Simons gone mental

[nanaimo]

What has happened to Simon, "The best performance of the season" and no he wasn't talking about Rebbeca but the mediocre Cher, not bad but not great either, seems to be the pet of the X factor this year.
Another ole chestnut of simons this year is "liked you last week, loved you this week" the man is getting very predictable, i used to value his opinion and he often said what was going through my head about performances but not anymore, he is starting to annoy me.
The talent on the show never get the comments mini-cheryl gets which in my opinion is unfair and pure favourtism and blatant favourtism by Cheryl, will Cher the chav be known in 10 years i think not, will Rebecca, a good chance yes.
It's time the judges were fair and tell it how it is and forget the sniff of money all the time and one more thing treat all guests equally, that was really rude of danni and cheryl.

[fruit_cake]

'look'... Simon lost all his credibility when he kept Jedward over Lucie

crap last year.. even crapper this year..

[nanaimo]

'look'... Simon lost all his credibility when he kept Jedward over Lucie

crap last year.. even crapper this year..

Totally agree

[joeysteele]

He has also cooled his support for Aiden too and that is likely because Ms Cole is really getting at Aiden now too. Simon although he gets his digs at Cheryl in parts, he is well aware of the controversy as to her choices this year.

I am near sure the wild cards were done to save face for Cheryl.but then Gamu could not be in the shows anyway. Since then he has backed to the hilt her choice of Cher and every week except for this week,I have near reached for the sick bucket at his overhyping of Cher.

I too am tired of the liked you last week, loved you this week quote, its like he has lost his originality this year and I suspect it is partly to keep Ms Cole happier.No one else.

[joeysteele]

Well, JEDWARD are still massively in demand but where's Lucie,he made the right choice then.

[Lee.]

I completely agree with you OP.. Simon, to me has always been the speaker of sense, and I've always said, whether people like it or not, his opinion is usually bang on. But he is getting repetitive with his comments and I just CANNOT believe he told Cher that not only did she do the best performance of the night, but of "the whole season"??!! WTF? I don't think so Simon!
I actually don'tknow what he's playing at where Cher's concerned. I suspect after all the bad publicity regarding her mental health during Bootcamp etc, he did'nt want a Susan Boyle type breakdown again, plus the media circus to go along with it.. I think he's just trying to keep her sweet. (Probably Cheryl aswell)

[Tom4784]

I think it was one of the best performances of the series so far, She's far from the best singer but she went against everyone's expectations and hit it out of the park, she's got stage presence and that's something that can't be taught. It'll be her or Rebecca who wins it I think.

As for simon he's been playing a character for years, I don't really take him seriously.

[ChristmasNeeve]

I agree with everything you said OP. Yes she was good last week, I think the reason I liked it so much was because she wasn't utterly crap as usual but as you said Rebecca was a league ahead of her. I no longer listen to anything Simon says, tbh Dannii and even Louis are more honest than he is at this stage.

[Tom4784]

I agree with everything you said OP. Yes she was good last week, I think the reason I liked it so much was because she wasn't utterly crap as usual but as you said Rebecca was a league ahead of her. I no longer listen to anything Simon says, tbh Dannii and even Louis are more honest than he is at this stage.

I think Louis is the worst judge, I think it's high tiem to get rid of him now. All he does is make cringy and predictable digs at the other judges.

[ChristmasNeeve]

I think Louis is the worst judge, I think it's high tiem to get rid of him now. All he does is make cringy and predictable digs at the other judges.

They are cringy but they make me laugh!! Plus as cringy as they may be they're usually pretty spot on

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Well, JEDWARD are still massively in demand but where's Lucie,he made the right choice then.

correct


it is about demand and interest. No one wants to read a story about Lucie. fact.

[fruit_cake]

I'm not sure $imon has to do anything keep Cheryl sweet.. she's in luvvv and has him right in her sights already IMO.. I reckon he is trying to keep her sweet with CHERyl junior though... It's like one big happy CHERyl family already :joker:

[nanaimo]

aiden should not smile or pounce around the stage with gimmicks, thats not the kind of performer he is, maybe he is too indie for xfactor, but i guess michael stipe or jim morrison would have never got through the audition stage and i am not comparing them to aiden just intense performances, as i am on it Cherly did compare one direction to the beatles and aiden to elvis, cheryl **** and go read an Encyclopedia of rock because you don't have a clue .....

[Kazanne]

What has happened to Simon, "The best performance of the season" and no he wasn't talking about Rebbeca but the mediocre Cher, not bad but not great either, seems to be the pet of the X factor this year.
Another ole chestnut of simons this year is "liked you last week, loved you this week" the man is getting very predictable, i used to value his opinion and he often said what was going through my head about performances but not anymore, he is starting to annoy me.
The talent on the show never get the comments mini-cheryl gets which in my opinion is unfair and pure favourtism and blatant favourtism by Cheryl, will Cher the chav be known in 10 years i think not, will Rebecca, a good chance yes.
It's time the judges were fair and tell it how it is and forget the sniff of money all the time and one more thing treat all guests equally, that was really rude of danni and cheryl.

I like Simon and really trust his judging BUT that remark did make me think "EH,what's the matter with him"He does seem as though he really doesn't care this year,but that is probably understandable because people are spiteful and want to sabotage the X Factor this year (with the campaign for Wagner to win)and last year(Interfering with the Xfactor no 1),so maybe he has just given up and goes with the flow.

[Kazanne]

I completely agree with you OP.. Simon, to me has always been the speaker of sense, and I've always said, whether people like it or not, his opinion is usually bang on. But he is getting repetitive with his comments and I just CANNOT believe he told Cher that not only did she do the best performance of the night, but of "the whole season"??!! WTF? I don't think so Simon!
I actually don'tknow what he's playing at where Cher's concerned. I suspect after all the bad publicity regarding her mental health during Bootcamp etc, he did'nt want a Susan Boyle type breakdown again, plus the media circus to go along with it.. I think he's just trying to keep her sweet. (Probably Cheryl aswell)

Exactly my thoughts Happyland,he's probably given up a bit as these campaigns are just out to ruin the show,shame people are so spiteful just to prove the power of the vote,I can understand him,but I want the old Simon back.lol.

[Kazanne]

He has also cooled his support for Aiden too and that is likely because Ms Cole is really getting at Aiden now too. Simon although he gets his digs at Cheryl in parts, he is well aware of the controversy as to her choices this year.

I am near sure the wild cards were done to save face for Cheryl.but then Gamu could not be in the shows anyway. Since then he has backed to the hilt her choice of Cher and every week except for this week,I have near reached for the sick bucket at his overhyping of Cher.

I too am tired of the liked you last week, loved you this week quote, its like he has lost his originality this year and I suspect it is partly to keep Ms Cole happier.No one else.

I think he's just peed off with it all Joey,and I can undersatnd him really,the campaigns don't help at all.

[Lee.]

Exactly my thoughts Happyland,he's probably given up a bit as these campaigns are just out to ruin the show,shame people are so spiteful just to prove the power of the vote,I can understand him,but I want the old Simon back.lol.

He's still a sexpot though... :blush:

[ElProximo]

What has happened to Simon, "The best performance of the season" and no he wasn't talking about Rebbeca but the mediocre Cher, not bad but not great either, seems to be the pet of the X factor this year.


OP you are bang-on.

Over the last few years Simon has been a bit softer but that is not the problem here. He can be 'soft' but still tell the hard truth, be accurate and break the bad news.

No, this problem is something else. This is Simon seeing (correctly) a perfect recording artist payday in Cher. A perfect teen-pop hit-maker using a studio and some audio-engineering wizards and some slick music videos.
OK.
But instead of Simon (as we knew him) just blatantly stating this upfront we get Simon trying to convince us that she is truly magnificent and good in her own right in this competition.
Ugh.
Honestly, IF Simon just said all this outright "Cher, you are not great live on-stage but I hope you stay because you are a perfect recording artist" OK then!
I mean I'd respect Simon for just saying that and think it would actually bolster Cher.

But instead we all have to pretend along with this?
Like we don't know or what?

I WOULD expect this from the other judges but always Simon was the 'reality check' and balance.
Now what?

[Stephanie]

Well, JEDWARD are still massively in demand but where's Lucie,he made the right choice then.
lucie is mainly modelling now, she got signed by a good agency.

[joeysteele]

lucie is mainly modelling now, she got signed by a good agency.

Well great, if she no longer wants to be in the entertainment industry so has given up on that idea for modelling, fine, but its hardly comparable to the massive interest still in JEDWARD in the entertainment industry is it?

So to the choice of Simon choosing JEDWARD or Lucie, it is clear,especially from your post too, that he made the right choice then to save JEDWARD over her.

[joeysteele]

I think he's just peed off with it all Joey,and I can undersatnd him really,the campaigns don't help at all.

I have to agree, I always believed he knew what he was talking about and still do, but he does seem very pre-occupied this year,maybe for the reasons you state too.

[robb]

What has happened to Simon, "The best performance of the season" and no he wasn't talking about Rebbeca but the mediocre Cher, not bad but not great either, seems to be the pet of the X factor this year.
Another ole chestnut of simons this year is "liked you last week, loved you this week" the man is getting very predictable, i used to value his opinion and he often said what was going through my head about performances but not anymore, he is starting to annoy me.
The talent on the show never get the comments mini-cheryl gets which in my opinion is unfair and pure favourtism and blatant favourtism by Cheryl, will Cher the chav be known in 10 years i think not, will Rebecca, a good chance yes.
It's time the judges were fair and tell it how it is and forget the sniff of money all the time and one more thing treat all guests equally, that was really rude of danni and cheryl.

Agree with most of the above, and just to add that Katie and Cher are nearly always on at the END OF THE SHOW. How is that fair? Would Cowell have reacted so positively if they had gone on , say 4th and 5th? Like Rebecca and Treyc had to? So far, Becky has been first girl on 3 weeks out of 4. And Treyc was first up in the other week!! What's the betting that KATIE will be in the last 3 to perform again on Saturday?? It's cheating the others out of a fair go...... :nono:

[robb]

To be fair, I did think that Cher was better this week. But this 'best thing since sliced bread' routine by Cowell is ridiculous.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Agree with most of the above, and just to add that Katie and Cher are nearly always on at the END OF THE SHOW. How is that fair? Would Cowell have reacted so positively if they had gone on , say 4th and 5th? Like Rebecca and Treyc had to? So far, Becky has been first girl on 3 weeks out of 4. And Treyc was first up in the other week!! What's the betting that KATIE will be in the last 3 to perform again on Saturday?? It's cheating the others out of a fair go...... :nono:

absolutely agree with this, it's very unfair and blatant favouritism/fixing.

[Jordan.]

People forget that Simon knows what he is talking about. He knows who will sell records and who wouldn't its not just about who has the best vocals anymore.

[joeysteele]

Rebecca always seems to be one of the early ones on,Cher is always neareer that end. I agree that is unfair.

The format should be made much fairer as to who goes when. Usually when I moan at this the next week who I am moaning about is on first so I wait to see if Cher goes on early this week.
With 4 girls still in the competition, Cheryl should certainly have the first act on. Let's hope it is Cher or Katie for a change.

[ElProximo]

People forget that Simon knows what he is talking about. He knows who will sell records and who wouldn't its not just about who has the best vocals anymore.

Nobody is forgetting that. The topic itself is about people who know full well that Simon does know better.
He DOES know Cher can sell records as an in-studio recording artist.
Exactly.

The complaint is that he does know this but rather than just say its the reason he wants her to stay he is pretending she IS a great singer and a great performer...
...so to keep his FUTURE recording artist getting as many votes (and therefore air-time, publicity) as possible.

[Kazanne]

He's still a sexpot though... :blush:

:dance::dance:I agree:elephant:

[nanaimo]

Nobody is forgetting that. The topic itself is about people who know full well that Simon does know better.
He DOES know Cher can sell records as an in-studio recording artist.
Exactly.

The complaint is that he does know this but rather than just say its the reason he wants her to stay he is pretending she IS a great singer and a great performer...
...so to keep his FUTURE recording artist getting as many votes (and therefore air-time, publicity) as possible.

Wagner with studio editing could be a recording artist aswell. Actually most people can these days.

[Merry Mockmas]

i hate cher but she sang brilliant last saturday imo.

[nanaimo]

i hate cher but she sang brilliant last saturday imo.

yean but others did as good as her but didn't get the overated praise she did, please let katie and cher in bottom 2 this week (not going to happen but dreams sometimes come through):dance:

[Merry Mockmas]

yean but others did as good as her but didn't get the overated praise she did, please let katie and cher in bottom 2 this week (not going to happen but dreams sometimes come through):dance:

dont worry katie will be gone in week 6.

[_Seth]

I agree totally, especially how he said "Liked you last week, loved you this week". Uhh no he still loved her previous performance. :rolleyes:

[Ammi]

OP you are bang-on.

Over the last few years Simon has been a bit softer but that is not the problem here. He can be 'soft' but still tell the hard truth, be accurate and break the bad news.

No, this problem is something else. This is Simon seeing (correctly) a perfect recording artist payday in Cher. A perfect teen-pop hit-maker using a studio and some audio-engineering wizards and some slick music videos.
OK.
But instead of Simon (as we knew him) just blatantly stating this upfront we get Simon trying to convince us that she is truly magnificent and good in her own right in this competition.
Ugh.
Honestly, IF Simon just said all this outright "Cher, you are not great live on-stage but I hope you stay because you are a perfect recording artist" OK then!
I mean I'd respect Simon for just saying that and think it would actually bolster Cher.

But instead we all have to pretend along with this?
Like we don't know or what?

I WOULD expect this from the other judges but always Simon was the 'reality check' and balance.
Now what?

I agree with you, I think with Simon we've always trusted him to cut the sh*t and be honest and he's mostly right even if he is criticising one of our favourates. If he said 'Look Cher hasn't got the greatest voice, in fact at best she's mediocre in the singing department but I think we need something different this year and I think Cher is it' I would think hmmm he knows what he's talking about and I'm looking at this the wrong way. Simon is HONEST - brutal sometimes but honest. Its a bit like Samson and Delilah- when she cut off his hair and he lost his strength -Simon is Samson and Cheryl is Delilah and its soo painful to see him, a shadow of what we know he is

[nanaimo]

Simon is acting like a love sick puppy and it is very cringeful at the moment :devil:

[ElProximo]

November 6th:

Okay well I will give Simon credit for (slightly) coming to his senses and was finally the one judge who found a way to rightly criticize Cher's performance.

Now he was a little careful not to specifically mention the poor singing but correctly said she had to do better compared to others (what is coming up - meaning Matt, Rebecca and others).

Just have to give credit where its due. Simon came back to his sense thankfully.

[nanaimo]

yeah he showed signs of his old self last night, good job he reads tibb...hehe

[ChristmasNeeve]

yeah he showed signs of his old self last night, good job he reads tibb...hehe

I would have liked if he had said that Matts was the performance of the season though just to knock Cher off, though the standing ovation probably spoke more volumes