Who's left that you think the judges would save Katie over?

[fancydressmasks]

I personally don't understand all the outrage over them saving Katie over Treyc, because Treyc had been in the bottom two only one less time than Katie had.

But what worries me about the fact that the judges keep saving Katie is this: how many people would they save Katie over?

It makes sense to save her over Wagner, but I worry that they may even save her over Paije/Aiden/Mary and I really don't think they can justify that at all.

If they need her on the tour, she only needs to stay one more week, which is fine if she's up against Wagner. Up against anyone else, and they might send someone home who doesn't really deserve it. Then again, after all the backlash they've gotten over this, maybe they wouldn't dare save her over anyone else other than Wagner.

How far d'you think they'll take it?

[Jordan.]

They'd save her over Wagner and Paije. Possibly Mary too, it'd be a good choice if they did.

[Niamh.]

Personally I think that as all of the contestants left bar Katie have never been in the bottom 2 and this will be Katies 4th time then they shouldn't save her over anyone, including Wagner. If they save her again Simon is just saying a big ****** you to everyone who wasted their money voting

[Vicky.]

Personally I think that as all of the contestants left bar Katie have never been in the bottom 2 and this will be Katies 4th time then they shouldn't save her over anyone, including Wagner. If they save her again Simon is just saying a big ****** you to everyone who wasted their money votingThis.

[_Seth]

It's really unfair that they're saving her by getting rid of good acts so she makes the tour. :mad:

[fancydressmasks]

They'd save her over Wagner and Paije. Possibly Mary too, it'd be a good choice if they did.

I actually prefer Katie to Mary too, I just don't really think they could justify doing it. Also, it mainly worries me that if they'd save Katie over Mary, they'd save her over Aiden too :/

[stewart64]

Mary and Paije and of course Wagner, though i quite like Wagner. Mary like her song has got nothing and the same goes for Paije. The two of them have the ZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzFactor.

Save being wired up to the mains each time they sing, and no doubt Paije's and Mary's few fans would want their detractors to be, how do you ******ing stay awake during their performances. They could make money selling their albums as an alternative to sleeping pills.

[Strictly Jake]

Well I think the only one who she would be saved over is wagner. I hope this week is katie vs wagner. Because I would quite like to see katie on the tour and really dont want to see wagner. And I want to see all the others so hope its wagner leaving this week

[fancydressmasks]

Mary and Paije and of course Wagner, though i quite like Wagner. Mary like her song has got nothing and the same goes for Paije. The two of them have the ZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzFactor.

Save being wired up to the mains each time they sing, and no doubt Paije's and Mary's few fans would want their detractors to be, how do you ******ing stay awake during their performances. They could make money selling their albums as an alternative to sleeping pills.

Hahaha. I feel the same when it comes to Mary. Once her performances are over I find I can't remember any of it. I quite like Paije, but I wouldn't be bothered if he went, and his performances are a little boring. I'm just not sure if they'd be able to justify saving Katie over them.

[tate]

Ones who i think would sell tickets on the tour -

Matt - women especially
Rebecca - mass appeal
Cher - young crowd
Wagner - controversial but people would be intrigued about seeing him live just as they were Jedward / Chico et al
One Direction - young screamers
Aiden - at a push but he is very on trend with the twilight crowd

Unfortunately anyone else is expendable to the Cowell Touring Money Machine. Mary and Paije wouldnt draw in a crowd or a niche

[Crimson Dynamo]

Matt - women especially
Rebecca - mass appeal
Cher - young crowd
Wagner - controversial but people would be intrigued about seeing him live just as they were Jedward / Chico et al
One Direction - young screamers
Katie - marmite performer that the DM lurve

others can gtf as far as xfactor bigwigs are concerned

[Livia]

Katie's been in the bottom two often enough for the least observant person to realise she isn't popular.

[Barbie]

Shes been there too many times to be saved against anyone by rights, but i think if the judges fancy a bit more controversy then she would be saved over Wagner and Paije. If they really wanted to shoot themselves they'd save her over Mary.
All of these are like saying sod your voting because we are saving Katie whatever.

[stewart64]

Katie's been in the bottom two often enough for the least observant person to realise she isn't popular.

Definitely not popular with the voting public which is probably 80% teenage girls. An extra incentive for them to buy the tickets for the tour and give her a good booing.

[tate]

All of these are like saying sod your voting because we are saving Katie whatever.

I agree with that statement, they will be playing a very dangerous game if they save Katie again IMO, even Cowell etc must know after last weekend that they have pushed the public a little too far with this one

[fancydressmasks]

Ones who i think would sell tickets on the tour -
Aiden - at a push but he is very on trend with the twilight crowd


I am pretty sure the majority of Aiden fans don't like him because they're part of 'the twilight crowd'. That's a misconception from the likes of Simon Cowell.

[Stacey.]

Paije, Wagner. That's probably all..

[tate]

I am pretty sure the majority of Aiden fans don't like him because they're part of 'the twilight crowd'. That's a misconception from the likes of Simon Cowell.

I actually think Cowell has a point however I am not saying that ONLY that crowd will like him but my point was that at the moment due to the current trends that that is actually selling (tickets, merchandise etc) and Aiden fits a perfect marketability for that particular market

[fruit_cake]

I am pretty sure the majority of Aiden fans don't like him because they're part of 'the twilight crowd'. That's a misconception from the likes of Simon Cowell.

I like Aiden because he was amazing when he sang 'Mad World'.. very theatrical but since then he's been a bit rubbish. It's got nothing to do with Twilight I don't even watch it.

[fancydressmasks]

I actually think Cowell has a point however I am not saying that ONLY that crowd will like him but my point was that at the moment due to the current trends that that is actually selling (tickets, merchandise etc) and Aiden fits a perfect marketability for that particular market

I guess so, but I just don't really think that's one of the major reasons that people like him. I think for most of his fans it's simply more to do with the fact that he's unique and so is his voice.

But I suppose I see what you mean - because of his intensity they can relate him to that whole Twilight thing (even though I feel that's trivialising Aiden a lot) which adheres to the current trends.

Eh, I just feel like Aiden's a hell of a lot more than that. A lot of potential fans who might be all 'he's hot and intense like Edward Cullen, pick up the phones!' are probably the tweens who vote One Direction.

[fruit_cake]

he looks cute in your signature fancydress

[fancydressmasks]

he looks cute in your signature fancydress

aw i know, he looks so sweet. i love how confused he looks, as if he's not quite sure what a phone is :')

[fruit_cake]

aw i know, he looks so sweet. i love how confused he looks, as if he's not quite sure what a phone is :')

lol yeah bless him :lovedup:

[tate]

But I suppose I see what you mean - because of his intensity they can relate him to that whole Twilight thing (even though I feel that's trivialising Aiden a lot) which adheres to the current trends.

Eh, I just feel like Aiden's a hell of a lot more than that. A lot of potential fans who might be all 'he's hot and intense like Edward Cullen, pick up the phones!' are probably the tweens who vote One Direction.

It is trivialising him but until they do something completely out of left field with him and show some versatility then he will unfortunately be sold like a trend puppet - remember his 1st audition? Totally different to anything he has done ont eh live shows where they seem to insist on him portraying a dark, intense almost character

I also agree that I feel he is a lot more than this but unfortunately the tweens vote ... i would just love to see him do something more upbeat to showcase that fab personality

[Shaun]

Only Wagner. Saving her over anyone else would be a total disgrace.

[Smithy]

Wagner. but she deserves to stay over him

[dannyboy]

I hope they save Katie over Mary! I really want that bore out, possibly even more than i want wagner out! i think next time katie's bottom 2 they will get rid of her though.

[tate]

the possible katie v Wagner is interesting

Treyc beat Katie hands down for vocal talent
Katie beats Wagner hands down for vocal talent

BUT ... Cowell decided to keep Katie over Treyc based on who he found interesting and entertaining

So, should those 2 be in the bottom this week how exactly will it be judged? Given that the voting public is obviously more supportive (so far) of Wagner it would be very interesting to see how Cowell would cast his vote on these 2 given his reasoning last weekend

[fancydressmasks]

It is trivialising him but until they do something completely out of left field with him and show some versatility then he will unfortunately be sold like a trend puppet - remember his 1st audition? Totally different to anything he has done ont eh live shows where they seem to insist on him portraying a dark, intense almost character

I also agree that I feel he is a lot more than this but unfortunately the tweens vote ... i would just love to see him do something more upbeat to showcase that fab personality

I agree. I actually do love the darkness and intensity and I think that is partly Aiden, but it's quite obviously not all he is. I really think they need to shake it up a bit, and let him do some more upbeat stuff. I'd love it if he performed Gold Digger in full one show, because that was incredible.

It is like they're trying to make him into a character, which is obviously to make him 'interesting' but I feel they've missed the point that he already was interesting. Even watching his Gold Digger performance, I still feel he's got everything that's in his current performances - although it is an upbeat song there's still an intensity about the way he performs, and he still looks completely engrossed/lost in the song, which is one of the main things I love about Aiden. Only difference is he looks a lot more relaxed somehow than he does now in the live shows. They don't need to make him dark to make him interesting. I sometimes feel that they underestimate the public's intelligence - like the public wouldn't find Aiden interesting unless they stamped a character onto him.

[Mystic Mock]

Personally I think that as all of the contestants left bar Katie have never been in the bottom 2 and this will be Katies 4th time then they shouldn't save her over anyone, including Wagner. If they save her again Simon is just saying a big ****** you to everyone who wasted their money voting

i agree with this 100%,why should anybody think its acceptable for wagner to lose to katie but not anyone else whoes never hit the bottom 2 before?