Gamu axed over visa fears [Archive] - ThisisBigBrother.com

MarkWaldorf

05-10-2010, 10:44 AM

vultures the lot of you! i told ya'll cheryl was innocent.

Cheryl Cole was reportedly told not to pick X Factor's Gamu Nhengu as one of her three finalists due to fears that her visa may not be renewed.

Viewers of the ITV reality show have reacted furiously after Cole chose not to put Gamu through to the live shows, over 133,000 of whom have now joined a Facebook campaign.

"It was made clear Gamu shouldn't go through because of the visa," an insider told The Mirror. "Cheryl didn't have a say."

It is claimed that Cole was ordered not to choose the 18-year-old Zimbabwe-born singer over concerns that her visa would not be renewed, leading to her having to leave the country.

A production source said: "Cheryl didn't have much of a say in the matter. It was made clear that Gamu shouldn't be put through because they had issues with her, including the visa.

"A lot of people on the show think it's really unfair that Cheryl is taking all the flak as it was a group decision and she was just following orders."

They continued: "It's ridiculous the situation has got this far. It should have been knocked on the head much earlier on. Gamu should never have been put through to the Judges' Houses with question marks surrounding her visa.

"Everyone on the show has themselves to blame for not being straight from the beginning. Gamu not getting through has now become a bigger talking point than the 12 finalists."

An X Factor spokesman added: "Gamu's visa being processed was not the reason that she didn't make the final 12."

However, he apparently confirmed that the papers are still being renewed and therefore have not yet been processed.

Source: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s103/the-x-factor/news/a280312/x-factor-gamu-axed-over-visa-fears.html

ChristmasNeeve

05-10-2010, 10:48 AM

I don't buy that, why wasn't that made clear then?? plus why did the spokesman say it wasn't over the visa that she wasn't picked? Trying to get Cheryl out of trouble I think.

MarkWaldorf

05-10-2010, 10:51 AM

oh come on it's the x factor. they let that crazy 'mercy' woman through and only after weeks of bootcamp did they tell us she was insane.

ChristmasNeeve

05-10-2010, 11:06 AM

well, I for one would like to hear more about this visa issue tbh maybe even a statement from Gamu confirming it.

joeysteele

05-10-2010, 11:06 AM

She still didnt have to put through 2 girls who didnt bother singing at all though,for sure at the judges houses and also boot camp too, Treyc was miles better at the house and also at boot camp.
It has to be realised that Cheryl put 2 girls through to 'live' finals of a singing/performing show who neither sang or performed anything to her, one not at all and the other unable get to the 2nd verse of a song.
That was rediculous,she had other girls, not just Gamu anyway and the words 'may not' in the, her visa 'may' not be renewed statement, does not say for certain it will 'not' be.

ChristmasNeeve

05-10-2010, 11:10 AM

Kazanne

05-10-2010, 11:19 AM

I don't buy that, why wasn't that made clear then?? plus why did the spokesman say it wasn't over the visa that she wasn't picked? Trying to get Cheryl out of trouble I think.

I agree,Cheryl effed up big time and now the powers that be are desperately trying to put it right,hence the 'wild card' gimmick,they will bring Gamu back hoping it will all be forgotten,it annoys me that tabloids etc,think they can fool us all.

ChristmasNeeve

05-10-2010, 11:22 AM

I agree,Cheryl effed up big time and now the powers that be are desperately trying to put it right,hence the 'wild card' gimmick,they will bring Gamu back hoping it will all be forgotten,it annoys me that tabloids etc,think they can fool us all.

well apparently (don't read if you don't want to hear a potential spoiler)

she doesn't even pick Gamu, she picks TreyC

Kazanne

05-10-2010, 11:30 AM

well apparently (don't read if you don't want to hear a potential spoiler)

she doesn't even pick Gamu, she picks TreyC

Oh cripes,LOL:joker:

MargeryFan

05-10-2010, 11:38 AM

She still put through katie, who fluffled up twice over 2 other really good singers.

ChristmasNeeve

05-10-2010, 11:41 AM

She still put through katie, who fluffled up twice over 2 other really good singers.

yeah, 3 other singers imo Gamu, TreyC and Kerri

MargeryFan

05-10-2010, 11:54 AM

yeah, 3 other singers imo Gamu, TreyC and Kerri

I agree but I was just speaking in response to this excuse that Gamu was a risk. There really is no excuse for putting through Katie, who has fluffed up on more than one occasion. Cher I can kind of understand as she had a sore throat but come on cheryl, don't take the piss love.

ChristmasNeeve

05-10-2010, 11:56 AM

I agree but I was just speaking in response to this excuse that Gamu was a risk. There really is no excuse for putting through Katie, who has fluffed up on more than one occasion. Cher I can kind of understand as she had a sore throat but come on cheryl, don't take the piss love.

yeah that's fair enough about Cher I suppose (eventhough she said no to trying again later) but personally I thought she was shocking everytime even when she "sang"

Kazanne

05-10-2010, 12:35 PM

vultures the lot of you! i told ya'll cheryl was innocent.

Source: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s103/the-x-factor/news/a280312/x-factor-gamu-axed-over-visa-fears.html

Not according to this.
ITV have rejected claims that X Factor Gamu Nhengu was kicked off the show because of worries over her immigration status.

As support builds for her to be re-instated, with a Facebook group called Gamu Should Have Got Through now boasting 130,000 members, Gamu is now reacquainting herself with reality back in Scotland.

Previously enjoying a taste of the glitzy X Factor lifestyle, Gamu has returned to the small flat she shares with her mother and two young brothers. While the acts that made it through to the final 12 are settling into their £3.5m mansion and getting makeovers.

Gamu's beautiful voice won her millions of viewer's hearts but Cheryl Cole told her: "It's just a question for me now as to whether you brought the star quality that I was looking for"

She was later told she would not be in Cheryl's final three acts.

It has been reported that Cole was influenced by fears that Gamu's visa will shortly run out and may not be renewed, but a spokeswoman for the ITV1 talent show said: "Gamu's visa being processed was not the reason that she didn't make the final 12."

The 18-year-old, who had dreams of helping her family escape their current tiny home, had those hopes shattered and was left inconsolable after Sunday night's rejection.

Speaking to the Mail Gamu's mother said the singer was "around but she doesn't know if she can speak to anyone".

ITV then called Gamu to let her know she could speak to reporters but she declined to do any interviews.

Gamu moved to the flat in Clackmannanshire, near Stirling, Scotland, with her mother Nokuthula and her two brothers Milton, 12, and Marty, 10, from Zimbabwe eight years ago.

There is one last chance for Gamu in the competition though – she may be brought back as Cheryl's 'wildcard', after it emerged that judges may be allowed to reintroduce an act that didn't make it through to the final 12.

Gamu has so far been gracious in defeat and has thanked her adopted country for giving her the chance to compete.
She said: "It would not have been possible... I regard myself as a Scottish contestant because this country has been so good to me.

"I have loads of great friends and loads of good people around me. It has been great."

At the weekend Gamu was note perfect, while her rival Katie Waissel appeared to forget the words to Charlie Chaplin's Smile. She then broke down in tears, before being allowed to start again.

setanta

05-10-2010, 01:01 PM

Sounds like a damage limitation number from the PR group at the X Factor, but I'm not buying it. And sure why is Gamu getting all the focus anyway? She picked two girls who couldn't even sing on the day, that's the issue, while the rest of them sang very well and got shafted.

KG.

05-10-2010, 01:07 PM

BB_Eye

05-10-2010, 01:11 PM

ChristmasNeeve

05-10-2010, 01:13 PM

As I've said before, it's difficult to seperate fact from fiction when it comes to any tabloid human interest story. I'm certainly not convinced with Cheryl's "you're not old enough yet" excuse, which should have excluded Cher from getting through.

Did she really say that to her?:shocked: after Cher-who is younger- had a melt down with the pressure??????:shocked:

BB_Eye

05-10-2010, 01:25 PM

Did she really say that to her?:shocked: after Cher-who is younger- had a melt down with the pressure??????:shocked:
Something along the lines of "it might be better if you came back in a year or two".

Smithy

05-10-2010, 01:26 PM

She still put through Katie and Cher, they were the worst performers over all, clearly the malaria made her :crazy:

ChristmasNeeve

05-10-2010, 01:34 PM

Something along the lines of "it might be better if you came back in a year or two".

OMG, I missed that completely, I'm even more annoyed now!!:devil:

MissKittyFantastico

05-10-2010, 01:39 PM

ChristmasNeeve

05-10-2010, 01:43 PM

Pffft, load of rubbish, they're just trying to cover up for 'Queen Cheryl', although I doubt it was even her decision who went through anyway, doesn't Simon have the overall say in things? He's just trying to limit the backlash on his precious angel :rolleyes:

well tbh I got the impression that Cheryl didn't like Katie at all, she rolled her eyes and called her a drama queen when she forgot her lines and started crying. Will.I.Am seemed less than impressed with her too, you'd have to wonder if Simon is doing a favour for that record company she's signed with or something.

MissKittyFantastico

05-10-2010, 01:51 PM

well tbh I got the impression that Cheryl didn't like Katie at all, she rolled her eyes and called her a drama queen when she forgot her lines and started crying. Will.I.Am seemed less than impressed with her too, you'd have to wonder if Simon is doing a favour for that record company she's signed with or something.

Yep I really didn't think she would put Katie through, even with having seen the spoilers, she didn't seem keen at all. I heard that the 'powers that be' got Katie out of her record contract so she could still take part in X Factor....why?? She should have been kicked out according to the rules! Defo something fishy going on.

ChristmasNeeve

05-10-2010, 01:55 PM

Yep I really didn't think she would put Katie through, even with having seen the spoilers, she didn't seem keen at all. I heard that the 'powers that be' got Katie out of her record contract so she could still take part in X Factor....why?? She should have been kicked out according to the rules! Defo something fishy going on.

yep, she hasn't got a hope in hell of winning anyway so maybe she should have stayed in her contract! She must know someone in there who can pull strings I reckon.

MeMyselfAndI

05-10-2010, 01:57 PM

gamu back..

MarkWaldorf

05-10-2010, 02:27 PM

i remember visa rumours way before judges houses.

http://entertainment.stv.tv/tv/197338-deportation-threat-puts-gamu-nhengus-x-factor-hopes-in-jeopardy/

Merry Mockmas

05-10-2010, 02:45 PM

Jack_

05-10-2010, 03:34 PM

ChristmasNeeve

05-10-2010, 03:38 PM

At the end of the day Cher and Katie are far, far more interesting. It's not all about the voice on the 'X Factor' - it's a combination of vocal ability, stage presence, personality, the 'look', how 'different' they are etc. Whilst Cher and Katie weren't the most vocally talented, they are certainly a damn sight more interesting than the likes of Keri [who?], that girl who got rejected for a second time and TreyC [whom I do like, but she isn't that interesting]. Cher is very different to what we've ever had on X Factor, and Katie is quirky and interesting. Both will be far more entertaining/worth watching that the others would've been. I like Gamu [on par with Rebecca], and also felt sorry for her, and wouldn't have minded if she got through...but this obsession with her is really OTT...she wasn't that great.

Yes she was!

And as for katie, quirky and interesting? I would say annoying and irritating.

Jack_

05-10-2010, 04:00 PM

Yes she was!

She has a great voice but...no personality, really. Only her 'back story'.

And as for katie, quirky and interesting? I would say annoying and irritating.

That's why she's a better choice than Gamu, because she divides opinion. She's like marmite - she creates a lot of discussion. At least she's not dull!

setanta

05-10-2010, 04:02 PM

At the end of the day Cher and Katie are far, far more interesting. It's not all about the voice on the 'X Factor' - it's a combination of vocal ability, stage presence, personality, the 'look', how 'different' they are etc. Whilst Cher and Katie weren't the most vocally talented, they are certainly a damn sight more interesting than the likes of Keri [who?], that girl who got rejected for a second time and TreyC [whom I do like, but she isn't that interesting]. Cher is very different to what we've ever had on X Factor, and Katie is quirky and interesting. Both will be far more entertaining/worth watching that the others would've been. I like Gamu [on par with Rebecca], and also felt sorry for her, and wouldn't have minded if she got through...but this obsession with her is really OTT...she wasn't that great.

I hate this rubbish about being different and quirky. If they were so amazing they'd already have made a name for themselves and found an audience without the help of the X Factor. This is about finding raw, untapped talent - well, that was what I thought it was about anyway.

Dusty, Nina and Ella wouldn't stand a chance on this plastic, disposable and souless show.

Patrick

05-10-2010, 04:03 PM

'13 Thousand joined a Facebook campaign'

Sad bastards.

ChristmasNeeve

05-10-2010, 04:05 PM

She has a great voice but...no personality, really. Only her 'back story'.

That's why she's a better choice than Gamu, because she divides opinion. She's like marmite - she creates a lot of discussion. At least she's not dull!

what do you mean no personality?? I thought she was adorable. I have my fingers crossed that katie is out first anyway.

Tom4784

05-10-2010, 04:05 PM

Even if that's the case people will still blame Cheryl because people love to hate and find blame figures.

Jack_

05-10-2010, 04:08 PM

I hate this rubbish about being different and quirky. If they were so amazing they'd already have made a name for themselves and found an audience without the help of the X Factor. This is about finding raw, untapped talent - well, that was what I thought it was about anyway.

How would they? Cher's only 16 and Katie's only 24. It's not always easy...hence why X Factor is a platform for it.

At the end of the day the winner has to be commercially viable, just the same as it is right across the industry - acts like Keri who, admittedly, have good voices, but have no personality, no stage presence, nothing that stands out about them won't sell. At least with Cher and Katie you know they're going to be interesting performances, if Keri had've gone through it would've been snore, snore snore :sleep:

Jack_

05-10-2010, 04:10 PM

what do you mean no personality?? I thought she was adorable. I have my fingers crossed that katie is out first anyway.

Yes she was...but there was nothing that really stood out about her, was there? Only her upbringing [as I said, her 'back story].

I see Katie as another Diana Vickers type, to be honest. You'll either love her or you'll hate her - but that's why she deserves her spot, much more to her than some of the rejected girls.

setanta

05-10-2010, 04:12 PM

How would they? Cher's only 16 and Katie's only 24. It's not always easy...hence why X Factor is a platform for it.

At the end of the day the winner has to be commercially viable, just the same as it is right across the industry - acts like Keri who, admittedly, have good voices, but have no personality, no stage presence, nothing that stands out about them won't sell. At least with Cher and Katie you know they're going to be interesting performances, if Keri had've gone through it would've been snore, snore snore :sleep:

Interesting as in car crash performances? Fair enough.

What you consider personality is what I call vapid, manipulative and false. I prefer a voice with genuine warmth and style... the rest can be worked on with the right mentor.

ChristmasNeeve

05-10-2010, 04:13 PM

Yes she was...but there was nothing that really stood out about her, was there? Only her upbringing [as I said, her 'back story].

I see Katie as another Diana Vickers type, to be honest. You'll either love her or you'll hate her - but that's why she deserves her spot, much more to her than some of the rejected girls.

i see what you're saying about katie but what annoys me most of all is all the chances she's been given when she's messed up so much, something is just not right there. Diana did good auditions to earn her place in the show.

Stephanie

05-10-2010, 04:24 PM

messing up 2 out of 3 auditions should not be tolerated imo.

Jack_

05-10-2010, 04:33 PM

Interesting as in car crash performances? Fair enough.

What you consider personality is what I call vapid, manipulative and false. I prefer a voice with genuine warmth and style... the rest can be worked on with the right mentor.

Cher in particular is something we've never had on X Factor before, of course it's going to be interesting. She raps/sings - how is she going to take on Big Band Week? That's the kind of stuff I'm interested in. Someone like TreyC/Keri...not so interesting.

A personality can't be worked on with a mentor, really. You either have it or you don't. Bit like Rachel from last year, nice voice but dull as ***** to watch. And once she'd been pulled up on this she thought the best way forward was to copy Stacey Solomon's 'ditzy' personality - and it failed miserably, infact I think that's the week she left the show. It was laughable. You either have it or you don't.

i see what you're saying about katie but what annoys me most of all is all the chances she's been given when she's messed up so much, something is just not right there. Diana did good auditions to earn her place in the show.

That's a fair point, but the Live Shows will be the real test. If she messes up her words there then fair enough, then I'll reconsider my opinion on her, but right now [even if she has messed up before], I think she deserves her place for being a lot more interesting than the rest of the girls.

Don't forget Mary messed up her words at Judge's Houses - so it's not just Katie.

Smithy

05-10-2010, 04:36 PM

At the end of the day Cher and Katie are far, far more interesting. It's not all about the voice on the 'X Factor' - it's a combination of vocal ability, stage presence, personality, the 'look', how 'different' they are etc. Whilst Cher and Katie weren't the most vocally talented, they are certainly a damn sight more interesting than the likes of Keri [who?], that girl who got rejected for a second time and TreyC [whom I do like, but she isn't that interesting]. Cher is very different to what we've ever had on X Factor, and Katie is quirky and interesting. Both will be far more entertaining/worth watching that the others would've been. I like Gamu [on par with Rebecca], and also felt sorry for her, and wouldn't have minded if she got through...but this obsession with her is really OTT...she wasn't that great.
This is a singing competition at the end of the day it's about whoever has the best voices should go through.
'13 Thousand joined a Facebook campaign'

Sad bastards.
Says the person who started about a million petitions to bring back Big Brother
:rolleyes:

Stacey.

05-10-2010, 04:38 PM

That sorta explains it then.

Jords

05-10-2010, 04:40 PM

I love the fact 'Gamu not getting through has now become a bigger talking point than the 12 finalists.' :D

And me thinks this is just to cover Cheryl's ass, the girl cant judge fairly and that is that, NICOLE PLEASE.

setanta

05-10-2010, 04:40 PM

Cher in particular is something we've never had on X Factor before, of course it's going to be interesting. She raps/sings - how is she going to take on Big Band Week? That's the kind of stuff I'm interested in. Someone like TreyC/Keri...not so interesting.

A personality can't be worked on with a mentor, really. You either have it or you don't. Bit like Rachel from last year, nice voice but dull as ***** to watch. And once she'd been pulled up on this she thought the best way forward was to copy Stacey Solomon's 'ditzy' personality - and it failed miserably, infact I think that's the week she left the show. It was laughable. You either have it or you don't.

.

Well, I actually think Rachel is naturally ditzy whereas Stacey played that role to the max. Bit of a diva now apparently.

You either have a voice or you don't, that's what I think. Danni ruined Rachel's chances while the choices that Cheryl made this year are an indictment on the show itself and the way the music industry has become a conveyor belt for the newest fad, with genuinely great voices being cast aside for pretence. Gamu has it, they don't... they just have a look, and we'll be seeing them exiting the show very soon. There'll be a big back lash in voting, guaranteed.

King Gizzard

05-10-2010, 04:45 PM

Cover up to save their precious Cheryl

Jack_

05-10-2010, 04:45 PM

This is a singing competition at the end of the day it's about whoever has the best voices should go through.

No it isn't, it never has been and it never will be. It's not called 'X Factor' for nothing. 'X' meaning a combination of different things that make up a commercially viable act. If it was called the 'Singing Factor' then fair enough, but it's not. It has and never will be just about the singing. It's about vocal ability, stage presence, personality, the 'look' etc. For example, Jedward ticked the stage presence and personality [although that's debatable] boxes, but their vocal talent was awful. On the other end of the spectrum we have Rachel Adedeji, for example, who had the vocal talent but had no stage presence, no personality, the wrong look etc.

At the end of the day you can have the best vocal talent in the world, but if you're dull as ***** chances are you're not going to have a sell-out tour, are you? There's exceptions of course but on the whole to be commercially viable you have to tick all of those boxes. Cher and Katie tick most, although some could admittedly be improved, Keri and Gamu only tick one...possibly two.

Jords

05-10-2010, 04:47 PM

Dressing up in wierd fancy clothes does not mean they have The X Factor, I like Katie but she came across so desperate (not in a good way either).

Joelle.

05-10-2010, 04:47 PM

I personally don't like Katie. I don't like her voice and I think she is arrogant and irritating. But the fact whether or not I like her doesn't really matter. Messing up at the auditions and breaking down at judges houses simply doesn't warrant her getting a place in the finals. Gamu, TreyC, Keri, Annastasia and Raquel should have all gone through before Katie and Cher.

Smithy

05-10-2010, 04:54 PM

No it isn't, it never has been and it never will be. It's not called 'X Factor' for nothing. 'X' meaning a combination of different things that make up a commercially viable act. If it was called the 'Singing Factor' then fair enough, but it's not. It has and never will be just about the singing. It's about vocal ability, stage presence, personality, the 'look' etc. For example, Jedward ticked the stage presence and personality [although that's debatable] boxes, but their vocal talent was awful. On the other end of the spectrum we have Rachel Adedeji, for example, who had the vocal talent but had no stage presence, no personality, the wrong look etc.

At the end of the day you can have the best vocal talent in the world, but if you're dull as ***** chances are you're not going to have a sell-out tour, are you? There's exceptions of course but on the whole to be commercially viable you have to tick all of those boxes. Cher and Katie tick most, although some could admittedly be improved, Keri and Gamu only tick one...possibly two.

The X Factor is a British television singing competition contested by aspiring singers drawn from public auditions

The X Factor is a television talent show franchise originating in the United Kingdom, where it was devised as a replacement for Pop Idol. It is a singing competition

Just like American Idol, X Factor is a singing competition. Unlike American Idol, it's a singing competition for different age groups.

The British show X Factor, set to launch in the U.S. next year, is improving the performance of vocalists in a singing competition.

It is a singing competition, it always has been it always will be the list of things you mentioned are absent from pretty much all winners bar maybe one or two. They all had good voices, because it is a singing competition.

You can argue your point all you want but it's a singing competition, and both Cher and Katie shouldn't have gotten through.

Stephanie

05-10-2010, 05:11 PM

it's a singing competition lmfao. that's why they sing :L

Stacey.

05-10-2010, 05:13 PM

Cher's a good singer though..

Joelle.

05-10-2010, 05:15 PM

cher's a good singer though..

on what planet!?

Merry Mockmas

05-10-2010, 05:20 PM

Cher in particular is something we've never had on X Factor before, of course it's going to be interesting. She raps/sings - how is she going to take on Big Band Week? That's the kind of stuff I'm interested in. Someone like TreyC/Keri...not so interesting.

A personality can't be worked on with a mentor, really. You either have it or you don't. Bit like Rachel from last year, nice voice but dull as ***** to watch. And once she'd been pulled up on this she thought the best way forward was to copy Stacey Solomon's 'ditzy' personality - and it failed miserably, infact I think that's the week she left the show. It was laughable. You either have it or you don't.

That's a fair point, but the Live Shows will be the real test. If she messes up her words there then fair enough, then I'll reconsider my opinion on her, but right now [even if she has messed up before], I think she deserves her place for being a lot more interesting than the rest of the girls.

Don't forget Mary messed up her words at Judge's Houses - so it's not just Katie.

i dont think mary should have gone through as the judges are meant to be professional.

Merry Mockmas

05-10-2010, 05:24 PM

M X

05-10-2010, 05:28 PM

tbh, if it was something to do with her versa then you can't blame cheryl. however, you can't blame cheryl for anything. it's her choice, her decision & lets face it, cher and katie's past performances have been brilliant.

Jack_

05-10-2010, 05:32 PM

It is a singing competition, it always has been it always will be the list of things you mentioned are absent from pretty much all winners bar maybe one or two. They all had good voices, because it is a singing competition.

You can argue your point all you want but it's a singing competition, and both Cher and Katie shouldn't have gotten through.

All Wikipedia definitions that can and probably are written by people that don't have a clue. It is not just a singing competition, or else why would the Judge's keep referring to lines such as 'do you have the X Factor'? Dannii said it herself when giving one of the results to her boys this Sunday. The 'X Factor' is having that star quality, something different, something that stands out, a combination of different things [vocal ability, stage presence, personality, the 'look'].

Whilst we're using Wikipedia definitions, here is the real definition of the 'X Factor' itself, not the show. This is what it means:

X factor is an expression referring to an indefinable quality, particularly when referring to individuality and personality. Since these elements of a person or thing might not be measurable or definable, the "X factor" (since "X" is commonly used as a variable) is often used to explain its appeal. Compare je ne sais quoi.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Factor

Joelle.

05-10-2010, 05:33 PM

cher and katie's past performances have been brilliant

Im sorry but on what planet?!

Katie has broken down on two of her three performances without being able to sing the song properly. Doesn't really say much for the live shows does it?
And Cher had an okay audition but from then on in she has been utter ****e and like Katie broke down at judges houses.

Tom4784

05-10-2010, 05:34 PM

You're naive if you think this is just to cover Cheryl's ass as that would mean you think you judges (apart from Simon) have any say of who goes through. Cheryl, Dannii and Louis get told who to put through while Simon puts on the theatrics for acts he hates to create drama. It's all fake, nothing that isn't live from the X Factor (and even then it shouldn't be taken as gospel) should ever be taken as the truth.

The audition stages rely on a lot of setups.

Jack_

05-10-2010, 05:40 PM

Oh, and another thing. Do you really think 16 - 20 million people would tune in to the likes of Keri, Rachel Adedeji, Daniel Evans etc? No, not they wouldn't. They tune in to see the big performances, the big stars, the people that have something different. Samey bores do not pull in big audiences, that's a fact. All TV shows have to be entertaining and so if they're not no one will watch. As much as they are awful, there is no denying a large majority tuning in last year were tuning in to see Jedward [either because they loved them, or because they hated them and wanted to slate them more]. Of course some were tuning in for Joe, Stacey etc [the proper 'singers'], but I would hedge a bet that it's a smaller amount than the ones wanting something worthwhile. It's the same with practically every single TV show there is - it has to be entertaining and worth watching or else no one will watch. Big personalities make it entertaining. Simple, really.

it's a singing competition lmfao. that's why they sing :L

Then why the choreographers and big performances? Why all the emphasis on stage presence? Why all the comments about 'you have the look', 'you look like a popstar'? Why all of the comments about 'you have the likeability factor', 'you have a great personality' etc? Why all of these things if the show was only about singing? It is a combination of many things, singing being the main one [but only slightly], but they are not judged only on their vocal talents. It's a combination of things. Always has been, always will be.

Braden

05-10-2010, 05:56 PM

Cher in particular is something we've never had on X Factor before, of course it's going to be interesting. She raps/sings - how is she going to take on Big Band Week? That's the kind of stuff I'm interested in. Someone like TreyC/Keri...not so interesting.

A personality can't be worked on with a mentor, really. You either have it or you don't. Bit like Rachel from last year, nice voice but dull as ***** to watch. And once she'd been pulled up on this she thought the best way forward was to copy Stacey Solomon's 'ditzy' personality - and it failed miserably, infact I think that's the week she left the show. It was laughable. You either have it or you don't.

That's a fair point, but the Live Shows will be the real test. If she messes up her words there then fair enough, then I'll reconsider my opinion on her, but right now [even if she has messed up before], I think she deserves her place for being a lot more interesting than the rest of the girls.

Don't forget Mary messed up her words at Judge's Houses - so it's not just Katie.

PMSL, how did it fail? Rachel got the most votes that week.

People are allowed opinions, I think personally that she's one-dimensional.

Jack_

05-10-2010, 06:01 PM

PMSL, how did it fail? Rachel got the most votes that week.

Did she? Well I did say 'think', not that I knew. Didn't work for long though did it? She was out the following week.

People are allowed opinions, I think personally that she's one-dimensional.

Of course they are...I've never said they're not allowed them, I'm just saying that A) it's not just a singing competition and B) in my opinion, Katie is more worthy of a place than some of the others mentioned.

I personally think Gamu is one-dimensional.

Joelle.

05-10-2010, 06:06 PM

Don't forget Mary messed up her words at Judge's Houses - so it's not just Katie.

LOL! Mary forgot two words but she incorporated it into the song and she easily got through it.

On the other hand, Katie messed up the whole song, broke down in front of cheryl and didn't even finish the song.

There is quite a difference.

Jack_

05-10-2010, 06:18 PM

LOL! Mary forgot two words but she incorporated it into the song and she easily got through it.

On the other hand, Katie messed up the whole song, broke down in front of cheryl and didn't even finish the song.

There is quite a difference.

She still 'messed up' though...that's the point.

And Mary is 50 and Katie is 24. There is quite a difference [especially when it comes to experience].

Stephanie

05-10-2010, 06:19 PM

LOL! Mary forgot two words but she incorporated it into the song and she easily got through it.

On the other hand, Katie messed up the whole song, broke down in front of cheryl and didn't even finish the song.

There is quite a difference.
exactly katie just started the dramatics, where as mary just sang i don't know the words or something in the song and carried on as normal.

Jack_

05-10-2010, 06:23 PM

As I said, the lives will be a real test for her. If she can hold it together then she evidently deserves her place, but if she messes up [her words] then I'll take back what I said and accept that maybe she didn't deserve her place. One thing is for sure though, she and Cher are a damn sight more interesting than some of the other girls that were in her category.

Joelle.

05-10-2010, 06:24 PM

She still 'messed up' though...that's the point.

And Mary is 50 and Katie is 24. There is quite a difference [especially when it comes to experience].

She hardly messed up, she sang 'ive forgotten the words' and then just carried on as normal. Mary got through the song and didn't have to turn on the water works like attention seeking Katie.

Jack_

05-10-2010, 06:27 PM

She hardly messed up, she sang 'ive forgotten the words' and then just carried on as normal. Mary got through the song and didn't have to turn on the water works like attention seeking Katie.

She messed up because she forgot part of the song, sure Katie might've forgotten more but they both still forgot part of the song, that's the principle at the end of the day.

And sure she might've done that...but hey as I've already said that's a damn sight more interesting and worth watching than Keri etc.

Stephanie

05-10-2010, 06:32 PM

And sure she might've done that...but hey as I've already said that's a damn sight more interesting and worth watching than Keri etc.
it's not interesting and worth watching though, it's pathetic.

Joelle.

05-10-2010, 06:37 PM

She messed up because she forgot part of the song, sure Katie might've forgotten more but they both still forgot part of the song, that's the principle at the end of the day.

And sure she might've done that...but hey as I've already said that's a damn sight more interesting and worth watching than Keri etc.

This is a talent show. I wouldn't say watching someone break down and make a huge drama out of nothing, i.e. Katie, was much more interesting than watching people sing well, i.e. Rebecca, Gamu, Treyc, Keri.

Jack_

05-10-2010, 06:38 PM

it's not interesting and worth watching though, it's pathetic.

You could easily apply that to Jedward but boy were they worth watching [and as I've already said in this thread, is probably the main reason why people were watching]. People love a controversial figure, someone that you either love or you hate, a 'marmite' figure. It's these people that pull in the viewers, not bores with good or average voices. Do you think the audition shows of all talent shows would be half as popular if they showed no sh!t or novelty acts? That's the main reason most people watch the Auditions...for entertainment. It lasts pretty much throughout the whole show, sure you can have a great voice but if you're dull and not worth watching, people just...aren't going to tune in. Cher is different to what we've ever had on XF [and is probably the most talked about/popular act so far this year], whilst Katie will divide opinion and will have people talking a hell of a lot more than say, Keri would've. Cheryl made the right choices.

Jack_

05-10-2010, 06:41 PM

This is a talent show.

But...she does have talent. Sure she has messed up 2/3 auditions but when she sung she could sing well. She also has the personality, the 'look', I imagine the stage presence [though I'll reserve judgement until the lives].

I wouldn't say watching someone break down and make a huge drama out of nothing, i.e. Katie, was much more interesting than watching people sing well, i.e. Rebecca, Gamu, Treyc, Keri.

It's all fine and dandy watching good singers, of course - but you've got to have some acts that create entertainment and put on a 'show' and have some personality. Otherwise the whole thing would just be dull! Sure, some people may watch but the large majority, as I have already said, wouldn't. The X Factor is like one big drama, and without the drama people wouldn't watch.

ChristmasNeeve

05-10-2010, 06:46 PM

Cher in particular is something we've never had on X Factor before, of course it's going to be interesting. She raps/sings - how is she going to take on Big Band Week? That's the kind of stuff I'm interested in. Someone like TreyC/Keri...not so interesting.

A personality can't be worked on with a mentor, really. You either have it or you don't. Bit like Rachel from last year, nice voice but dull as ***** to watch. And once she'd been pulled up on this she thought the best way forward was to copy Stacey Solomon's 'ditzy' personality - and it failed miserably, infact I think that's the week she left the show. It was laughable. You either have it or you don't.

That's a fair point, but the Live Shows will be the real test. If she messes up her words there then fair enough, then I'll reconsider my opinion on her, but right now [even if she has messed up before], I think she deserves her place for being a lot more interesting than the rest of the girls.

Don't forget Mary messed up her words at Judge's Houses - so it's not just Katie.

yes well I don't think Mary should be in the top 12 either!

Stephanie

05-10-2010, 06:51 PM

yes well I don't think Mary should be in the top 12 either!
me either :L

Joelle.

05-10-2010, 06:51 PM

But...she does have talent. Sure she has messed up 2/3 auditions but when she sung she could sing well. She also has the personality, the 'look', I imagine the stage presence [though I'll reserve judgement until the lives].

It's all fine and dandy watching good singers, of course - but you've got to have some acts that create entertainment and put on a 'show' and have some personality. Otherwise the whole thing would just be dull! Sure, some people may watch but the large majority, as I have already said, wouldn't. The X Factor is like one big drama, and without the drama people wouldn't watch.

I suppose it depends what you enjoy watching. Some people like the auditions more than the serious stuff because they like watching people make fools of themselves etc. and the light hearted acts. Some people prefer the live shows because they like watching people develop as singers and show off the real talent. Some people enjoy both. I personally prefer the serious stuff.

Twilight

05-10-2010, 06:58 PM

Gamu was hardly amazing and she was dull. so just get over it, she wasn't picked, big deal.

ChristmasNeeve

05-10-2010, 07:00 PM

Gamu was hardly amazing and she was dull. so just get over it, she wasn't picked, big deal.

I think she had an amazing voice. I think people wouldn't be as annoyed if Katie and Cher hadn't messed their auditions up so badly

Twilight

05-10-2010, 07:01 PM

I think she had an amazing voice. I think people wouldn't be as annoyed if Katie and Cher hadn't messed their auditions up so badly

I agree that it pissed me off when they put Katie in, but Cher was sick, so i think she should have another chance.

Braden

05-10-2010, 07:02 PM

Did she? Well I did say 'think', not that I knew. Didn't work for long though did it? She was out the following week.

Of course they are...I've never said they're not allowed them, I'm just saying that A) it's not just a singing competition and B) in my opinion, Katie is more worthy of a place than some of the others mentioned.

I personally think Gamu is one-dimensional.

Let people have opinions then.

And you still put that it failed regardless to how you knew what week she left, it obviously wasn't. The week she did it she had the msot votes, when she left it the week after, and was herself again...that's when she left.

Jack_

05-10-2010, 07:02 PM

yes well I don't think Mary should be in the top 12 either!

Point taken :p

Though the Over 28's were pretty awful anyway, I think Louis picked the right three - they stood out the most, apart from John - he's pretty dull and I don't remember him at all apart from Judge's Houses.

I suppose it depends what you enjoy watching. Some people like the auditions more than the serious stuff because they like watching people make fools of themselves etc. and the light hearted acts. Some people prefer the live shows because they like watching people develop as singers and show off the real talent. Some people enjoy both. I personally prefer the serious stuff.

I also prefer the Live Shows. Judge's Houses onward is my favourite part of the show, the Auditions bore me after a while. But the fact is I still like some entertainment, just entertainment that has talent, so i.e Cher and Katie. If it's a choice between a talented bore [Keri etc] or a talented entertainer [Cher, Katie], I'll chose the latter. And they are the types that deserve a place in the Live Shows...because they're the ones people will be talking about and tuning in for.

Gamu was hardly amazing and she was dull. so just get over it, she wasn't picked, big deal.

:love:

ChristmasNeeve

05-10-2010, 07:05 PM

I agree that it pissed me off when they put Katie in, but Cher was sick, so i think she should have another chance.

well, she was offered a chance to come back later which she refused...........

Jack_

05-10-2010, 07:05 PM

Let people have opinions then.

I am...I just said that. I'm just justifying my opinion and debating my point, the others are doing the same with their opinions and points. I'm not telling anyone they have to like Katie/Cher etc, but I'm just saying why in my opinion they are worthy of their place.

And you still put that it failed regardless to how you knew what week she left, it obviously wasn't. The week she did it she had the msot votes, when she left it the week after, and was herself again...that's when she left.

I could've sworn she continued it for two weeks...but oh well. Fair enough it didn't fail, my mistake...but she was still pretty dull aside from that [hence why she had to act like Stacey].

ChristmasNeeve

05-10-2010, 07:07 PM

Point taken :p

Though the Over 28's were pretty awful anyway, I think Louis picked the right three - they stood out the most, apart from John - he's pretty dull and I don't remember him at all apart from Judge's Houses.

I also prefer the Live Shows. Judge's Houses onward is my favourite part of the show, the Auditions bore me after a while. But the fact is I still like some entertainment, just entertainment that has talent, so i.e Cher and Katie. If it's a choice between a talented bore [Keri etc] or a talented entertainer [Cher, Katie], I'll chose the latter. And they are the types that deserve a place in the Live Shows...because they're the ones people will be talking about and tuning in for.

:love:

I didn't remember John either but I loved him at judges house. I would have had him, Storm and Elesha in the overs but lets be honest none of them are contenders anyway

Joelle.

05-10-2010, 07:08 PM

I didn't remember John either but I loved him at judges house. I would have had him, Storm and Elesha in the overs but lets be honest none of them are contenders anyway

I remember Wagner but for all the wrong reasons :joker:

Merry Mockmas

05-10-2010, 07:09 PM

I remember Wagner but for all the wrong reasons :joker:

yeah i cant get him out of my head because of that fake account.:joker:

ChristmasNeeve

05-10-2010, 07:10 PM

I remember Wagner but for all the wrong reasons :joker:

lmao, yes well I think everyone remembers Wagner!

Zippy

05-10-2010, 07:35 PM

ChristmasNeeve

05-10-2010, 07:42 PM

Merry Mockmas

05-10-2010, 07:42 PM

LMAO at all you on this thread yapping like Cheryl is up in court or summat!

She made a decision....one which MANY of us agree with. Just GET OVER IT you crybabies. Not everybody rates Gamu either so quit talking like she has spectacular talent. She doesnt!

Just a pathetic excuse to spit hate at Cheryl. She doesnt have to justify her choice to a bunch of haters on internet forums. Most people dont care either way truthfully. As always, its just a loud few making lots of noise.

Gamu isnt even as good as the other girls who lost out.

actually the people sticking up for cheryl are a few people on the internet forums that fancy her.

and most people are annoyed at cheryl otherwise her hate wouldnt have been the 2nd most trending on twitter and there wouldnt be people on facebook still being really annoyed that there still joining the gamu should have gone through campaign.

Zippy

05-10-2010, 08:23 PM

actually the people sticking up for cheryl are a few people on the internet forums that fancy her.

and most people are annoyed at cheryl otherwise her hate wouldnt have been the 2nd most trending on twitter and there wouldnt be people on facebook still being really annoyed that there still joining the gamu should have gone through campaign.

Personally Im neither interested or impressed by whats trending on twitter sh!tter.

Its just meaningless piffpaff. Internet geekoids will join any stupid campaign if its publicised enough. Do you seriously think all those on the Gamu petition really give a toss about her? Like hell. Just bandwagon jumping and trying to get a dig at Cheryl and the Xfactor producers.

And its not about sticking up for Cheryl. She doesnt need defending in the slightest as far as Im concerned. It was her decision not yours and she has EVERY RIGHT to follow her own judgement and instincts. She's the one that has to work with these artists at the end of the day.

It actually irritates me to see some Cheryl fans pleading her case because they really dont need to justify jacksh!t.

Merry Mockmas

05-10-2010, 09:28 PM

Personally Im neither interested or impressed by whats trending on twitter sh!tter.

Its just meaningless piffpaff. Internet geekoids will join any stupid campaign if its publicised enough. Do you seriously think all those on the Gamu petition really give a toss about her? Like hell. Just bandwagon jumping and trying to get a dig at Cheryl and the Xfactor producers.

And its not about sticking up for Cheryl. She doesnt need defending in the slightest as far as Im concerned. It was her decision not yours and she has EVERY RIGHT to follow her own judgement and instincts. She's the one that has to work with these artists at the end of the day.

It actually irritates me to see some Cheryl fans pleading her case because they really dont need to justify jacksh!t.

yeah they shouldnt when cheryl put 2 singers through that sang or in chers case rapped ****, and they forgot there words.

Marsh.

05-10-2010, 09:43 PM

The argument that Gamu is a bit reserved, quiet and more boring than the others is crap. Cher "crackhead" Lloyd is hardly life and soul and Katie is a spoilt arrogant cow. Hardly qualities I enjoy from a performer.
And didn't Leona Lewis become the most successful X Factor winner and I still haven't seen a shred of a personality.

Zippy

05-10-2010, 09:46 PM

yeah they shouldnt when cheryl put 2 singers through that sang or in chers case rapped ****, and they forgot there words.
Yeah yeah so youve said..a million times. :sleep::sleep::sleep:
Gamu was hardly amazing and she was dull. so just get over it, she wasn't picked, big deal.

Twilight has spoken!

Stand back and behold.

joeysteele

05-10-2010, 10:19 PM

How on earth for any reason can you set up a competition to decide finalists for live shows to the public,have auditions first, then boot camp to sort out the people who get the final chance to really shine by showing their determination and talent by having them go to the judges house to perform singly.
In other words the last chance to shine in order to prove that the auditions was not an end to the talent but the start of the talent.but...

Then, to have 2 people with places in that final at stake, not performing, not completing a song and refusing the chance to return and try again.

Come on, if you were going for a job,and you were asked questions, you answer only a few or in Chers case even none, would you get the job, of course not.
Cheryl made a decision on nothing she saw at the house,there was no drive, energy ,enthusiasm, singing, remembering the words and no performance.

She made the wrong choices and wrong decisions,that's why the public are furious because they could see what Cheryl couldn't and that is that Cher and Katie are useless no hopers.

setanta

05-10-2010, 10:21 PM

Gamu, Keri and TreyC were all great. Feel sorry for them.

Merry Mockmas

05-10-2010, 10:30 PM

How on earth for any reason can you set up a competition to decide finalists for live shows to the public,have auditions first, then boot camp to sort out the people who get the final chance to really shine by showing their determination and talent by having them go to the judges house to perform singly.
In other words the last chance to shine in order to prove that the auditions was a start not an end to the talent.

Then, to have 2 people with places in that final at stake, not performing, not completing a song and refusing the chance to return and try again.
Come on, if you were going for a job,and you were asked questions, you answer only a few or in Chers case even none, would you get the job, of course not.
Cheryl made a decision on nothing she saw at the house,there was no drive, energy ,enthusiasm, singing, remembering the words and no performance.

She made the wronng choices and wrong decisions,that's why the public are furious because they could see what Cheryl couldn't and that is that Cher and Katie are useless no hopers.

agreed.

Zippy

05-10-2010, 10:30 PM

She made the wronng choices and wrong decisions,that's why the public are furious

Oh plz. The public? what, all of them? pmsl

There is no wrong decision. Its about different tastes and opinions. Talent and potential are not an exact science and no artist on the planet is universally liked or enjoyed.

Gamu is out. FFS get over it. So much fuss over such an average and funny looking little thing.

Merry Mockmas

05-10-2010, 10:33 PM

Oh plz. The public? what, all of them? pmsl

There is no wrong decision. Its about different tastes and opinions. Talent and potential are not an exact science and no artist on the planet is universally liked or enjoyed.

Gamu is out. FFS get over it. So much fuss over such an average and funny looking little thing.

how can there be an opinion on something when they sang **** and forgot there words?:conf:

joeysteele

05-10-2010, 10:41 PM

I repect totally your dedication to Cheryl Zippy, but a large number of the public have complained officially at Cheryl's choices and when people are that angry they have to be taken notice of, also the majority of views I have read on here all agree with that element of the public.

Of course its not all the public complaining but it is going to be a publicly voted in series so if they have felt that angry to complain then it shows far more determination from the public to be fair and get the right people in the live shows, than Cheryl has shown and more to the point far more determination than either Katie or Cher put in to get to the finals.
You cant in a singing competition ever justify putting in 2 people to the finals who neither sang or performed a song right through at the final hurdle.

Surely that cannot be a rational or right decision from anyone. to put them through.

Zippy

05-10-2010, 10:51 PM

Surely that cannot be a rational or right decision from anyone. to put them through.

who gives a toss? Its a TV show. We're not picking a new Prime minister.

The very idea that Gamu is some kind of special talent that deserves a national outcry is just hilarious to me.

Dull personality, funny looks and an average voice. Thats MY opinion and its as good as anybody elses!

And move on. Youre clinging to wreck thats sank already.

Joelle.

05-10-2010, 10:54 PM

06-10-2010, 12:47 AM

I'm sorry Jack, your arguments are well thought out but totally misguided. Who are you to say that any of those girls are 'bores'? We are only shown what Simon wants us to see. Why is it we think Katie and Cher are interesting in comparison to those other girls? They got interviewed and given more air time. I don't buy that paper thin excuse as a reason that Katie and Cher deserved a place in the live shows over the others. Katie has a record deal, and she messed up her song for the 2nd time in three auditions. Cher cried her way into getting picked. Gamu interested me. She was not 'a bore'.

Marsh.

06-10-2010, 01:01 AM

I can't believe someone actually said Gamu was a "funny looking thing" in comparison to Cher Lloyd who looks like she's preparing for a role in Trainspotting 2 and Katie Waisel who's more suited to a Tim Burton movie surely. Funny looking? Hardly.

Merry Mockmas

06-10-2010, 02:13 PM

ChristmasNeeve

06-10-2010, 02:15 PM

HBB1508

06-10-2010, 02:24 PM

:laugh2:

I agree though, I thought Gamu was adorable

I agree too - I nearly fell off my chair when she wasn't put through.

ChristmasNeeve

06-10-2010, 02:26 PM

I agree too - I nearly fell off my chair when she wasn't put through.

yeah, looks like it may be over her visa now though, even still I would have put TreyC and Kerri in before Cher and Katie

HBB1508

06-10-2010, 02:29 PM

yeah, looks like it may be over her visa now though, even still I would have put TreyC and Kerri in before Cher and Katie

That's a shame as I'm sure the visa issued could have been sorted. Though I agree anyone through but those two - in past years if you fluffed your words that would have been an end to it.

ChristmasNeeve

06-10-2010, 02:31 PM

That's a shame as I'm sure the visa issued could have been sorted. Though I agree anyone through but those two - in past years if you fluffed your words that would have been an end to it.

and rightly so as well, it is a competition after all, performing well should be rewarded and vice versa

Zippy

06-10-2010, 02:37 PM

:laugh2:

I agree though, I thought Gamu was adorable

Well look at my siggy then! :xyxwave:

ChristmasNeeve

06-10-2010, 02:44 PM

Well look at my siggy then! :xyxwave:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu90/vanessa68_2009/Macros%20and%20gifs/10zr4li.gif

In the Drunk Tank

06-10-2010, 02:57 PM

She's getting deported now.

Zippy

06-10-2010, 02:58 PM

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ChristmasNeeve

06-10-2010, 03:00 PM

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http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/Nascarfan3824/Animated%20GIF/Slap.gif

Zippy

06-10-2010, 03:08 PM

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/Nascarfan3824/Animated%20GIF/Slap.gif

Like, whatever....
http://randomfunnypicture.com/wp2/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/nom-nom-nom1.gif

ChristmasNeeve

06-10-2010, 03:15 PM

http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb411/mygleekinspiration/GIFs%20made%20my%20me/Jayma_Loser.gif

Zippy

06-10-2010, 03:26 PM

Niamh's trying to draw me into a GIF war now.

I shall show restraint and class. Hopefully she will look and learn from me!

ChristmasNeeve

06-10-2010, 03:32 PM

Niamh's trying to draw me into a GIF war now.

I shall show restraint and class. Hopefully she will look and learn from me!

I'll take that as a victory then:D

http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx302/kerrykhat/gifs/003pzhw1.gif

Zippy

06-10-2010, 03:39 PM

I'll take that as a victory then:D

http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx302/kerrykhat/gifs/003pzhw1.gif

Ill give you this little battle...as a head start. You'll need it.

But the war is not over. Oh no. Be scared, little girl.

http://www.gifninja.com/Workspace/1385d777-5c39-497a-b940-23e11a3e5a75/output.gif

ChristmasNeeve

06-10-2010, 03:40 PM

Ill give you this little battle...as a head start. You'll need it.

But the war is not over. Oh no. Be scared, little girl.

http://www.gifninja.com/Workspace/1385d777-5c39-497a-b940-23e11a3e5a75/output.gif

*hides*

In the Drunk Tank

06-10-2010, 03:45 PM

A mod ignoring GIF etiquette :nono:

:joker:

ChristmasNeeve

06-10-2010, 03:47 PM

A mod ignoring GIF etiquette :nono:

:joker:

*stays hidden*

Zippy

06-10-2010, 03:48 PM

A mod ignoring GIF etiquette :nono:

:joker:

Yeah she needs to ban herself now!

ChristmasNeeve

06-10-2010, 03:50 PM

Yeah she needs to ban herself now!

aw *bans self* :bawling:

Zippy

06-10-2010, 03:52 PM

aw *bans self* :bawling:

I doubt you'd know how.

Took you 2 weeks to find the TiBB staff toilets!

ChristmasNeeve

06-10-2010, 03:54 PM

I doubt you'd know how.

Took you 2 weeks to find the TiBB staff toilets!

I'm doing a search for that member "self" right now bitch, can't seem to find her though:shocked:

midlandman

07-10-2010, 08:37 AM

can we stop ****ing talking bout gamu

robb

07-10-2010, 10:57 AM

ChristmasNeeve

07-10-2010, 11:00 AM

As much as I think two of Cheryl's choices were diabolical, based on the 'house' performances and to some extent (Katie) beforehand, she may well have been thinking along the lines of 'we already have Leona and Alexandra, we don't need/ WON'T GET another big ballad/diva winner'. On paper it should have been Rebecca,Treyc and Gamu as the final 3. But maybe Cheryl was being a little more 'flexible' with her thinking........or was she just pushed that way by Mr. Cowell? Who knows......

I'm convinced Katie knows someone who's pulling a few strings for her. I can't understand how a person could mess up 2 out 3 of her auditions and still make it on to the live shows. Not only that but break the rules by already having a recording contract and making that magically disappear too hhhmmmm