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Kazanne
11-12-2010, 02:50 PM
Aw poor Matt,news is that his voice is not fully restored and it's looking iffy for tonight,he still has tonsillitas and he may not be able to sing at ALL,great news for all the others,but what a shame,as he is so good and he does need to be in fine voice tonight,I will have fingers toes and everything crossed that he will be ok,but it's looking doubtful,I wonder if they would disqualify him if his voice is still gone?

Stacey.
11-12-2010, 02:50 PM
LOL thought that was his excuse last week?

Tom4784
11-12-2010, 02:52 PM
Good news finally. I'd accept him winning if he wasn't going to murder Many of Horror but since he's doing it I hope he loses his voice and falls flat on his face.

Pyramid*
11-12-2010, 02:54 PM
LOL thought that was his excuse last week?

Tonsilitis doesn' go away after a few days....

plus,


it didn't stop him from not getting voted into the bottom two.

Pyramid*
11-12-2010, 02:54 PM
Good news finally. I'd accept him winning if he wasn't going to murder Many of Horror but since he's doing it I hope he loses his voice and falls flat on his face.


You don't know if he's going to 'murder' Many of Horror....... geezus.

Kazanne
11-12-2010, 02:55 PM
LOL thought that was his excuse last week?

Why is it an excuse?anyone with eyesight could see he was not well last week,Lots of people have this bug ,I have it myself,it's not good,but count your blessings ,it's lucky for YOU he is ill as it gives Cher a better chance,and boy she needs it.

Stacey.
11-12-2010, 02:55 PM
Tonsilitis doesn' go away after a few days....

plus,


it didn't stop him from not getting voted into the bottom two.

You couldn't even tell there was anything wrong with his voice though... just his back-up incase it all goes wrong :pat:

Kazanne
11-12-2010, 02:56 PM
Good news finally. I'd accept him winning if he wasn't going to murder Many of Horror but since he's doing it I hope he loses his voice and falls flat on his face.

How nasty.

Stacey.
11-12-2010, 02:56 PM
Why is it an excuse?anyone with eyesight could see he was not well last week,Lots of people have this bug ,I have it myself,it's not good,but count your blessings ,it's lucky for YOU he is ill as it gives Cher a better chance,and boy she needs it.

I couldn't tell there was anything wrong with him, he sounded and looked fine.

Let's be honest, Cher isn't gonna get past Matt anyway whether he's ill or not.

Kazanne
11-12-2010, 02:57 PM
You couldn't even tell there was anything wrong with his voice though... just his back-up incase it all goes wrong :pat:

If you say so,seems that the Cher fans are very much like her!

ILoveTRW
11-12-2010, 02:57 PM
Cry me a ****ing river.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
11-12-2010, 02:57 PM
matt needs to stay in bed and rest

with me :lovedup:

Tom4784
11-12-2010, 02:57 PM
You don't know if he's going to 'murder' Many of Horror....... geezus.

He has no depth to his voice, it's one note, it's girly. You need a voice with a bit of grit and character to pull it off and we all remember how laughable it was when Matt tried to do gritty in Come Together. He's an utter whelk that's only got as far as he has because of his looks and pretty much doing the same thing week in and out.

So yes he's going to murder it and even change it's name so he can take it as his own.

Stacey.
11-12-2010, 02:58 PM
If you say so,seems that the Cher fans are very much like her!

Thankyou for the compliment :)

Tom4784
11-12-2010, 02:58 PM
How nasty.

Apparently not as nasty as him, none of the contestants bar Aiden has ever had anything good to say about him.

Legend killer
11-12-2010, 03:00 PM
He still has it in the bag , i wouldn't worry too much

Pyramid*
11-12-2010, 03:05 PM
You couldn't even tell there was anything wrong with his voice though... just his back-up incase it all goes wrong :pat:


Clearly you have never had tonsilitis then? It's not just a sore throat, you could see he was fevered last week, you sleep like a dog, you are utterly lethargic. Even your fav's mentor acceded that the man clearly looked unwell. Or are you saying Cheryl was lying? Awwwh.. :pat:

Mind you, at least even with tonsilitis, he still didn't succumb to the indignation of being voted into the bottom two - unlike Cher. What a sad shame that her 'thousands of fans' decided to let her down at the crucial moment.

Not much point in having fans when they won't pick up phones and vote. LOL

Pyramid*
11-12-2010, 03:06 PM
Apparently not as nasty as him, none of the contestants bar Aiden has ever had anything good to say about him.


Brought about by nothing but sheer jealousy I'm quite sure.

Pyramid*
11-12-2010, 03:07 PM
If you say so,seems that the Cher fans are very much like her!


What...talentless? :o

That's a wee bit harsh...............................

:D

Tom4784
11-12-2010, 03:08 PM
Brought about by nothing but sheer jealousy I'm quite sure.

I'm not usually one to believe stuff like that, but many have alluded to a fake person that isn't who they seem and I reckon it's Matt, even in that official X Factor Magazine he's revealed that he's attacked other contestants in the press so he's no angel himself, just a very desperate contestant who'll do anything to win.

Stacey.
11-12-2010, 03:09 PM
Clearly you have never had tonsilitis then? It's not just a sore throat, you could see he was fevered last week, you sleep like a dog, you are utterly lethargic. Even your fav's mentor acceded that the man clearly looked unwell. Or are you saying Cheryl was lying? Awwwh.. :pat:

Mind you, at least even with tonsilitis, he still didn't succumb to the indignation of being voted into the bottom two - unlike Cher. What a sad shame that her 'thousands of fans' decided to let her down at the crucial moment.

Not much point in having fans when they won't pick up phones and vote. LOL

No I haven't but I know people who have done. Anyway, it clearly didn't affect his voice, he sounded great as usual, if not better actually.

Maybe not, but that's not Cher's fault if her fans vote or not. I'll even admit it seems pointless half the time, it's like my few votes aren't gonna make any difference -.-

Kazanne
11-12-2010, 03:11 PM
Good news finally. I'd accept him winning if he wasn't going to murder Many of Horror but since he's doing it I hope he loses his voice and falls flat on his face.

Oh,I'de prefer for Matt to win with everyone in the contest and playing fair.

Pyramid*
11-12-2010, 03:12 PM
No I haven't but I know people who have done. Anyway, it clearly didn't affect his voice, he sounded great as usual, if not better actually.

Maybe not, but that's not Cher's fault if her fans vote or not. I'll even admit it seems pointless half the time, it's like my few votes aren't gonna make any difference -.-

And you are aware that the older you are, the worse the effects of tonsilitis tend to be?

The man was ill, wasn't able to practise, wasn't able to rehearse and still managed to escape the bottom two. You don't get that level of support for nothing....... he clearly has more fans than Cher does.

Pyramid*
11-12-2010, 03:14 PM
I'm not usually one to believe stuff like that, but many have alluded to a fake person that isn't who they seem and I reckon it's Matt, even in that official X Factor Magazine he's revealed that he's attacked other contestants in the press so he's no angel himself, just a very desperate contestant who'll do anything to win.

Personally, I'd say (and especially at these latter stages), very few of the contestants will be busom buddies: it's a cut throat business they are trying to get into, and I very much doubt many of those left have any real love lost for each other -they are all looking out for number one - themselves. That's the way it goes. That's showbiz.

Novo
11-12-2010, 03:15 PM
Great news, we need Rebecca to fall down the X factor house stairs now and somebody from One direction to come down with a deadly case of Malaria

Stacey.
11-12-2010, 03:15 PM
And you are aware that the older you are, the worse the effects of tonsilitis tend to be?

The man was ill, wasn't able to practise, wasn't able to rehearse and still managed to escape the bottom two. You don't get that level of support for nothing....... he clearly has more fans than Cher does.

Well I've never studied it so no :L

He has his fans though, like even if Cher came out tonight and gave a totally **** performance [which I know she wouldn't but for example] well I'd still vote for her. He may have more fans, or Cher's just may not vote, who knows.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
11-12-2010, 03:16 PM
hes gonna flop is he wins anyway so i dont know why yall care

*hair flip*

Saph
11-12-2010, 03:18 PM
sore throat? aww the poor baby! Let me just get you some nice warm soup you ****ing pussy.

Tom4784
11-12-2010, 03:18 PM
Personally, I'd say (and especially at these latter stages), very few of the contestants will be busom buddies: it's a cut throat business they are trying to get into, and I very much doubt many of those left have any real love lost for each other -they are all looking out for number one - themselves. That's the way it goes. That's showbiz.

In fairness to most of the contestants though they haven't gone to the press to attack other people, Matt has. It's more of a representation of his personality rather then anyone else's.

Pyramid*
11-12-2010, 03:31 PM
Well I've never studied it so no :L

He has his fans though, like even if Cher came out tonight and gave a totally **** performance [which I know she wouldn't but for example] well I'd still vote for her. He may have more fans, or Cher's just may not vote, who knows.

You don't have to study it. You simply have to know enough about tonsilitis in adults to realise it is far more than just having a little sore throat.

You clearly are a devoted Cher fan - that goes without saying and at least you are true to your word, and are sticking by her, regardless. Good for you. (and I'm not being sarky there, I'm being honest)

Pyramid*
11-12-2010, 03:33 PM
In fairness to most of the contestants though they haven't gone to the press to attack other people, Matt has. It's more of a representation of his personality rather then anyone else's.


Perhaps Matt had very good reason. People don't often do things for no real reason, just for the sheer hell of going to the press. Often they are put into a position that to remain silent, is simply untenable.

Tom4784
11-12-2010, 03:34 PM
Perhaps Matt had very good reason. People don't often do things for no real reason, just for the sheer hell of going to the press. Often they are put into a position that to remain silent, is simply untenable.

I think it's more likely he's desperate to win and wanted to sabotage the rest of them, like you yourself said it's cut throat.

Pyramid*
11-12-2010, 03:39 PM
I think it's more likely he's desperate to win and wanted to sabotage the rest of them, like you yourself said it's cut throat.


And I don't, therein lies the difference of opinion.

Matt may be goal orientated but he does not come across as malicious. As I say, I suspect it's a case of he was put into a situation whereby he felt he had to clear the muddied waters.

Kazanne
11-12-2010, 03:41 PM
Perhaps Matt had very good reason. People don't often do things for no real reason, just for the sheer hell of going to the press. Often they are put into a position that to remain silent, is simply untenable.

I remember 'someone' said he was annoyed that Katie had said they were having a fling,can you blame him?she was lying,and i do think that anything in the press should be taken with a pinch of salt(they have their faves too)Simon himself said he had got to know Matt and that he was a very genuine SINCERE guy,maybe with Matt,what you see is what you get,no pretence with Matt,seems the press are only true if the story is derogotary about someone people don't like.Lots of people have said Matt is a nice guy,of course people wont believe that if they don't like him,they want to reinforce anything bad.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
11-12-2010, 03:42 PM
hes not even poor either he just says that to gain sympathy

*hair flip*

Pyramid*
11-12-2010, 03:44 PM
hes not even poor either he just says that to gain sympathy

*hair flip*


What's his financial status got to do with anything?

Pyramid*
11-12-2010, 03:46 PM
I remember 'someone' said he was annoyed that Katie had said they were having a fling,can you blame him?she was lying,and i do think that anything in the press should be taken with a pinch of salt(they have their faves too)Simon himself said he had got to know Matt and that he was a very genuine SINCERE guy,maybe with Matt,what you see is what you get,no pretence with Matt,seems the press are only true if the story is derogotary about someone people don't like.Lots of people have said Matt is a nice guy,of course people wont believe that if they don't like him,they want to reinforce anything bad.

Precisely my point earlier Kazanne - I suspect he was very much in the position of having to speak and to defend himself - to put halt to gossip and rumour mongering.

Tom4784
11-12-2010, 03:50 PM
hes not even poor either he just says that to gain sympathy

*hair flip*

I think he's looking for the sympathy vote, I have Tonsilitis a lot pretty much once a year if I'm lucky and more if I'm not. I can barely move when I get it and it takes weeks for me to feel 100% again, he might have been ill last week but it wasn't tonsilitis, you can't sing like that with it, I can barely stand and can't talk at all when I've got it. I reckon he might have had a cold and was trying to look for sympathy at best.

I remember 'someone' said he was annoyed that Katie had said they were having a fling,can you blame him?she was lying,and i do think that anything in the press should be taken with a pinch of salt(they have their faves too)Simon himself said he had got to know Matt and that he was a very genuine SINCERE guy,maybe with Matt,what you see is what you get,no pretence with Matt,seems the press are only true if the story is derogotary about someone people don't like.Lots of people have said Matt is a nice guy,of course people wont believe that if they don't like him,they want to reinforce anything bad.

I'm talking about the times when he's gone to that X Magazine and called the others *****s for acting like Divas. It's very unprofessional, At least Rebecca has the decency to rise above it all.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
11-12-2010, 03:51 PM
What's his financial status got to do with anything?

cos he brings it up all the time D:

Kazanne
11-12-2010, 03:57 PM
I think he's looking for the sympathy vote, I have Tonsilitis a lot pretty much once a year if I'm lucky and more if I'm not. I can barely move when I get it and it takes weeks for me to feel 100% again, he might have been ill last week but it wasn't tonsilitis, you can't sing like that with it, I can barely stand and can't talk at all when I've got it. I reckon he might have had a cold and was trying to look for sympathy at best.



I'm talking about the times when he's gone to that X Magazine and called the others *****s for acting like Divas. It's very unprofessional, At least Rebecca has the deceny to rise above it all.

And you were there when he said this?right.If he was that bad he wouldn't have said it openly would he?he has probably said something that has been taken way out of proportion,but that would not suffice the 'haters' would it.

Mr XcX
11-12-2010, 03:58 PM
He will be safe tonight. I hope.

He could be in a coma and still beat FAKE SLUT Cher and WANDERECTION!!

Mr XcX
11-12-2010, 03:59 PM
I think he's looking for the sympathy vote, I have Tonsilitis a lot pretty much once a year if I'm lucky and more if I'm not. I can barely move when I get it and it takes weeks for me to feel 100% again, he might have been ill last week but it wasn't tonsilitis, you can't sing like that with it, I can barely stand and can't talk at all when I've got it. I reckon he might have had a cold and was trying to look for sympathy at best.



I'm talking about the times when he's gone to that X Magazine and called the others *****s for acting like Divas. It's very unprofessional, At least Rebecca has the deceny to rise above it all.

That's because the boring COW has no personality.

Matt is the best singer of the lot.

End of.

joeysteele
11-12-2010, 04:00 PM
Tonsillitis or not, this means loads to Matt and he will come out and give his all, he can worry about his voice and illness next week.

I have all faith he will be there, do his absolute best and even with an illness,his best is still way above the others in the competition.

Tom4784
11-12-2010, 04:02 PM
And you were there when he said this?right.If he was that bad he wouldn't have said it openly would he?he has probably said something that has been taken way out of proportion,but that would not suffice the 'haters' would it.

Considering he said it in their official magazine is pretty damning. You can slam the 'haters' but blind faith is just as bad.

Mr XcX
11-12-2010, 04:02 PM
I find it laughable anyone can call Matt boring compared to Walking corpse Rebecca.

OneDIREction have the same personality too. Boring, Bland and FAKE.

Tom4784
11-12-2010, 04:04 PM
That's because the boring COW has no personality.

Matt is the best singer of the lot.

End of.

I wouldn't say so, he's got a pretty voice but it's plain and lacks distinction and character. He relies on the high & big notes because his voice doesn't have the thrall to keep an audience otherwise. He's a male Leona at best really, pretty voice but not much else.

Tom4784
11-12-2010, 04:05 PM
I find it laughable anyone can call Matt boring compared to Walking corpse Rebecca.

OneDIREction have the same personality too. Boring, Bland and FAKE.

Her voice is much more layered, subtle and interesting, she doesn't need falsetto or big stupid notes because she's a master of the understated. Less is more.

Pyramid*
11-12-2010, 04:06 PM
I think he's looking for the sympathy vote, I have Tonsilitis a lot pretty much once a year if I'm lucky and more if I'm not. I can barely move when I get it and it takes weeks for me to feel 100% again, he might have been ill last week but it wasn't tonsilitis, you can't sing like that with it, I can barely stand and can't talk at all when I've got it. I reckon he might have had a cold and was trying to look for sympathy at best.



I'm talking about the times when he's gone to that X Magazine and called the others *****s for acting like Divas. It's very unprofessional, At least Rebecca has the deceny to rise above it all.


No disrespect to you, but seeing as you have not examined Matt, (and I presume, are not a doctor or ENT specialist either), you aren't in a position to say he didn't have tonsilitis. I'd rather go with the reports from the XFactor directly.

If you suffer from tonsilitis yourself, you will be therefore very aware that it affects people in many different ways.

I have years that I get it 2 or 3 times a year, (and some years pass with no bouts) and whilst it does not totally floor me the way it appears to do with you - I do have the most awful fevers, skin clammy, throbbing throat, pounding head and ears - but I can still function where I have to. I can still speak but it is excruciatingly painful, but I can use my vocal chords.

Mr XcX
11-12-2010, 04:06 PM
I wouldn't say so, he's got a pretty voice but it's plain and lacks distinction and character. He relies on the high & big notes because his voice doesn't have the thrall to keep an audience otherwise. He's a male Leona at best really, pretty voice but not much else.

Compared to WHAT.

The Mime act WANDERECTION who just play a CD. Cher who cringely raps. Or Rebecca who sounds like she is GROWLING!!

Jack_
11-12-2010, 04:07 PM
I like Matt but I hope this is true, it'll increase One Direction's chances of winning.

Mr XcX
11-12-2010, 04:08 PM
I like Matt but I hope this is true, it'll increase One Direction's chances of winning.

:rolleyes:

Pyramid*
11-12-2010, 04:09 PM
Tonsillitis or not, this means loads to Matt and he will come out and give his all, he can worry about his voice and illness next week.

I have all faith he will be there, do his absolute best and even with an illness,his best is still way above the others in the competition.


Well balanced post..... ill or not, he went for it, he could have just buckled under, but like every other contestant on there, he wants this as badly as any of the others, and did what he could, despite even looking very ill - affirmed by another mentor who has acts that are his competition - now THAT speaks volumes to me...... Cheryl said she could see he looked ill. He was. And still got himself through.

Jack_
11-12-2010, 04:10 PM
:rolleyes:

...and if you'll leave the forum if they win, it's even more of a reason for them to win! :dance:

Mr XcX
11-12-2010, 04:11 PM
...and if you'll leave the forum if they win, it's even more of a reason for them to win! :dance:

Can you make a promise that if they don't!

You will leave the forum!!!

:)

Tom4784
11-12-2010, 04:11 PM
No disrespect to you, but seeing as you have not examined Matt, (and I presume, are not a doctor or ENT specialist either), you aren't in a position to say he didn't have tonsilitis. I'd rather go with the reports from the XFactor directly.

If you suffer from tonsilitis yourself, you will be therefore very aware that it affects people in many different ways.

I have years that I get it 2 or 3 times a year, (and some years pass with no bouts) and whilst it does not totally floor me the way it appears to do with you - I do have the most awful fevers, skin clammy, throbbing throat, pounding head and ears - but I can still function where I have to. I can still speak but it is excruciatingly painful, but I can use my vocal chords.

But he still managed to reach those notes, when he was what? 1 week into the illness? Granted he looked Ill but I struggle to believe it was really tonsilitis if he was bedridden for a week but still managed to sing reasonably well, his voice would have been incredibly crackly and uneven but it wasn't. Given that he's *****d his job for sympathy all series it wouldn't surprise me if he's overselling the illness for sympathy too.

Jack_
11-12-2010, 04:13 PM
Can you make a promise that if they don't!

You will leave the forum!!!

:)

I'm afraid not :pat:

Mr XcX
11-12-2010, 04:14 PM
I'm afraid not :pat:

:bored:

Why not put your money where your mouth is!!!

Too afraid are we that I will win!! You will look the fool!!!

Kazanne
11-12-2010, 04:22 PM
Considering he said it in their official magazine is pretty damning. You can slam the 'haters' but blind faith is just as bad.

Well has it crossed your mind some of them may well have been acting like divas?and he was telling the truth? look how Cher comes across in interviews,infact the more i think about it,he's probably right,Cher when being interviewed on the TV last night said to Cheryl"Just think about it properly",LOL,I mean,cocky little so and so.It's not blind faith,I just believe in someone until they PROVE me wrong,Matt is not perfect,but then none of them are.

Pyramid*
11-12-2010, 04:24 PM
But he still managed to reach those notes, when he was what? 1 week into the illness? Granted he looked Ill but I struggle to believe it was really tonsilitis if he was bedridden for a week but still managed to sing reasonably well, his voice would have been incredibly crackly and uneven but it wasn't. Given that he's *****d his job for sympathy all series it wouldn't surprise me if he's overselling the illness for sympathy too.

You disbelieve the tonsitis based on the fact that he could sing. He deliberately did not practise all week, he didn't take part in the rehearsals for the same reason: to save his voice to allow him to give it as much as he could.

The man looked ready to drop on his feet after the second song, even his hair looked as though it was soaking wet, his face looked clammy and sweaty - he looked awful.

by your own admission now, you agree he looked ill. That's the bottom line - he was ill, clearly looked ill, affirmed by the all of the judges - he still was good enough to avoid the bottom two.

You don't get that for nothing. As for the whoring it comments: I think that's something you might want to direct to Katie, rather than Matt - she was the one mouthing off about what they did or didn't get up to. ;)

Tom4784
11-12-2010, 04:24 PM
Well has it crossed your mind some of them may well have been acting like divas?and he was telling the truth? look how Cher comes across in interviews,infact the more i think about it,he's probably right,Cher when being interviewed on the TV last night said to Cheryl"Just think about it properly",LOL,I mean,cocky little so and so.It's not blind faith,I just believe in someone until they PROVE me wrong,Matt is not perfect,but then none of them are.

It's more professional to have not bitched about it though to the press, You don't see Rebecca having to sink to those depths.

Jack_
11-12-2010, 04:24 PM
:bored:

Why not put your money where your mouth is!!!

Too afraid are we that I will win!! You will look the fool!!!

Nope, I just don't want to leave this forum. Thanks anyway though.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
11-12-2010, 04:25 PM
FYI

wand erection, one erection, no erection

were funny for like 5 minutes

Kazanne
11-12-2010, 04:25 PM
But he still managed to reach those notes, when he was what? 1 week into the illness? Granted he looked Ill but I struggle to believe it was really tonsilitis if he was bedridden for a week but still managed to sing reasonably well, his voice would have been incredibly crackly and uneven but it wasn't. Given that he's *****d his job for sympathy all series it wouldn't surprise me if he's overselling the illness for sympathy too.

He was able to reach the notes simple BECAUSE he rested it all week.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
11-12-2010, 04:25 PM
It's more professional to have not bitched about it though to the press, You don't see Rebecca having to sink to those depths.

thats coz rebecca is lovely :lovedup:

Kazanne
11-12-2010, 04:27 PM
It's more professional to have not bitched about it though to the press, You don't see Rebecca having to sink to those depths.

Well according to the press she had a pop at Cher last week and Cheryl,or do we not believe THAT article?

Pyramid*
11-12-2010, 04:28 PM
It's more professional to have not bitched about it though to the press, You don't see Rebecca having to sink to those depths.

By your own admission here: Rebecca is about the only one who hasn't offered something unpleasant up, possibly because she is a mother with children and her focus is different. Rebecca also didn't have to get into a clinch with another contestant to keep herself in the press .....

But this thread is not about bitching, or Rebecca - or who says what about which contestant. Another time, another thread for that I think.

Tom4784
11-12-2010, 04:30 PM
You disbelieve the tonsitis based on the fact that he could sing. He deliberately did not practise all week, he didn't take part in the rehearsals for the same reason: to save his voice to allow him to give it as much as he could.

The man looked ready to drop on his feet after the second song, even his hair looked as though it was soaking wet, his face looked clammy and sweaty - he looked awful.

by your own admission now, you agree he looked ill. That's the bottom line - he was ill, clearly looked ill, affirmed by the all of the judges - he still was good enough to avoid the bottom two.

You don't get that for nothing. As for the whoring it comments: I think that's something you might want to direct to Katie, rather than Matt - she was the one mouthing off about what they did or didn't get up to. ;)

Matt's been doing the poor me act all series 'Oh I'm middle class but I'm a poor little painter wah wah' 'I've got a cold but now i'm gonna make out that it's something worse, give me sympathy please'. Katie is, quite frankly a silly comparision. She didn't talk to the press much until she was eliminated, they just made stories up about her. Matt on the other hand has doen interviews and has slammed the other contestants in them.

If he really did have tonsilitis then sorry but I truthfully believe he couldn't have sung that well, by your own admission earlier in the thread you said it gets worser as you get older, well Matt's 7 years older then me so by your logic he should get it worse no?

Jords
11-12-2010, 04:36 PM
LOL thought that was his excuse last week?

This tbh..