largely goes unnoticed until a few weeks before the end. I'd currently say she's my favorite although I'm waiting for the first live show to decide properly.

[IheartBB]

because they don't have the same taste as you?..................ohhhhhhhhh k then:rolleyes:

It was a joke.... Ohhhhhhhhh k?

You are talking out of your arse and if you think Rebeca has a bad voice you are either deaf or have really bad taste in music. Also what does the fact that she is from Liverpool have to do with anything? It just adds to the charm.

You think my opinion is wrong, I think yours is wrong :shrug: That's all this comes down to.

She's good at putting on this fake voice of hers, but for me it's just a complete turn off. I'd rather people sing with their accents - this is a dig at most of the other acts in the competition and British artists in general, not just Rebecca!

Although my comment was made slightly in jest, where she comes from actually has a lot of relevence when talking about soul music. The origins of this music are a far cry from her hometown. "It adds to the charm"? You may be right there - she seems like a nice albeit timid girl - but this really has no relevence to the soul music she attempts to sing as she doesn't even try to put through her personality into a performance.

Do you seriously think the other girls are better... Okay then, clearly deluded :pat:

I don't really support either of them, but in terms of originality, personality and potential, yes I think they both are. If that makes me deluded in your eyes then so be it. You're clearly deluded in mine too :pat:

[Joelle.]

She's good at putting on this fake voice of hers, but for me it's just a complete turn off. I'd rather people sing with their accents - this is a dig at most of the other acts in the competition and British artists in general, not just Rebecca!

I dont get this whole fake voice thing you are on about. She is hardly going to sing in her broad scouse accent is she??? A persons natural singing voice isn't always the same as their actual voice. Think about it, how many singers these days sing with an accent? Put it this way... if you were a singer and had an accent such as geordie, cockney or scouse, would you seriously try to sing with that accent?

[Lee.]

I'd rather people sing with their accents

Like this?...

tM0sTNtWDiI

:joker:

[IheartBB]

I dont get this whole fake voice thing you are on about. She is hardly going to sing in her broad scouse accent is she??? A persons natural singing voice isn't always the same as their actual voice. Think about it, how many singers these days sing with an accent? Put it this way... if you were a singer and had an accent such as geordie, cockney or scouse, would you seriously try to sing with that accent?

Why not?! American artists sing in their own accents so why don't the British? She speaks in it all day everyday so surely singing in it can't be too hard.

It will only sound strange because people are so used to hearing the American accent that has become so standard in the music industry today. So normal that I don't even notice it most of the time either. The thing with Rebecca is that she takes the standard American singing accent even further and actually tries to impersonate a minority accent in order to sound more soulful. Her singing voice sounds more like she's from Chicago or New York, where soul music is said to originate from.

A little bit of trivia for you - in her first audition Rebecca sang "Change Will Come" by Sam Cooke, from Chicago, Illinois.

THIS is my problem with Rebecca and her voice, and the reason why I hate artists like Joss Stone and Taio Cruz (even if they do have some very catchy songs!)

Like this?...

Classic!! :joker:

[Legend killer]

These excuses don't cut it with me , Cheryl made a **** decsion end of

[Lee.]

These excuses don't cut it with me , Cheryl made a **** decsion end of

Yeah, that pretty much sums it up for me tto :thumbs:

[Mystic Mock]

These excuses don't cut it with me , Cheryl made a **** decsion end of

this.

[Joelle.]

Why not?! American artists sing in their own accents so why don't the British? She speaks in it all day everyday so surely singing in it can't be too hard.

It will only sound strange because people are so used to hearing the American accent that has become so standard in the music industry today. So normal that I don't even notice it most of the time either. The thing with Rebecca is that she takes the standard American singing accent even further and actually tries to impersonate a minority accent in order to sound more soulful. Her singing voice sounds more like she's from Chicago or New York, where soul music is said to originate from.

A little bit of trivia for you - in her first audition Rebecca sang "Change Will Come" by Sam Cooke, from Chicago, Illinois.

THIS is my problem with Rebecca and her voice, and the reason why I hate artists like Joss Stone and Taio Cruz (even if they do have some very catchy songs!)



Classic!! :joker:

Yes, the thing is though she doesn't sound American at all. You are criticising almost everyone in the music industry for not singing with their own accent. I don't see what the problem is. SHE CAN SING. FACT! Plus what the hell, since when did Joss Stone sing in an american accent!?

[Legend killer]

Yeah, that pretty much sums it up for me tto :thumbs:

this.

Great minds think alike lol

[Legend killer]

If it had been any other judge these lame excuses would not have been used , but becuz Chav Cheryl is getting a bit of stick thier being thrown all around the place

[IheartBB]

:joker:

[Joelle.]

:joker:

oh you think you're so funny don't you hahaha. do you enjoy winding people up or are you just bitter that you know im right about rebecca?

[cub]

I thought Gamu was different. We haven't seen anyone like her in years.

I love Rebecca, but she's from the school of Amy Winehouse, Duffy, Laura White. Not completely original.

[Jack_]

They have both gave the show exactly what the guys in your username gave last year - publicity.

For good or for bad Cher has been the star of the show so far this year, and Katie has divided public opinion just like Jedward did.

At last someone sees sense!