Christian Lady has cure for Gayness

[Crimson Dynamo]

A psychotherapist faces being struck off after trying to 'convert' a homosexual man. Lesley Pilkington, 60, a therapist for 20 years, is accused of 'praying to God' to 'heal' the patient . Mrs Pilkington, will appear at a landmark disciplinary hearing this week where she faces being stripped of her accreditation to the British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1347634/Christian-therapist-Lesley-Pilkington-claims-make-gay-men-straight-faces-sack.html#ixzz1BDfiA7KI

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

dyke

[Crimson Dynamo]

dyke

Looks like she can help all the rainbow community, yes

not so sure about transmitters however

[Zippy]

what a dumbass bitch.

she's a psycho something thats for sure. Sounds more like a religious nutjobby than a therapist.

[Patrick]

dyke

:joker::joker::joker:

[Shaun]

I worry she's being made an example of. After all it's a man's prerogative to "turn himself straight" if he's naive enough to think he can. Sure, she's practicing a load of balls - and it does give the impression that homosexuality is something to be repressed - but I'd say she was just immoral, not illegal.

[_Seth]

Stupid *****. :rolleyes:

[MTVN]

I'm not sure about this one, it depends if she encourages gay people to seek "treatment" or if she just agrees to give it to them when they approach her, if it is the latter then I dont think they are justified in sacking her

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

i bet shes ugly too

[Zippy]

if it is the latter then I dont think they are justified in sacking her

yes they are. She shouldnt be indulging him that way whatever he initiates. It's morally and ethically wrong. That's why she's facing disciplinary charges. The practice in question just isn't acceptable. No respectable body would condone such a ridiculous method of "curing" homosexuality. Bitch can't be trusted anymore.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

kill her with fire

[MTVN]

yes they are. She shouldnt be indulging him that way whatever he initiates. It's morally and ethically wrong. That's why she's facing disciplinary charges. The practice in question just isn't acceptable. No respectable body would condone such a ridiculous method of "curing" homosexuality. Bitch can't be trusted anymore.

It's her belief that you can cure homosexuality though, you can't control thought, you can't stop her from believing that. If she does not try and encourage the "treatment" then she is not imposing those views on anyone who isnt willing to hear them so not infringing upon anybody elses rights

[Zippy]

It's her belief that you can cure homosexuality though, you can't control thought, you can't stop her from believing that. If she does not try and encourage the "treatment" then she is not imposing those views on anyone who isnt willing to hear them so not infringing upon anybody elses rights

If she is practising certain forbidden behaviour on a patient then she should absolutely face disciplinary action. She is basically encouraging this guy to think that he can be cured of homosexuality. That is wrong wrong wrong. It doesnt matter whether she is imposing her views. She should be encouraging him to come to terms with his sexuality whatever it is. Thats what a decent psychotherapist would do. Not some bloody voodoo ritual to rid him of it!

No, she needs kicking out. Her methods are unacceptable.

[MTVN]

If she is practising certain forbidden behaviour on a patient then she should absolutely face disciplinary action. She is basically encouraging this guy to think that he can be cured of homosexuality. That is wrong wrong wrong. It doesnt matter whether she is imposing her views. She should be encouraging him to come to terms with his sexuality whatever it is. Thats what a decent psychotherapist would do. Not some bloody voodoo ritual to rid him of it!

No, she needs kicking out. Her methods are unacceptable.

But supposedly he approached her asking for her to "treat" him, he asked her to provide a service and that's what she was doing. The only people that would approach her are those who share the belief that homosexuality can be cured, so she wasnt encouraging him to believe anything; he already believed it himself. I might consider it wrong, you might consider it wrong, but she doesnt and neither would the gay people who approached her wanting to be "cured".

As long as she doesnt try and impose this belief on other people and if it doesn't intefere with her work then she can believe whatever the hell she wants

[Zippy]

Of course she's imposing her beliefs if she is actually carrying out some kinda of de-gaying ritual on him! She obviously believes in this practice so she certainly wasn't disuading him. Which is what she should have done if she was doing her job properly. So now she faces charges. Therapists can have a huge influence on their patients and they have to be trusted with that responsibility.

And any therapist who thinks that a person can be cured of their sexuality is really way to stupid to be in the job PERIOD.

[Tom4784]

She should face a disciplinary committee, surely she should have tried to help him accept his sexuality instead of humoring him like that as it would only make things worse in the long run.

[MTVN]

Of course she's imposing her beliefs if she is actually carrying out some kinda of de-gaying ritual on him! She obviously believes in this practice so she certainly wasn't disuading him. Which is what she should have done if she was doing her job properly. So now she faces charges. Therapists can have a huge influence on their patients and they have to be trusted with that responsibility.

And any therapist who thinks that a person can be cured of their sexuality is really way to stupid to be in the job PERIOD.

If someone wants to be "cured" of their homosexuality, and they believe that it can be done, then if she is also of this opinion why shouldnt she be allowed to try and provide the service that they require? Because you disagree? The person approached her asking to be "treated" not the other way round.

[Livia]

Mrs Pilkington is an idiot, obviously, and doesn't understand the constraints of her profession. She probably bought her diploma on ebay.

[Zippy]

If someone wants to be "cured" of their homosexuality, and they believe that it can be done, then if she is also of this opinion why shouldnt she be allowed to try and provide the service that they require? Because you disagree? The person approached her asking to be "treated" not the other way round.

Oh dear. I think we'll have to agree to disagree or we'll go round in circles.

She's facing disciplinary charges so I'm happy bout that. The woman is unfit to be a therapist IMHO. She's certainly braindead about sexuality.

[MTVN]

Oh dear. I think we'll have to agree to disagree or we'll go round in circles.

She's facing disciplinary charges so I'm happy bout that. The woman is unfit to be a therapist IMHO. She's certainly braindead about sexuality.

Yes it looks like it.

"She said: 'He told me was looking for a treatment for being gay.

'I told him I only work using a Christian biblical framework and he said that was exactly what he wanted.'"

I'm just saying that if that is true then I think she has a defence otherwise I wouldnt support her

[BB_Eye]

Good to hear she won't get away with it.

Nice one Patrick Strudwick

[keithafc]

She should be allowed to help people. So what if people disagree? If some one comes to her looking for help, then fair play.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

*throws a butt plug at her*

[Zippy]

She should be allowed to help people. So what if people disagree? If some one comes to her looking for help, then fair play.

but the kind of help she gave him fell outside of her professional guidelines.

and she isn't helping him, actually. Helping him delude himself maybe.

[Livia]

She should be allowed to help people. So what if people disagree? If some one comes to her looking for help, then fair play.

Whether people disagree or not, her actions were unethical. She overstepped the boundaries of her profession.

[Zippy]

*throws a butt plug at her*

*hopes its one thats just been used*

[Stu]

She should be allowed to help people. So what if people disagree? If some one comes to her looking for help, then fair play.
And would you hold the same view if a racist adoptive couple who believed in the nonexistent science of race conversion delivered their black child up to this woman for 'deniggerfication'?

After all going by that post science doesn't seem to factor into it as long as someone believes it could work, right?

[BB_Eye]

More than that, I am not convinced that any form of ex-gay therapy could anything but harmful. Patients don't benefit from getting defrauded.

[keithafc]

And would you hold the same view if a racist adoptive couple who believed in the nonexistent science of race conversion delivered their black child up to this woman for 'deniggerfication'?

After all going by that post science doesn't seem to factor into it as long as someone believes it could work, right?
A bit different.

Race is FACT. Religion is a belief system. People who BELIEVE black people are bad people or skin colour makes a person what they are ARE wrong in the factual sense.

Religion on the other hand is a belief system and if some one comes looking for help, i don't see the problem with some one giving them help if they share the same belief system.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

*hopes its one thats just been used*

*by russell grant*

[Niall]

Stupid bitch. I can't believe some people think being gay is a choice. Its as much of a choice as me having to wear glasses. :rolleyes:

I hope she's fired and has no pension so she will have no money when she's old. That'll teach her for being an intolerant cow. :devil:

[Zippy]

Stupid bitch. I can't believe some people think being gay is a choice. Its as much of a choice as me having to wear glasses. :rolleyes:



LOL. You could wear contacts. :p

[BB_Eye]

A bit different.

Race is FACT. Religion is a belief system. People who BELIEVE black people are bad people or skin colour makes a person what they are ARE wrong in the factual sense.

Religion on the other hand is a belief system and if some one comes looking for help, i don't see the problem with some one giving them help if they share the same belief system.It's not about belief systems. What Mrs. Pilkington did was abuse the trust her patients had in her. Using pseudopsychology on vulnerable and naive people (there are so many people who seek therapy out there who lack the capacity to make important decisions) and passing it off as genuine therapy is nothing short of fraud and charlatanism. Not surprising given the common inclination of manipulative people is to target easy prey for their personal gratification.

Homosexuality is no longer considered a mental disorder and quite rightly so. If she is attempting to "cure" perfectly normal human behaviour like homosexuality (no disorders or mental illnesses), then she is in the wrong profession. There are already enough churches in the world where she can push her ideological agenda.

[keithafc]

Fair enough. I think if she was going to offer help, she should not of done it during work.

[MTVN]

But is it not the right of the individual to seek this "treatment" if they so wish?

[joeysteele]

Whether people disagree or not, her actions were unethical. She overstepped the boundaries of her profession.

Have to agree here with you Livia and also Zippy's posts too, she is at the very least misleading anyone who goes to her so as you say Livia,she has overstepped the boundaries of her profession.

[Zippy]

But is it not the right of the individual to seek this "treatment" if they so wish?

he can seek what he likes but she doesn't have to offer up practices that are not within her realms as a registered psychotherapist.

If he asked her to amputate his leg would you think it ok for her to do so?

[MTVN]

he can seek what he likes but she doesn't have to offer up practices that are not within her realms as a registered psychotherapist.

If he asked her to amputate his leg would you think it ok for her to do so?

Yeah, fair enough I suppose.

[InOne]

Maybe if she gets beaten or something it will cure her faith in humanity.

[Crimson Dynamo]

A psychotherapist faces being struck off after trying to 'convert' a homosexual man. Lesley Pilkington, 60, a therapist for 20 years, is accused of 'praying to God' to 'heal' the patient . Mrs Pilkington, will appear at a landmark disciplinary hearing this week where she faces being stripped of her accreditation to the British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1347634/Christian-therapist-Lesley-Pilkington-claims-make-gay-men-straight-faces-sack.html#ixzz1BDfiA7KI


You are kidding me? What a mindless and offensive thread!
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[Crimson Dynamo]

You are kidding me? What a mindless and offensive thread!
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was that when you were a christian you two faced geek?

[arista]

"You are kidding me? What a mindless and offensive thread! "


Stop spamming

Grow Up.
This thread you did had a proper link.

That Other thread
that was Locked fast by UKTurtle
did not have a link
It was you own words.

[Crimson Dynamo]

"You are kidding me? What a mindless and offensive thread! "


Stop spamming

Grow Up.
This thread you did had a proper link.

That Other thread
that was Locked fast by UKTurtle
did not have a link
It was you own words.

spam is advertising, you must use the correct terminology if you want to be a mod

[letmein]

She can practice whatever she wants. HOWEVER, she needs to be stripped of her accreditation. That's an endorsement from that board, which has certain requirements to be met. They can't go along with this.