View Full Version : Katie Waissel Imagine If Katie Waissel Won...
Patrick
14-11-2010, 11:35 PM
It would be the definition of an Irrepressible Dark Horse tbh.
:love:
Would be an epic ending, everyone expecting Matt or Boring Becks to win and Katie's name is called out.
She's so cute.
Does anyone else love her intro?
At the end when the camera just slides up her little body and it's like :love:
And there's this one part were Katie like does a cute facepalm in the intro, watch out for it next time. :love:
Jordan.
14-11-2010, 11:36 PM
Cher and Katie final 2 would be epic.
Shaun
14-11-2010, 11:38 PM
I love how much her fans are getting their hopes up. She'll only be in the bottom 2 again next week.
Kerry
14-11-2010, 11:38 PM
Got a horrible feeling she's built up too much hate somehow poor lass
Ramsay
14-11-2010, 11:38 PM
how you can find her cute is beyond me
and no to cher and katie final 2
cheryls ego would be go over the top big
The Human Santapede
14-11-2010, 11:38 PM
LOL, the uproar would be immense, but at least her name would become world known from the win. :hugesmile:
Jords
14-11-2010, 11:41 PM
It would be the definition of an Irrepressible Dark Horse tbh.
:love:
Would be an epic ending, everyone expecting Matt or Boring Becks to win and Katie's name is called out.
She's so cute.
Does anyone else love her intro?
At the end when the camera just slides up her little body and it's like :love:
And there's this one part were Katie like does a cute facepalm in the intro, watch out for it next time. :love:
That bit is :love: :love: :love:
Merry Mockmas
14-11-2010, 11:42 PM
grace adam short had a better chance of winning big brother 7 than katie winning the x factor.
Would be the biggest turnaround in Reality TV history considering she was about 150/1 before tonight and 1/8 odds on to go when her and Aiden were in the bottom two
Anything is possible when your Katie Waissel though
GiRTh
14-11-2010, 11:49 PM
Surely theres no way she can win unless they started discounting votes for other acts. I wouldn't put it past them tbh.
stewart64
17-11-2010, 03:25 PM
It would be an epic tale if the Great One came through. Think Joan of Arc and David and Goliath:joker:. She has her detractors, many on this forum, and the red tops...The Sun and Star run an anti-Katie headline almost daily.
Her fame or infamy has secured her future, but how fantastic if the Great one can win through. Please vote Katie she deserves our sympathy after the trashing she has received.
Much more interesting than going for Wagner as the anti-establishment vote. Katie's survival is now a National topic of conversation and one suspects the press love her too really. ( she can shift more papers than the rest of them put together)
ChristmasNeeve
17-11-2010, 03:28 PM
It's not going to happen, no act who's been in the bottom 2 has ever gone on to win the show so I doubt Katie, who's been there 4 times and is heading for a record 5, has a chance in hell!
stewart64
17-11-2010, 03:33 PM
It's not going to happen, no act who's been in the bottom 2 has ever gone on to win the show so I doubt Katie, who's been there 4 times and is heading for a record 5, has a chance in hell!
Well let's undo the predictability of this contest and for once have a bit of interest.
Those who think this is just a contest of vocal ability are wrong. She is the most interesting thing that has happened to the Xfactor. and the bonus is that she can sing if cheryl would just give her something decent like what the girl choices herself on the sing off.
ChristmasNeeve
17-11-2010, 03:36 PM
Well let's undo the predictability of this contest and for once have a bit of interest.
Those who think this is just a contest of vocal ability are wrong. She is the most interesting thing that has happened to the Xfactor. and the bonus is that she can sing if cheryl would just give her something decent like what the girl choices herself on the sing off.
eh how about we don't!
She can't sing, she's irritating and she only sometimes remembers the words to her songs. I would rather Wagner won than her.
It would be an epic tale if the Great One came through. Think Joan of Arc and David and Goliath:joker:. She has her detractors, many on this forum, and the red tops...The Sun and Star run an anti-Katie headline almost daily.
Her fame or infamy has secured her future, but how fantastic if the Great one can win through. Please vote Katie she deserves our sympathy after the trashing she has received.
Much more interesting than going for Wagner as the anti-establishment vote. Katie's survival is now a National topic of conversation and one suspects the press love her too really. ( she can shift more papers than the rest of them put together)
Joan of Arc is the best comparison i have heard another comparison which springs to mind is Mother Teresa
Jack_
17-11-2010, 03:41 PM
'She can't sing'. I'm baffled as to why people keep saying this after her performance in Sunday's sing-off [and her previous sing-off performances].
Of course she can sing. Look at this objectively please :laugh2:
stewart64
17-11-2010, 03:42 PM
Joan of Arc is the best comparison i have heard another comparison which springs to mind is Mother Teresa
My thoughts too. If Katie doesn't get canonised by Christmas then there has been one major ****** up by the Vatican.
'She can't sing'. I'm baffled as to why people keep saying this after her performance in Sunday's sing-off [and her previous sing-off performances].
Of course she can sing. Look at this objectively please :laugh2:
Some people don't think she can sing though, In my opinion she is the worst one there after Wagner.
ChristmasNeeve
17-11-2010, 03:48 PM
'She can't sing'. I'm baffled as to why people keep saying this after her performance in Sunday's sing-off [and her previous sing-off performances].
Of course she can sing. Look at this objectively please :laugh2:
in your opinion Jack, we're all allowed to have them
stewart64
17-11-2010, 03:52 PM
Some people don't think she can sing though, In my opinion she is the worst one there after Wagner.
A reputation sticks and then you don't get a fair hearing when you do sing well. When she gets it right, as on Sunday, it becomes one of the performances of the series. I doubt any of the contestants would have made a good fist of Saturday Night's Alright for Fighting, perhaps she is being given tough songs because of her superior vocals.:joker:
If she can't sing then what is she doing here?..
tap5mLpxhlI
It's not really an Opinion that you think she can't sing when she is obviously singing.. what else do you think she is doing?
ChristmasNeeve
17-11-2010, 03:58 PM
If she can't sing then what is she doing here?..
tap5mLpxhlI
It's not really an Opinion that you think she can't sing when she is obviously singing.. what else do you think she is doing?
well if that's the case then everyone can sing and I will rephrase what I said, she can't sing very well.
The one thing she certainly isn't is a 'dark horse' lol......she would push to the front of a queue of one.
When I saw the headline William To MARRY 'Kate' last night, I thought no....it can't be......even the Daily Star wouldn't try that one.....
Actually, I wonder who is more gutted about Kate Middleton's arrival on the front pages......KATIE, CHER,CHERYL, OR SIMON?? LOL
well if that's the case then everyone can sing and I will rephrase what I said, she can't sing very well.
Everyone can sing.. some better then others.. it's still singing though.. Katie can obviously do it better then most of them judging from this video
ChristmasNeeve
17-11-2010, 04:02 PM
Everyone can sing.. some better then others.. it's still singing though.. Katie can obviously do it better then most of them judging from this video
She sang ok that time, she is usually rubbish, hardly something to be jumping for joy about.
Jack_
17-11-2010, 04:03 PM
Some people don't think she can sing though, In my opinion she is the worst one there after Wagner.
But she can sing. You might not like her style or tone of singing, or her vocal range - but she can sing. You have to look at it objectively. I didn't like John Adeleye [mainly because he was dull], but when looking at it objectively, he had a strong voice. Whether someone can sing or not is not an opinion - whether you like it or not is, but whether they can or not isn't.
I fail to understand how anyone could suggest she can't sing after watching the video Novo just posted...
in your opinion Jack, we're all allowed to have them
I know - but there's a subjective opinion and then there's an objective opinion. With singing, you have to look at it objectively.
stewart64
17-11-2010, 04:05 PM
She sang ok that time, she is usually rubbish, hardly something to be jumping for joy about.
When she does her first album (no longer a case of if) she will do what she is best at...slow and soulful. I love her voice and though we have jokes about the Great One being grating that certainly doesn't apply to her voice. It is very easy and smooth. Grating is Treyc trying to belt it out.
She sang ok that time, she is usually rubbish, hardly something to be jumping for joy about.
She couldn't sing a minute ago and now she can sing OK
make your mind up
ChristmasNeeve
17-11-2010, 04:09 PM
She couldn't sing a minute ago and now she can sing OK
make your mind up
well, if you read my previous post (which I'm sure you did as you quoted it) you will have read me saying "I will rephrase that"
and I said she sang OK that one time.
But she can sing. You might not like her style or tone of singing, or her vocal range - but she can sing. You have to look at it objectively. I didn't like John Adeleye [mainly because he was dull], but when looking at it objectively, he had a strong voice. Whether someone can sing or not is not an opinion - whether you like it or not is, but whether they can or not isn't.
I fail to understand how anyone could suggest she can't sing after watching the video Novo just posted...
I know - but there's a subjective opinion and then there's an objective opinion. With singing, you have to look at it objectively.
Everyone can sing, it doesn't mean they are good at it.
ChristmasNeeve
17-11-2010, 04:09 PM
But she can sing. You might not like her style or tone of singing, or her vocal range - but she can sing. You have to look at it objectively. I didn't like John Adeleye [mainly because he was dull], but when looking at it objectively, he had a strong voice. Whether someone can sing or not is not an opinion - whether you like it or not is, but whether they can or not isn't.
I fail to understand how anyone could suggest she can't sing after watching the video Novo just posted...
I know - but there's a subjective opinion and then there's an objective opinion. With singing, you have to look at it objectively.
I don't like her voice Jack and I don't think many people do.
Captain.Remy
17-11-2010, 04:11 PM
That might happen because as for now, people are hating on her but she'll get more popular due to the "sympathy" thing after the hate. That happens a lot in reality-TV. Watch out for her.
Jay Z is interested in her and Cher now as well
Jay-Z is reportedly hoping to sign up Cher Lloyd and Katie Waissel to his record label after The X Factor finishes.
According to the Daily Star, both girls have impressed the US hip-hop star with their performances and he is considering offering them contracts with his European Takeover Roc Nation label if they fail to win the show.
Tinchy Stryder revealed the interest in the pair, commenting: "Cher is a real target for Jay-Z because she's proved she can sing really well, rap - and she's got great stage presence. After Cher there's an interest in Katie too. She's quirky and no-one can argue that she doesn't bring in the headlines.
Merry Mockmas
17-11-2010, 04:14 PM
If she can't sing then what is she doing here?..
tap5mLpxhlI
It's not really an Opinion that you think she can't sing when she is obviously singing.. what else do you think she is doing?
the only reason katie is there is because bastard cowell keeps saving her.
and shes got an average voice even in the sing off she was average.
nanaimo
17-11-2010, 04:14 PM
Jay Z is interested in her and Cher now as well
Jay-Z is reportedly hoping to sign up Cher Lloyd and Katie Waissel to his record label after The X Factor finishes.
According to the Daily Star, both girls have impressed the US hip-hop star with their performances and he is considering offering them contracts with his European Takeover Roc Nation label if they fail to win the show.
Tinchy Stryder revealed the interest in the pair, commenting: "Cher is a real target for Jay-Z because she's proved she can sing really well, rap - and she's got great stage presence. After Cher there's an interest in Katie too. She's quirky and no-one can argue that she doesn't bring in the headlines.
Good luck with that, jay z is crap now anyway
Jay Z is interested in her and Cher now as well
Jay-Z is reportedly hoping to sign up Cher Lloyd and Katie Waissel to his record label after The X Factor finishes.
According to the Daily Star, both girls have impressed the US hip-hop star with their performances and he is considering offering them contracts with his European Takeover Roc Nation label if they fail to win the show.
Tinchy Stryder revealed the interest in the pair, commenting: "Cher is a real target for Jay-Z because she's proved she can sing really well, rap - and she's got great stage presence. After Cher there's an interest in Katie too. She's quirky and no-one can argue that she doesn't bring in the headlines.
So?
Jack_
17-11-2010, 04:16 PM
Everyone can sing, it doesn't mean they are good at it.
Okay, let me rephrase it. Singing well is not a matter of opinion - well, subjective opinion that is.
I don't like her voice Jack and I don't think many people do.
...and there we go - that's the subjective opinion. The objective opinion is that she can sing well, but the your subjective opinion is that you don't like her voice [or her style of singing], but the objective opinion is that she can sing well.
Jords
17-11-2010, 04:16 PM
Katie can sing, just because you dont like somebody doesnt mean you cant admit they can sing...
I hated Aiden's voice but knew he could sing, well, sometime [Mad World].
stewart64
17-11-2010, 04:18 PM
That might happen because as for now, people are hating on her but she'll get more popular due to the "sympathy" thing after the hate. That happens a lot in reality-TV. Watch out for her.
If ,as widely reported, she got one third of the Treyc vote two weeks ago and therefore possibly as little as a quarter of the Aiden vote; then her star is rising. Either she quadrupled her vote or (very unlikely) Aiden's collapsed.
The Great One has momentum, if this forum is anything to go by she is gaining sympathy still. This is a great epic of a dead woman walking to the gallows four times and a howling mob of blockheads calling for her head. I think some of us are alive to the possibility of a wonderful turn around.
Jack_
17-11-2010, 04:18 PM
Katie can sing, just because you dont like somebody doesnt mean you cant admit they can sing...
I hated Aiden's voice but knew he could sing, well, sometime [Mad World].
It's just a case of some people believing that their subjective judgement is the correct one, when in actual fact whether someone can sing or not has to be looked at objectively.
ChristmasNeeve
17-11-2010, 04:18 PM
Okay, let me rephrase it. Singing well is not a matter of opinion - well, subjective opinion that is.
...and there we go - that's the subjective opinion. The objective opinion is that she can sing well, but the your subjective opinion is that you don't like her voice [or her style of singing], but the objective opinion is that she can sing well.
Jack stop being so patronizing please. Most people think she cannot sing well, I trust my ears and am sticking with she can't sing very well.
Katie can sing, just because you dont like somebody doesnt mean you cant admit they can sing...I hated Aiden's voice but knew he could sing, well, sometime [Mad World].
That's not the case here though, I don't dislike Katie I just don't think she sings well.
Good luck with that, jay z is crap now anyway
Such a laughable statement.. 9 #1 Albums.. if anyone knows how to turn people into superstars it's him
nanaimo
17-11-2010, 04:20 PM
she can't sing and to be a good singer you need to remember your lyrics which doesn't seem to be able to manage
nanaimo
17-11-2010, 04:21 PM
Such a laughable statement.. 9 #1 Albums.. if anyone knows how to turn people into superstars it's him
laugh away, i have a good few jay z cds but his new stuff is rubbish
BB Katie:xyxwave:
stewart64
17-11-2010, 04:23 PM
she can't song and to be a good singer you need to remember your lyrics which doesn't seem to be able to manage
Wont matter when she is in the recording studio, she can have as many goes as she likes. I will be first in the queue for her first of many platinum efforts.
laugh away, i have a good few jay z cds but his new stuff is rubbish
BB Katie:xyxwave:
His newer stuff like Empire State of Mind and Run this town?.... I am still laughing at you
nanaimo
17-11-2010, 04:24 PM
Wont matter when she is in the recording studio, she can have as many goes as she likes. I will be first in the queue for her first of many platinum efforts.
:joker::joker::joker:
Jack_
17-11-2010, 04:24 PM
Jack stop being so patronizing please. Most people think she cannot sing well, I trust my ears and am sticking with she can't sing very well.
I'm not being 'patronising'. I'm simply stating that there is such thing as a subjective and objective opinion. This does actually exist... :conf:
subjective; taking place within the mind and modified by individual bias; "a subjective judgment"
objective; undistorted by emotion or personal bias; based on observable phenomena; "an objective appraisal"; "objective evidence"
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_a_subjective_and_an _objective_opinion
In this case your subjective judgement is that you don't like her style and tone of singing, or her personality, but the objective evidence is that she can sing well, you just don't like her style/tone [which is your subjective opinion]. You can either sing well or you can't - to determine that it has to be looked at objectively, not subjectively.
nanaimo
17-11-2010, 04:24 PM
His newer stuff like Empire State of Mind and Run this town?.... I am still laughing at you
Glad i have made you laugh, too much sorrow and hate in the world ;)
she can't sing and to be a good singer you need to remember your lyrics which doesn't seem to be able to manage
She managed it pretty well Saturday and Sunday night
Locke.
17-11-2010, 04:26 PM
laugh away, i have a good few jay z cds but his new stuff is rubbish
BB Katie:xyxwave:
His last album has sold almost 2 million in the US, and has gone platinum here and in Canada aswell... so crap or not he's still selling much better than most other rap artists.
Rihanna, Mark Ronson, Wale, Ting Tings, Daniel Merriweather.. all managed by his label and all famous around the world. Same thing will happen if he does manage Cher and Katie, even if you think they can't sing or whatever with the promotion they'd be getting and with the artists they'd be performing with, it'd be almost impossible for them not to sell well.
ChristmasNeeve
17-11-2010, 04:59 PM
I'm not being 'patronising'. I'm simply stating that there is such thing as a subjective and objective opinion. This does actually exist... :conf:
subjective; taking place within the mind and modified by individual bias; "a subjective judgment"
objective; undistorted by emotion or personal bias; based on observable phenomena; "an objective appraisal"; "objective evidence"
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_a_subjective_and_an _objective_opinion
In this case your subjective judgement is that you don't like her style and tone of singing, or her personality, but the objective evidence is that she can sing well, you just don't like her style/tone [which is your subjective opinion]. You can either sing well or you can't - to determine that it has to be looked at objectively, not subjectively.
Jack, again stop being "patronising" and also a spelling nazi.
I dislike Katie yes, I still think she has a bad voice. I am perfectly capable of admitting when a person who I don't like has a good voice, Cher for example.
Merry Mockmas
17-11-2010, 05:00 PM
Jack, again stop being "patronising" and also a spelling nazi.
I dislike Katie yes, I still think she has a bad voice. I am perfectly capable of admitting when a person who I don't like has a good voice, Cher for example.
chers a **** rapper though.:joker:
ChristmasNeeve
17-11-2010, 05:02 PM
chers a **** rapper though.:joker:
I meant her singing voice:joker:
Jack_
17-11-2010, 05:04 PM
Jack, again stop being "patronising" and also a spelling nazi.
I dislike Katie yes, I still think she has a bad voice. I am perfectly capable of admitting when a person who I don't like has a good voice, Cher for example.
Eh? Where did I correct your spelling? Now I am confused... :conf:
But she doesn't have a bad voice [as the Sunday performance shows]...it's the terrible songs she's been given that's the problem.
Merry Mockmas
17-11-2010, 05:05 PM
I meant her singing voice:joker:
agreed,i thought she did brilliant with stay,did really good with new york and i thought her rapping was at its best on that performance aswell,but sorry seems to be the hardest word and mocking bird mash up didnt work for me.
Locke.
17-11-2010, 05:06 PM
chers a **** rapper though.:joker:
Some people
http://i56.tinypic.com/24xm8oy.gif
ChristmasNeeve
17-11-2010, 05:08 PM
Eh? Where did I correct your spelling? Now I am confused... :conf:
But she doesn't have a bad voice [as the Sunday performance shows]...it's the terrible songs she's been given that's the problem.
I assumed that's what you were doing when you put patronising in inverted commas
That is your view, I thought she sang ok on Sunday not great though. Pretty much every other song she's sang on the live shows she's absolutely murdered.
And as for the bad song choices, ever heard the phrase a bad workman blames his tools?.........
Jack_
17-11-2010, 05:13 PM
I assumed that's what you were doing when you put patronising in inverted commas
That is your view, I thought she sang ok on Sunday not great though. Pretty much every other song she's sang on the live shows she's absolutely murdered.
And as for the bad song choices, ever heard the phrase a bad workman blames his tools?.........
Oh, no, I put it in inverted commas because I was directly quoting something you said.
Yes I have heard that, but the songs she's been given haven't just been bad, they've essentially been joke songs. The Jungle Book? Bewitched? WTF? And to be quite honest I thought she's made the best of a bad job on them. Her sing-off performances have been far superior, and that's because she's been chosing her own songs...
Jevans
17-11-2010, 05:19 PM
If Katie wins then the British Public change their minds very quickly. If she wins then the british public are douchebags
ChristmasNeeve
17-11-2010, 05:21 PM
Oh, no, I put it in inverted commas because I was directly quoting something you said.
Yes I have heard that, but the songs she's been given haven't just been bad, they've essentially been joke songs. The Jungle Book? Bewitched? WTF? And to be quite honest I thought she's made the best of a bad job on them. Her sing-off performances have been far superior, and that's because she's been chosing her own songs...
Her sing off songs haven't been great imo and tbh the joke songs were her best performances, The No Doubt song was just horrible (and I love that song) as was the Queen song.
fPcrNKnoEBM
#1 in America this month
nanaimo
17-11-2010, 06:02 PM
fPcrNKnoEBM
#1 in America this month
Remove from the show *Rule Break
Angus
17-11-2010, 06:09 PM
If she can't sing then what is she doing here?..
tap5mLpxhlI
It's not really an Opinion that you think she can't sing when she is obviously singing.. what else do you think she is doing?
Caterwauling:bored:
joeysteele
17-11-2010, 06:10 PM
eh how about we don't!
She can't sing, she's irritating and she only sometimes remembers the words to her songs. I would rather Wagner won than her.
So would I, but I am near as sure as I can be that she's gone this week, especially if its a double elimination.
It really is rediculous that she is still there at all, she is not that quirky or original, Diana Vickers was much more so, she is not a particularly good singer, her standout performance is a song from Jungle Book.
She will 'only' be most remembered for all the 2nd chances she has been unfairly given in this series and for being highly unprofessional and forgetting the words to a song in a vital sing off.
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