Matt will flop

[InOne]

You heard it here first :)

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

:worship:

rebecca >

[Jords]

Naaaaaaaaaaaaah.

[_Seth]

He will be the biggest flop. :thumbs:

[Kerry]

The only thing he has against him is the X Factor contract and the fact we now won't hear a peep until Xmas next year. Otherwise I can't see why on earth he would?? His voice is amazing

[Kerry]

He will be the biggest flop. :thumbs:

Steve brookthingies already done that

[Stacey.]

Don't think he will, and I hope he doesn't.

[Smithy]

He'll do what Shane has done, had a couple of fairly successful albums then get dropped after his 3rd

[Kazanne]

You heard it here first :)

You mean YOU hope he flops,but he wont

[Niamh.]

I don't think so, this is the first year since Will Young won Pop Idol that I really loved a contestant enough to vote and to actually buy their music after, and Will Young did very well so I'm going to trust my judgement on this one Joe!

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

the men are never as successful as the women

*hair flip*

[InOne]

You mean YOU hope he flops,but he wont

No, he WILL flop. He wasn't the star of the show this year, he's actually painfully boring and there is not much they can do with him. He's not diverse, he'll fail.

[Z]

Dunno about anyone else but I think he'll flop because he shares the same traits as each of the other male winners. Steve's fanbase, Shayne's voice, Leon's cute appeal and Joe's consistency. I don't know if that makes him into a winner who will succeed, or a summary of what doesn't appeal... (I don't know how best to word that, I hope people get what I mean though)

I think he will flop. I hope he doesn't, he deserved to win it just as much as Rebecca and One Direction, but that's my instinct.

[Locke.]

Well I'd have agreed with this until I saw the voting figures, topping the votes every single week apart from Week 1 shows just how big his fanbase is... Most other winners only top it about 3-4 times

[Kazanne]

You heard it here first :)

Not with a voice like this he wont
OgPTL-_wnCM

[Novo]

First single - #1
Second Single - #56
Third Single - #135

Matt's Career

[Zippy]

Looking at past flops he certainly fits the bill!

Rebecca, Cher and OD will do better....I'd wager good money.

[InOne]

Not with a voice like this he wont
OgPTL-_wnCM

A voice doesn't mean anything these days, especially on a show like X factor.

[Niamh.]

Dunno about anyone else but I think he'll flop because he shares the same traits as each of the other male winners. Steve's fanbase, Shayne's voice, Leon's cute appeal and Joe's consistency. I don't know if that makes him into a winner who will succeed, or a summary of what doesn't appeal... (I don't know how best to word that, I hope people get what I mean though)

I think he will flop. I hope he doesn't, he deserved to win it just as much as Rebecca and One Direction, but that's my instinct.

I think he's very different to those contestants you named though Greg, they only one out of the list who I liked out of those was Shayne but even for him I didn't like him enough to vote, he's more Will Young then any of those

[Kazanne]

Dunno about anyone else but I think he'll flop because he shares the same traits as each of the other male winners. Steve's fanbase, Shayne's voice, Leon's cute appeal and Joe's consistency. I don't know if that makes him into a winner who will succeed, or a summary of what doesn't appeal... (I don't know how best to word that, I hope people get what I mean though)

I think he will flop. I hope he doesn't, he deserved to win it just as much as Rebecca and One Direction, but that's my instinct.

He doesn't though,the others were just pretty boys who stood there and sang,Matt puts emotion and passion into his songs and feels them,he also plays the guitar and has been working at this for several years,he has a natural talent and his voice is fantastic

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Well I'd have agreed with this until I saw the voting figures, topping the votes every single week apart from Week 1 shows just how big his fanbase is... Most other winners only top it about 3-4 times

eoghan quigg won 8 shows :eek:

[Iceman]

Not a chance.

[Locke.]

eoghan quigg won 8 shows :eek:

He looked like a hedgehog and his fans were only little girls, he doesn't count :nono:

[James]

Ahh, another mod got in before me on the delete button. Hate it when that happens. ;)

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

He looked like a hedgehog and his fans were only little girls, he doesn't count :nono:

ya thats what i mean

winning every show doesnt mean he will be successful ¬_¬

[Kerry]

Soweeeeeeee *best behaviour*

[Jords]

Dunno about anyone else but I think he'll flop because he shares the same traits as each of the other male winners. Steve's fanbase, Shayne's voice, Leon's cute appeal and Joe's consistency. I don't know if that makes him into a winner who will succeed, or a summary of what doesn't appeal... (I don't know how best to word that, I hope people get what I mean though)

I think he will flop. I hope he doesn't, he deserved to win it just as much as Rebecca and One Direction, but that's my instinct.

Hes got them all, not just 1.

[Vicky.]

Ahh, another mod got in before me on the delete button. Hate it when that happens. ;)

getting slow in your old age :p

[InOne]

He doesn't have the spark, he will do well on a cruise ship or something.

[Kerry]

getting slow in your old age :p

How old is he? I've always wondered

[Vicky.]

How old is he? I've always wondered

No idea...just thought I would say it :laugh:

[Kerry]

No idea...just thought I would say it :laugh:

Oh haha

[James]

He doesn't have the spark, he will do well on a cruise ship or something.

Hah, works as a reply to my comment too.

:hugesmile:

[ElProximo]

Matt has all the potential to carry on a constant success. He doesn't need to quickly exploit X-Factor with a hit single and hope he can repeat it. (most need this).

What people haven't considered is that Matt is still a work in progress.. or rather yet to be perfected. He will win the investment in those aspects and do the work. It will pay off in the long run.

[Niamh.]

He doesn't have the spark, he will do well on a cruise ship or something.

ALOT of people would completely disagree with you about that Joe!

[InOne]

ALOT of people would completely disagree with you about that Joe!

Well next time you book a little break away be sure to look for him on the 'entertainment' list :tongue:

[Niamh.]

Well next time you book a little break away be sure to look for him on the 'entertainment' list :tongue:

:nono: You are going to have eat those words

[Kerry]

All I can say about Matt is that I never ever vote in these things yet did for him. I never ever buy the winners single yet will be his. I never buy the albums yet will be his. And I've never ever wanted to see any of them live but want to him

[InOne]

:nono: You are going to have eat those words

We'll see :D

[Z]

Hes got them all, not just 1.

That's what I was saying... :tongue:

[Kazanne]

How old is he? I've always wondered

Matt is 27

[Kerry]

Matt is 27

No, James admin :)

[Tom4784]

He'll flop, male winners never do great on X Factor.

[Kerry]

Still want to know how old James is.....

[Kerry]

He'll flop, male winners never do great on X Factor.

Theres no set rules though. It's like saying 'oh it never snows in October' but it sometimes does. Who knows??

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

He'll flop, male winners never do great on X Factor.

:worship:

[Jords]

That's what I was saying... :tongue:

Sorry I was too vague. I meant that they all had 1 real good quality about them but Matt has all 4 which of course will broaden his appeal.

It wont be a summary because somebody who has a small fanbase, average voice, ugly and not consistent will not do well at all LOL.

[Jords]

I do think people prefer solo female artists to men though, on a whole.

[BB_Eye]

Theres no set rules though. It's like saying 'oh it never snows in October' but it sometimes does. Who knows??
It's just simple inductive reasoning. It may not be impossible for Matt to get a long-lasting career out of the X-Factor, but the chances are he won't.

[InOne]

There is no place in the charts for him. It's all about solo females these days.

[Kazanne]

Sorry I was too vague. I meant that they all had 1 real good quality about them but Matt has all 4 which of course will broaden his appeal.

It wont be a summary because somebody who has a small fanbase, average voice, ugly and not consistent will not do well at all LOL.

He is nothing like past male winners,there is something different about Matt,i can't quite put my finger on it (unfortunately,lol) ,he has a passion and emotion ,he doesn't just stand there and smile,he is musical,and has a raw talent about him,he is more than just a pretty face,

[Mystic Mock]

he wont be the only one this year as rebecca is to old fashioned,although america will love her style of singing.

one direction will bomb the worse out of the final 4 this year,there like old take that and boyzone mashed in with justin bieber,and you know how in the old style boybands and justin bieber are?

[Zippy]

he wont be the only one this year as rebecca is to old fashioned,although america will love her style of singing.


:nono: Rebecca can do soul, jazz, pop, RnB, heavy rock....ok maybe not the last one. But she also has a voice thats very well suited to dance/club music. She's very versatile and has many options open in terms of what kind of album she could make.

Go listen to the club remix of her old vocal track in the music forum. Nothing old fashioned about that.

[Ryan57]

Hope he doesn't.

It's rare I vote on reality TV shows but, tonight, I picked up my phone and voted three times. That's how much of a fan of Matt I became.

[Tom4784]

Theres no set rules though. It's like saying 'oh it never snows in October' but it sometimes does. Who knows??

It's because they've all been generic, a jack of all trades but a master of none. With Leona & Alex (moreso Alex really) they become known for signature sounds and such. None of the male winners really have that outside of doing anything decently. Matt doesn't buck this trend at the moment.

[Tom4784]

he wont be the only one this year as rebecca is to old fashioned,although america will love her style of singing.



I don't think she will, If she wants to be album based then she could do the retro style soul but she's also shown an aptitude to dance music so there's potential for a singles based artist too.

[Pyramid*]

No, James admin :)

I reckon about the 20 years mark? (Sorry James if that' way out, only a wee guess).

I think Matt will do okay. I don't think he'll have anything like the success of Leona, but I think he'll tick along quite nicely. I have only ever voted in the XFactor shows for Will, and then bought when he recorded. The only other one I have voted for was Matt this year.

Seeing the voting figures for him week after week makes me think he already has a market out there who would buy his music.

[cub]

I don't think any reality show contestant will last forever. You're only as good as your last record.

Will, Leona, Shayne, Alexandra, Joe ... all their last singles failed to get into the top ten.

[cub]

he wont be the only one this year as rebecca is to old fashioned,although america will love her style of singing.

one direction will bomb the worse out of the final 4 this year,there like old take that and boyzone mashed in with justin bieber,and you know how in the old style boybands and justin bieber are?

Rebecca's style of music is timeless. Jazz and lounge/cool has lasted longer than any form of music, bar Classical. Michael Buble does very well.

I agree that as soon as Justine Beiber changes his haircut One Direction will look dated overnight.

[Captain.Remy]

100% he won't. The man is amazing, get used to hearing this dude because he ain't going anywhere.

[InOne]

100% he won't. The man is amazing, get used to hearing this dude because he ain't going anywhere.

All fans have this view when their fave is fresh from winning lol We'll see

[Niamh.]

All fans have this view when their fave is fresh from winning lol We'll see

Nope, like I said before and I also heard Kerry and kazanne say the same thing, I have never voted in that show before last night but I did for matt, I have never bought any music from an X Factor contestant but I will be buying matts, because there's something special about him.

[fruit_cake]

Matt's reached his peak.. his falsetto is his only selling point and got boring after week two IMO

[fruit_cake]

:nono: Rebecca can do soul, jazz, pop, RnB, heavy rock....ok maybe not the last one. But she also has a voice thats very well suited to dance/club music. She's very versatile and has many options open in terms of what kind of album she could make.

Go listen to the club remix of her old vocal track in the music forum. Nothing old fashioned about that.

I agree with this, Rebecca is much more versatile

[Jack_]

Nope, like I said before and I also heard Kerry and kazanne say the same thing, I have never voted in that show before last night but I did for matt, I have never bought any music from an X Factor contestant but I will be buying matts, because there's something special about him.

You'd buy it even if you didn't like the sound of it?

[Niamh.]

You'd buy it even if you didn't like the sound of it?

Of course I wouldn't, why would I buy something I didn't like?:conf:

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

I said in earlier post today, i think Matt will do well out of this, i think he will be more successful than most previous winners, with exception of Leona.

[Jack_]

Of course I wouldn't, why would I buy something I didn't like?:conf:

You said 'I have never bought any music from an X Factor contestant but I will be buying matts'...yet you haven't heard any of his music yet?

[Niamh.]

You said 'I have never bought any music from an X Factor contestant but I will be buying matts'...yet you haven't heard any of his music yet?

I was talking about his winners single, it also has 3 songs from the live shows on it

[Jack_]

I was talking about his winners single, it also has 3 songs from the live shows on it

Oh sorry, I forgot about the winners single, I thought you were on about his album. My mistake :p

[Niamh.]

Oh sorry, I forgot about the winners single, I thought you were on about his album. My mistake :p

lmao no I hope it will be good but I wont be buying that until I've heard some of the songs on it first!:joker:

[Jamietwo]

i brought same differences album and listened to it in bed dreaming of sean kissing me . I did that for about a month or two, it was quite pleasant.

dunno about matt, but i tell you what when he sings the right song and he sings it well oh my god there was one night i remember when all 4 judges stood up ...bloody amazing

[*mazedsalv**]

You can't see in the future though.

You don't know what will happen. You need to give him a chance... don't paint him with the male winner brush because he could do very well.

[InOne]

Nope, like I said before and I also heard Kerry and kazanne say the same thing, I have never voted in that show before last night but I did for matt, I have never bought any music from an X Factor contestant but I will be buying matts, because there's something special about him.

To you maybe, but don't think other people see it.

[Kazanne]

i brought same differences album and listened to it in bed dreaming of sean kissing me . I did that for about a month or two, it was quite pleasant.

dunno about matt, but i tell you what when he sings the right song and he sings it well oh my god there was one night i remember when all 4 judges stood up ...bloody amazing

I think it might have been this one.
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[Beastie]

It says in The Sun Matt could earn 5 million within the next 12 months! :)

I hope he does well and hope he doesn't flop. I hope he breaks the cycle of the flopped male winners. (Bar Shane who is distinctly average)

[Beastie]

I just hope Simon gives Matt a bit of free reign when making the albulm. If Matt wants to write his own songs and play his guitar, Simon should let him!

[Niamh.]

To you maybe, but don't think other people see it.

which other people? You mean all those people who voted him winner of every show bar one? are those the people you're talking about?

[Niamh.]

I just hope Simon gives Matt a bit of free reign when making the albulm. If Matt wants to write his own songs and play his guitar, Simon should let him!

yeah, that's what he needs to do I think Beasty, use this as a big platform to launch himself as a credible artist who writes his own stuff, that will set him apart from previous winners

[Ryan57]

I think it might have been this one.
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Yep, it will of been that one that the person above was referring to.

Cheryl summed it up best:

With tears in her eyes, she turns to Dannii and says, 'Wow'.

I'll be buying Matt's CD tomorrow. Shame that 'Just the way you are' isn't on it. As that was another of Matt's fantastic performances, and one of my favourites.

[Niamh.]

Yep, it will of been that one that the person above was referring to.

Cheryl summed it up best:

With tears in her eyes, she turns to Dannii and says, 'Wow'.

I'll be buying Matt's CD tomorrow. Shame that 'Just the way you are' isn't on it. As that was another of Matt's fantastic performances, and one of my favourites.

It is, first time, Nights in white satin and just the way you are are on it with the winners song

[Ryan57]

It is, first time, Nights in white satin and just the way you are are on it with the winners song

Oh, my, how did I not see it after looking at the track list yesterday on Play.com(?):hugesmile:

Really pleased it's on. It was simply outstanding.

[InOne]

which other people? You mean all those people who voted him winner of every show bar one? are those the people you're talking about?

The people who will buy the Biffy song and stop him getting xmas number one :hugesmile:

[Niamh.]

Oh, my, how did I not see it after looking at the track list yesterday on Play.com(?):hugesmile:

Really pleased it's on. It was simply outstanding.

Oh? maybe I'm wrong then, I thought they said those tracks were on it on the Xtra Factor

[Ryan57]

Oh? maybe I'm wrong then, I thought they said those tracks were on it on the Xtra Factor

Nah, you're right. I checked Play.com after I saw your post. Very pleased that song is on. :hugesmile:

[Niamh.]

The people who will buy the Biffy song and stop him getting xmas number one :hugesmile:

oh those people, tell me are those the same people who stopped Alexandra version of Hallelujah getting to number one in favour of Jeff Buckleys? Oh wait, no..........

[Niamh.]

Nah, you're right. I checked Play.com after I saw your post. Very pleased that song is on. :hugesmile:

oh good, I was really happy with the 3 songs they picked to put on with it:hugesmile:

[Jamietwo]

I think it might have been this one.
D-5M93tovEs

oh yeah that was the one ...first time i saw your face...i was like WTF ...stopped me in my tracks and made me go all tingles and stuff...he bloody nailed it good and proper

[Jamietwo]

It says in The Sun Matt could earn 5 million within the next 12 months! :)

I hope he does well and hope he doesn't flop. I hope he breaks the cycle of the flopped male winners. (Bar Shane who is distinctly average)

yeah but give joe mac elderberry a chance is it , he is a good singer , maybe a bit too vibratey but he carnt half knock one out...when he knocked one out with george michael his was clearer and better

[Tom4784]

He'll flop, votes and people who'll actually go and buy your stuff are two different things and there's nothing that really makes Matt Cardle stand out at the moment, he'll have a pop rock album out or something Script-esque and break even at best.

[Kazanne]

Yep, it will of been that one that the person above was referring to.

Cheryl summed it up best:

With tears in her eyes, she turns to Dannii and says, 'Wow'.

I'll be buying Matt's CD tomorrow. Shame that 'Just the way you are' isn't on it. As that was another of Matt's fantastic performances, and one of my favourites.

I get lost in that everytime I hear it,I have to admit it is one of my fave pieces of music now.I cannot believe the emotion felt in that.

[Kazanne]

He'll flop, votes and people who'll actually go and buy your stuff are two different things and there's nothing that really makes Matt Cardle stand out at the moment, he'll have a pop rock album out or something Script-esque and break even at best.

I wouldn't worry about it,he'll still be living his dream and having a whale of a time earning loads of dosh,while others are still sucking on lemons and being mean spirited.Good luck to Matt,IF he flops he will at least have tried.

[Niamh.]

I wouldn't worry about it,he'll still be living his dream and having a whale of a time earning loads of dosh,while others are still sucking on lemons and being mean spirited.Good luck to Matt,IF he flops he will at least have tried.

hopefully he'll be allowed do some of his own songs on his album too, I mean I thought that ballad he wrote as a joke about him and Aiden was actually really good so can you imagine what he can do when he's seriously writing a song?

[Kazanne]

hopefully he'll be allowed do some of his own songs on his album too, I mean I thought that ballad he wrote as a joke about him and Aiden was actually really good so can you imagine what he can do when he's seriously writing a song?

I am going to download his album when he was with his group Severn Summers,he does write his own songs and some of them are good,I wonder if they will reform on the back of Matts success,that would be interesting to see,so many avenues for him,imo.

[Niamh.]

I am going to download his album when he was with his group Severn Summers,he does write his own songs and some of them are good,I wonder if they will reform on the back of Matts success,that would be interesting to see,so many avenues for him,imo.

oh I'd be interested in having a listen to that as well actually. He probably wont be able to reform with them now he's tied into that contract, not for the next year anyway

[Kazanne]

It says in The Sun Matt could earn 5 million within the next 12 months! :)

I hope he does well and hope he doesn't flop. I hope he breaks the cycle of the flopped male winners. (Bar Shane who is distinctly average)

I don't think he is anything like previous male winners,his one advantage is he a musician,I hope he does really well,he has worked hard,Matt seems to have broke the mold of previous winners,imo he is so different.

[MissKittyFantastico]

If he gets to do his own stuff then he may do alright, some of his band's stuff is actually really good. I do think Rebecca is way more versatile but I love his voice so I hope he sticks around and makes a go of it.

[Kazanne]

oh I'd be interested in having a listen to that as well actually. He probably wont be able to reform with them now he's tied into that contract, not for the next year anyway

They are on You tube,I just typed in matts name and seven summers this is just one of them,
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[fruit_cake]

Simon's not going to like that.. he seems to want a puppet not a songwriter

[Niamh.]

Simon's not going to like that.. he seems to want a puppet not a songwriter

If he doesn't let him do some of his own stuff then atleast he has a major platform for after his contract runs out

[Kazanne]

If he doesn't let him do some of his own stuff then atleast he has a major platform for after his contract runs out

This one I like aswell,this is just audio,but maybe simon should sign them all,lol

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[Niamh.]

This one I like aswell,this is just audio,but maybe simon should sign them all,lol

RD1pupIbDdo

I listened to the first one you posted and I loved it, I'll listen to that one after when I get home

[fruit_cake]

If he doesn't let him do some of his own stuff then atleast he has a major platform for after his contract runs out

I hope so, that single is really good isn't it

[Kazanne]

My favourite from the album.
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[Niamh.]

I hope so, that single is really good isn't it

yeah, it really is, that's what separates Matt from the other X Factor winners, he's not just a singer he's a proper musician

[Smithy]

yeah, it really is, that's what separates Matt from the other X Factor winners, he's not just a singer he's a proper musician

I doubt that will make any difference

[Niamh.]

I doubt that will make any difference

I think it will.

[Smithy]

It won't

[Niamh.]

It will.

[Smithy]

don't see how it willl

[Ryan57]

The thing is, if Matt flops. He flops with, what's set to be, £5 million in his back pocket in his first year alone.

I wish I could flop like that.

[InOne]

He doesn't have any kind of spark Niamh, deal with it.

[InOne]

Ooooo, found the thread. :pipe:

[Me. I Am Salman]

:nono: You are going to have eat those words

100% he won't. The man is amazing, get used to hearing this dude because he ain't going anywhere.

:joker:

[fruit_cake]

awful news

[Mystic Mock]

Matt Cardle could've been a success if he had kept his mouth shut about The X Factor fans and the contestants.

[Apple202]

People actually thought that he would do well? :shocked: