Which musical artist has the worst fanbase?

[MeMyselfAndI]

I got this idea from a digital spy thread: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=1416211&page=2

Anyway i would say Justin Bieber and old people like The Beatles.

Justin Bieber because - Although i think hes ok, his fans have threatened to kill people who have dated him and that is just wrong

The Beatles because - People always say music is not like it use to be - or music is awful nowadays. its just so annoying.

[Novo]

Leona lewis :evilgrin:

[Niamh.]

The Beatles were long gone when I discovered their music and I'm a fan of them, alot of Beatles fans started liking them well after they were together

[MeMyselfAndI]

:rolleyes: serious replys please

[MeMyselfAndI]

The Beatles were long gone when I discovered their music and I'm a fan of them, alot of Beatles fans started liking them well after they were together

I understand that I'm just saying some fans say how BAD music is nowadays, when some people might really like music now, like me. So it can be annoying, and call them Legends because of how amazing music use to be..

[Niamh.]

I understand that I'm just saying some fans say how BAD music is nowadays, when some people might really like music now, like me. So it can be annoying, and call them Legends because of how amazing music use to be..

Well, you can't argue with the fact that they were legends though, I sort of see what you're saying, I suppose most of the music I listen to is 90's stuff and older purely because I had more time to be into music when I was a teenager

[seanraff07]

Queen fans.

The band and a lot of their fans just make me cringe.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Well, you can't argue with the fact that they were legends though, I sort of see what you're saying, I suppose most of the music I listen to is 90's stuff and older purely because I had more time to be into music when I was a teenager

yeah but if they are so called 'legends' why do some of the fans of older groups, mainly the beatles have to constantly say music is bad now. and it will never be the same. etc. it's just negative and not everyone shares that view, personally i think the beatles are awful.

[Niamh.]

Queen fans.

The band and a lot of their fans just make me cringe.

Queen are also legends:wink:

[Niamh.]

yeah but if they are so called 'legends' why do some of the fans of older groups, mainly the beatles have to constantly say music is bad now. and it will never be the same. etc. it's just negative.

i suppose they just prefer music from that era, just personal taste really

[MeMyselfAndI]

yeah i prefure music from this era, but i dont say "music from 1970s is nothing like music in 2010" to people who are enjoying 2010 music.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

lady gaga

[MeMyselfAndI]

lady gaga

yeah thats a popular choice on the DS thread

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

the 'little monsters' thing is just :bored:

[seanraff07]

Queen are also legends:wink:

I actually love 90's music like Stone Roses, Oasis, Blur, The Charlatans etc.. but i just think Queen are really cheesy.:bored:

[MojoNixon]

lady gaga

Yes. And a handful of Shabby fans.

['Conor]

Justin Bieber
Cheryl Cole
Girls Aloud
Take That

[Princess]

Justin Bieber
Cheryl Cole
Girls Aloud
Take That

What's wrong with Take That fans???

[M X]

I am a Britney stan, but a lot of Britney stans (mostly just on Exhale) are particularly viscous. However, extremely devoted to Britney.

[Niamh.]

I actually love 90's music like Stone Roses, Oasis, Blur, The Charlatans etc.. but i just think Queen are really cheesy.:bored:

Queen were more 70s/80s again as with the Beatles I discovered them after they were actually a band, the dress sense and videos seemed a bit chessy alright but just because it was a bit out of date by then but their songs are timeless imo

['Conor]

What's wrong with Take That fans???

well some of my friends love them, and they always reck my head going on about them how they are the best and stuff, but i have nothing against you , just my opinion.

[Princess]

well some of my friends love them, and they always reck my head going on about them how they are the best and stuff, but i have nothing against you , just my opinion.

Well they are pretty good :tongue:

[Princess]

Anyways I'd probably say Justin Bieber,his fans scare the **** out of me. When I was at Wembley Stadium,the security guys said the Oasis fans were the most aggressive and we were the friendliest(and maddest).

['Conor]

Well they are pretty good :tongue:

If you say so :)

[Niall]

Justin Bieber. No. Contest. :yuk:

[Legend killer]

CHAVRYL without a shadow of a dought , she can't sing , can't judge is a nasty woman who has got her head so far up her own ass she could chew her food twice , yet they still lick her ass

[Shasown]

Daniel O'Donnell - his fanbase are animals, pure and simple.

['Conor]

CHAVRYL without a shadow of a dought , she can't sing , can't judge is a nasty woman who has got her head so far up her own ass she could chew her food twice , yet they still lick her ass

this. :)

[Niamh.]

Daniel O'Donnell - his fanbase are animals, pure and simple.

http://www.thelensflare.com/large/people_7333.jpg

[Shasown]

http://www.thelensflare.com/large/people_7333.jpg

Thanks for posting the proof ;)

Poor man looks like he is bricking it.

[Smithy]

Any stan in general, they're usually completely deluded :bored:

[Ramsay]

Daniel O'Donnell - his fanbase are animals, pure and simple.

Mez5Ru2zSAY

[Niamh.]

Mez5Ru2zSAY

ahahahahaha, brilliant karl!

[Lee.]

Can everybody else see Youtube vids??

If so, why can't I? Never had bother before

[Tom4784]

Justin Bieber as mentioned before has a fanbase consisting of many arguments for abortion.

Heavy Metal fans annoy me, the vocal ones anyway.

[InOne]

Bieber fans

Radiohead fans

Coldplay fans

Blur fans

Nirvana fans (the tween ones)

[Niamh.]

Bieber fans

Radiohead fans

Coldplay fans

Blur fans

Nirvana fans (the tween ones)

Kurt was still alive when I started listening to them:D

[Shasown]

Can everybody else see Youtube vids??

If so, why can't I? Never had bother before

Check your browser settings, to make sure you havent disabled videos

Update your addons like flashplayer(adobe.com)

Check your connection speed

[Lee.]

Check your browser settings, to make sure you havent disabled videos

Update your addons like flashplayer(adobe.com)

Check your connection speed

Thanks.. I use a sperate windows account for my itunes and stuff and had signed onto that thismorning.Just logged back onto my usual one now and the vids are working fine :D

Thanks

[InOne]

Kurt was still alive when I started listening to them:D

Well you're all good then :tongue:

[Vicky.]

Proper obsessive fans of ANYONE annoy the hell out of me. The people who think the sun shines out of XXXs ass and can never admit any fault in them.

-Glares at smithy-

[Smithy]

Proper obsessive fans of ANYONE annoy the hell out of me. The people who think the sun shines out of XXXs ass and can never admit any fault in them.

-Glares at smithy-

k, if you think I'm bad read the arguments in this:

http://www.spillitnow.com/viewtopic.php?t=137008&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

edit: And I can admit faults :nono:

[Vicky.]

Im not reading 7 pages of 'Britney>>' 'No Kelly Clarkson should be higher' 'gaga should be there' crap...

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

k, if you think I'm bad read the arguments in this:

http://www.spillitnow.com/viewtopic.php?t=137008&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

edit: And I can admit faults :nono:

eugh i hate that forum

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

nawww actually i just read the replies to the thread i made

i like it now :lovedup:

[Stu]

Anyone who blindly devotes twelve months of their life to the current X-Factor bore until the next one comes along. Usually because they find them good looking.

Justin Bieber fans are a bit of an obvious one.

30 Seconds To Mars have some of the most pretentious fans on the planet. They often like to refer to themselves in the third person as 'Echelon' ... kind of like it's a secret society or something. They are tuning into music on a higher level than us mere mortals and are helping change the world or something. I don't know.

Angry metal fans who know everything there is to know about metal but are laughably clueless when it comes to other forms of music.

Scene kids and indie kids of all shapes and sized.

Anyone who complains about electronic music 'selling out' or not being what it was when they were rolling around in the mud catching AIDS off a dodgy E in 1989.

People who namecheck bands like Opeth, Dreamtheatre and Tool just to look intellectual.

[Iceman]

Anyone who blindly devotes twelve months of their life to the current X-Factor bore until the next one comes along. Usually because they find them good looking.

Justin Bieber fans are a bit of an obvious one.

30 Seconds To Mars have some of the most pretentious fans on the planet. They often like to refer to themselves in the third person as 'Echelon' ... kind of like it's a secret society or something. They are tuning into music on a higher level than us mere mortals and are helping change the world or something. I don't know.

Angry metal fans who know everything there is to know about metal but are laughably clueless when it comes to other forms of music.

Scene kids and indie kids of all shapes and sized.

Anyone who complains about electronic music 'selling out' or not being what it was when they were rolling around in the mud catching AIDS off a dodgy E in 1989.

People who namecheck bands like Opeth, Dreamtheatre and Tool just to look intellectual.

*coughs Jack Osbourne coughs*

[Patrick]

Justin Bieber
His fans are annoying little bastards who think one day he will come and sleep with them, They need to calm the ****** down and leave Selena Gomez and Justin Bieber haters alone.
That 'Declaration of War' knob that was on YouTube a few months back is the perfect example of why his fans need to be put in a concentration camp.


The Beatles
I don't have a major problem with them really but their fans need to get their heads out of their arses and realise they aren't that bloody good, Jesus.
I'm not saying anyone is better than them or anything like that, I just think 'The Band That Changed Everything' slogan iTunes have going is very ridiculous.


Lady GaGa
I love Lady GaGa's music and I am a fan of hers but for God's sake, Her fans need to calm down aswell and stop referring to themselves as her 'Little Monsters' do they have any idea how ******ing stupid they look?
And the way they treat her like a God, I love her and think she could be as big as Madonna in a few years time sure, but I don't go around shoving it in everyone's faces and calling myself a 'Little Monster' or referring to her as 'Mamma Monster' I mean, Just cut yourselves.

[Stu]

yeah but if they are so called 'legends' why do some of the fans of older groups, mainly the beatles have to constantly say music is bad now. and it will never be the same. etc. it's just negative and not everyone shares that view, personally i think the beatles are awful.
What Beatles albums have you listened to?

People are entitled to say music is rubbish nowdays. I think the vast majority music is rubbish nowdays. I think everything in the charts is balless, souless, cock sucking devil jizm. Would you rather I lie? Difference is I am coming from a position of knowledge. You are not. You only know new stuff.

I think you are only mentioning The Beatles so much because it annoys you that you are surrounded by much more knowledgable people who think by and large that the stuff you listen to is horrid. So then this thread is not a decleration of opinion moreso a chance to vent on those people for simply being more open minded. Like their knowledge threatens you or something.

I don't mean to sound insulting but that's the way I see it. It seems a little obvious. Truth hurtz.

I just think 'The Band That Changed Everything' slogan iTunes have going is very ridiculous.
They did change everything. In what way is it a riddiculous slogan?

[InOne]

Justin Bieber
His fans are annoying little bastards who think one day he will come and sleep with them, They need to calm the ****** down and leave Selena Gomez and Justin Bieber haters alone.
That 'Declaration of War' knob that was on YouTube a few months back is the perfect example of why his fans need to be put in a concentration camp.


The Beatles
I don't have a major problem with them really but their fans need to get their heads out of their arses and realise they aren't that bloody good, Jesus.
I'm not saying anyone is better than them or anything like that, I just think 'The Band That Changed Everything' slogan iTunes have going is very ridiculous.


Lady GaGa
I love Lady GaGa's music and I am a fan of hers but for God's sake, Her fans need to calm down aswell and stop referring to themselves as her 'Little Monsters' do they have any idea how ******ing stupid they look?
And the way they treat her like a God, I love her and think she could be as big as Madonna in a few years time sure, but I don't go around shoving it in everyone's faces and calling myself a 'Little Monster' or referring to her as 'Mamma Monster' I mean, Just cut yourselves.

That made me LOL

[Captain.Remy]

I understand that I'm just saying some fans say how BAD music is nowadays, when some people might really like music now, like me. So it can be annoying, and call them Legends because of how amazing music use to be..

Go buy a pair of ears honey, you seriously need to.

Oh and to answer the question: Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus and anything Disney related, metal fans who don't know what real metal is etc...

[Iceman]

Justin Bieber
His fans are annoying little bastards who think one day he will come and sleep with them, They need to calm the ****** down and leave Selena Gomez and Justin Bieber haters alone.
That 'Declaration of War' knob that was on YouTube a few months back is the perfect example of why his fans need to be put in a concentration camp.


The Beatles
I don't have a major problem with them really but their fans need to get their heads out of their arses and realise they aren't that bloody good, Jesus.
I'm not saying anyone is better than them or anything like that, I just think 'The Band That Changed Everything' slogan iTunes have going is very ridiculous.


Lady GaGa
I love Lady GaGa's music and I am a fan of hers but for God's sake, Her fans need to calm down aswell and stop referring to themselves as her 'Little Monsters' do they have any idea how ******ing stupid they look?
And the way they treat her like a God, I love her and think she could be as big as Madonna in a few years time sure, but I don't go around shoving it in everyone's faces and calling myself a 'Little Monster' or referring to her as 'Mamma Monster' I mean, Just cut yourselves.
Thing is they actually did, this is just ignorance on your behalf and maybe jealousy at them im not too sure. Just seems like you have a dislike for them with no apparent reason.

[Ramsay]

The Beatles
I don't have a major problem with them really but their fans need to get their heads out of their arses and realise they aren't that bloody good, Jesus.
I'm not saying anyone is better than them or anything like that, I just think 'The Band That Changed Everything' slogan iTunes have going is very ridiculous.
.

but...they did change everything
a hell of alot of bands would not be around today if it wasent for the beatles
they were one of the most important things to happen to music

[Captain.Remy]

The Beatles
I don't have a major problem with them really but their fans need to get their heads out of their arses and realise they aren't that bloody good, Jesus.
I'm not saying anyone is better than them or anything like that, I just think 'The Band That Changed Everything' slogan iTunes have going is very ridiculous.


They actually changed music tho. So did Elvis, Daft Punk and a few others.
These people made a revolution and created what we listen to today. You should be thankful for that.

[Ramsay]

metal fans who don't know what real metal is etc...

oh god yeah ..so annoying

[Stu]

Elvis, The Beatles & Michael Jackson. Three artists where quite frankly ones opinion just does not count.

And Kraftwerk, obviously. Who single handedly invented most of todays music :wink:.

[Captain.Remy]

oh god yeah ..so annoying

To them, being a metal fan is having long hair, not taking showers, being a so-called rebel because they didn't empty the dishwasher and went back at 11:30pm instead of 11pm, wearing dark outfits and cutting themselves.

Morons.

[Patrick]

Jesus, Do you see what I mean?

I mention their name and already I'm being called 'Jealous'.

Iceman, I didn't say I don't like them.
I was surprised during The X Factor theme week of them, how much songs by them I liked in the past but didn't know they sang them.

It's just the same as Lady GaGa, I like her but the fan base is annoying.

And how exactly would I be jealous of them?
I don't inspire to be a singer or anything so It doesn't really bother me by how famous they are.

Karl / Remy, How exactly did they change music though?

Are you saying other bands got their sound or inspiration from The Beatles?

[Ramsay]

To them, being a metal fan is having long hair, not taking showers, being a so-called rebel because they didn't empty the dishwasher and went back at 11:30pm instead of 11pm, wearing dark outfits and cutting themselves.

Morons.

haha yeah and i know well the guy in your sig will just piss me off :laugh:

[Captain.Remy]

Elvis, The Beatles & Michael Jackson. Three artists where quite frankly ones opinion just does not count.

And Kraftwerk, obviously. Who single handedly invented most of todays music :wink:.

I'm not a fan of MJ because let's be realistic for a second: the guy was a genius, whether people like or not. His music doesn't appeal to me because I've got to recognize he made an impact. Period.

And I was looking for Kraftwerk, I just forgot the name :joker: But yeah, they did a great job too.

As for Elvis, my hero and my idol, not just for the music he made but for what he stood for, his whole philosophy and what he meant through his music. My latest tattoo (go check Facebook :tongue:) has my favourite title song from him "Burning Love". That may not be his best song, but it means a lot to me. And that's what made him special, to inspire people.

[Vicky.]

Go buy a pair of ears honey, you seriously need to.


This is something I really cant stand.

Now, I'm not ignorant enough to claim that the beatles were nothing, and I know they are/always will be classed as legends...however, I do not personally like their music. I have ears...I just really find it crap. Not to my taste at all. Same with Elvis.

[Captain.Remy]

haha yeah and i know well the guy in your sig will just piss me off :laugh:

I already have a feeling I won't like him much too :hugesmile:
I hope they didn't go for the stereotypical Metal fan but I think they did.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

This is something I really cant stand.

Now, I'm not ignorant enough to claim that the beatles were nothing, and I know they are/always will be classed as legends...however, I do not personally like their music. I have ears...I just really find it crap. Not to my taste at all. Same with Elvis.

PREACH! :worship:

i said the exact same thing in another thread that the beatles and elvis were overrated and everybody was like ew g t f o troll

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/8527/gifef.gif

[Captain.Remy]

This is something I really cant stand.

Now, I'm not ignorant enough to claim that the beatles were nothing, and I know they are/always will be classed as legends...however, I do not personally like their music. I have ears...I just really find it crap. Not to my taste at all. Same with Elvis.

It's not about liking them or not, it's about being realistic and objective. I've said earlier I didn't like Michael Jackson yet I have to recognize he changed a part of the music industry. I'm being real here, he did and so did the Beatles and Elvis.

[Vicky.]

PREACH! :worship:

i said the exact same thing in another thread that the beatles and elvis were overrated and everybody was like ew g t f o troll


Thats not quite what I said though...

I know they did a hell of a lot for the music industry, and would not say they were overrated...I just personally do not like their music (well, the music of theirs that I have heard)

[Stu]

Patrick The Beatles influenced everything from popular songwriting, to the way these songs were recorded and produced. They changed everything from a sonic level right down to a presentation level. They challenged the ideas and ideals of what a band was, they were hugely, hugely controversial, they mastered both writting charting pop songs and long, complex conceptual works of high experimentation. They even influenced the way album artwork was presented. The way rockstars lived their lives. The way touring was not always an option.

They practically invented a culture all on their own then brought it over to America for good measure. They have an entire Wikipedia article dedicated soley to their legacy and influence on popular culture.

Of course people are going to jump on you for showing unabashed displays of ignorance. You just asked someone to explain to you what infulence The Beatles had because you had no idea yourself yet you are also complaining about people who are calling you up on simply not knowing what you are talking about?

You can't have it both ways for christ sake, kid.

Most people who don't like their music are generally anyone who has never sat down with a pair of headphones, turned off their phone, ****ed off from a Big Brother forum for at least an hour of their lives and listened from start to finish one of the bands later albums. Plenty of kidz also denounce their influence because it just seems like a cool thing to do. Schindlers List was boring, Jesus was an overrated cock, babies are not cute, The Beatles are not that good.

Going against the grain for the sake of it.

[Callum]

Justin Bieber fans, Jonas Brother fans

The worst fans are always either Brazilian or American

[Smithy]

nawww actually i just read the replies to the thread i made

i like it now :lovedup:

:shocked:

link. like, now.

[Captain.Remy]

Patrick The Beatles influenced everything from popular songwriting, to the way these songs were recorded and produced. They changed everything from a sonic level right down to a presentation level. They challenged the ideas and ideals of what a band was, they were hugely, hugely controversial, they mastered both writting charting pop songs and long, complex conceptual works of high experimentation. They even influenced the way album artwork was presented. The way rockstars lived their lives. The way touring was not always an option.

They practically invented a culture all on their own then brought it over to America for good measure. They have an entire Wikipedia article dedicated soley to their legacy and influence on popular culture.

Of course people are going to jump on you for showing unabashed displays of ignorance. You just asked someone to explain to you what infulence The Beatles had because you had no idea yourself yet you are also complaining about people who are calling you up on simply not knowing what you are talking about?

You can't have it both ways for christ sake, kid.

Most people who don't like their music are generally anyone who has never sat down with a pair of headphones, turned off their phone, ****ed off from a Big Brother forum for at least an hour of their lives and listened from start to finish one of the bands later albums. Plenty of kidz also denounce their influence because it just seems like a cool thing to do. Schindlers List was boring, Jesus was an overrated cock, babies are not cute, The Beatles are not that good.

Going against the grain for the sake of it.

I was going to write a shorter version of it but way to go gardener!

And about Elvis, well, he didn't actually create the first type of Rock 'n' Roll (which was made for black people only) but he made his own version called "rockabilly" which inspired and influenced the next generations and is the essence of Rock 'n' Roll. Bow down to the King, bitches. Haters to the left. He's the best. Period. :hugesmile:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

:shocked:

link. like, now.

it was only one of those welcome threads D:

imma just be like 'o hai gurl' to every new member that joins till ma post count hits 100

*wants to post 'o hai gurl' gif but is afraid*

[Smithy]

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Lady GaGa
I love Lady GaGa's music and I am a fan of hers but for God's sake, Her fans need to calm down aswell and stop referring to themselves as her 'Little Monsters' do they have any idea how ******ing stupid they look?
And the way they treat her like a God, I love her and think she could be as big as Madonna in a few years time sure, but I don't go around shoving it in everyone's faces and calling myself a 'Little Monster' or referring to her as 'Mamma Monster' I mean, Just cut yourselves.

She called her fans monsters first, which is where it came from :/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nikc3OUj3qo

[Princess]

Most fans do have a fan name to be fair.

[Smithy]

it was only one of those welcome threads D:

imma just be like 'o hai gurl' to every new member that joins till ma post count hits 100

*wants to post 'o hai gurl' gif but is afraid*

http://www.spillitnow.com/viewtopic.php?t=135868

:laugh2:

Thats not subtle :nono:

[LemonJam]

-doesn't get how if you were around while Kurt Cobain was makes you a good fan or a bad fan if you weren't-

The ones that spring to mind that grind my gears are Lady Gaga, Radiohead, General 'don't listen to anything but metal' when it's not even metal technically douchebags and the pretentious classical loving bastards who claim Bach is the best ever.

[MeMyselfAndI]

I Totally aree with what patrick said, and everything is right. and people have proved it by defending the beatles straight away as soon as 1 post that is barely negative about them. Beatles fans are so defensive, and just like patrick said imo they changed nothing because they aren't that good espeacilly vocally (as patrick said). and yeah if im defensive of leona its like 'dont be so defensive' but with the beatles its exactly the same. Patrick i think your right

[LemonJam]

omg i don't even...

[Ramsay]

oh my god i actually feel sorry for you MMAI if youre music taste is that ****ing limited

[Stu]

I Totally aree with what patrick said, and everything is right. and people have proved it by defending the beatles straight away as soon as 1 post that is barely negative about them. Beatles fans are so defensive, and just like patrick said imo they changed nothing because they aren't that good espeacilly vocally (as patrick said). and yeah if im defensive of leona its like 'dont be so defensive' but with the beatles its exactly the same. Patrick i think your right
They did change everything. This is a fact. It's not for you to argue with. Also they were fantastic singers. Especially John Lennon. Listen to his song 'Mother' and then get back to me.

Besides, being a great musician extends far beyond having pitch perfect voice. It's about having a voice with character. You seem to think music's worth can be defined by how many notes a musician can hit. That's complete bollocks. Writing ones own material, playing ones own intruments and being inventive and creative in the studio all matter far, far more than 'having a lovely voice'.

Of course people are going to be defensive when what you are coming out with is wrong.

[MeMyselfAndI]

and what i said is not wrong its my opinion and patricks and others. so im obv not alone.

[Ramsay]

http://bluntobject.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/double-facepalm.jpg

[Captain.Remy]

I Totally aree with what patrick said, and everything is right. and people have proved it by defending the beatles straight away as soon as 1 post that is barely negative about them. Beatles fans are so defensive, and just like patrick said imo they changed nothing because they aren't that good espeacilly vocally (as patrick said). and yeah if im defensive of leona its like 'dont be so defensive' but with the beatles its exactly the same. Patrick i think your right

Look who's talking about being overly defensive. Bitch jumps on everybody whenever they talk about Leona so don't ****ing call us out because not only it has been proven that the Beatles changed the face of music but they have done much more than ugly horse face Leona ever will if she ever lasts as long as they did (which I highly doubt)

You're full of **** sweetheart, get over yourself.

[MeMyselfAndI]

more people talk about leona in my year group than the beatles so they are barely a talking point.. Infact i have never heard anybody mention them apart from this forum.

Anyway let's keep this on topic any fans getting annoyed or defensive about opinions is not needed. Other fans have taken it fine..

[Ramsay]

lets just see who still listens to leona lewis in 10 years

[Stephanie]

Infact i have never heard anybody mention them apart from this forum.
:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

[MeMyselfAndI]

I think leona changed pop music with bleeding love.

[Ramsay]

I think leona changed pop music with bleeding love.

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

[Stephanie]

I think leona changed pop music with bleeding love.
:laugh3:

[Captain.Remy]

more people talk about leona in my year group than the beatles so they are barely a talking point.. Infact i have never heard anybody mention them apart from this forum.

In your year? Honey, you're 14.

Oh wait, age isn't an excuse after all, I was 12 when I discovered Elvis, the Beatles, the Rolling Stones etc... and I'm pretty sure Stu, Karl, Shaun (great music taste too) and a few others here went through the same fate.
That is being called " being open-minded and discovering something else than manufactured commercial fake ass pop songs".

Can't wait to see you defending Leona in 10 years...if she's still on the market.

[Captain.Remy]

I think leona changed pop music with bleeding love.

*is waiting for Stu or Shaun to comment on this one, it's too outrageous to be unnoticed*

[Ramsay]

i cant even comment on it i just have to laugh :laugh:

[MeMyselfAndI]

saying someone has a great music taste is a opinion no fact. you have no right to say that your music taste is any better than mine. Me and many others believe Leona, Taylor Swift, The Script, Ellie Goulding > old boring artists

[MeMyselfAndI]

guys stop trolling the thread now.

[Stephanie]

guys stop trolling the thread now.
:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

[Ramsay]

saying someone has a great music taste is a opinion no fact. you have no right to say that your music taste is any better than mine. Me and many others believe Leona, Taylor Swift, The Script, Ellie Goulding > old boring artists

thats all well and good but i can guarentee you have never even given beatles a chance
youre just saying all this just for a reaction
if you actually sat down and gave it a chance youre opionion would be very different

[Captain.Remy]

saying someone has a great music taste is a opinion no fact. you have no right to say that your music taste is any better than mine. Me and many others believe Leona, Taylor Swift, The Script, Ellie Goulding > old boring artists

It's not a matter of opinion, you like whoever you want to. I never said my music tastes are better than yours because I didn't.

All we stated are facts: the above mentioned artists are LEGENDS, whether you like it or not. It's real, it's happening, it's noticed, it's a fact. I'm not expecting you to understand because clearly, you can't but at least I put my point across.
Just read what has been going on in the music industry for the past 40 years and you'll see the truth. It's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of fact and influence these artists had on what you have in your iPod/mp3 player. That's it, no matter to discuss.

[MeMyselfAndI]

ive heard about 2 beatles songs and i thought they sounded very droany

[Smithy]

MM&I shut up please, you're embarrassing yourself

[Iceman]

guys stop trolling the thread now.

dont be moaning just because you've been shown up.

[abbey97]

Joe McElderry.

[Stu]

This is just a little sad to be honest. I don't know what else to say anymore.

[Captain.Remy]

This is just a little sad to be honest. I don't know what else to say anymore.

Of course it's sad. I wish people were more aware of the history of music and who made what it is today. I'm not saying everyone should love these artists but they deserve some damn recognition from everyone.

Oh well, I think it's useless to argue now. We owned this **** anyway. :hugesmile:

[Iceman]

This is just a little sad to be honest. I don't know what else to say anymore.

Well for people with any common sense and arent as ignorant as **** I think between yourself, remy and the rest, you've explained it pretty damn clear, only the lesser minded people might not get that.

[BB_Eye]

I can't really say. I've met so many people who seem so level-headed and normal on the surface and then you find out they listen to Creed. Madness. :conf2:

I find pop singers in general inspire disgustingly fanatical levels of devotion in people, that tends to spill over onto review sites where anybody who would dare criticise the flavour of the month had best prepare to get mobbed by hysterical middle-aged women. Expect oestrogen-fuelled platitudes like "well he sells loads of records so your opinion doesn't count", "you're just a music snob and out of touch with real people" and my favourite "you have no right to criticise until you get your own multimillion pound record deal". :rolleyes:

[Shaun]

*is waiting for Stu or Shaun to comment on this one, it's too outrageous to be unnoticed*

I have him on ignore :tongue:

I've come to accept that MeMyselfandI is to music what cancer is to humanity.

I assume of course that he and Patrick have heard a whole Beatles album to make this judgment.

And people wonder why I'm so hateful :bored:

ANYWAY. No particular fans annoy me... other than, as everyone's said, the 'stans'. The ones blind to their idol's bad artistry, lack of talent (ohay britney), bad music and are too emotionally-invested in their idol.

Someone called me a stan the other day :bored: I'm quite clearly not.

[Niamh.]

-doesn't get how if you were around while Kurt Cobain was makes you a good fan or a bad fan if you weren't-

The ones that spring to mind that grind my gears are Lady Gaga, Radiohead, General 'don't listen to anything but metal' when it's not even metal technically douchebags and the pretentious classical loving bastards who claim Bach is the best ever.

It just does:tongue:

I think he means the people who started to like them just because he was suddenly iconic and cool because he shot himself (correct me if I'm wrong Joe?)

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Joe McElderry.

lol he has like fan.... phlip

[Captain.Remy]

I have him on ignore :tongue:

I've come to accept that MeMyselfandI is to music what cancer is to humanity.

I assume of course that he and Patrick have heard a whole Beatles album to make this judgment.

And people wonder why I'm so hateful :bored:

ANYWAY. No particular fans annoy me... other than, as everyone's said, the 'stans'. The ones blind to their idol's bad artistry, lack of talent (ohay britney), bad music and are too emotionally-invested in their idol.

Someone called me a stan the other day :bored: I'm quite clearly not.

Because that's a guy? lmao

He/She/It basically said that Leona Lewis aka "Horse face" changed the face of pop music.

Feel free to comment. :laugh:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

neighhhh

[BB_Eye]

I think leona changed pop music with bleeding love.
You're right, it was one of those epoch-making innovations in music. Don't listen to all of those old farts laughing at you. The music of Leona Lewis is too mindblowingly avant-garde for them to appreciate.

[Shaun]

Because that's a guy? lmao

He/She/It basically said that Leona Lewis aka "Horse face" changed the face of pop music.

Feel free to comment. :laugh:

Oh right.

Well there's obviously been a massive swing from vocal-less music since 2006. (hiya jack its actually the opposite lol!!!!!!!)

[Vicky.]

To those saying that basically you need to listen to albums of Beatles songs in order to decide if you really like them or not, otherwise saying you dont is just ignorance and trying to be cool...have you ever listened to a whole Bieber/JLS/'insert other uncool manufactured pop band here' album? Or are you judging it purely on the few songs you have heard? :tongue:

/Devils advocate

[Shaun]

Vicky...did you just make that comparison? Are you suggesting there's hidden JLS talent?

[MeMyselfAndI]

yeah i was gunna say that Vicky. And have you heard leonas album haters

[Vicky.]

Vicky...did you just make that comparison? Are you suggesting there's hidden JLS talent?

I actually like one of their songs :blush2:

But no, I'm not trying to compare, just trying to point out the obvious flaws in sme of the lines of thinking that are going on in this thread :p

[Stu]

To those saying that basically you need to listen to albums of Beatles songs in order to decide if you really like them or not, otherwise saying you dont is just ignorance and trying to be cool...have you ever listened to a whole Bieber/JLS/'insert other uncool manufactured pop band here' album? Or are you judging it purely on the few songs you have heard? :tongue:

/Devils advocate
Justin Beiber and JLS are not album based artists. In fact they are built from the ground up to be sold on the strenght of their singles. You are comparing a multi talented band who produced multi layerd, complex concept albums and skin deep artists whose albums are simply holding pens for a collection of ghost penned singles.

Someone who has only heard one or two Beatles song on the radio will have something to learn from listening to the albums. Someone who has only heard one or two Justin Beiber songs on the radio will have absoloutely nothing to learn doing likewise.

[Iceman]

yeah i was gunna say that Vicky. And have you heard leonas album haters

Sure you were, I guess you were just looking for the right time?

[Vicky.]

Justin Beiber and JLS are not album based artists. In fact they are built from the ground up to be sold on the strenght of their singles. You are comparing a multi talented band who produced multi layerd, complex concept albums and skin deep artists whose albums are simply holding pens for a collection of ghost penned singles.

Someone who has only heard one or two Beatles song on the radio will have something to learn from listening to the albums. Someone who has only heard one or two Justin Beiber songs on the radio will have absoloutely nothing to learn doing likewise.

Hmm fair comment I suppose.

Sure you were, I guess you were just looking for the right time?
:joker:

[InOne]

It just does:tongue:

I think he means the people who started to like them just because he was suddenly iconic and cool because he shot himself (correct me if I'm wrong Joe?)

Yeah them sorts. But on sort of a different level, people around my age will understand more cos they grew up with people like them, it's hard to explain lol

[Benjamin]

Lady GaGa. Nothing against her or her music, but her fans are annoying brats who find anyway to bring her into any conversation. :bored:

[Ramsay]

i dont really agree with that
i mean the beatles were decades before me yet i would like to think i like them just as much as anyone back then did

[InOne]

I'm not talking about how old or young you are as a fan. I'm talking the nature of the fan, which is what I find annoying

[Stu]

Lady GaGa. Nothing against her or her music, but her fans are annoying brats who find anyway to bring her into any conversation. :bored:
The thing I hate is that she is a mainstream recording artist - the biggest on the planet right now - with mass appeal and yet she convinces her more pretentious fans that they are 'special' Little Monsters like some underground cult helping stamp out one prejudice at a time. Eveyone and their grandmother likes GaGa. You're not special for doing so. You have not 'found her' and she has not 'reached out' to you.

[Smithy]

Lady GaGa. Nothing against her or her music, but her fans are annoying brats who find anyway to bring her into any conversation. :bored:

pffft, t'sonly like you and Australia

[Benjamin]

pffft, t'sonly like you and Australia

:laugh2:

But I am only 1. The Gaga fans are a swarm!

Oh also have I mentioned I travelled Australia? :tongue:

[ILoveTRW]

Take That, there fans are mentally retarded.

[Tom4784]

MM&I you are an absolute diamond.

I haven't laughed at a Tibb Thread so much in ages.

[BB_Eye]

Wagner's fanbase included Hitler.

/thread

[Stu]

Godwin's Law. Now this thread has it all :).

[Twilight]

Lady Gaga.
Justin Bieber.
Take That.
All Time Low (lol i like them and everything but omg the fans are just annoying little brats)

[Captain.Remy]

yeah i was gunna say that Vicky. And have you heard leonas album haters

http://i54.tinypic.com/207wzt5.jpg

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

slipknot

[xDramatick]

Justin Bieber.
Britney Spears.

[Z]

I was going to ignore all of the bizarre arguments in the thread but to further Vicky's point about playing the devil's advocate; surely to base an informed opinion on any artist's material you have to listen to all of it, and I think the only TiBB member who can genuinely say that they do that is Shaun, which is why by and large you should all bow down to his opinions - at least they're informed, therefore there's more validity in what he's saying.

Anyway as for irritating fanbases, I'd say Lady Gaga's are the most annoying at the moment because they rave on about all this stuff she does as if she's innovating promoting gay rights or meat is murder or whatever the hell it is she does - accept that while she is doing positive things for those causes, she is absolutely using the fact she's a celebrity to get her point across, just like every other celebrity who has an opinion. She is not any different in that respect. And then I don't know how best to describe the other type of fanbase that annoys me, but that scene, emo sort of vibe that I used to vaguely be connected to that is full of 14 year olds who get emotionally invested in a band, go on about how they 'heard them first, before you heard of them' and take their teenage angst out via their bands or their hatred for other people for liking their bands and then suddenly realise the whole scene they immersed themselves in is still aimed at 14 year old teenagers and they've got nothing to be a part of anymore. :bored:

[Smithy]

I was going to ignore all of the bizarre arguments in the thread but to further Vicky's point about playing the devil's advocate; surely to base an informed opinion on any artist's material you have to listen to all of it, and I think the only TiBB member who can genuinely say that they do that is Shaun, which is why by and large you should all bow down to his opinions - at least they're informed, therefore there's more validity in what he's saying.

Anyway as for irritating fanbases, I'd say Lady Gaga's are the most annoying at the moment because they rave on about all this stuff she does as if she's innovating promoting gay rights or meat is murder or whatever the hell it is she does - accept that while she is doing positive things for those causes, she is absolutely using the fact she's a celebrity to get her point across, just like every other celebrity who has an opinion. She is not any different in that respect. And then I don't know how best to describe the other type of fanbase that annoys me, but that scene, emo sort of vibe that I used to vaguely be connected to that is full of 14 year olds who get emotionally invested in a band, go on about how they 'heard them first, before you heard of them' and take their teenage angst out via their bands or their hatred for other people for liking their bands and then suddenly realise the whole scene they immersed themselves in is still aimed at 14 year old teenagers and they've got nothing to be a part of anymore. :bored:

Twilight

[Stu]

surely to base an informed opinion on any artist's material you have to listen to all of it
No you don't. I explained this in what I thought was a pretty fair, logical way. It's a myth to think you have to listen to an entire artists output when you are talking about people who are 'artists' in inverted commas. Compare Leona Lewis with Rocky. It's a safe course. None of it strays from it's blueprint too much. After watching the first three Rocky films you can work out with a fair degree of accuracy if you are going to like the fourth one.

But I'll give Justin Bieber's discs are whirl for the giggle and if I unearth some gems I'll get back to you.

[Captain.Remy]

But I'll give Justin Bieber's discs are whirl for the giggle and if I unearth some gems I'll get back to you.

:shocked::shocked::shocked:

go back to "gardening" Stu, you really need too!! :laugh:

[Shaun]

erm. thanks Greg. But I don't listen to everything ever made :tongue:

[Stu]

:shocked::shocked::shocked:

go back to "gardening" Stu, you really need too!! :laugh:
It's no good in January. Conditions not right for the beauties. Have to move the operation indoors :hugesmile:.

[Boothy]

I think leona changed pop music with bleeding love.

This genuinely made me LOL

[InOne]

Are we talking about fans on the net or the ones we meet in real life? Cos tbh, don't really come across a lot of Bieber fans or "little monsters" lol

[Shaun]

same actually^

the worst people in real life I come across are the NME types...the ones who namedrop rather than enjoy music. "Oh I love Foals they're ****ing amazing!" Sure you do. Sing me a song of theirs.

[LemonJam]

not gonna lie, I lolled that Shaun's the only one apparently allowed a valid opinion.

Also to people saying LEARN YOUR MUSIC HISTORY I'd love to hear you talking about the innovations of Wagner or the renaissance period.

[/devils advocate part deux.]

[Ramsay]

V92OBNsQgxU

raaaave

[Shaun]

*points out to the classical bitch that popular + classical music are entirely different fields*

[Stu]

Oh look at Mister Classic. Why don't you pluck you're harp you ****ing fag.

[lily.]

Oh look at Mister Classic. Why don't you pluck you're harp you ****ing fag.


Mister Illiterate, I think you'll find it's your.












;)





edit to add: Stu, that joint is like a hoover bag son... You need to brush up on your rolling skills...


edit to add again: FML... Shaun just told me that's not you.... it's some guy from the telly..



I'm going to crawl into a corner and keep quiet..

[LemonJam]

*points out to the classical bitch that popular + classical music are entirely different fields*

you could say that, but popular music did develop gradually from classical music. I more stated the point because I don't like people thinking musical innovations only happened post 1950 or so:p

[Shaun]

you could say that, but popular music did develop gradually from classical music. I more stated the point because I don't like people thinking musical innovations only happened post 1950 or so:p

the difference being noone's come in here and said UGH VERDI'S FANS ARE SO PRETENTIOUS HIS MUSIC WAS **** ANYWAY despite having heard next to none of it.

the period of time is merely consequential. I'd be the same with people immediately writing off, say, Coldplay off the back of 'Clocks' or something.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

i like neil patrick harris

[Stu]

Mister Illiterate, I think you'll find it's your.












;)





Stu, that joint is like a hoover bag son... You need to brush up on your rolling skills...
Hey that's not one of my crew, that's Super Hans from Peep Show. It looks a bit like a tampon I reckon.

I'm just waiting for your/you're next 'permaban' so I can steal that gif in yer sig :wink:.

[lily.]

I edited to reflect my massive 'stu-spotting' fail.


And, I'm not going for another permaban. I've been shagging James just in case..

[Stu]

I am honored that somebody got me confused with Super Hans :lovedup:.

The secret ingredient is crime.

[LemonJam]

fair enough. -whips my hair back and forth to DeBussy-

[Shaun]

Nice Crunchy Nut you've got there, pretty expensive as I recall.

[Stu]

I tell you what this crack's a bit moreish.

[Z]

No you don't. I explained this in what I thought was a pretty fair, logical way. It's a myth to think you have to listen to an entire artists output when you are talking about people who are 'artists' in inverted commas. Compare Leona Lewis with Rocky. It's a safe course. None of it strays from it's blueprint too much. After watching the first three Rocky films you can work out with a fair degree of accuracy if you are going to like the fourth one.

But I'll give Justin Bieber's discs are whirl for the giggle and if I unearth some gems I'll get back to you.

Surely you've listened to an album that's thrown up surprisingly good song(s)? I doubt Justin Bieber would record a song that challenges ideas or expresses controversial views because he's aimed at a fanbase that would not appreciate such material; but plenty of other artists do so in this day and age; I think I understand the point MM&I is trying to make, that a lot of people rubbish all of modern music because it's not the golden era of music anymore. He then went and undermined his argument by trying to justify his favourite singer (emphasis on singer) as a reason why modern music is not crap, but on the whole I agree it's a bit annoying after a while to read 'ugh, all music is crap compared to the 60s' because that's just as much of a narrow view as someone whose favourite music is today's music rubbishing the work of The Beatles.

p.s. My world has been shattered, Shaun doesn't listen to everything ever. :o

p.p.s. I did not say Shaun's the only one allowed a valid opinion, what a ridiculous assumption, I said "I think the only TiBB member who can genuinely say that they do that is Shaun, which is why by and large you should all bow down to his opinions - at least they're informed, therefore there's more validity in what he's saying" by which I meant he listens to albums and reviews them, rather than spouting off opinions like MM&I's which are entirely baseless. I did not say Shaun's the only person with a valid opinion, I said there's more validity in what he's saying because we know he actually makes the effort to research before opening his mouth.

[lol]

Bring Me The Horizon
Black Veil Brides
All Black/Folk/Prog Metal bands fans

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

depeche mode

[Stu]

Surely you've listened to an album that's thrown up surprisingly good song(s)? I doubt Justin Bieber would record a song that challenges ideas or expresses controversial views because he's aimed at a fanbase that would not appreciate such material; but plenty of other artists do so in this day and age; I think I understand the point MM&I is trying to make, that a lot of people rubbish all of modern music because it's not the golden era of music anymore. He then went and undermined his argument by trying to justify his favourite singer (emphasis on singer) as a reason why modern music is not crap, but on the whole I agree it's a bit annoying after a while to read 'ugh, all music is crap compared to the 60s' because that's just as much of a narrow view as someone whose favourite music is today's music rubbishing the work of The Beatles.

p.s. My world has been shattered, Shaun doesn't listen to everything ever. :o

p.p.s. I did not say Shaun's the only one allowed a valid opinion, what a ridiculous assumption, I said "I think the only TiBB member who can genuinely say that they do that is Shaun, which is why by and large you should all bow down to his opinions - at least they're informed, therefore there's more validity in what he's saying" by which I meant he listens to albums and reviews them, rather than spouting off opinions like MM&I's which are entirely baseless. I did not say Shaun's the only person with a valid opinion, I said there's more validity in what he's saying because we know he actually makes the effort to research before opening his mouth.
I'm tired of this notion that people who are fans of 'old' music [what a riddiculous concept] and constantly dump on new music are only doing it to appear knowledgeable or zany. Is it not at all possible that one can simply find the vast majority of new music to be disposable garbage? How on earth is that a 'narrow view'? It's completely different to someone like MM&I saying old music is crap because that's not an informed opinion. MM&I doesn't listen to old music. Has never even tried. We are all exposed to new music.

I listen to albums too. I just don't post reviews in public domains. I don't listen to albums by artists I know I won't enjoy because it would be a waste of time and it would not change my opinion. As I said singles based artists can be judged on the basis of their singles. An album from Leona Lewis or Justin Bieber is nothing more than a holding pen for potential singles. Do you think it is necessary to watch every single episode of Skins before one can say with any amount of certainty that Skins isin't really for them?

I could go and listen to a Sugababes album and if I do it enough through the magic of repetition a certain song might stick out and drill itself into my mind ... it happens to everyone at supermarkets when they fill their trolleys to some humdrum ambient melodies ... but I don't really have to do it in order to say I'm not into the Sugababes.

And seriously ... I'm just looking for good music. It doesn't have to be 'expressing controversial views' or 'challenging' me lol.

[Twilight]

Twilight
LOL At least i don't go on about You Me At Six 24/7, like you do with Lady GaGa.

[Z]

I'm tired of this notion that people who are fans of 'old' music [what a riddiculous concept] and constantly dump on new music are only doing it to appear knowledgeable or zany. Is it not at all possible that one can simply find the vast majority of new music to be disposable garbage? How on earth is that a 'narrow view'? It's completely different to someone like MM&I saying old music is crap because that's not an informed opinion. MM&I doesn't listen to old music. Has never even tried. We are all exposed to new music.

I listen to albums too. I just don't post reviews in public domains. I don't listen to albums by artists I know I won't enjoy because it would be a waste of time and it would not change my opinion. As I said singles based artists can be judged on the basis of their singles. An album from Leona Lewis or Justin Bieber is nothing more than a holding pen for potential singles. Do you think it is necessary to watch every single episode of Skins before one can say with any amount of certainty that Skins isin't really for them?

I could go and listen to a Sugababes album and if I do it enough through the magic of repetition a certain song might stick out and drill itself into my mind ... it happens to everyone at supermarkets when they fill their trolleys to some humdrum ambient melodies ... but I don't really have to do it in order to say I'm not into the Sugababes.

And seriously ... I'm just looking for good music. It doesn't have to be 'expressing controversial views' or 'challenging' me lol.

I said all, not vast majority, I was speaking about those who literally do do what you described. Those who do that about ALL modern music hold just as narrow a view as those like MM&I who don't give older stuff a chance, because it's the exact same opinion, just on opposing sides. That's why anyone listens to albums - because they enjoy them - but to have a properly balanced opinion, then by any standard you'd need to know what you're talking about, right? I'm not claiming I do it either, I'm just saying that a person with an informed opinion is someone who has done their research - just like any other debate. How do you know you won't enjoy something until you give it a try? Again, I'm just playing devil's advocate here - it's not as if I do this myself, but I mean with the Skins or the Sugababes examples you gave, who's to say there won't be a flash in the pan that takes you by surprise and you take enjoyment out of it? You don't know until you try - but you can certainly make your mind up based on a sample of material, as I reckon everyone does - why would you force yourself to listen/watch something that has failed to appeal to you previously - it just isn't an entirely informed opinion.

Anyway, I'm going to step out of this debate now, I'm verging on clueless when it comes to music, I'm just trying to make the point that while people are ****ting on MM&I for his point, I get what he's trying to say - people who say all modern music is crap can't say that unless they've given all modern music a try, which although would be pretty much impossible, if someone who had that opinion gave modern music a chance, they'd surely come across something that they don't think is crap.

[Stu]

You seem to be talking about something that doesn't exist then. I have never met either on this forum or in real life someone who has said all modern music is throwaway. And if they did say that chances are it was a generalization not designed to be taken seriously.

Billions of modern songs exist on the internet. It's implausible to be capable of hating each and every one of them. In the case that you do know such people in real life then you are right they are obviously as ignorant as people who say all old music is bad or something along those lines. Yin to the yang.

[Smithy]

LOL At least i don't go on about You Me At Six 24/7, like you do with Lady GaGa.

1. It was a joke
2. Yes, you do :joker:

[Zippy]

Hvent read the thread but...

whenever I see a Gaga item on the internet Im always nauseated reading the comments by her fans below it. They just come across like lost little kids looking for a surrogate Mummy. Tragic. And creepy.

[Rob]

I would have to say Justin Beiber

[Zippy]

I would have to say Justin Beiber

I dont even bother reading his fans BS. I know its just annoying little tweeny girls.

[Sarah.]

This thread has really given me some laughs. Thanks :)

[Billy]

take that fans, purely cause of laura.

[Smithy]

:laugh3:

[Jords]

After the RIP nonsense on Twitter, Justin Bieber.