Will Wagner win?

[Kazanne]

The crowning of a quality X Factor winner may be sabotaged by viewers, as millions continue to vote for Wagner Carrilho simply to vex Simon Cowell.

The X Factor joke has been tipped by bookmakers to make it through to the very end of the contest.

Week after week, the public have voted to keep the Brazilian singer in the ITV reality show - against the judges' wishes.

According to internet leaks Wagner is regularly in the top half of the results, despite most of us admitting he's tone deaf.

Fans are determined to keep him on the show to annoy Simon and for many it seems he's the perfect antidote to the polished style of the show.

Wagner recently won over more fans by criticising the shows boss, he said: "Nobody tells Simon Cowell what to do. The public do not decide who is going to win The X Factor. It is Simon Cowell."

A Facebook group urging the public to vote for him has more than 30,000 members. One fan wrote: "I want him to win and throw a spanner in the works of Simon Cowell 's obscene money-making machine."

Meanwhile, the website votefortheworst.com has also been urging people to sabotage the show. The site declared yesterday: "The UK have done it again, after the 54-year-old survived Sunday's vote."

The same effect has been happening over on Strictly Come Dancing with viewers voting to keep the worst contestant, Ann Widdecombe, on the show.

She survived another week despite coming last in the judges' scores. Her foxtrot was described as ''laboured'' and ''disorientated'' yet the public voted anyway.

Last year it was Rage Against the Machine that campaigned to keep the X Factor winner away from a Christmas number one, but this year it seems it's the shows viewers themselves who are running their very own 'Wagner style' boycott.

Do you think it's fair fans boycott the show? Are you one of the people voting for Wagner?

[Legend killer]

Of course he will , and yes i am voting for him

WAGNER FTW

[Vicky.]

I do vote for him now -hides-

Not to annoy Simon, but because he is basically the only one who makes me smile now, the others all seem boring in comparison. And also to see Cheryls face week after week when he goes through ;)

I think it is likely he will make the final, but I can't see him winning.

[GiRTh]

They reckon fans of acts that have gone out are now giving Wagner their votes. He just might pull this off. It'd be brilliant.

[Smithy]

I hope not :bored:

[Stacey.]

No.

And no, there's not even a chance of him winning. Horrible ****.

[Tom4784]

He won't, the same stories were popping up last year with Jedward. He'll be just ahead of the bottom 2 like they were. It would be glorious to see him win though.

[Vicky.]

No.

And no, there's not even a chance of him winning. Horrible ****.

According to the bookies hes more likely to win than Cher ;)

[Vicky.]

He won't, the same stories were popping up last year with Jedward. He'll be just ahead of the bottom 2 like they were. It would be glorious to see him win though.

This is a different situation to Jedward though, every week hes picking up more 'anti cowell' votes...

[Stacey.]

According to the bookies hes more likely to win than Cher ;)

The bookies clearly have no idea then :bored:

[Vicky.]

The bookies clearly have no idea then :bored:

Wagner has never been in the bottom two :D

[GiRTh]

He's in the top half every week. No where near the bottom. It'd be great if he won.

[Locke.]

Rather him than Rebecca, but speaking from experience it is annoying as **** when he gets more votes than your favourite, an I actually like him.

He's 9/1 at paddy power now aswell :\

[Stacey.]

Wagner has never been in the bottom two :D

Not yet, he's skipped that though, and now that it's just down to the public's votes then he'll just be out :)

[Tom4784]

This is a different situation to Jedward though, every week hes picking up more 'anti cowell' votes...

It's only the stories making it seem like he's getting somewhere, I'd love him to win but he won't.

He's in the top half every week. No where near the bottom. It'd be great if he won.

There's voting 'leaks' every year and the results released at the end always put paid to them. According to the leaks last year Jedward pretty much won every week.

[fruit_cake]

it'd be funny if Wagner won

[Ramsay]

It would be so good

[Vicky.]

Not yet, he's skipped that though, and now that it's just down to the public's votes then he'll just be out :)

How do you figure that? If he has never been in the bottom two, he is even less likely to be the bottom of the vote...

its actually probably better for him if it is just the public vote...that way ONLY the bottom ONE gets kicked out. if he hit the bottom TWO with the judges vote still there, he would be kicked out almost certainly.

[Kazanne]

Can't understand why they are doing it to pee Simon off,he wont be affected by it,the ones that will miss out are the contestants,from the article it looks like people are jealous of how much money Simon earns,WHY? someone pays him so it's not his fault,his expertise must be in demand ,people might not like shows like the Xfactor but why spoil it for those that do,can't they simply turn it off,low ratings would affect the show more than Wagner winning,lol,If Wagner wins,I hope this will be the last British Xfactor as it is not serious anymore and it has been spoilt imo.

[Stacey.]

How do you figure that? If he has never been in the bottom two, he is even less likely to be the bottom of the vote...

Well Cher will be back up this week, some of her lazy fans thought she was safe last saturday :nono: But Wagner may just be one above the act of the bottom two every week or something... he won't get much further, I'll give him 2 more weeks.

[Vicky.]

Can't understand why they are doing it to pee Simon off,he wont be affected by it,the ones that will miss out are the contestants,from the article it looks like people are jealous of how much money Simon earns,WHY? someone pays him so it's not his fault,his expertise must be in demand ,people might not like shows like the Xfactor but why spoil it for those that do,can't they simply turn it off,low ratings would affect the show more than Wagner winning,lol,If Wagner wins,I hope this will be the last British Xfactor as it is not serious anymore and it has been spoilt imo.

I'm voting because I like him though.

The anti simon vote is just a way of showing him that people wont be manipulated into voting the way he wants them to. Yes he still gets money, but his show loses credibility. I can nearly 100% guarantee that if Wagner won, next year we would have no joke acts put through past bootcamp, for fear of it happening again...so only talent will make the live shows ;)

[Vicky.]

Well Cher will be back up this week, some of her lazy fans thought she was safe last saturday :nono: But Wagner may just be one above the act of the bottom two every week or something... he won't get much further, I'll give him 2 more weeks.

2 more weeks is fine, he will make the semi finals then :')

I dont think he will win though...but there is a very big chance he will make the final.

[Stacey.]

2 more weeks is fine, he will make the semi finals then :')

I dont think he will win though...but there is a very big chance he will make the final.

Aslong he doesn't make the finals it's all good. :)

[GiRTh]

The anti simon vote is just a way of showing him that people wont be manipulated into voting the way he wants them to. Yes he still gets money, but his show loses credibility. I can nearly 100% guarantee that if Wagner won, next year we would have no joke acts put through past bootcamp, for fear of it happening again...so only talent will make the live shows ;)This. Simon wont be so cocky putting thru acts cuz their 'interesting'. The show needs to concentrate more on the talent than on Simons bank balance.

[Locke.]

Simon won't let him win either way, do you really think he would have him on his label and releasing an album? He would just make sure the press was negative for the week leading up to it, and then if Wagner still got the most votes he would probably just fix it.

[Tom]

It would be funny if he did but I don't think he will

On Saturday he was the last act to be called out, often when that happens, that person is in the bottom 2 the following week.

I think todays story about him being in the top half of voting each week is just a herring for people to stop voting for him on the merit that he'll get through on other peoples votes and so he'll end up in this weeks bottom 2

[Mr XcX]

No he will not win

[Kazanne]

I'm voting because I like him though.

The anti simon vote is just a way of showing him that people wont be manipulated into voting the way he wants them to. Yes he still gets money, but his show loses credibility. I can nearly 100% guarantee that if Wagner won, next year we would have no joke acts put through past bootcamp, for fear of it happening again...so only talent will make the live shows ;)

Fair enough if you genuinely like him,but it was NOT Simon who put Wagner through it was Louis,and if what you say is true how is that fair to this years acts?I hope this one is the last,it's really not enjoyable anymore,and how has Simon manipulated people into voting how he wants?In my opinion people vote how they want to,IF he was THAT powerful he could easily manipulate the votes and people to get Wagner out.

[Kazanne]

This. Simon wont be so cocky putting thru acts cuz their 'interesting'. The show needs to concentrate more on the talent than on Simons bank balance.

See,there we go again,why is money earned by Simon such a big deal?and again it was NOT simon that put Wagner through,it was LOUIS.

[Vicky.]

Fair enough if you genuinely like him,but it was NOT Simon who put Wagner through it was Louis,and if what you say is true how is that fair to this years acts?I hope this one is the last,it's really not enjoyable anymore,and how has Simon manipulated people into voting how he wants?In my opinion people vote how they want to,IF he was THAT powerful he could easily manipulate the votes and people to get Wagner out.

Simon gave him a yes at auditions as did Cheryl. Simon also put him through bootcamp and to judges houses. Ultimately Louis put him through to the live shows, but wasnt he his wildcard choice?

Simon tries to manipulate people to vote for who he wants via various methods...leaking negative/positive stories to the press...over praising acts, telling people certain acts are safe when they are far from it...that kind of thing. And also this year, the decision of saving katie 4 times even though it is obviously against the publics wishes has guaranteed Wagner a LOT more votes than he originally had.

It is not fair on this years acts, I agree, but something has to be done about the farce this show is becoming.

[Tom]

Simon won't let him win either way, do you really think he would have him on his label and releasing an album? He would just make sure the press was negative for the week leading up to it, and then if Wagner still got the most votes he would probably just fix it.

If it looks like a Wagner win is possible then Simon will just amend the record contract to decrease its value and probably make it so he'll be able to drop Wagner after the winners single. If he does win it will be a good wake up call for them to stop putting through novelty acts ahead of genuine acts, it happens year after year

I hope he does win because then they can stop overhyping the show. Wagner will be a massive stain on the shows (lack of) credibility and there is no way they can twist that in a positive light

[Vicky.]

I hope he does win because then they can stop overhyping the show. Wagner will be a massive stain on the shows (lack of) credibility and there is no way they can twist that in a positive light

There has also been rumours that the winner of this years XF will be opening the first show of XF USA. Imagine Simon introducing Wagner as the best singer UK could find...would be priceless :D

Though as I said, they are just rumours, and if true he would probably change all that and put leona on instead, but the thought is amusing :p

[fruit_cake]

There has also been rumours that the winner of this years XF will be opening the first show of XF USA. Imagine Simon introducing Wagner as the best singer UK could find...would be priceless :D


thats worth voting for!!:dance:

[Merry Mockmas]

no chance,but i do think he could get 3rd or 4th.

[Jordan.]

NO. The furthest he will possibly get is the Semi Final, Then he'll be back in his cave for the rest of his life.

[joeysteele]

There is as kazanne says something different as to Wagners votes, I have in past weeks given him a vote but he wouldn't ever be my choice to win it.

Having said that I know a great many people who are voting for him week in week out, they have also increased considerably their votes for him, the odd thing further is that many of them don't even watch X Factor they just have the voting number for Wagner and are voting for him.
Some have never even seen his perform, they are doing it just to get at Simon as its his show and they wrongly believe Simon has brought the music industry down.

As someone said to me on here when I mentioned that before, those people voting for Wagner cannot see that they are not really bothering Simon, he is raking in the funds for his show from all the phone calls so cannot lose really.

[Jack_]

He's in with a chance, and, I'll admit, it would be fairly amusing...for the first few minutes. Oh, and if he got Christmas #1, but that's it really.

People are entitled to vote for who they want, so there's not a problem there - but what makes me laugh the most is people who are backing Wagner to 'spite Simon'. This is where serious delusion comes into play. A Wagner win would ensure more controversy, more press attention, more hype for the next series and thus more viewers. All in all it should equal more votes and more money for him. Simon will never be beaten and it's about time some people grasped this.

With regards to the winner opening the XF USA Results Show - again, it's not Simon that will be to blame - it'll be the British public. This country will become a laughing stock in the eyes of the Americans. If that's what people want, then so be it. But Simon will not be affected or bothered. After all, it's the public that choses the winner - so it's them that will be laughed at, not Simon.

[nanaimo]

stop picking on wagner, you would think he just walked into the show himself, he was put through by louis, don't blame or hate him, hate louis and simon, because the latter loves the publicity and controversy, he is making money no matter what.

[Kazanne]

Simon gave him a yes at auditions as did Cheryl. Simon also put him through bootcamp and to judges houses. Ultimately Louis put him through to the live shows, but wasnt he his wildcard choice?

Simon tries to manipulate people to vote for who he wants via various methods...leaking negative/positive stories to the press...over praising acts, telling people certain acts are safe when they are far from it...that kind of thing. And also this year, the decision of saving katie 4 times even though it is obviously against the publics wishes has guaranteed Wagner a LOT more votes than he originally had.

It is not fair on this years acts, I agree, but something has to be done about the farce this show is becoming.

I really don't think Simon does that,I think he likes Katie that's all,it's a poor show when people are guided by someone elses view,surely they have their own mind,but there are an awful lot of sheep out there,or does Simon have some hypnotic powers that i am not aware of.If people want to be led by him,that's their fault.not his.

[King Gizzard]

Hopefully

Nothing funnier then seeing Simon have to sign this guy and lose a load of money (more than the amount that people have given him by voting Wagner in the first place)

[Kazanne]

thats worth voting for!!:dance:

What,you want the Americans to see that the British choice in music is ****e,lol,whatever floats your boat,I hope Simon explains that it is what the British voted for,LOL it even makes me laugh,what numpties we are,just to prove we can use a phone and vote.No wonder we never win anything:joker:

[Kazanne]

Hopefully

Nothing funnier then seeing Simon have to sign this guy and lose a load of money (more than the amount that people have given him by voting Wagner in the first place)

People really are deluded if they think Simon will lose from this,LOL,and why would it make you laugh to see him lose money?I don't get that,such envy is unhealthy.

[james130]

If Cher goes then i'll be voting for him.

[Zippy]

Even if he won everybody would know it was for perverse reasons. And he would totally fail as a musical artist in the real world. So it would be a shallow victory.

Simon wouldnt lose anything as he just wouldnt spend much on him anyways. It would be nothing to him financially on a personal level. He will make a lot more from the extra Wagner votes and all the extra publicity that him staying in the competition would generate.

So please dont anybody delude themselves that you can get at Cowell via Wagner. One direction will still get signed to his label. And any other artist he fancies too. So he's in a win win situation regardless.

[keithafc]

Well Cher will be back up this week, some of her lazy fans thought she was safe last saturday :nono: But Wagner may just be one above the act of the bottom two every week or something... he won't get much further, I'll give him 2 more weeks.
Do you get paid by Cheryl cole or something to put these myths around? Cher was in the bottom two because she was voted the least, next to pajie. No one was lazy.

If that was the case, why do Matt and Rebecca still get votes? Chers time is coming to an end on the X factor. Same with Katie.

Wagner on the other hand seems to be growing in strength. I bet Wagner is getting more votes with every show.

[keithafc]

Wagners support is growing all the time, peoples favs who are going out are even voting for Wagner now. Huge campaigns too.

The whole Rage thing has changed the mentality and i think the X factor and Simon Cowell are in trouble because Wagner isn't going anywhere.

[Merry Mockmas]

Wagners support is growing all the time, peoples favs who are going out are even voting for Wagner now. Huge campaigns too.

The whole Rage thing has changed the mentality and i think the X factor and Simon Cowell are in trouble because Wagner isn't going anywhere.

if matt goes after his behaviour this week then im going to wagner.

afterall if they can keep katie in four times then we can vote for wagner.:devil:

[Zippy]

if matt goes after his behaviour this week then im going to wagner.

afterall if they can keep katie in four times then we can vote for wagner.:devil:

If Matt goes this week then you really are the kiss of death because everybody youve supported so far has been dumped.

So please do move on to Wagner next.

[Merry Mockmas]

If Matt goes this week then you really are the kiss of death because everybody youve supported so far has been dumped.

So please do move on to Wagner next.

for that im moving on to katie waissel then one direction.:devil: