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setanta
21-10-2010, 02:59 PM
I mean, like Nicolo or not, the simple fact is that she ruined him with that song and those hideous glasses, and she choose a ridiculous song for Aiden last weekend when any normal person would realise that he wasn't capable of singing it after rehearsals, plus she's turned Matt into a one trick pony, continually giving him high pitched songs in an attempt to highlight his falsetto. She's just extremely dull in her decisions. And don't get me started on how she treated the two Rachel's in past series'.

Jack_
21-10-2010, 03:06 PM
She ruined Nicolo, yes. Not sure about the others.

She's a very good Judge [well, in terms of the constructive criticism she gives] on the whole though, not sure about a mentor.

Zippy
21-10-2010, 03:07 PM
I agree.

Iceman
21-10-2010, 03:07 PM
I agree good judge, but not a good mentor.....

Vicky.
21-10-2010, 03:07 PM
Best judge, but bad mentor. She doesnt know what songs suit her acts, or doesnt care.

red
21-10-2010, 03:09 PM
yup and looks like matt will really struggle with his song this week...:bawling:
"I'm not convinced of my song choice this weekend. But I'm going to try my best to put in a good performance."http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s103/the-x-factor/news/a283450/cardle-press-have-written-some-rubbish.html

setanta
21-10-2010, 03:10 PM
She's obviously given him another Chipmunk song then.

Niamh.
21-10-2010, 03:13 PM
Nicolo was never going to get far anyway. I really liked Matts song last week so I will reserve judgement till then. She also picked a fantastic song for Aiden the week before

MissKittyFantastico
21-10-2010, 03:14 PM
She messed up with Nicolo no doubt about it, he actually had a decent voice and giving him Gaga to sing was just stupid. I actually like the songs she's given Matt, playing to his strengths of singing in falsetto, but I hope she doesn't do that all the way through and gives him some variety. Aiden was fantastic the first week, last week not so good, but I think it was nerves on his part more than anything.

I've heard nothing but good things about her as a mentor actually, her acts never have anything bad to say about her, and she spends the most time with them. And as a judge she's the best too, the only one to speak her mind, although Louis has been better this year so far.

Zippy
21-10-2010, 03:15 PM
Nicolo was never going to get far anyway. I really liked Matts song last week so I will reserve judgement till then. She also picked a fantastic song for Aiden the week before

I actually keep thinking you are Zee posting. Its creepy.

setanta
21-10-2010, 03:16 PM
I actually keep thinking you are Zee posting. Its creepy.

Snap.

joeysteele
21-10-2010, 03:17 PM
Dannii is good all round, a fair judge who gives constructive comments. Nicolo was a hard one to work out what to do with, he was by no means the worst on the first live show.

Dannii definately is a good judge and mentor and maybe the song choices are not always right but then they aren't for all the other mentors either.

Niamh.
21-10-2010, 03:21 PM
I actually keep thinking you are Zee posting. Its creepy.

maybe I am..................................:joker:

Niamh.
21-10-2010, 03:22 PM
Snap.

:laugh2:

setanta
21-10-2010, 03:23 PM
:laugh2:

?

Livia
21-10-2010, 03:28 PM
I don't know how they have the cheek to have Dannii as a judge OR a mentor. Can anyone actually hum anything she's ever done?

Niamh.
21-10-2010, 03:28 PM
?

it's a little smilie man laughing, laughter is the best medicine

setanta
21-10-2010, 03:30 PM
it's a little smilie man laughing, laughter is the best medicine

Yeah, I'm sure it is. Helps me whenever I'm on here anyway, that's for sure.

Niamh.
21-10-2010, 03:30 PM
Yeah, I'm sure it is. Helps me whenever I'm on here anyway, that's for sure.

That's good to hear:hugesmile:

setanta
21-10-2010, 03:32 PM
That's good to hear:hugesmile:

I'm not biting. Enjoy your giggles.

Niamh.
21-10-2010, 03:34 PM
I'm not biting. Enjoy your giggles.

eh ok then, I have no idea what you're on about though

setanta
21-10-2010, 03:34 PM
eh ok then, I have no idea what you're on about though

:hugesmile:

Jords
21-10-2010, 03:36 PM
She messed up with Nicolo no doubt about it, he actually had a decent voice and giving him Gaga to sing was just stupid. I actually like the songs she's given Matt, playing to his strengths of singing in falsetto, but I hope she doesn't do that all the way through and gives him some variety. Aiden was fantastic the first week, last week not so good, but I think it was nerves on his part more than anything.

I've heard nothing but good things about her as a mentor actually, her acts never have anything bad to say about her, and she spends the most time with them. And as a judge she's the best too, the only one to speak her mind, although Louis has been better this year so far.

Agree with you Michelle! She did a bad job with Nicolo but lets face it, they have all muck it up from time to time.

Vicky.
21-10-2010, 03:36 PM
Back on topic anyways...I think Nicolo probably actually wanted to do that song. I am gutted he is out, was one of my faves...but to put all the blame on Dannii is a little unfair I think. Though she DOES sometimes make absolutely atrocious choices.

Niamh.
21-10-2010, 03:37 PM
Back on topic anyways...I think Nicolo probably actually wanted to do that song. I am gutted he is out, was one of my faves...but to put all the blame on Dannii is a little unfair I think. Though she DOES sometimes make absolutely atrocious choices.

ew he was one of your favourites? he was crap, no song could have saved him

Vicky.
21-10-2010, 03:38 PM
ew he was one of your favourites? he was crap, no song could have saved him

I really loved him. there was just something about him...you know?

Jack_
21-10-2010, 03:40 PM
ew he was one of your favourites? he was crap, no song could have saved him

He was far from crap. He had a nice voice, great personality/attitude and was very intriguing...

MissKittyFantastico
21-10-2010, 03:41 PM
I didn't like Nicolo at all, thought he had a bit of a diva attitude tbh, but he did have a fairly decent voice, he was good at judge's houses, but he looked like an idiot on the live show. Noone should ever try and sing a Gaga song, it just doesn't work.

Niamh.
21-10-2010, 03:42 PM
I really loved him. there was just something about him...you know?

not really no

Vicky.
21-10-2010, 03:42 PM
not really no

Well you clearly need some new ears. And eyes.

Z
21-10-2010, 03:43 PM
She's a great judge, just not all that great with the mentoring. And as for whoever said her acts don't have a problem with her - do you not remember the song and dance Rachel Hylton made about Dannii's mentoring?!

Niamh.
21-10-2010, 03:43 PM
Well you clearly need some new ears. And eyes.

he was the worst in his group including the wild card

Vicky.
21-10-2010, 03:44 PM
he was the worst in his group including the wild card

Well obviously Aiden and Matt are leagues ahead of him. Paije I think...isnt really that good. I would have preferred Paije to be the first boy out

Niamh.
21-10-2010, 03:46 PM
Well obviously Aiden and Matt are leagues ahead of him. Paije I think...isnt really that good. I would have preferred Paije to be the first boy out

Paije has a better voice than Nicolo, he was miles better at judges houses but he hasn't really shone on the live shows at all

Beastie
21-10-2010, 03:47 PM
Nicolo was robbed.

MissKittyFantastico
21-10-2010, 03:47 PM
She's a great judge, just not all that great with the mentoring. And as for whoever said her acts don't have a problem with her - do you not remember the song and dance Rachel Hylton made about Dannii's mentoring?!

Rachel herself has said that that was blown all out of proportion and that she had no right to complain about anything, saying she was acting like a diva basically and she regrets it now.

Vicky.
21-10-2010, 03:47 PM
Paije has a better voice than Nicolo, he was miles better at judges houses but he hasn't really shone on the live shows at all

But Nicolo was also hot :(

/shallow

LidlSistA
21-10-2010, 03:48 PM
Some of her song choices are pants but shes not the only one guilty of that

Beastie
21-10-2010, 03:48 PM
I liked Nicolo doing Lady Gaga actually. Well problem was it didn't really show off his vocals. I hope Danni's other 3 boys do well.

Vicky.
21-10-2010, 03:51 PM
I liked Nicolo doing Lady Gaga actually. Well problem was it didn't really show off his vocals. I hope Danni's other 3 boys do well.

yeah, his vocals werent great in that song...but it was a fun performance. And boy, did he OWN that stage :D

Niamh.
21-10-2010, 03:52 PM
But Nicolo was also hot :(

/shallow

ew no, Matt is though

Vicky.
21-10-2010, 03:53 PM
ew no, Matt is though

Nah, Aiden ftw. In terms of hotness :D

Smithy
21-10-2010, 03:54 PM
Nicolo was never going to get far anyway. I really liked Matts song last week so I will reserve judgement till then. She also picked a fantastic song for Aiden the week before

+ best judge

Niamh.
21-10-2010, 03:57 PM
Nah, Aiden ftw. In terms of hotness :D

he's not bad but a bit too twitchy

Beastie
21-10-2010, 03:57 PM
yeah, his vocals werent great in that song...but it was a fun performance. And boy, did he OWN that stage :D

Yeah! There was quite a few different and quirky performances in week 1 which I liked. I still can't believe Nicolo got the least amount of votes :( waaaaaaaaaaaaaah!:bawling:

Vicky.
21-10-2010, 03:59 PM
he's not bad but a bit too twitchy

The twitching can be hot at times. he looks close to climax when he sings :laugh2:

But nah, in all seriousness, I think thats just nerves...it will chill out

Yeah! There was quite a few different and quirky performances in week 1 which I liked. I still can't believe Nicolo got the least amount of votes :( waaaaaaaaaaaaaah!:bawling:
I actually couldnt believe it. I was sat shouting at the telly...say nicolo say nicolo. Then he was in the bottom and I though, the judges MUST save him. The he went automatically :(

Niamh.
21-10-2010, 04:03 PM
The twitching can be hot at times. he looks close to climax when he sings :laugh2:

But nah, in all seriousness, I think thats just nerves...it will chill out


I actually couldnt believe it. I was sat shouting at the telly...say nicolo say nicolo. Then he was in the bottom and I though, the judges MUST save him. The he went automatically :(

:laugh2: *****

Tom4784
21-10-2010, 04:07 PM
She's very underrated, if you want a rubbish mentor then look no further then Cheryl. She was completely lucky last year and it was Simon's choice of song that made Alexandra a competitor in her year. The woman can't pick good songs to save her life half the time. Danni's a lot more on the mark and generally more consistant.

The worst is Louis though, the man's stuck in the 90's. Any time he's ever got to the final it's been out of luck of having the favourite (Shayne) or because he had an act that he couldn't **** up if he tried (JLS).

Simon's the best mentor really with Dannii as a close second while she's easily the best judge.

Smithy
21-10-2010, 04:09 PM
She's very underrated, if you want a rubbish mentor then look no further then Cheryl. She was completely lucky last year and it was Simon's choice of song that made Alexandra a competitor in her year. The woman can't pick good songs to save her life half the time. Danni's a lot more on the mark and generally more consistant.

The worst is Louis though, the man's stuck in the 90's. Any time he's ever got to the final it's been out of luck of having the favourite (Shayne) or because he had an act that he couldn't **** up if he tried (JLS).

Simon's the best mentor really with Dannii as a close second while she's easily the best judge.

:worship:

I agree with all of this

Z
21-10-2010, 04:13 PM
Simon's by far the best mentor; Dannii's the best judge.

chiptek
21-10-2010, 04:15 PM
i love dannii shes my favorite judge, and i think shes a good mentor but i agree the song choices havent been so great. we'll see i guess

hotleggs
21-10-2010, 04:17 PM
cheryl is rubbish

robb
21-10-2010, 04:41 PM
Always thought Cowell was a decent judge, but this year more than ever he has his favourites, and, apart from NO Direction,they are in Cheryl's category. I like Dannii, but a perfect mentor she isn't. Louis...oh dear. And Cheryl....lucky lucky lucky. Her contract says she cannot have the oldies or the groups lol.

joeysteele
21-10-2010, 05:37 PM
Also no mater what the events a year or so after the results, Dannii is also the 'only' judge and mentor to ever have had both winner and runner up in any X Factor and from the start of that particular X Factor series few people would have had Rhydian and Leon Jackson anywhere near their top 2 of that series but she got them there.

Vicky.
21-10-2010, 05:40 PM
Also no mater what the events a year or so after the results, Dannii is also the 'only' judge and mentor to ever have had both winner and runner up in any X Factor and from the start of that particular X Factor series few people would have had Rhydian and Leon Jackson anywhere near their top 2 of that series but she got them there.

I can take Leon...but Rhydian?

I think most would have placed him at least top 3. Most would even have predicted him as the winner

setanta
21-10-2010, 05:42 PM
Rhydian would have won only for her toning him down to absolutely nothing. I'm telling you, she hasn't got a clue when it comes to song choices and styling.

Jack_
21-10-2010, 05:50 PM
Rhydian would have won only for her toning him down to absolutely nothing. I'm telling you, she hasn't got a clue when it comes to song choices and styling.

Nah, Rhydian lost because Leon got the 'cute' vote, unfortunately.

setanta
21-10-2010, 05:52 PM
Nah, Rhydian lost because Leon got the 'cute' vote, unfortunately.

She went mad with Go West and then decided to turn him far too serious, and that's not why he had gained popularity. He should have sang Phantom of the Opera on Final night but she opted for a safe, kinda drippy number. I mean, he sang Somewhere beautifully, but he'll be remembered for the crazy numbers.

'Conor
21-10-2010, 05:59 PM
shes good at judging i think

Jack_
21-10-2010, 06:03 PM
She went mad with Go West and then decided to turn him far too serious, and that's not why he had gained popularity. He should have sang Phantom of the Opera on Final night but she opted for a safe, kinda drippy number. I mean, he sang Somewhere beautifully, but he'll be remembered for the crazy numbers.

That's not entirely true, because during the Final [well, that Final in particular], the contestant's chose which song to perform again.

Scroll down to the '15th December 2007 (Final)' bit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_X_Factor_%28UK_series_4%29

His first song was a Christmas one [O Holy Night], the second a duet [You Raise Me Up] and the third his favourite from the series [Somewhere].

GiRTh
21-10-2010, 06:07 PM
I agree good judge, but not a good mentor.....
This.

Zippy
21-10-2010, 07:07 PM
Rhydian was a creepy thing. It was dull vs freak as far as Im concerned.

The way he totally changed his personality from audition stages to the final shows was just so phoney. Then theres his obsession with hiding his gingerness. Sad.

Beastie
21-10-2010, 07:11 PM
http://www.unrealitytv.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/same_difference-galleries-xfactor.jpg

Locke.
21-10-2010, 07:15 PM
Messed up majorly with Nicolo.

Hit and miss so far with Aiden.

Perfect song for Matt last weekend, not sure about the first weekend. He managed to just about pull it off imo, and it was stupid to give him a song like that in the first week.

In previous series' she has been crap with most of her acts.

MeMyselfAndI
21-10-2010, 07:19 PM
Loved Matts and Aidens song choices so far and thoose are who i care about :love:

Tom
21-10-2010, 07:32 PM
Dannii is a good mentor but only when it suits and its usually when you can tell she genuinely likes the contestants e.g. Leon in her first year (she completely shafted one of the guys in her category and Rhydian managed to get by on his talent). In series 5 she hated Rachel and gave her bad choices to the point where Rachel started picking herself and she didn't get Ruth right until about week 6 or 7. She did well last year though

Lee.
21-10-2010, 07:49 PM
http://www.unrealitytv.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/same_difference-galleries-xfactor.jpg

*shudders*

Tom
21-10-2010, 08:20 PM
She went mad with Go West and then decided to turn him far too serious, and that's not why he had gained popularity. He should have sang Phantom of the Opera on Final night but she opted for a safe, kinda drippy number. I mean, he sang Somewhere beautifully, but he'll be remembered for the crazy numbers.

Go West was in disco week, that was always going to be tricky no matter what he was doing

Rhydian was also portrayed as the villain and a stubborn few wouldn't have changed their minds and voted against him in the final 2

I agree about Phantom of the Opera, I wasn't a Rhydian fan but that was one of the best performances ever on XF and very underrated

BB_Eye
21-10-2010, 08:33 PM
Go West was in disco week, that was always going to be tricky no matter what he was doing

Rhydian was also portrayed as the villain and a stubborn few wouldn't have changed their minds and voted against him in the final 2

I agree about Phantom of the Opera, I wasn't a Rhydian fan but that was one of the best performances ever on XF and very underrated
"Get the Party Started" was my personal Rhydian highlight. :D

fruit_cake
22-10-2010, 08:46 AM
I like Danni IMO she's the most genuine of the judges and I think she genuinely cares about her acts, and its not about her own collosal ego like it is with the others.. Rhydian was brilliant, I still can't believe he didn't win.. I can't even remember who Leon is, how on earth did he win??? that is a true mystery!!

Lee.
22-10-2010, 08:50 AM
I like Danni IMO she's the most genuine of the judges and I think she genuinely cares about her acts, and its not about her own collosal ego like it is with the others.. Rhydian was brilliant, I still can't believe he didn't win.. I can't even remember who Leon is, how on earth did he win??? that is a true mystery!!

The last time I heard of Leon Jackson, he was appearing in one of my local nightclubs! I can't believe he won over Rhydian either!

fruit_cake
22-10-2010, 08:53 AM
Sing once again for me....
CSUuOlsEDfU

Imagine Leon singing the same thing!!! :joker:

Lee.
22-10-2010, 08:58 AM
Sing once again for me....
CSUuOlsEDfU

Imagine Leon singing the same thing!!! :joker:

:cheer:
That for me, is one of the best XF performances... ever!

And, no Leon is not in the same class and could never sing a song like that!

:)

fruit_cake
22-10-2010, 09:04 AM
Sharon didn't like him, look at 1:25.. I reckon she's thinking aaaah he's good but I hate him how annoying

Lee.
22-10-2010, 09:07 AM
Sharon didn't like him, look at 1:25.. I reckon she's thinking aaaah he's good but I hate him how annoying

God, that woman can sneer!

I have to admit that I didn'tlike him at first (not his voice, just him) but I loved him by the end. I'm glad he's been such a success since then

Tom
22-10-2010, 07:27 PM
Sharon didn't like him, look at 1:25.. I reckon she's thinking aaaah he's good but I hate him how annoying

Sharon had the worst category in the history of the show that year, I've never seen anyone balls up so badly on that scale. 2 acts in the bottom 2 in week 1 with the other kicked out after week 2, left with one act who couldn't sing and noone voted for :joker:

God, that woman can sneer!

I have to admit that I didn'tlike him at first (not his voice, just him) but I loved him by the end. I'm glad he's been such a success since then

He's been dropped