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MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 07:31 PM
In school through an RE lesson we were doing this and for my homework i was looking through stuff. and I found some absoloterly vile stuff that is so horrible i cant believe it! :( :sad:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/justice/2378625/Dog-left-to-dangle-from-lead.html

this is an example of one of the things and OMG warning its horrible and so so so sad!

And i made this thread because of the fact the person only got 24 weeks in jail that is so unfair is it not??

24 weeks for doing that..

Mystic Mock
07-01-2011, 07:32 PM
some people dont realise how important animals are to the world.

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 07:34 PM
i actually hate that person who did that to that dog i mean if he couldnt afford it there are so many other ways, and the fact he tortued it OMG

Smithy
07-01-2011, 07:34 PM
if you think thats bad.... http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=160796&highlight=animal

InOne
07-01-2011, 07:37 PM
x395lv_veganisme-meat-is-murder-the-smith_news

This vid stuck with me for life. Only wanted to listen to the song :bawling:

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 07:38 PM
OMG SMITHY D: i watched 8 seconds of it D: signed it.

Smithy
07-01-2011, 07:39 PM
I watched like 3 minutes :/

Vicky.
07-01-2011, 07:47 PM
x395lv_veganisme-meat-is-murder-the-smith_news

This vid stuck with me for life. Only wanted to listen to the song :bawling:

Thats awful D:

LemonJam
07-01-2011, 07:49 PM
-raises my vegetarian recruitment banner high-

Any takers?

InOne
07-01-2011, 07:50 PM
Thats awful D:

I know eh, can't even watch it all the way through anymore. Stuff happening to Animals affects me more than stuff happening to people.

Maia
07-01-2011, 07:52 PM
-raises my vegetarian recruitment banner high-

Any takers?

-does the same- :D

Vicky.
07-01-2011, 07:53 PM
-raises my vegetarian recruitment banner high-

Any takers?

As much as I hate seeing things like this, I could never be a vegetarian.


I like meat too much. And I dont actually eat much else apart from meat. Did try tofu once though, its ok but not the same D:

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 07:54 PM
inone i cant watch it as it isnt a youtube video on my screen its just black? :/

InOne
07-01-2011, 07:56 PM
It's on daily motion. Isn't there a thing that says "watch on daily motion"?

Vicky.
07-01-2011, 07:56 PM
inone i cant watch it as it isnt a youtube video on my screen its just black? :/

You dont want to.

Its worse than the one smithy posted :sad:

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 07:59 PM
Omg that is so vile!

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 08:00 PM
I got 1 minitue 57 seconds in and stopped watching why do people do this? :/

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 08:02 PM
omg i decided to get 3 minitues in and im never going to be able to sleep again.

Vicky.
07-01-2011, 08:03 PM
omg i decided to get 3 minitues in and im never going to be able to sleep again.

You sound like me...forcing yourself to watch something that you know you dont want to see, then moaning about it :D

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 08:05 PM
1.44 is actually just evil he should be killed ..

Stacey.
07-01-2011, 08:19 PM
Ugh all of those are so horrible. I don't actually know how people could do things like that :(

Stu
07-01-2011, 08:21 PM
You don't really have a right to complain if you are a meat eater.

Smithy
07-01-2011, 08:22 PM
You don't really have a right to complain if you are a meat eater.

Yes you can, theres a difference between animal cruelty and killing animals for food

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 08:23 PM
I'm not a meat eater anymore Stu.

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 08:24 PM
You don't really have a right to complain if you are a meat eater.

and thats one of the stupidest things i have ever heard on the whole forum!

Stu
07-01-2011, 08:26 PM
Yes you can, theres a difference between animal cruelty and killing animals for food
That must be of great solace to the animal.

Battery farming, force feeding and plenty of other farm practices = animal cruelty. The only way it would take any sort of moral precedence is if killing the animal was necessary for your survival.

As it happens it's not.

and thats one of the stupidest things i have ever heard on the whole forum!
Explain.

Smithy
07-01-2011, 08:28 PM
That must be of great solace to the animal.

Battery farming, force feeding and plenty of other farm practices = animal cruelty. The only way it would take any sort of moral precedence is if killing the animal was necessary for your survival.

As it happens it's not.



Thats tarring all farming methods with the same brush, not all animals are battery farmed

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 08:29 PM
Explain.

LOL.

A dog being beaten, hanged so it can only stand barely on its legs, and it dies when it collapses.

"you have no right to complain if you are a meat eater"

er... no one is eating that dog, it was beaten by its owner and left to starve and collapse to death..

being a meat eater has nothing to do with loads of animal cruelty cases use your brain

Stu
07-01-2011, 08:30 PM
Thats tarring all farming methods with the same brush, not all animals are battery farmed
I never said they were. Still I somehow imagine free range and 'ethical' meat products remain a niche market.

Stu
07-01-2011, 08:32 PM
LOL.

A dog being beaten, hanged so it can only stand barely on its legs, and it dies when it collapses.

"you have no right to complain if you are a meat eater"

er... no one is eating that dog, it was beaten by its owner and left to starve and collapse to death..

being a meat eater has nothing to do with 99% of animal cruelty cases use your brain
Who said I was talking about the dog?

A large percentage of meat eating can be traced back to some form of animal cruelty. Of course most people don't seem to think it counts unless it's a dog, horse or dolphin.

Legend killer
07-01-2011, 08:33 PM
Sadly it is a dog eat dog world out there , see what i did there

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 08:34 PM
Who said you weren't.

You entered the thread and said "you have no right to complain if you're a meat eater"
most people would think that was a reply to "Animal Cruelty" which is the title of the thread, and what EVERYONE is talking about in this thread. If you weren't talking about the dog, or even animal cruelty in general. Maybe learn how to use the quote button. And still either way that comment you said is still stupid.

Meat eaters aren't asking for theese Animals to be beaten with poles, having their legs cut or any of this, Infact if they had known the cow they were eating had been beaten and leg cut off, i wouldn't be supriced if the person did not by that meat. Of course meat eaters have a right to complain about animal cruelty! And animals being beaten for "NO REASON" nothing to do with getting the food, at all, bar battery farming, which I am against. Most people who buy that chicken don't understand what has actually happened, or don't even realise anything that happened to the chickens.

Stu
07-01-2011, 08:38 PM
Who said you weren't.

You entered the thread and said "you have no right to complain if you're a meat eater"
most people would think that was a reply to "Animal Cruelty" which is the title of the thread, and what EVERYONE is talking about in this thread. If you weren't talking about the dog, maybe learn how to use the quote button.
I was talking about animal cruelty in general. Hanging a dog is animal cruelty. Battery farming chickens is animal cruelty. You can't condemn one whilst being entirely apathetic if not financially supporting the industry that causes the other.

Do you want me to paint a pretty little picture for you? Would that help make it clearer?

Meat eaters aren't asking for theese Animals to be beaten with poles, having their legs cut or any of this, Infact if they had known the cow they were eating had been beaten and leg cut off, i wouldn't be supriced if the person did not by that meat. Of course meat eaters have a right to complain about animal cruelty! And animals being beaten for "NO REASON" nothing to do with getting the food, at all, bar battery farming, which I am against. Most people who buy that chicken don't understand what has actually happened, or don't even realise anything that happened to the chickens.
Will this message be reposted in English at twelve tonight?

Most meat eaters directly support an industry that causes considerable harm and cruelty to animals. Yet when confronted with a thread like this will squirm and go 'oh the poor little animals!'. Well do something about it then and either stop buying meat or buy free range or ethical meat products.

That's my point. Or at least part of it.

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 08:40 PM
Who said I was talking about the dog?

A large percentage of meat eating can be traced back to some form of animal cruelty. Of course most people don't seem to think it counts unless it's a dog, horse or dolphin.

So you think it's right for dogs, horses and Dolphins to get beaten too then? I was using dog as an example, because that had NOTHING to do with meat eating. Which you complained about us complaining if we're meat eaters. Of course meat eaters can complain about animal cruelty :joker: Thats sooo stupid! Who are you to say, what meat we eat, for all you know the meat eaters in this thread aren't eating battery farm chickens or abused animals.

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 08:42 PM
I was talking about animal cruelty in general. Hanging a dog is animal cruelty. Battery farming chickens is animal cruelty. You can't condemn one whilst being entirely apathetic if not financially supporting the industry that causes the other.

Do you want me to paint a pretty little picture for you? Would that help make it clearer?

I think it's you that needs to pretty little picture to make it clearer, you said "You can't complain if you're a meat eater" about Animal cruelty. I then proved to you that you can complain obviously because, animal cruelty is nothing to do with meat eating (dog theory), which proved your theory out of the water straight away, hence it being the stupidiest quote ever.

"You can't complain if you're a meat eater". What you said is if you eat meat, you cant say animal cruelty is wrong. You blatenly can... due to my dog theory.

You need to go to school I think.

Stu
07-01-2011, 08:43 PM
So you think it's right for dogs, horses and Dolphins to get beaten too then?.
Where did I say that? Christ you are so ****ing dim.

Of course meat eaters can complain about animal cruelty :joker: Thats sooo stupid! Who are you to say, what meat we eat, for all you know the meat eaters in this thread aren't eating battery farm chickens or abused animals.
I doubt it. It's a marketing statistic. That is to say ... it is a stone cole fact. Most households do not care where their meat produce is sourced from.

You can take that to the bank.

Stu
07-01-2011, 08:44 PM
I think it's you that needs to pretty little picture to make it clearer, you said "You can't complain if you're a meat eater" about Animal cruelty. I then proved to you that you can complain obviously because, animal cruelty is nothing to do with meat eating, which proved your theory out of the water straight away, hence it being the stupidiest quote ever.

"You can't complain if you're a meat eater". What you said is if you eat meat, you cant say animal cruelty is wrong. You blatenly can... due to my dog theory.

You need to go to school I think.
You just have to be putting this on. You are literally too stupid to be real.

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 08:46 PM
Will this message be reposted in English at twelve tonight?

Most meat eaters directly support an industry that causes considerable harm and cruelty to animals. Yet when confronted with a thread like this will squirm and go 'oh the poor little animals!'. Well do something about it then and either stop buying meat or buy free range or ethical meat products.

That's my point. Or at least part of it.


Firstly, what what you said "You can't complain if you're a meat eater" you were assuming that US who had posted in the thread were supporting thoose industries that are cruelty to animals. Well I'll tell you when I was a meat eater I wasn't, as my parents are against it and buy very specific meat thankyou very much. And I have done something about it by not eating meat, and have always had free range. So of course I had a right to complain when i "WAS" a meat eater. How do you know 'Vicky' and 'Smithy' don't eat free range too? You assumed..

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 08:48 PM
You just have to be putting this on. You are literally too stupid to be real.

Says the one who said "You can't complain if you're a meat eater"
Blatently people can who are eating free range, and totally against animal abuse.

There i thought I'd make it simpler for you to understand by putting it in a sentance..

You said it in a factual way "YOU CANT COMPLAIN" well actually i think you find i can x

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
07-01-2011, 08:54 PM
i hope he dies of cancer

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 08:55 PM
Right let me explain this better.

This thread is called "Animal Cruelty vile"

Stu you entered the thread and said" you don't really have a right to complain if you are a meat eater"

I replied and said yes we do, for instance if a dog is being beaten and tortured by its owner, that has nothing to do with meat eating because it was brutally killed by it's owner. So that is animal cruelty that i have a right to complain against

Stu you said; who said i was talking about the dog? Animal cruelty happens over the world for meat that people eat

I said well, you said "You don't really have a right to complain if you're a meat eater" well as you said you were talking about animal cruelty in general, I said of course i have a right to complain as I use to eat free range, and a dog being beaten is nothing to do with meat eating so yes that does blow away your quote about animal cruelty. As the dog isn't being eaten, just killed by its owner.

Stu
07-01-2011, 08:55 PM
Firstly, what what you said "You can't complain if you're a meat eater" you were assuming that US who had posted in the thread were supporting thoose industries that are cruelty to animals. Well I'll tell you when I was a meat eater I wasn't, as my parents are against it and buy very specific meat thankyou very much. And I have done something about it by not eating meat, and have always had free range. So of course I had a right to complain when i "WAS" a meat eater. How do you know 'Vicky' and 'Smithy' don't eat free range too? You assumed..
What if I believe killing any animal you don't need for your survival amounts to animal cruelty? Many people believe that. That's another argument entirely. Moving back to the point :

Of course I assumed. It was a general comment made to the general consumer of meat produce ... most of whom have absoloutely no idea where their meat is sourced from. It would have been both implausible and impractical to consult every active TiBB poster via PM and pose them a ten minute questionnaire on their meat eating habits and what they buy at the supermarket before posting a general comment most people would be levelheaded enough to not get mind bogglingly pedantic about.

Of course this flew all over your head because the main aim here was to try and mount some sort of offensive argument full of insults and 'theories' to show me up for the sake of it, thinking you could 'take on the big boy' or something. You may as well be throwing bits of cotton candy at a ****ing warship.

Now I won't tell you to **** off. I'm going to **** off. I would honestly rather not waste my time getting baited by an incomprehensibly stupid individual such as yourself. No doubt you have the ability to change the argument to suit your needs, confuse my well made points and throw me off with you amazing ability to just ****ing invent languages when the need arises.

This is character assasination. From me to you.

Vicky.
07-01-2011, 08:57 PM
People who eat meat would obviously still be shocked and sickened by seeing something like that.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is on a totally different planet to others :/

I will be honest and say I dont really know where my meat comes from most of the time, but I do buy free range eggs (go me :laugh: ) but I dont think that gives me any less right to say the video above is totally vile.

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 08:58 PM
Well what you said was wrong Stu and I proved my point ta ta.

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 08:58 PM
People who eat meat would obviously still be shocked and sickened by seeing something like that.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is on a totally different planet to others :/

I will be honest and say I dont really know where my meat comes from most of the time, but I do buy free range eggs (go me :laugh: ) but I dont think that gives me any less right to say the video above is totally vile.

Yes exactly, and you do have a right to complain if you do eat meat.

Stu
07-01-2011, 08:59 PM
People who eat meat would obviously still be shocked and sickened by seeing something like that.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is on a totally different planet to others :/

I will be honest and say I dont really know where my meat comes from most of the time, but I do buy free range eggs (go me :laugh: ) but I dont think that gives me any less right to say the video above is totally vile.
Of course they would still be shocked and of course they would find it vile. I said nothing to suggest any different. Most rational human beings would be shocked.

I was refering to actively complaining and crying about one type animal cruelty in a storm of fury in your posts whilst possibly supporting and maintaining the industry of another.

Of course you can complain. It seems I need to point that out. Lest some knuckleheaded douche take it on an ultra literal, supressing-my-freedom-of-speech level. You can complain. It's just hillariously hypocritical to do so.

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 09:00 PM
Of course they would still be shocked and of course they would find it vile. I said nothing to suggest any different. Most rational human beings would be shocked.

I was refering to actively complaining and crying about one type animal cruelty whilst possibly supporting and maintaining the industry of another.

before you weren't using word's like possibly :conf:
you used words of "You dont have a right" just assumptions, there was no maybe words involved.

Vicky.
07-01-2011, 09:01 PM
Of course they would still be shocked and of course they would find it vile. I said nothing to suggest any different. Most rational human beings would be shocked.

I was refering to actively complaining and crying about one type animal cruelty whilst possibly supporting and maintaining the industry of another.

Ya I get that.

I guess the thing though, when eating meat...you dont actually see what happens, You just buy it from the shop and dont give a second thought to how it got there...or most people dont anyways

Kinda out of sight out of mind.

Vicky.
07-01-2011, 09:02 PM
Of course you can complain. It seems I need to point that out. Lest some knuckleheaded douche take it on an ultra literal, supressing-my-freedom-of-speech level. You can complain. It's just hillariously hypocritical to do so.

Oh yeah, it is hypocritical, I agree.

The out of sight out of mind thing applies here too :p

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 09:04 PM
Oh yeah, it is hypocritical, I agree.

The out of sight out of mind thing applies here too :p

Yeah thats what i was trying to also get across to Stu for people like you who don't know where they get their meat from

Infact if they had known the cow they were eating had been beaten and leg cut off, i wouldn't be supriced if the person did not by that meat

^what i said to Stu

Stu
07-01-2011, 09:04 PM
Ya I get that.

I guess the thing though, when eating meat...you dont actually see what happens, You just buy it from the shop and dont give a second thought to how it got there...or most people dont anyways

Kinda out of sight out of mind.
Yep, it's a sort of a way of resolving yourself of responsibility. I think that's what I hate most of all. I have come to realize now that I'm not really comftorable eating an animal I myself would not be prepared to kill. Just seems cheap.

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 09:06 PM
Oh yeah, it is hypocritical, I agree.

The out of sight out of mind thing applies here too :p

Yeah it may be hypocritical for you if you were complaining about battery farming, and you were eating battery farmed chickens, but you have a right to complain about Animal cruelty in general, as much as ANYBODY.

And the reason why i was so defensive is because i have eaten free ranged my whole life, and I don't want to be said that i have 'no right' to complain

Vicky.
07-01-2011, 09:06 PM
Yep, it's a sort of a way of resolving yourself of responsibility. I think that's what I hate most of all. I have come to realize now that I'm not really comftorable eating an animal I myself would not be prepared to kill. Just seems cheap.

Good point.

Still, I enjoy meat too much to give it much thought, stuff like this kinda does make me think I shouldnt, but I dont like the quorn stuff and eat next to no veg, meat probably makes up about 50% of my diet tbh.

Yeah, that makes me selfish..but I will forget about it by tomorrow when I'm eating a bacon sandwich.

Ignorance is bliss, in some case :/

Stu
07-01-2011, 09:07 PM
Ignorance is bliss
Nail meet head :tongue:.

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 09:07 PM
Vicky meat is barely that much more expensive free range.. For all you know you are eating a Pig in Inones video, that wished he was never born.

Vicky.
07-01-2011, 09:08 PM
Yeah it may be hypocritical for you if you were complaining about battery farming, and you were eating battery farmed chickens, but you have a right to complain about Animal cruelty in general, as much as ANYBODY.

And the reason why i was so defensive is because i have eaten free ranged my whole life, and I don't want to be said that i have 'no right' to complain

I dont think stu meant everyone who eats meat and that had no right to complain about animal cruelty in general. In fact I know he didnt as he explained ^^^^ what he actually meant :S

Vicky.
07-01-2011, 09:09 PM
Nail meet head :tongue:.
:D

Vicky meat is barely that much more expensive free range..

I dont care about the cost. I might eat free range meat already, I dont know. I just pick up whichever joint of beef looks nicer on the shelf :/

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 09:09 PM
Yeah i know thats why i was trying to point out Stus mistake of not targeting us but targeting society

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 09:10 PM
And anyway do you think 24 weeks is enough for the first post link?..

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
07-01-2011, 09:14 PM
And anyway do you think 24 weeks is enough for the first post link?..

no :bored:

if it were up to me he would be hung like the dog, but im like ridiculously OTT when it comes to animal cruelty

Vicky.
07-01-2011, 09:15 PM
And anyway do you think 24 weeks is enough for the first post link?..

Nope not at all.

Then again sentances for most things arent harsh enough IMO. You can be out in 5 years(less in some cases) for killing a person.

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 09:17 PM
I thought for what the person did instead of having just "24 weeks" it should be like death penalty

InOne
07-01-2011, 09:18 PM
Has anyone ever seen the vid of those kids who threw the cat off the tower block and kept bringing it back up and throwing it down until it died? Think they got under half a year, even when it was on tape

Vicky.
07-01-2011, 09:20 PM
Has anyone ever seen the vid of those kids who threw the cat off the tower block and kept bringing it back up and throwing it down until it died? Think they got under half a year, even when it was on tape

No D:

And I dont think I want to either...

I forced myself to watch that one of the girl throwing all the puppies in the river, was awful. I hope the 4chan people or whoever it was that were 'hunting' her...found her :bored:

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 09:20 PM
Omg theese sound vile!

InOne
07-01-2011, 09:21 PM
No D:

And I dont think I want to either...

I forced myself to watch that one of the girl throwing all the puppies in the river, was awful. I hope the 4chan people or whoever it was that were 'hunting' her...found her :bored:

Saw it on lawless Britain or something, don't think it's on the net lol Apprently they got a really hard time in prison which was good, they hate people who are cruel to animals. That sadistically anyway

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 09:21 PM
Theese people deserve to be dead..

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
07-01-2011, 09:21 PM
i am never watching anything like that ever again :bawling:

it upsets but it angers me too :L

i still havent recovered from 3 guys 1 hammer, undoubtedly THE worst video circulating the internet

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 09:24 PM
i get so angry too like who the hell actually does that D:. I mean puppies have never done anything!

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 09:25 PM
Omg vicky you made me watch the girl throwing puppies and the puppies cry!!

Vicky.
07-01-2011, 09:25 PM
Omg vicky you made me watch the girl throwing puppies and the puppies cry!!

Yeah, its pretty horrible.

If I knew who she was, I would hunt her and thrown her in the ****ing river, but make sure she hit her head on a big pointy rock.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
07-01-2011, 09:27 PM
i have never seen anything like that with animals i literally dont think i could watch it :bawling:

have yall seen 3 guys 1 hammer its awful :bawling:

i actually didnt sleep on the night i saw it :L

Vicky.
07-01-2011, 09:28 PM
I'm not sure scott...whats it about.

I have seen one of those where they are cutting their dick or something, not sure what that was called D:

InOne
07-01-2011, 09:28 PM
http://snabbieyoyo.org/albums/icanhas/cute_puppy_pictures_outside_needs_hug.jpg

Vicky.
07-01-2011, 09:30 PM
http://snabbieyoyo.org/albums/icanhas/cute_puppy_pictures_outside_needs_hug.jpg

:love:

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 09:31 PM
Yeah, its pretty horrible.

If I knew who she was, I would hunt her and thrown her in the ****ing river, but make sure she hit her head on a big pointy rock.

Theres a facebook page saying to find this bitch.
She was found her name is Katja something. And she recieved no punishement due to being underage but is recieving death threats and has been attacked

Vicky.
07-01-2011, 09:33 PM
Theres a facebook page saying to find this bitch.
She was found her name is Katja something. And she recieved no punishement due to being underage but is recieving death threats and has been attacked

I rarely say this, but GOOD. Bitch had it coming

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 09:33 PM
I'm not sure scott...whats it about.

I have seen one of those where they are cutting their dick or something, not sure what that was called D:

No.. It's not that, its much worse.

It's about 3 guys murdering and tourting a person when hes alive. YUK i cant describe it. PROPER torutre. i mean actual torture. i dont know how its on the net??

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
07-01-2011, 09:33 PM
I'm not sure scott...whats it about.

I have seen one of those where they are cutting their dick or something, not sure what that was called D:

it is evidence that leaked from a murder trial :L

click with caution :bawling:

basically, 3 young guys torture an old man to death, they wrap a hammer in a plastic bag and whack his face with it, stick screwdrivers in his eyes and his throat and stuff and all the time hes like gargling on the floor coz he cant talk coz they did something to his voice box or something idk but its awful :bawling:

idk if its still about i saw it last year

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 09:34 PM
OMG THE eyes dont remind me scott :bawling:

Stu
07-01-2011, 09:34 PM
Anyone who really thinks human beings deserve to die because they were cruel to animals is a ****ing tard. I'm sorry. There's a limit. Punish them. Humiliate them. But killing them is just ****ing riddiculous.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
07-01-2011, 09:34 PM
:bawling:

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 09:35 PM
Anyone who really thinks human beings deserve to die because they were cruel to animals is a ****ing tard. I'm sorry. There's a limit. Punish them. Humiliate them. But killing them is just ****ing riddiculous.

They had no respect for other lives why should we respect hers.

Vicky.
07-01-2011, 09:35 PM
No.. It's not that, its much worse.

It's about 3 guys murdering and tourting a person when hes alive. YUK i cant describe it. PROPER torutre. i mean actual torture. i dont know how its on the net??

it is evidence that leaked from a murder trial :L

click with caution :bawling:

basically, 3 young guys torture an old man to death, they wrap a hammer in a plastic bag and whack his face with it, stick screwdrivers in his eyes and his throat and stuff and all the time hes like gargling on the floor coz he cant talk coz they did something to his voice box or something idk but its awful :bawling:

idk if its still about i saw it last year

Erm yeah, wont be watching that then D:

How on earth is stuff like this allowed to be on the net...or is it one of those things that gets took down all the time?

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
07-01-2011, 09:36 PM
im one of those people that value animals lives just as much as humans

most people think thats kinda wrong but meh

Vicky.
07-01-2011, 09:36 PM
Anyone who really thinks human beings deserve to die because they were cruel to animals is a ****ing tard. I'm sorry. There's a limit. Punish them. Humiliate them. But killing them is just ****ing riddiculous.

Meh, I dont think they should be killed. But slapped about a bit, hell yeah. Show them how it feels.

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 09:36 PM
Erm yeah, wont be watching that then D:

How on earth is stuff like this allowed to be on the net...or is it one of those things that gets took down all the time?

Nope its always been up it confuses me.. as my friend made me see it like 4m onths after saying its so vile. D: It's so wrong because the guy can't talk because he's medically ill as well i found out D: and i dont like blood

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 09:37 PM
im one of those people that value animals lives just as much as humans

most people think thats kinda wrong but meh

Me too

Stu
07-01-2011, 09:39 PM
Me too
So all farmers deserve the death penalty for killing hundreds of thousands of animals a year?

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
07-01-2011, 09:40 PM
So all farmers deserve the death penalty for killing hundreds of thousands of animals a year?

but its not the same think is it :nono:

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
07-01-2011, 09:40 PM
farmers dont get a kick out of doing it, they dont record it for fun and stick it on youtube, and idk but i think they kill them in a sort of humane way if thats possible

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
07-01-2011, 09:42 PM
i found the english translation subtitles for 3G1H :bawling:

“Hold on, hold on. Be neater, ****!” likely saying that to watch out for the blood.
*Laughing*
“Hold on, hold on, hold on, don’t hit him, don’t hit him. Watch him…” the rest of the sentence is indistinct, but he’s likely telling the guy to watch for the blood as he’s zooming in to capture the close up
The following audio is unclear.
[After the screwdriver stabbing]
“What? With what?” as the cameraman responds to the boy who stabs the victim
“What, he’s still alive?” says the guy stabbing the victim
“He’s still moving his arms after I ripped up his intestines” the cameraman muffles indistinctly
“He’s having a ****ed up day” says the stabbing guy after he’d stepped on his stomach.
[More muffled talk as he proceeds to stab him in the eyes with the screwdriver]
“Get over here fast. Kill him already.”
“What?” says the stabber
“Kill him already.”
“I already put the hammer back. He’s already dead.”
“I poked out his eyes and he’s still not dead” says the cameraman
“Get the knife” cameraman continues
*Proceeds to bludgeon him then interrupts by saying something indistinct*
“More, more” cameraman telling the other guy to keep bludgeoning him to make sure he’s dead
“Hold on, hold on”
*They start walking back to the car*
More muffled talk from the blond killer
“Wash your hands” cameraman says and tells him to spray cleaning chemical on the hammer
“I’ll hold it”
*Muffled talk from the guy washing the hammer*
*More muffled talk from the guy washing his face and walking back from his car*
“I stuck the screwdriver in his brain” says the camera man
*Muffled talk from the guy washing his hands*
“I got him in the nose from his eye” or something along those lines
“I don’t understand how he was alive? I felt his brain” says the camera man
“I was holding the screw driver like this *muffled/don’t understand*”
Before the video ends the blond guy says “Alright, let’s get a picture”

now i think yall will agree with me, these people deserve to die a slow and painful death

Stu
07-01-2011, 09:42 PM
farmers dont get a kick out of doing it, they dont record it for fun and stick it on youtube, and idk but i think they kill them in a sort of humane way if thats possible
I thought you both value all life as being equal?

So is it okay to kill a human too as long as I am quick and efficient?

You either believe the bullshit you type or you don't. What is it worth if you just keep changing it as you go alone?

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
07-01-2011, 09:44 PM
well no i dont think its OK what they do but i still eat meat

im a hypocrite

*hangs head in shame*

:bawling:

spitfire
07-01-2011, 11:21 PM
You don't really have a right to complain if you are a meat eater.
Agreed.Killing an animal is cruel.

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 11:24 PM
So all farmers deserve the death penalty for killing hundreds of thousands of animals a year?

Farmers are vile people.

Stu
07-01-2011, 11:25 PM
Farmers are vile people.
You didn't answer the question.

You used to eat free range meat and you defended free range meat eaters awhile back but now animals should be treated the exact same and should be given the exact same rights as people? In which case farmers trying to make a living should all get the death penalty?

What's that ... life inprisonment for you for the time you spent supporting them?

Is it fair to say as usual you have absoloutely no idea what you are talking about?

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 11:27 PM
i found the english translation subtitles for 3G1H :bawling:

“Hold on, hold on. Be neater, ****!” likely saying that to watch out for the blood.
*Laughing*
“Hold on, hold on, hold on, don’t hit him, don’t hit him. Watch him…” the rest of the sentence is indistinct, but he’s likely telling the guy to watch for the blood as he’s zooming in to capture the close up
The following audio is unclear.
[After the screwdriver stabbing]
“What? With what?” as the cameraman responds to the boy who stabs the victim
“What, he’s still alive?” says the guy stabbing the victim
“He’s still moving his arms after I ripped up his intestines” the cameraman muffles indistinctly
“He’s having a ****ed up day” says the stabbing guy after he’d stepped on his stomach.
[More muffled talk as he proceeds to stab him in the eyes with the screwdriver]
“Get over here fast. Kill him already.”
“What?” says the stabber
“Kill him already.”
“I already put the hammer back. He’s already dead.”
“I poked out his eyes and he’s still not dead” says the cameraman
“Get the knife” cameraman continues
*Proceeds to bludgeon him then interrupts by saying something indistinct*
“More, more” cameraman telling the other guy to keep bludgeoning him to make sure he’s dead
“Hold on, hold on”
*They start walking back to the car*
More muffled talk from the blond killer
“Wash your hands” cameraman says and tells him to spray cleaning chemical on the hammer
“I’ll hold it”
*Muffled talk from the guy washing the hammer*
*More muffled talk from the guy washing his face and walking back from his car*
“I stuck the screwdriver in his brain” says the camera man
*Muffled talk from the guy washing his hands*
“I got him in the nose from his eye” or something along those lines
“I don’t understand how he was alive? I felt his brain” says the camera man
“I was holding the screw driver like this *muffled/don’t understand*”
Before the video ends the blond guy says “Alright, let’s get a picture”

now i think yall will agree with me, these people deserve to die a slow and painful death

:shocked:

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 11:28 PM
You didn't answer the question.

You used to eat free range meat and you defended free range meat eaters awhile back but now animals should be treated the exact same and should be given the exact same rights as people? In which case farmers trying to make a living should all get the death penalty?

What's that ... life inprisonment for you for the time you spent supporting them?

Is it fair to say as usual you have absoloutely no idea what you are talking about?

I do have an idea. And I said Life imprisonment for Tourting animals and being vile to them, whereas farmers are not abusing them, tourting them. So no not life prison, but they are murderers.

And I was never supporting them, I was a vegertarian at the age of 10-14. Then stopped for a year cause of people at school, then I am again, I have never supported them thankyou very much.

Stu
07-01-2011, 11:33 PM
I do have an idea. And I said Life imprisonment for Tourting animals and being vile to them, whereas farmers are not abusing them, tourting them. So no not life prison, but they are murderers.

And I was never supporting them, I was a vegertarian at the age of 10-14. Then stopped for a year cause of people at school, then I am again, I have never supported them thankyou very much.
You said 'death penalty' awhile back. You also said you believed animals should have the exact same rights as humans. You agreed with this notion a second time when Scott said it.

You are so full of ****. If an animal should have the same rights as humans then shouldn't they be allowed roam free? Isin't the farmer guilty of falsely imprisoning them and preparing them for murder? Do you think all farmers should go to jail?

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 11:37 PM
You said 'death penalty' awhile back. You also said you believed animals should have the exact same rights as humans. You agreed with this notion a second time when Scott said it.

You are so full of ****. If an animal should have the same rights as humans then shouldn't they be allowed roam free? Isin't the farmer guilty of falsely imprisoning them and preparing them for murder? Do you think all farmers should go to jail?

I said death penalty for "abusing, tortuing, killing multiple animals" Farmers don't torture their animals. The girl who threw several puppies in did, so i said "death penalty" for her.

Yeah animals should have freedom, But most farms I have visited in the farms defense, have acres of fields for the animals and their family, tbh. Farmers shouldn't go to jail because of society changing, but I believe animals should be free

spitfire
07-01-2011, 11:39 PM
Do you think all farmers should go to jail?
No, Vegetarians need farmers too!

Stu
07-01-2011, 11:41 PM
I said death penalty for "abusing, tortuing, killing multiple animals" Farmers don't torture their animals. The girl who threw several puppies in did, so i said "death penalty" for her.

Yeah animals should have freedom, But most farms I have visited in the farms defense, have acres of fields for the animals and their family, tbh. Farmers shouldn't go to jail because of society changing, but I believe animals should be free
So now it is death penalty again? It was life in jail a few minutes ago.

Most farms that preapre animals for slaughter keep them in very small conditions. They are brought to slaughterhouses packed into trucks. They are then killed. Would you accept this being done to people? After all you are the one that said they should be treated the same as people.

If I kill a person I go to jail. If a farmer kills an animal he doesn't? Your views are all over the place. One would imagine you are making this up as you go along.

MTVN
07-01-2011, 11:41 PM
I said death penalty for "abusing, tortuing, killing multiple animals" Farmers don't torture their animals. The girl who threw several puppies in did, so i said "death penalty" for her.

Yeah animals should have freedom, But most farms I have visited in the farms defense, have acres of fields for the animals and their family, tbh. Farmers shouldn't go to jail because of society changing, but I believe animals should be free

What is worse? Killing a human being or abusing an animal?

I hope that you pick the former, so you are essentially advocating a punishment which is far more reprehensible than the crime itself.

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 11:43 PM
So now it is death penalty again? It was life in jail a few minutes ago.

Most farms that preapre animals for slaughter keep them in very small conditions. They are brought to slaughterhouses packed into trucks. They are then killed. Would you accept this being done to people? After all you are the one that said they should be treated the same as people.

If I kill a person I go to jail. If a farmer kills an animal he doesn't? Your views are all over the place. One would imagine you are making this up as you go along.

ive said farmers are vile and I disagree with them killing animals!! And animals shouild be free. One can only assume you can't read.

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 11:47 PM
What is worse? Killing a human being or abusing an animal?

I hope that you pick the former, so you are essentially advocating a punishment which is far more reprehensible than the crime itself.

Both as bad as each other,
Unless by abusing the animal lives. Then killing A human is worse as that is murder.

MeMyselfAndI
07-01-2011, 11:47 PM
I'm sleeping now ta ta.

Stu
07-01-2011, 11:49 PM
ive said farmers are vile and I disagree with them killing animals!! And animals shouild be free. One can only assume you can't read.
You are avoiding the point. And the questions.

And now you just said again that killing a human and abusing an animal are as bad as each other? So shouldn't farmers be in jail?

Jesus christ. I love animals but I would happily abuse a litter of puppies to save a single human being.

Harry!
07-01-2011, 11:59 PM
A horse got abused in a book shop once...

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
08-01-2011, 12:04 AM
A horse got abused in a book shop once...

:laugh3:

Harry!
08-01-2011, 01:36 PM
:laugh3:

The horrible farmer neglected it and let it escape from it's stable, not only to be in more distress after wondering into a bookshop.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
08-01-2011, 01:38 PM
The horrible farmer neglected it and let it escape from it's stable, not only to be in more distress after wondering into a bookshop.

:joker: