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Niamh.
04-11-2010, 11:35 AM
News reports supporting public opinion that Katie is arrogant won't help keep her out of the bottom two again this week

http://www.entertainmentwise.com/news/56614/X-Factors-Katie-Waissel-Refuses-To-Rehearse

nanaimo
04-11-2010, 11:40 AM
just spoted this while reading your link
http://www.entertainmentwise.com/news/56611/Cher-Lloyd-Acts-Like-A-Diva-At-The-Cosmo-Awards

Crimson Dynamo
04-11-2010, 11:43 AM
"According to the Sun, the 17-year-old refused to have a convesation without her PR being present and even turned her back on reporters."



she turned her back on reporters?

unbelievable:shocked:


she wanted her PR there so that she would not be stitched up by tabloids who have been told to get a negative story about cher?

unbelievable:shocked:



hahahahahahahahahahahahaha:joker:

ElProximo
04-11-2010, 12:25 PM
News reports supporting public opinion that Katie is arrogant won't help keep her out of the bottom two again this week

http://www.entertainmentwise.com/news/56614/X-Factors-Katie-Waissel-Refuses-To-Rehearse

Her refusal to practice their song and wanting a pop song instead.. hmmm?
Katie may be in the right here?

If they contrived another Betty Boop on Benzos sleepwalking song then she may be wise to take a bigger risk.

I dunno.. play safe and do another 'sleeping marylin monroe talk-through' thing and hope to escape elimination?
or?
take a risk and attempt a big bright pop show?

Niamh.
04-11-2010, 12:30 PM
No proximo it said : "Right now, Katie is refusing to practise at all and says she would just prefer to go on stage and sing a song first pop." Not that she wanted to sing a pop song, she just didn't want to rehearse

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
04-11-2010, 12:32 PM
stupid cow :bored:

fruit_cake
04-11-2010, 12:33 PM
practice won't make any difference because let's face it... shes sh1t

Niamh.
04-11-2010, 12:34 PM
practice won't make any difference because let's face it... shes sh1t

so true, I think she's just throwing a tantrum cos she knows her time is up

ElProximo
04-11-2010, 12:40 PM
No proximo it said : "Right now, Katie is refusing to practise at all and says she would just prefer to go on stage and sing a song first pop." Not that she wanted to sing a pop song, she just didn't want to rehearse

Oh I see.
Yeah my bad. I'm on a lot of pills right now.

OH... wow, well that is one contestant who can't get away with that sort of spontaneous 'first pop' attempt.

Matt could. Actually I think Treyc could pull that off. Rebecca probably could pull off such a thing.

Katie.. oh my... she needs more practice even when she HAS practiced :shocked:

Niamh.
04-11-2010, 12:43 PM
Oh I see.
Yeah my bad. I'm on a lot of pills right now.

OH... wow, well that is one contestant who can't get away with that sort of spontaneous 'first pop' attempt.

Matt could. Actually I think Treyc could pull that off. Rebecca probably could pull off such a thing.

Katie.. oh my... she needs more practice even when she HAS practiced :shocked:

Indeed, especially after being in the bottom 2 again last week, you would think all she'd be doing is practising!

fruit_cake
04-11-2010, 12:46 PM
so true, I think she's just throwing a tantrum cos she knows her time is up

she'll do anything to maintain the drama

Niamh.
04-11-2010, 12:47 PM
she'll do anything to maintain the drama

the drama pisses me off and the crying, just sing the song ffs!

Jack_
04-11-2010, 03:34 PM
Getting pretty sick of all these stories about her and comments on websites etc, it's essentially bullying and I think Sunday's show showed just how much it's affecting her. I don't even understand what there is to dislike about her? She appears to be a nice person, who is just a bit 'quirky' and outgoing, as well as ambitious - what's the problem with that?

Niamh.
04-11-2010, 03:40 PM
Getting pretty sick of all these stories about her and comments on websites etc, it's essentially bullying and I think Sunday's show showed just how much it's affecting her. I don't even understand what there is to dislike about her? She appears to be a nice person, who is just a bit 'quirky' and outgoing, as well as ambitious - what's the problem with that?

Bullying? This is the biggest show in Britain atm, if there is a story to be told about any of the contestants then it will be.

Jack_
04-11-2010, 03:49 PM
Bullying? This is the biggest show in Britain atm, if there is a story to be told about any of the contestants then it will be.

But these aren't 'stories', they're total lies that have been spun and exaggerated from the smallest little incident. And everyone laps it up like fools and it gives these people a bad name. And even if this does turn out to be true [I could see the bit about her not liking the song choice being true] - what's the problem? Belle Amie refused to sing Simon's song and no one batted an eye lid. It's just because it's Katie that it's a problem. It's starting to piss me off.

Mystic Mock
04-11-2010, 03:50 PM
Getting pretty sick of all these stories about her and comments on websites etc, it's essentially bullying and I think Sunday's show showed just how much it's affecting her. I don't even understand what there is to dislike about her? She appears to be a nice person, who is just a bit 'quirky' and outgoing, as well as ambitious - what's the problem with that?

its not that shes out and out nasty,its just that she is very fake and annoying.

Jack_
04-11-2010, 03:56 PM
its not that shes out and out nasty,its just that she is very fake and annoying.

I don't understand how being 'quirky' and outgoing makes you fake? :conf:

She's far more interesting than most of the contestants - at least she has the 'X Factor'...

Niamh.
04-11-2010, 03:56 PM
But these aren't 'stories', they're total lies that have been spun and exaggerated from the smallest little incident. And everyone laps it up like fools and it gives these people a bad name. And even if this does turn out to be true [I could see the bit about her not liking the song choice being true] - what's the problem? Belle Amie refused to sing Simon's song and no one batted an eye lid. It's just because it's Katie that it's a problem. It's starting to piss me off.

there are some not too great stories about Cher, Wagner and John as well, so what? Don't enter a TV competition if you don't want stories written about you!

Niamh.
04-11-2010, 03:56 PM
I don't understand how being 'quirky' and outgoing makes you fake? :conf:

She's far more interesting than most of the contestants - at least she has the 'X Factor'...

more like the A-Factor

Mystic Mock
04-11-2010, 03:59 PM
I don't understand how being 'quirky' and outgoing makes you fake? :conf:

She's far more interesting than most of the contestants - at least she has the 'X Factor'...

are you gonna tell me that she acts like that in real life?

Novo
04-11-2010, 03:59 PM
there are some not too great stories about Cher, Wagner and John as well, so what? Don't enter a TV competition if you don't want stories written about you!

Katie has had much worse press, probably worse then the 3 of them put together so you can't compare them 3 to her at all.

Novo
04-11-2010, 04:01 PM
your telling me that she acts like that in real life?

She is probably the most real person in that competition, she actually knows who she is and what she wants to be.

Jack_
04-11-2010, 04:02 PM
there are some not too great stories about Cher, Wagner and John as well, so what? Don't enter a TV competition if you don't want stories written about you!

John? When did ANYONE ever write ANYTHING about him? Hardly anyone knew who he was [or cared]. Most of Wagner's have been positive, the only negative one I can recall was the 'leaked phonecall'. Cher has her fair share too, admittedly, but she has a lot of support to counterbalance that.

Just doing a Google News search of 'Katie Waissel' returns this: http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&biw=1366&bih=613&q=katie%20waissel&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbs=nws:1&source=og&sa=N&tab=wn&fp=58316d9f4681ebad

I struggle to find more than one positive story there...it's all negative. And there's thousands of articles written about her. Every day.

No one's saying they can't write stories about her, but **** me at least write a positive one every so often, and don't write total bullsh!t either. What exactly has she done to receive all of the negativity surrounding her? You'd think she'd murdered someone. Aren't there more important negative stories in the world these papers should be covering rather than a talent show contestant that's done absolutely nothing wrong?

Niamh.
04-11-2010, 04:03 PM
Katie has had much worse press, probably worse then the 3 of them put together so you can't compare them 3 to her at all.

I suppose they just have so much more materiel to work with

She is probably the most real person in that competition, she actually knows who she is and what she wants to be.

yeah a real annoying drama queen

Mystic Mock
04-11-2010, 04:06 PM
John? When did ANYONE ever write ANYTHING about him? Hardly anyone knew who he was [or cared]. Most of Wagner's have been positive, the only negative one I can recall was the 'leaked phonecall'. Cher has her fair share too, admittedly, but she has a lot of support to counterbalance that.

Just doing a Google News search of 'Katie Waissel' returns this: http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&biw=1366&bih=613&q=katie%20waissel&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbs=nws:1&source=og&sa=N&tab=wn&fp=58316d9f4681ebad

I struggle to find more than one positive story there...it's all negative. And there's thousands of articles written about her. Every day.

No one's saying they can't write stories about her, but **** me at least write a positive one every so often, and don't write total bullsh!t either. What exactly has she done to receive all of the negativity surrounding her? You'd think she'd murdered someone. Aren't there more important negative stories in the world these papers should be covering rather than a talent show contestant that's done absolutely nothing wrong?

they also printed a story about wagner smoking canabis aswell.

Jack_
04-11-2010, 04:06 PM
more like the A-Factor

No, the X Factor. At least with her I know I'd be going to a show where I was going to be entertained and would not be sent to sleep. And I could listen to interviews with her and be interested. All are factors which make up the 'X Factor'. It's not just the voice and that's it.

are you gonna tell me that she acts like that in real life?

Who are you to comment on how someone acts in 'real life'? Besides, do you think Lady Gaga acts like she does in 'real life' away from the spotlight?

Get a grip :sleep:

She is probably the most real person in that competition, she actually knows who she is and what she wants to be.

Exactly. Thank you.

Novo
04-11-2010, 04:07 PM
are you gonna tell me that she acts like that in real life?

I suppose they just have so much more materiel to work with



yeah a real annoying drama queen

Don't know how crying when you you are minutes away from finding out that your dreams might be crushed can make anyone a drama Queen, suppose that's just your logic though...

Niamh.
04-11-2010, 04:07 PM
John? When did ANYONE ever write ANYTHING about him? Hardly anyone knew who he was [or cared]. Most of Wagner's have been positive, the only negative one I can recall was the 'leaked phonecall'. Cher has her fair share too, admittedly, but she has a lot of support to counterbalance that.

Just doing a Google News search of 'Katie Waissel' returns this: http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&biw=1366&bih=613&q=katie%20waissel&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbs=nws:1&source=og&sa=N&tab=wn&fp=58316d9f4681ebad

I struggle to find more than one positive story there...it's all negative. And there's thousands of articles written about her. Every day.

No one's saying they can't write stories about her, but **** me at least write a positive one every so often, and don't write total bullsh!t either. What exactly has she done to receive all of the negativity surrounding her? You'd think she'd murdered someone. Aren't there more important negative stories in the world these papers should be covering rather than a talent show contestant that's done absolutely nothing wrong?

There was a story about John having a fight with Wagner over him spraying deodrant and John saying he was trying to damage his throat or something like that. Wagner also has had a story about threatening Harry in rehearsals.

And who out of the contestants have had positive stories written about them? Why should she get special treatment? She's already getting special treatment on the show, being put on last or close to last all the time:rolleyes:

If anything Rebecca should be complaining about the fact that she's almost always the first girl on and isn't getting enough credit from the judges on how good she is

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
04-11-2010, 04:10 PM
yes wagner threatened harry :nono:

*comforts harry and takes advantage*

Mystic Mock
04-11-2010, 04:10 PM
No, the X Factor. At least with her I know I'd be going to a show where I was going to be entertained and would not be sent to sleep. And I could listen to interviews with her and be interested. All are factors which make up the 'X Factor'. It's not just the voice and that's it.



Who are you to comment on how someone acts in 'real life'? Besides, do you think Lady Gaga acts like she does in 'real life' away from the spotlight?

Get a grip :sleep:



Exactly. Thank you.

im actually going off lady gaga because shes taking her fakeness to far.

and i dont rate katie weasels voice much either,and i noticed you aint commented on the wagner smoking canabis story because you know its worse than anything thats been printed about katie.

Niamh.
04-11-2010, 04:12 PM
Don't know how crying when you you are minutes away from finding out that your dreams might be crushed can make anyone a drama Queen, suppose that's just your logic though...

I didn't use that as an example , you did, eventhough that was annoying, I would be more referring to all these panic attacks she has and collapsing etc. If she cant take the heat get out of the kitchen

Jack_
04-11-2010, 04:15 PM
There was a story about John having a fight with Wagner over him spraying deodrant and John saying he was trying to damage his throat or something like that. Wagner also has had a story about threatening Harry in rehearsals.

...well that sounds like a negative story regarding Wagner, not John. Never heard of the Harry thing either.

And who out of the contestants have had positive stories written about them? Why should she get special treatment? She's already getting special treatment on the show, being put on last or close to last all the time:rolleyes:

One Direction for a start. And Cher [well, some of it]. Matt's has been fairly positive too. It's not that the other contestants haven't had negative press, it's that Katie has had far, far more negative press than any of the others...infact the most negative press an XF contestant has ever received, IMO. One low-rate tabloid even stated she was the 'Most Hated Reality TV Contestant Ever' the other day [what a ****ing joke] - I mean, how do you think that's going to make someone feel?

I'm glad she's near enough always the last on - as she's interesting [we want something to look forward to to close the show, not something to fall asleep waiting for - I expect that's the producers reasoning behind it as well] and also deserves a chance. On top of all the negative press, sticking her on first would send her straight to the Bottom Two - no question.

If anything Rebecca should be complaining about the fact that she's almost always the first girl on and isn't getting enough credit from the judges on how good she is

But has Rebecca been in the Bottom Two/Three yet? No, so she has nothing to complain about, really. And to be honest apart from Week 3, I really don't think she has been [i]that good. She was better pre-live shows.

Jack_
04-11-2010, 04:18 PM
im actually going off lady gaga because shes taking her fakeness to far.

and i dont rate katie weasels voice much either,and i noticed you aint commented on the wagner smoking canabis story because you know its worse than anything thats been printed about katie.

Why does it matter if an artist is 'fake' in front of the cameras/spotlight? It's the business, you're not going to get very far [in most cases], if you're a dull, irrelevant, non-entity. You've got to be a little bit interesting. That's the way the business works. Deal with it.

I didn't reply because I didn't see the post. But no, I don't think it's worse than anything that's been printed about Katie. People all over the country smoke cannabis every single day and no one bats an eyelid [except some of the police]- especially not me, I couldn't give a flying *****. Alcohol is technically more dangerous anyway. So why the fuss over Wagner? What difference does it make?

Niamh.
04-11-2010, 04:21 PM
...well that sounds like a negative story regarding Wagner, not John. Never heard of the Harry thing either.

Well, not really cos it's was a pretty irrational and diva esque type thing to complain about! Have a look at todays X-Factor treads and you'll see a thread on the Harry thing.

One Direction for a start. And Cher [well, some of it]. Matt's has been fairly positive too. It's not that the other contestants haven't had negative press, it's that Katie has had far, far more negative press than any of the others...infact the most negative press an XF contestant has ever received, IMO. One low-rate tabloid even stated she was the 'Most Hated Reality TV Contestant Ever' the other day [what a ****ing joke] - I mean, how do you think that's going to make someone feel?

yes you've named the people who've had a positive press but haven't told me what stories they were so I'm still none the wiser. And maybe she's had more negative press cos there's more negative things to write about her?

I'm glad she's near enough always the last on - as she's interesting [we want something to look forward to to close the show, not something to fall asleep waiting for - I expect that's the producers reasoning behind it as well] and also deserves a chance. On top of all the negative press, sticking her on first would send her straight to the Bottom Two - no question.

I'm sure she's glad too at the special treatment she's getting cos she'd probably be gone now if it wasn't for that


But has Rebecca been in the Bottom Two/Three yet? No, so she has nothing to complain about, really. And to be honest apart from Week 3, I really don't think she has been [i]that good. She was better pre-live shows.

No she hasn't, even though she's getting terrible spots on the show, what does that tell you?

Mystic Mock
04-11-2010, 04:22 PM
Why does it matter if an artist is 'fake' in front of the cameras/spotlight? It's the business, you're not going to get very far [in most cases], if you're a dull, irrelevant, non-entity. You've got to be a little bit interesting. That's the way the business works. Deal with it.

I didn't reply because I didn't see the post. But no, I don't think it's worse than anything that's been printed about Katie. People all over the country smoke cannabis every single day and no one bats an eyelid [except some of the police]- especially not me, I couldn't give a flying *****. Alcohol is technically more dangerous anyway. So why the fuss over Wagner? What difference does it make?

leona lewis is successful yet shes dull as dishwater,and as somebody else said what about the story where wagner threatens harry something (cant think of his last name)

Novo
04-11-2010, 04:26 PM
Well, not really cos it's was a pretty irrational and diva esque type thing to complain about! Have a look at todays X-Factor treads and you'll see a thread on the Harry thing.



yes you've named the people who've had a positive press but haven't told me what stories they were so I'm still none the wiser. And maybe she's had more negative press cos there's more negative things to write about her?



I'm sure she's glad too at the special treatment she's getting cos she'd probably be gone now if it wasn't for that




No she hasn't, even though she's getting terrible spots on the show, what does that tell you?

How is she getting terrible spots? anywhere but first is pretty much fine

Niamh.
04-11-2010, 04:27 PM
leona lewis is successful yet shes dull as dishwater,and as somebody else said what about the story where wagner threatens harry something (cant think of his last name)

Also, the only story I can think of for Matt was a negative one about him being arrested for possession of cocaine or something

Niamh.
04-11-2010, 04:28 PM
How is she getting terrible spots? anywhere but first is pretty much fine

not really, the earlier spots are the worst and she's been first girl on twice I think out of 4 shows

Mystic Mock
04-11-2010, 04:29 PM
Also, the only story I can think of for Matt was a negative one about him being arrested for possession of cocaine or something

yeah i forgot that,did it turn out to be true?

Mystic Mock
04-11-2010, 04:29 PM
not really, the earlier spots are the worst and she's been first girl on twice I think out of 4 shows

i thought it was 3 times out of 4 shows?

Niamh.
04-11-2010, 04:31 PM
yeah i forgot that,did it turn out to be true?

I think it was his friend who had the drugs but the story was true I think

i thought it was 3 times out of 4 shows?

yeah could be not 100% sure

Jack_
04-11-2010, 04:37 PM
Well, not really cos it's was a pretty irrational and diva esque type thing to complain about! Have a look at todays X-Factor treads and you'll see a thread on the Harry thing.

Seen it. Fair point - but it's still not as much as Katie's receiving.

yes you've named the people who've had a positive press but haven't told me what stories they were so I'm still none the wiser. And maybe she's had more negative press cos there's more negative things to write about her?

Well One Direction being named the favourite is one for a start - as well as them receiving the 'backing' of Take That, Westlife, The Wanted etc.

What negative things are there to write about her exactly? Has she murdered anyone? Because that's the impression you'd get judging by some people's reactions and comments. So what if she's ambitious and outgoing, what's the big deal? And as for all these 'negative incidents' that keep being reported, please tell me you or anyone else on here doesn't believe them? It's tabloid crap.

I'm sure she's glad too at the special treatment she's getting cos she'd probably be gone now if it wasn't for that

Yeah, she would - and I really don't think the negative press helps people's perceptions of her. Infact I think it hinders it and people aren't giving her a fair chance. So yes, I'm sure she's glad and she deserves it too.

No she hasn't, even though she's getting terrible spots on the show, what does that tell you?

Wouldn't call them 'terrible', like Novo said as long it's not first there's not really a problem. And people like her anyway - like I said, people just aren't giving Katie a fair chance. She's a hell of a lot more interesting than Rebecca is anyway...

leona lewis is successful yet shes dull as dishwater,and as somebody else said what about the story where wagner threatens harry something (cant think of his last name)

But Leona has outstanding vocal talent - people like that will sail through with that talent alone. The others who have mediocre or just good voices need the 'X Factor' to back them up.

Niamh.
04-11-2010, 04:40 PM
at the end of the day Jack, besides the fact that she's extremely annoying she just doesn't have the talent to come any where in the competition and I'll be very surprised if she isn't gone on Sunday for that reason alone.

Jack_
04-11-2010, 04:42 PM
at the end of the day Jack, besides the fact that she's extremely annoying she just doesn't have the talent to come any where in the competition and I'll be very surprised if she isn't gone on Sunday for that reason alone.

But...Katie does have talent... :conf:

She's interesting, quirky, different, has a nice voice [not the strongest, but it's nice], and has stage presence. That's essentially what the 'X Factor' is.

Most mainstream artists nowadays don't have much talent - so what's the difference? That's the market they're going to be competing in.

Mystic Mock
04-11-2010, 04:43 PM
at the end of the day Jack, besides the fact that she's extremely annoying she just doesn't have the talent to come any where in the competition and I'll be very surprised if she isn't gone on Sunday for that reason alone.

she will rebound this week,but week 6 will be when she goes.

Niamh.
04-11-2010, 04:46 PM
But...Katie does have talent... :conf:

She's interesting, quirky, different, has a nice voice [not the strongest, but it's nice], and has stage presence. That's essentially what the 'X Factor' is.

Most mainstream artists nowadays don't have much talent - so what's the difference? That's the market they're going to be competing in.

I don't think she has talent nor do I think she's interesting, but I suppose one mans interesting is another mans irritating.

I don't care about most mainstream artists tbh I watch the show for real talent and exceptional voices neither of which fits Katie

Mystic Mock
04-11-2010, 04:50 PM
But...Katie does have talent... :conf:

She's interesting, quirky, different, has a nice voice [not the strongest, but it's nice], and has stage presence. That's essentially what the 'X Factor' is.

Most mainstream artists nowadays don't have much talent - so what's the difference? That's the market they're going to be competing in.

thats one of the things she lacks for me when she performs and thats stage pressence,if it werent for my mom liking her so much i would have forgotten the performances by now.

niamxho my mom is a matt fan first.:hugesmile:

Niamh.
04-11-2010, 04:52 PM
thats one of the things she lacks for me when she performs and thats stage pressence,if it werent for my mom liking her so much i would have forgotten the performances by now.

niamxho my mom is a matt fan first.:hugesmile:

yay:love:

Jack_
04-11-2010, 04:59 PM
I don't care about most mainstream artists tbh I watch the show for real talent and exceptional voices neither of which fits Katie

But the show is looking for a mainstream artist...

Novo
04-11-2010, 05:01 PM
Katie is Amazing [/Thread]

tate
04-11-2010, 05:02 PM
As far as the press go, there are some folk who invite the attention - katie seems like one of these people.

The problem is, when you invite attention you put yourself at risk of negativity which is exactly what has happened to Katie.

She is so so desperate for fame that some people, journalists included, take an instant dislike to that trait

With regard to her talent, I like the quirkyness but quite frankly the over the top drama that surrounds her and her mediocre voice is a turn off for me

I, in all honesty, cannot be completely convinced that the panic attacks are not just a rouse for sympathy, votes and yet more attention

Niamh.
04-11-2010, 05:02 PM
But the show is looking for a mainstream artist...

so? That's not why I watch it and if that's what they're looking for then it'll be Cher not katie

Mystic Mock
04-11-2010, 05:04 PM
so? That's not why I watch it and if that's what they're looking for then it'll be Cher not katie

they will go for down the pop route again and get stupid direction to win.

Jack_
04-11-2010, 05:13 PM
so? That's not why I watch it and if that's what they're looking for then it'll be Cher not katie

The point is that they're looking for a mainstream artist and Katie would be one of them, amongst others [whether they would be successful or not is irrelevant, they would still suit a mainstream market], and so thus wanting potential mainstream artists out of the competition pretty much goes against the entire point of the show...

In other words what you're saying is that you just watch the show for the 'talent', but then once the winner/other acts go into the mainstream music market you won't follow their progress because you don't care about mainstream artists? So I take it that applies to Matt as well?

The only potential mainstream artists this year are Cher, One Direction, Matt, Katie, Rebecca and possibly Aiden.

Beastie
04-11-2010, 05:16 PM
ALL of them want to be in the final 8 at least. If not then they will lose out on a large pay packet to go on the X Factor tour.

Niamh.
04-11-2010, 05:19 PM
The point is that they're looking for a mainstream artist and Katie would be one of them, amongst others [whether they would be successful or not is irrelevant, they would still suit a mainstream market], and so thus wanting potential mainstream artists out of the competition pretty much goes against the entire point of the show...

Yes but what you're missing is that most people find Katie extremely annoying so why do you thin k that she would be a successful artist???

In other words what you're saying is that you just watch the show for the 'talent', but then once the winner/other acts go into the mainstream music market you won't follow their progress because you don't care about mainstream artists? So I take it that applies to Matt as well?

The only potential mainstream artists this year are Cher, One Direction, Matt, Katie, Rebecca and possibly Aiden.

I wouldn't say I would follow the winners progress as such no, I haven't really liked any of the winners so far. I have heard Ollys new song though which I do like and as for Matt depends on what kind of music he realises after

Jack_
04-11-2010, 05:22 PM
Yes but what you're missing is that most people find Katie extremely annoying so why do you thin k that she would be a successful artist???

They find her 'extremely annoying' because of the crap they've lapped up in the tabloids. As I said, no one is giving her a fair chance...

And I never said 'successful', infact I specifically said whether they'd be succesful or not is irrelevant, they are still the only potential mainstream artists. Hypothetical success/failure doesn't come into it - they're the only potential mainstream artists and that's that.

tate
04-11-2010, 05:22 PM
on a lighter note, this spoof twitter page for Katie is really funny!

http://twitter.com/katieweasel

Mystic Mock
04-11-2010, 05:24 PM
on a lighter note, this spoof twitter page for Katie is really funny!

http://twitter.com/katieweasel

like there piss take surname.:joker:

tate
04-11-2010, 05:27 PM
like there piss take surname.:joker:

Indeed!! Some of the tweets are really funny too, like

"The Fireworks are frightening the little ones. Niall is hiding under his bed and we are trying to coax him out with a kitkat"

"All this conflict in the house as you would expect. At least 10 strong personalities here and 8 of those are probably mine"

"Cher says that One Direction are a 'pain in the arse'. Even at her age, surely she must've worked out that she was doing it wrong"

Niamh.
04-11-2010, 05:28 PM
They find her 'extremely annoying' because of the crap they've lapped up in the tabloids. As I said, no one is giving her a fair chance...

or because they see her every week on the show........

And I never said 'successful', infact I specifically said whether they'd be succesful or not is irrelevant, they are still the only potential mainstream artists. Hypothetical success/failure doesn't come into it - they're the only potential mainstream artists and that's that.

so could anyone really.......

Mystic Mock
04-11-2010, 05:29 PM
Indeed!! Some of the tweets are really funny too, like

"The Fireworks are frightening the little ones. Niall is hiding under his bed and we are trying to coax him out with a kitkat"

"All this conflict in the house as you would expect. At least 10 strong personalities here and 8 of those are probably mine"

"Cher says that One Direction are a 'pain in the arse'. Even at her age, surely she must've worked out that she was doing it wrong"

i like them.

Vicky.
04-11-2010, 05:32 PM
They find her 'extremely annoying' because of the crap they've lapped up in the tabloids. As I said, no one is giving her a fair chance...


I think its very ignorant to assume the only reason people find her annoying is because they lap up everything that is said in rags. Some people make their own opinion on what they SEE. And she comes across as a bit of a spoilt bitch to be honest :/

That said, I can give or take her. Her voice is OK but nothing special really. And the song choices for her have been terrible. I think cheryl is focusing on cher more for some odd reason...and just throwing anything at the other girls.

Jack_
04-11-2010, 05:33 PM
or because they see her every week on the show........

Yes - and each week they don't judge her performance, they just stick with their preconceived idea of 'her' using the crap they've lapped up in the tabloids.

so could anyone really.......

'So could anyone' what? Anyone could be a mainstream artist? :conf:

Vicky.
04-11-2010, 05:35 PM
Yes - and each week they don't judge her performance, they just stick with their preconceived idea of 'her' using the crap they've lapped up in the tabloids.

Says who? Just because YOU like her doesn't mean everyone else has to. People can dislike her for other reasons than because they read a nasty story in the papers you know...

Novo
04-11-2010, 05:35 PM
I think the only terrible song choice she has had is We are the champions in the first week, She has sung a few Etta james songs though.. great songs but probably over half the audience that watch X factor have never heard them before... wouldn't even be suprised if most of them don't even know who she is to be honest.

Beastie
04-11-2010, 05:37 PM
I didn't like Katie and Cher when they went to Cheryl's house. Because neither of them could sing a full song.

Since the Live Shows I think they have both been so different and fantastic!!

They are not the most likeable people but they are two people I would LOVE to see on The X Factor tour.

Sadly though.. don't think Katie will be make it to the top 8 :(

Vicky.
04-11-2010, 05:37 PM
I think the only terrible song choice she has had is We are the champions in the first week, She has sung a few Etta james songs though.. great songs but probably over half the audience that watch X factor have never heard them before... wouldn't even be suprised if most of them don't even know who she is to be honest.

The jungle book was terrible. Lovely performance, looked stunning, but to be honest that song wouldnt show anyones vocals off. This week was quite bad too.

Her surivival songs are great though, which makes me think she should be picking her own songs, it seems a bit like cheryl is knacking her up

Jack_
04-11-2010, 06:21 PM
I think its very ignorant to assume the only reason people find her annoying is because they lap up everything that is said in rags. Some people make their own opinion on what they SEE. And she comes across as a bit of a spoilt bitch to be honest :/

That said, I can give or take her. Her voice is OK but nothing special really. And the song choices for her have been terrible. I think cheryl is focusing on cher more for some odd reason...and just throwing anything at the other girls.

I never said everyone - of course there'll be people that don't like her performances, and they're entitled to that opinion. But I would say a large majority have been influenced by the negative stories in the press. Stories that she's a 'slag' will put quite a lot of women off, a lot of girls I know has simply referred to her as a 'slag', the stories of her being up herself will also put some people off etc. It definitely has an effect. The press effects a lot of things. The more something is written about someone for example[whether negative or not], the more people discuss it and become aware of it. That's why people buy these tabloids/magazines - because they want to read the stories and 'believe' them. No one's going to buy something they know is lies are they? So they must believe them. I genuinely think it has an effect. Another example would be 'Sachsgate' with Ross and Brand - many people were complaining when they hadn't even listened to the audio, as a result of it being all over the press.

And I agree that the song choices have been terrible, hence why I hope [and somehow believe] there's some truth behind the claims that she's refused the choice this week. I'm glad she's done that, because like you said, her sing-off performances have been miles ahead of all the other performances she's done...

Vicky.
04-11-2010, 06:23 PM
I have never read anything that suggests she is a slag :shocked:

Thats a bit below the belt.

Mystic Mock
04-11-2010, 06:26 PM
I have never read anything that suggests she is a slag :shocked:

Thats a bit below the belt.

ive never heard anybody say that shes a slag either.:shocked:

we must be off our game vicky.

Novo
04-11-2010, 06:28 PM
You must not read the newspapers alot then.. they ripped her apart about the matt cardle thing

Mystic Mock
04-11-2010, 06:29 PM
You must not read the newspapers alot then.. they ripped her apart about the matt cardle thing

i dont as i dont believe what they say unless theres pictures of them doing that said thing.

Vicky.
04-11-2010, 06:30 PM
You must not read the newspapers alot then.. they ripped her apart about the matt cardle thing

Ah yeah, I did read about that.

When she 'said' she had spent the night with him?

King Gizzard
04-11-2010, 06:31 PM
http://www.womenandhealth.org/events/Photos/bruce-springsteen.jpg

Jack_
04-11-2010, 06:33 PM
You must not read the newspapers alot then.. they ripped her apart about the matt cardle thing

This, as well as the James Blunt thing and there was an article in the News Of The World [I think] a few weeks back with pics of her pole dancing or something or other...

Vicky.
04-11-2010, 06:35 PM
This, as well as the James Blunt thing and there was an article in the News Of The World [I think] a few weeks back with pics of her pole dancing or something or other...
I know nothing at all of this james blunt thing either :S

Then again, I refuse to read the star and stuff, since they very rarely contain anything even close to the truth...

Jamietwo
04-11-2010, 06:57 PM
I don't pay any attention to anything written in the tabloids. she seems like a sweet young girl , must be a head trip being that young and on tv combined with an exhausting schedule, bound to bring out a few tensions and mini breakdowns. I don't really understand the anti Katie thing. she is not a particularly strong singer but always does a good performance, good luck to her.