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nanaimo
05-12-2010, 09:59 PM
Any person with a good sense of whats better would know that Mary was far superior in the sing off, she was brillant and Cher was very weak in all fairness, think it should be called the fiX Factor, Simon should have done the descent thing and let it go to deadlock, why oh why was he looking at Cheryl, was he afraid she would punch him or not give him any later, pathetic, if Cher wins, i won't be watching next year.I hope Rebecca, Matt oer even one erection win over that horrible beast of a child.

Iceman
05-12-2010, 10:00 PM
Nah she wasnt let it go, it was obvious she was going this week.

nanaimo
05-12-2010, 10:01 PM
Nah she wasnt let it go, it was obvious she was going this week.

yeah i agree with what you say but i am talking about the sing off and Mary was far better

cub
05-12-2010, 10:02 PM
Best result. Mary has accepted defeat and so should her fan. I means fans.

See on the the cruise ships and your tour of the working men's clubs, Mary.

BB_Eye
05-12-2010, 10:02 PM
It would have been a crying shame if Mary were actually a good singer.

Stacey.
05-12-2010, 10:05 PM
Mary talked, then shouted. Cher can actually sing, that's why she got through :)

nanaimo
05-12-2010, 10:05 PM
Mary talked, then shouted. Cher can actually sing, that's why she got through :)

Sorry i disagree

Jordan.
05-12-2010, 10:08 PM
Let it go.

cub
05-12-2010, 10:08 PM
Mary = old fashioned.

30stone
05-12-2010, 10:09 PM
She was better than she has been.

Last week she was good this week she was average, and she had got continually worse, sounded more and more kareoke in my mothers words.

Cher was always going to stay tonight up against her.

Cher impressed me.

Stacey.
05-12-2010, 10:09 PM
Sorry i disagree

Shame.

The judges obviously don't.

ElProximo
06-12-2010, 02:00 AM
Shame.

The judges obviously don't.

The judges did disagree with you. They either praised Mary's singing, praised her as a performer.
1 picked Mary as the better singer.
1 apologetically picked Cher as it was her 'team'.

So you obviously disagree with the judges.

We may never know but this was probably a robbery. If it went to public vote I suspect (don't know) but my guess is that Mary would have gone through,
however,
Cher, though a bad singer, is also a big appeal to the kind of demographic they want here. Excited teenagers with topped-up mobile phones and who will buy a lot of fizzy juice Simon (via CherL) will eventually sell them.

Tom4784
06-12-2010, 02:07 AM
Mary bores me, she's done the same thing since week 1. I'll hate them all after it finishes but until then I'd prefer to watch Cher as she's at least a bit more interesting then Mary.

Kerry
06-12-2010, 02:08 AM
Mary just yelled down the mic. It was terrible

Zippy
06-12-2010, 02:25 AM
Mary is a shouty one trick pony. We definitely do not want her predictable pub cabaret drabness in the finals. Especially when Louis would probably have wheeled out Westlife to bloody sing with her...no thanks!

Like her or not, Cher is the big star of XF 2010 and the judges know this and want her there for the final. She will not win but has earned top 4 at least.

MrWong
06-12-2010, 08:38 AM
Mary was crap and only got this far because Ireland gets to vote this year.

Every poll had her bottom of the vote and the only reason she's getting support now is because of the anti Cher stance bitter folk are taking.

A poor man's Jane Macdonald. :sleep:

Kazanne
06-12-2010, 09:23 AM
Any person with a good sense of whats better would know that Mary was far superior in the sing off, she was brillant and Cher was very weak in all fairness, think it should be called the fiX Factor, Simon should have done the descent thing and let it go to deadlock, why oh why was he looking at Cheryl, was he afraid she would punch him or not give him any later, pathetic, if Cher wins, i won't be watching next year.I hope Rebecca, Matt oer even one erection win over that horrible beast of a child.

She was mugged and robbed,she is a far better singer,we all know why Mary went,she aint stick thin with an attitude,and she took it so gracefully,something stinks about last night.

GiRTh
06-12-2010, 09:57 AM
More fix allegations.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2010/12/06/new-x-factor-fix-fury-as-mary-is-axed-in-surprise-sing-off-115875-22764434/

GiRTh
06-12-2010, 10:42 AM
More sh*t for King Simon to clean up.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s103/the-x-factor/news/a291620/cher-mary-sing-off-sparks-x-factor-anger.html

It is very odd that in this series we've had a sing off in the semi for the first time ever.

nanaimo
06-12-2010, 10:50 AM
Mary was crap and only got this far because Ireland gets to vote this year.

Every poll had her bottom of the vote and the only reason she's getting support now is because of the anti Cher stance bitter folk are taking.

A poor man's Jane Macdonald. :sleep:

I am irish and i voted for Rebecca and have friends here that vote for matt, i have friends in England that love mary and vote for her and irish teenages here love one direction and cher, so this statement is pure hogwash.

Vodka Drinka
06-12-2010, 11:18 AM
Mary was much better, but of course what Princess Cheryl wants, Princess Cheryl gets. She wanted to sing a duet with her pet Bratz doll in the final, and if Princess Cheryl doesn't get her own way she stamps her feet at Uncle Simon.

MrWong
06-12-2010, 11:55 AM
I am irish and i voted for Rebecca and have friends here that vote for matt, i have friends in England that love mary and vote for her and irish teenages here love one direction and cher, so this statement is pure hogwash.

I'm not arsed what a handful of your friends voted. Mary was bottom of every poll. Her main support came from Ireland with newspapers, TV and radio shows continuously asking for the country to vote. If she makes a record you can bet that a large majority of her sales will be from Ireland.

Mary was much better, but of course what Princess Cheryl wants, Princess Cheryl gets. She wanted to sing a duet with her pet Bratz doll in the final, and if Princess Cheryl doesn't get her own way she stamps her feet at Uncle Simon.

Do you honestly believe that this will happen? Come on now! It was a throwaway comment directed at a caller on Xtra Factor. They were joking.
The Cher/Cheryl final duet will not happen.

nanaimo
06-12-2010, 12:11 PM
I'm not arsed what a handful of your friends voted. Mary was bottom of every poll. Her main support came from Ireland with newspapers, TV and radio shows continuously asking for the country to vote. If she makes a record you can bet that a large majority of her sales will be from Ireland.



Do you honestly believe that this will happen? Come on now! It was a throwaway comment directed at a caller on Xtra Factor. They were joking.
The Cher/Cheryl final duet will not happen.

i'm not arsed either what you believe tbh, just don't believe everything you read.Anyway cher will be forgotten faster than you think.

Ammi
06-12-2010, 12:15 PM
I am not a Cher fan or a Cheryl fan but tbh it was Mary's time to go and it was a fair decision, she wasn't robbed at all. She was great in the sing off and I thought she would take some beating and was getting ready to scream at the telly if Cher got through, but to be honest Cher surprised me, she was good, dare I say better than Mary - imo she was and for the first time I was impressed with her. Good for Danni that she stayed true to herself and judged on that performance only. She has always praised Mary and she didn't change on that, she simply voted on Cher being the best in the sing off. No conspiricies, no fixes its a good decision, whether its one people like or not - well thats another story...............but imo its still the right one. I'm really looking forward to the final...

stewart64
06-12-2010, 12:19 PM
Mary just yelled down the mic. It was terrible


Agree she was bit shouty. A joke to even compare karioke Mary and Cher. Are international artists queueing up to duet with Mary?

GiRTh
06-12-2010, 12:45 PM
Its not really about who won the sing off. Personally I think Mary won. Its about Dermot on Saturday night saying directly into camera 'You and only you will decide who goes thru to the final". Then we tune in on Sunday to find we've got a sing off and the judges will decide. The X-Factor website also implied there would be no sing off. What happened between Saturday night and Sunday night for them to suddenly decide to have a sing off?

Articles I have read as good as say that the producers decided late on Sunday as the show was going out. Who made this decision and why?

nanaimo
06-12-2010, 12:47 PM
Its not really about who won the sing off. Personally I think Mary won. Its about Dermot on Saturday night saying directly into camera 'You and only you will decide who goes thru to the final". Then we tune in on Sunday to find we've got a sing off and the judges will decide. The X-Factor website also implied there would be no sing off. What happened between Saturday night and Sunday night for them to suddenly decide to have a sing off?

Articles I have read as good as say that the producers decided late on Sunday as the show was going out. Who made this decision and why?

Safety net for Cher, thats what happened ;)

Tom4784
06-12-2010, 12:53 PM
I'm just glad she went, I'd rather watch Cher then watch 2-3 more of the same performances from Mary. I don't really care if it's fixed or not, I don't vote and I'm not gonna care either way after next week.

seaodw
06-12-2010, 05:03 PM
mary was on an irish radio station there about an hour ago and confirmed that the contestants where only told about the sing off on sunday morning. this just adds more to all these fix allegations

Mystic Mock
06-12-2010, 05:05 PM
Any person with a good sense of whats better would know that Mary was far superior in the sing off, she was brillant and Cher was very weak in all fairness, think it should be called the fiX Factor, Simon should have done the descent thing and let it go to deadlock, why oh why was he looking at Cheryl, was he afraid she would punch him or not give him any later, pathetic, if Cher wins, i won't be watching next year.I hope Rebecca, Matt oer even one erection win over that horrible beast of a child.

no i want cher to beat one direction.:joker:

i agree with you about sending it to deadlock as it was both 2nd time in the bottom two,and it would have meant the public had the final say.

Zippy
06-12-2010, 05:11 PM
Mary repeated an old performance in the sing off. Seen it already! I remember certain members moaning when Cher sang Stay in the sing off.

and considering that it was Mary in the bottom two just last week(not Cher) and that Mary was not very good on saturday either I really don't know why you assume Cher got least votes this week. More likely Mary did!

Braden
06-12-2010, 05:12 PM
Was just on facebook and saw "The awkward moment when Mary scans the winner's CD at Tescos"
I'm dying.

Mystic Mock
06-12-2010, 05:23 PM
Mary repeated an old performance in the sing off. Seen it already! I remember certain members moaning when Cher sang Stay in the sing off.

and considering that it was Mary in the bottom two just last week(not Cher) and that Mary was not very good on saturday either I really don't know why you assume Cher got least votes this week. More likely Mary did!

because mary was on rebound and cher hit the bottom two before mary did,so its quite easy to assume cher came bottom of the votes.

Zippy
06-12-2010, 05:31 PM
because mary was on rebound and cher hit the bottom two before mary did,so its quite easy to assume cher came bottom of the votes.

yeah, very easy if it suits!

Cher's support is growing, Marys was sinking.

Tom4784
06-12-2010, 05:32 PM
because mary was on rebound and cher hit the bottom two before mary did,so its quite easy to assume cher came bottom of the votes.

'assume'

Until the voting statistics come out nobody can say either way and it's just foolish to guess.

Vicky.
06-12-2010, 05:44 PM
I am not a Cher fan or a Cheryl fan but tbh it was Mary's time to go and it was a fair decision, she wasn't robbed at all.

Whilst I do agree that it was marys time to go..after all she would never win(but neither will cher without a bit more help from simon)...it was NOT a fair decision at all. Why should the judges be able to potentially overrule the public for who gets to the final?

Edit. Especially after dermot telling us on saturday that 'your votes and your votes alone will decide the finalists' ;)

Mystic Mock
06-12-2010, 05:45 PM
'assume'

Until the voting statistics come out nobody can say either way and it's just foolish to guess.

i said assume?

Zippy
06-12-2010, 05:49 PM
Edit. Especially after dermot telling us on saturday that 'your votes and your votes alone will decide the finalists' ;)

did he?

well yeah thats a bit fishy then. Mind you, this series they seem to be making it up as they go along. Like with the whole Cheryl abstaining fiasco.

None of which is the contestants fault though.

Kazanne
06-12-2010, 05:53 PM
Mary was much better, but of course what Princess Cheryl wants, Princess Cheryl gets. She wanted to sing a duet with her pet Bratz doll in the final, and if Princess Cheryl doesn't get her own way she stamps her feet at Uncle Simon.

And she might just lamp him one,lol,she already has form.

arista
06-12-2010, 05:57 PM
More fix allegations.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2010/12/06/new-x-factor-fix-fury-as-mary-is-axed-in-surprise-sing-off-115875-22764434/


Yes But it is Legit.

Simon's choice is not under pathetic bitter mirrot dead paper, control.



Feel The Force.

Zippy
06-12-2010, 05:59 PM
And she might just lamp him one,lol,she already has form.

Please learn to put a space after your commas.

robb
06-12-2010, 06:05 PM
Any person with a good sense of whats better would know that Mary was far superior in the sing off, she was brillant and Cher was very weak in all fairness, think it should be called the fiX Factor, Simon should have done the descent thing and let it go to deadlock, why oh why was he looking at Cheryl, was he afraid she would punch him or not give him any later, pathetic, if Cher wins, i won't be watching next year.I hope Rebecca, Matt oer even one erection win over that horrible beast of a child.

Sounds like your a member of the ABC (Anyone But Cher) Club!!! :blush:

Trouble is, Mary didn't turn the tears on as well as Cher. Same sort of thing happened to Gamu, Treyc, Paige, etc etc etc...........

robb
06-12-2010, 06:09 PM
Whilst I do agree that it was marys time to go..after all she would never win(but neither will cher without a bit more help from simon)...it was NOT a fair decision at all. Why should the judges be able to potentially overrule the public for who gets to the final?

Edit. Especially after dermot telling us on saturday that 'your votes and your votes alone will decide the finalists' ;)

Yes, Dermot......what a ******* joke that was.

I'm presuming Simon will employ snipers this week to take out Matt and Rebecca, just to make sure that One Dimension and Cher finish 1 and 2 :hugesmile:

ElProximo
06-12-2010, 11:11 PM
To get a wee bit serious now..

..favourites or not there is, possibly, a 'confidence trick' happening here. Viewers are asked to pick up the phone and vote to get their favourite through and may be misled by that.
IF they really are to be 'completely transparent' as Dermot suggests then the advice to the viewers ought to clarify that you have to vote you fave - at least - the third last place.
(how can we phrase that better?)
Explain that you (the viewer) cannot necessarily vote your fave to go on. That they have to be voted 'past' 2 others.

The obvious problem is that x-million dump cash on X-Factor to get 'Mary' (or whoever) well ahead,
but,
see their 'investment' canceled-out.

Now this may be some 'short-term gain' for X-Factor when they see big-money Mary can make more money on tour or get her started on the Christmas Single,
versus,
the soda pop princess can make them more cash for a few weeks.
OK.
Having said that, they ought not be too surprised when, next season, there is a dramatic drop in phone voting.
(if there is?).

keithafc
07-12-2010, 02:54 AM
The show is utter horse sh*t anyway. Full of crap singers. None of them are talented.

Wagner was the only interesting one in the show.

robb
07-12-2010, 12:14 PM
I see Cowell is saying that when they have been down to the last 5 before, it has always been a sing-off. Has it? Didn't Ruth Lorenzo finish fifth (Vickers came fourth a week later, remember?). Ruth was booted out without a sing off if I remember right, Mr. Cowell.......

Niamh.
07-12-2010, 12:25 PM
I am irish and i voted for Rebecca and have friends here that vote for matt, i have friends in England that love mary and vote for her and irish teenages here love one direction and cher, so this statement is pure hogwash.

yeah this, as an Irish person Matt is my favourite, no one I know here voted for Mary, they all either like Matt or Rebecca.

joeysteele
07-12-2010, 01:04 PM
I see Cowell is saying that when they have been down to the last 5 before, it has always been a sing-off. Has it? Didn't Ruth Lorenzo finish fifth (Vickers came fourth a week later, remember?). Ruth was booted out without a sing off if I remember right, Mr. Cowell.......

Mr Cowell has developed a very selective memory in this X Factor series, that selective memory does not remove the fact that certaianly this weekend by the X Factor website and Dermot himself no one one voting believed there would be a sing off.

As to him saying Mary and the acts knew there'd be a isng off on the monday that is utter nonsense, Mary said they were only told on the Sunday,then backtracked to Saturday very unconvincingly.

He is literally taking the public for fools this year and ALL he ever had to do was sit down and explain to the viewers on either X Factor or the Xtra Factor any changes to the format this year, accommodating just one more act in the final should not need to have led to all this confuaion, anger and misleading of the public, no way.