Big Brother 12 | What Do You Think NEEDS To Stay?

[Patrick]

Hi New Forum :love:
Oh my god, it feels fresh doesn't it?

Yeah.
Now all we need is the skin but James said it'll come soon, I think this week.

Anyway I have a question :love:

I think we've all established Davina McCall is not returning.
So if Big Brother does return, and we find out in a few weeks, what other things would you be REALLY annoyed at if they didn't make a return?

Like things that would probably put you off watching?

I'm fine with Davina not coming back tbh, it just depends on who replaces her.

The things that would seriously ****** me off if they didn't come back would have to be:



Marcus Bentley
Daniel Eatock's Eye Designs
Launch Night Twists
Big Brother's Little Brother
Big Houses
Element 4



Marcus is a legend and is the voice of Big Brother, who doesn't want him back?
People say 'Davina is Big Bruva' no... no she's not.
Marcus Bentley is a bigger part of the show, does he get credit? No the only sign of support he ever got from the world was when he was offered a bloody Jaffa Cake by John James.


Eatock's Designs, I mean they simply are an iconic piece of art.
People know STRAIGHT AWAY when they see them 'Oh that's Big Brother'.
Our Logos are the best in the world, Look at Australia's horrible eye brow, or BBUSA's House logo or the other countries who simply have a circle that says 'Big Brother' in it.

The Eyes usually give of a theme or tell us abit about what the producers are going for, and don't say they don't because they do.
BB7 - Swirly House
BB9 - Shattered House
BB11 - Goodbye Theme

etc


Launch Night Twists are a big part too. Honestly if BB12 does happen whether it's this summer or next I don't want to walk away from the launch the same way I did in June 2010.
I was like :shocked: I couldn't believe how rubbish it was and how pathetic the 'twist' was.
We need an original twist to get the audience hooked from the start.


BBLB, Now alot of people blame Spin Off's as reason for BB Failing.
I don't I think it's healthy to have them, Big Mouth is a disgrace and fell apart when Jack Whitehall left, BBLB amused me, where would it go though? Fiver?


Big House, I simply want a house like Big Brother 6 and Big Brother 7 where the layout was literally, it's hard to describe.. it was all one big room with the Kitchen joined on to the main area and the Living Area being separate in the garden and I don't mean like BB10's ugly house I mean like BB6s.
And a BIG garden too with a pool would be good, Do you think they would return to the main house we've used since 2002 since it'll be there until 2013?


Finally, Element 4!
What an epic song alot like the eye, it's iconic too.
I'd probably be pissed off the most actually if they changed the theme tune, would you?

I mean picture yourself sitting there in June 2011 [or 2012] watching the launch with your Pringles or whatever and the new presenter introduces the show with a one liner and then these new graphics come on with some ******ing American Soap Opera Theme Song played over them!

It would make me vomit and put me off the show right away.
Big Brother UK has always been a really fun show and Element Four is a fun tune.
It MUST STAY, They can remix it abit if they wish but if they remove it and bin it I'll ******ing cut Desmond's bollocks off.



So yeah main two things that MUST STAY for me are the Eyes and The Theme.

Sorry if that's alot to read, I tend to write alot when I'm talking about Big Brother as some of you may remember from the past 2 Summers.

[Smithy]

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[Jordan.]

Marcus Bentley
Daniel Eatock's Eye Designs [NOT THEM ****TY EYES WE GOT LAST THOUGH]
Element 4 Theme

Are the main things that I want to stay the same. :worship:

[Patrick]

Marcus Bentley
Daniel Eatock's Eye Designs [NOT THEM ****TY EYES WE GOT LAST THOUGH]
Element 4 Theme

Are the main things that I want to stay the same. :worship:

:joker::joker:

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Because it isn't about Lady GaGa and because you simply cannot read.

[Smithy]

Because it isn't about Lady GaGa and because you simply cannot rea.

Yeah, because I post that in every thread that isn't about GaGa and that second part is idiotic :rolleyes:

I didn't read, because you write too ****ing much, as per

[Patrick]

Yeah, because I post that in every thread that isn't about GaGa and that second part is idiotic :rolleyes:

I didn't read, because you write too ****ing much, as per

It's a Big Brother Forum, If you are not a fan then please go here (http://www.ladygaga.com/forum/default.aspx) or here. (ttp://nobrain.dk)

Sorted.

[Jordan.]

Because it isn't about Lady GaGa and because you simply cannot read.

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[rosebay11]

Patrick, you just about summed everything up for me.
I do think the standard of material in BBLB and BBBM went down with each succeeding year. I liked it when they had more psychologists on.

There never was a good presenter on BBBM after Russell Brand left - or was was got rid of. Signs on it - look where he has gotten to now in his career - and the rest are just nobodies.

[Jordan.]

It's a Big Brother Forum, If you are not a fan then please go here (http://www.ladygaga.com/forum/default.aspx) or here. (ttp://nobrain.dk)

Sorted.

:joker::joker::joker:

Second link might have got rid of him for a while.

[Kerry]

Problem is most will be under contract for C4. Marcus for example :(

But yes, I'd like Marcus Bentley (won't happen)
The music (won't happen)
Friday night launches
Daily highlights and live feed 24/7
Tasks that go through the night

[Patrick]

Problem is most will be under contract for C4. Marcus for example :(

But yes, I'd like Marcus Bentley (won't happen)
The music (won't happen)
Friday night launches
Daily highlights and live feed 24/7
Tasks that go through the night

WHY NOT? :shocked: :bawling::bawling:

Surely the theme isn't under contract?
I mean it was released as a single by Paul Oakenfold back in 2000, I didn't think it had anything to do with C4.

Oh dear!

Oh I agree with the over night tasks btw :love:

[Kerry]

I'm not sure Patrick. I'd just assume it'd be tied in with some C4 contract. I'd love it to stay. It's what gets us all geared up :)

[Kerry]

Oh and an eye. They'd have to keep an eye and the cheeky adverts teasing us :D

[Jordan.]

Not having the same theme tune would just be the worst thing ever, its too iconic.

Knowing C5 it'll sound like some **** weakest link theme tune. :bored:

[InOne]

Seen as BB fked up so much with C4, I think we need to embrace change.

[Iceman]

I dont want all that back, one of the main reasons people didnt watch BB as much as they use to was because it was on so much on C4/E4 have the daily show yeah and BBLB every second day (Unless something major happens then have a late night episode after the highlight show)

[Daniel McIver]

Emma should present BB because she is loyal fan and is fun. She loves the show.
I Enjoy BBLB , its important for big brother to have a mini day-time show. I think they'd show it at 6pm after the soaps. I think George Lamb should carry on presenting it.
I Agree , i think marcus should return because he is the heart of big brother.
I dont really care , if big brothers big mouth returns because i dont think we really need it! If it did , I think they'd need a comedian to present it.
I dont mind about how big or small the house is but as long as its not as bad as BB10's , Im Happy!
The Music must stay the same.
Also the tasks must be as good as they were in BB11!

[Niall]

Yeah I agree with you Patrick, the essential things are the eye and element 4.

Other than that, they can change everything. The series needs a huge revamp. I think they should just start afresh. New house location, new presenters (even though I love Davina :() all that stuff. They should cut all the spin offs and just focus on the main show and pour money into that. Honestly no-one gives two sh!ts about BBLB (well I didn't anyway) and BBBM just failed when Russell left anyway. If this is gonna work, the changes need to be radical. People were bored with BB before. A reboot of the series might help change public perception of it.

[Kate!]

Excellent Thread.

Would like Emma to present, and Marcus voiceover, but please God no George Lamb ever ever again.

Really excited about the possibilty now, its good to see all the enthusiasm on the forum for it all. Would be so amazing if any of you were to become future housemates, I'm not the type to do it, but I can imagine some of your personalities in the house, even though I don't know you personally !!!!

[Jords]

Seen as BB fked up so much with C4, I think we need to embrace change.

Agree with this.

[Patrick]

If they do start fresh and you know completely and utterly revamp the format and stuff, would any of you lot still call it 'Big Brother 12' or 'BB12' if it seemed really different?

Or would you like think of it was 'BB1' or something like that?

I hope they don't change the show too much, like the main parts of the format that must be there are:


Nominations
Twists
Punishments
Always Being Watched
Tasks
Public Voting
Evictions


If any of those features leave the format then it's a bad move, but I'm all open for them to add some new ideas in or tweak it abit, for example: Changing the day of Evictions

[I would hate that to happen, Friday nights in Summer had always been Eviction Day]

[DigitalSid]

Problem is most will be under contract for C4. Marcus for example :(

But yes, I'd like Marcus Bentley (won't happen)
The music (won't happen)
Friday night launches
Daily highlights and live feed 24/7
Tasks that go through the night

Marcus is freelance, he can work for any broadcaster he likes;

The music can and if they have any sense will (assuming the show comes back) happen.

[joeysteele]

I just hope if Channel 5 do bring it on the screens again that possible vote to save rather than evict willbe the norm, also to make it that if a housemate threatens or asks to leave more than once,then on the 2nd time they are just shown the door.

Other than that its format was reasonable sound, the tasks could be more mind constituted but overall,its still a great idea.

I also agree someone like Emma would be good to present it,actually she was better anyway on BB11 than Davina was.
Eviction interviews could be handled better too, the last 2/3 years Davina let many off the hook a lot namely Lisa.

[DigitalSid]

If they do start fresh and you know completely and utterly revamp the format and stuff, would any of you lot still call it 'Big Brother 12' or 'BB12' if it seemed really different?

Or would you like think of it was 'BB1' or something like that?

I hope they don't change the show too much, like the main parts of the format that must be there are:


Nominations
Twists
Punishments
Always Being Watched
Tasks
Public Voting
Evictions


If any of those features leave the format then it's a bad move, but I'm all open for them to add some new ideas in or tweak it abit, for example: Changing the day of Evictions

[I would hate that to happen, Friday nights in Summer had always been Eviction Day]

12.

[Patrick]

I just hope if Channel 5 do bring it on the screens again that possible vote to save rather than evict willbe the norm, also to make it that if a housemate threatens or asks to leave more than once,then on the 2nd time they are just shown the door.




This has got to come into action yeah.
The best part is [if this is true] PEJ won't be involved, Phil Edgar Jones.

That's the bastard that was responsible for robbing us of our rightful amazing finale in Summer by getting rid of 3 of the biggest characters in BB11 all in one night.

So Desmond may be open to vote to save actually.

Look at I'm A Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here, CONSTANTLY provides amazing entertainment right to the very end.
Why?
Because they do a vote to save and the dullards who aren't doing anything are always voted off and in the end we're left with entertainers.

That's how a Reality Show should work.

Marcus is freelance, he can work for any broadcaster he likes;

The music can and if they have any sense will (assuming the show comes back) happen.

Brilliant News :love:

[Kate!]

Agree 100 percent (or a million percent as Simon Cowell likes to say....roll eyes) for vote to save, its the best option imo. We need 24/7 live feed as well, I would love that.

[Niall]

This has got to come into action yeah.
The best part is [if this is true] PEJ won't be involved, Phil Edgar Jones.

That's the bastard that was responsible for robbing us of our rightful amazing finale in Summer by getting rid of 3 of the biggest characters in BB11 all in one night.

So Desmond may be open to vote to save actually.

Look at I'm A Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here, CONSTANTLY provides amazing entertainment right to the very end.
Why?
Because they do a vote to save and the dullards who aren't doing anything are always voted off and in the end we're left with entertainers.

That's how a Reality Show should work.



Brilliant News :love:

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[Patrick]

Yeah I wonder if C5 would actually do Live Feed for us though? I mean I was perfectly happy with LF being online last year.

We could print screen funny moments and stuff but the thing is if they do it online again I doubt they'll be as friendly to give the 1000 free passes away and I doubt I'd be as lucky to win one again.

So I guess the Red Button would be better, do Five even have a Red Button or would they ever do that?

See it's quite hard to guess these things because we don't actually know what Richard Desmond is like.
I mean is he generous towards things like Live Feed or is he a bint?

With Phil Edgar Jones and the C4 Crew we knew they are all bastards who wanted to kill the show.

[Niall]

Yeah I wonder if C5 would actually do Live Feed for us though? I mean I was perfectly happy with LF being online last year.

We could print screen funny moments and stuff but the thing is if they do it online again I doubt they'll be as friendly to give the 1000 free passes away and I doubt I'd be as lucky to win one again.

So I guess the Red Button would be better, do Five even have a Red Button or would they ever do that?

See it's quite hard to guess these things because we don't actually know what Richard Desmond is like.
I mean is he generous towards things like Live Feed or is he a bint?

With Phil Edgar Jones and the C4 Crew we knew they are all bastards who wanted to kill the show.

Tbh I never watched live feed, I generally found it quite boring but if they did the free pass thing again I would try and get one to see the funny moments. I remember that cause people used to be like this last year "OMGZ YOU GUYS. THE SH!TS GOING DOWN. LF NOWWWWWWW!!". And I used to be like, "K well I'll just sit here and watch you react to whatever happened -_-".

I know what you mean too, if it does come back, we know screw all about what the new production team is gonna be like. It'll be interesting to see a fresh bunch of people take over the show though. :)

[Kate!]

Yeah I wonder if C5 would actually do Live Feed for us though? I mean I was perfectly happy with LF being online last year.

We could print screen funny moments and stuff but the thing is if they do it online again I doubt they'll be as friendly to give the 1000 free passes away and I doubt I'd be as lucky to win one again.

So I guess the Red Button would be better, do Five even have a Red Button or would they ever do that?

See it's quite hard to guess these things because we don't actually know what Richard Desmond is like.
I mean is he generous towards things like Live Feed or is he a bint?

With Phil Edgar Jones and the C4 Crew we knew they are all bastards who wanted to kill the show.

We can only hope, and see what transpires, hopefully he has seen the potential of a revamp and will invest a lot in it so it will pay off and make a bundle for him, then he will invest more and so on. Could be the best or worst thing to happen to the show, lets hope for the former. PEJ should be shot imo.

[_Seth]

When it comes to the theme, that's one of the few things I'd be fine if they changed. If it does, it should be something party-ish like Australian BB, Idol and Dancing on Ice.

[Patrick]

When it comes to the theme, that's one of the few things I'd be fine if they changed. If it does, it should be something party-ish like Australian BB, Idol and Dancing on Ice.

Partyish?

Element 4 was on a Club Land CD along with 3 other Party Albums back in 2000 and 2001.

On YouTube on the comments people comment things like 'This is the only part of the song I actually like, love it!' and 'RAVE!!' and 'TUNE BRUV!' etc


How is Element 4 not Partyish?

I mean listen to this:

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And then this:

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[Patrick]

Tbh I never watched live feed, I generally found it quite boring but if they did the free pass thing again I would try and get one to see the funny moments. I remember that cause people used to be like this last year "OMGZ YOU GUYS. THE SH!TS GOING DOWN. LF NOWWWWWWW!!". And I used to be like, "K well I'll just sit here and watch you react to whatever happened -_-".

I know what you mean too, if it does come back, we know screw all about what the new production team is gonna be like. It'll be interesting to see a fresh bunch of people take over the show though. :)

That literally made me choke on a Kit Kat :joker::joker::joker::joker:

[LemonJam]

If I'm 100% honest, I want a completely fresh series if it's ever to come back.

[_Seth]

Partyish?

Element 4 was on a Club Land CD along with 3 other Party Albums back in 2000 and 2001.

On YouTube on the comments people comment things like 'This is the only part of the song I actually like, love it!' and 'RAVE!!' and 'TUNE BRUV!' etc


How is Element 4 not Partyish?

I mean listen to this:

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And then this:

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Well something in the style of DoI, BBAus and Idol.

[Beastie]

Keep Element 4 but spice up the tune a bit. Add an extra tune to the song or something.

[Patrick]

Keep Element 4 but spice up the tune a bit. Add an extra tune to the song or something.

This.

I'd actually rather them remix Element 4 than keep it the same.

They need to remix the actual song Element 4 and release it again :love:

Title it 'Element 4 | 2011' or something.

Make the opening itself about 40 seconds long.
Add some epic drums in the background, have to different intros for the show on eviction nights.

Daily Show: Element 4 Remixed As Normal

Eviction Show: Build Up The Theme Tune Abit With Some Claps or Drums and then fade into the New Element 4.

BB AUS had like 2 Different Openings for their Evictions and HLs.

[_Seth]

I love it when they add crowd noise and you can hear them clapping and cheering.

That could be added for eviction shows, over something like these for the daily shows:

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[Patrick]

Oh I see what you mean now Phillip like a theme tune that's so catchy that it gets everyone ready and moving?

Yeah.

Element 4 does that but I can see the difference those have like a repeated rythem to them and stuff that's so cool.

Fair dos.
I think they should remix Element 4 to be like that

That part on Ant and Dec's theme tune where it goes 'SATTTTTTURRRRRRRRDAAAAY!' and then it goes quiet and the tune keeps going on, that could be like where the presenter would enter and be like 'Welcome to Big Brother and tonight we've got a cracking eviction it's Britney VS Shauna VS Jake! Who do we want to stay guys? *Audience cheers like Chavs* To vote for who you want to SAVE call...'

And the theme keeps replaying :love:

Oh love it.

[Patrick]

Also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O8LhDDLsrI&feature=related

See how the DOI Theme gets remixed a tiny bit every year? They should do that with every series.

So we can be like 'Oh I liked The Series 13 Theme The Best, This one is too chavy' and stuff lol.

[Stu]

They should use the version of the title theme used for the first four seasons. It sounds much more big time to me these days. It's much louder and punchier.

I have to admit ... I hate change when it comes to Big Brother. It's all about the housemates to me. Just get the perfect housemates and a nice, consistent, mid noughties style series and I'm happy. Be good old trashy Channel 5 and just pump them full of booze and cut nothing out.

[_Seth]

^I loved the sounds from the first 4 UKBBs. I wonder why they made it a little different...Oh I see what you mean now Phillip like a theme tune that's so catchy that it gets everyone ready and moving?

Yeah.

Element 4 does that but I can see the difference those have like a repeated rythem to them and stuff that's so cool.

Fair dos.
I think they should remix Element 4 to be like that

That part on Ant and Dec's theme tune where it goes 'SATTTTTTURRRRRRRRDAAAAY!' and then it goes quiet and the tune keeps going on, that could be like where the presenter would enter and be like 'Welcome to Big Brother and tonight we've got a cracking eviction it's Britney VS Shauna VS Jake! Who do we want to stay guys? *Audience cheers like Chavs* To vote for who you want to SAVE call...'

And the theme keeps replaying :love:

Oh love it.
I spell my name with one "L". :mad: And yeah, when it comes to the Saturday Night theme, I love how it starts playing again.
Also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O8LhDDLsrI&feature=related

See how the DOI Theme gets remixed a tiny bit every year? They should do that with every series.

So we can be like 'Oh I liked The Series 13 Theme The Best, This one is too chavy' and stuff lol.

No. It should be perfect and stay that way. It doesn't make sense to make it less good for the sake of a change.

[Patrick]

They should use the version of the title theme used for the first four seasons. It sounds much more big time to me these days. It's much louder and punchier.


I'm going to go and listen to an old theme now and see if it sounds better actually.

I have to admit ... I hate change when it comes to Big Brother. It's all about the housemates to me. Just get the perfect housemates and a nice, consistent, mid noughties style series and I'm happy. Be good old trashy Channel 5 and just pump them full of booze and cut nothing out.

Here Here!

[_Seth]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8neUeNAQEGI&feature=related

The opening titles and entrance. So upbeat. That's what I love about Aus BB.

[Patrick]

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Hmm...
It sounds abit irritating actually.

Very 'basic' but then it's being compared to the other one which sounds abit different.

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The new one sounds more like an event or something like that.

[_Seth]

^The earlier titles sounded sci-fi and creepy. I really like the ending sound in the earlier titles compared to the newer.

[Stu]

The aesthetic is the most important thing, IMO. That cannot afford to be changed. BBUK is a bit ... well ... creepy. The theme, advertising, graphics and house designs are usually consistently surreal and trippy. When it first came out at the break of the new millenium it was almost marketed as this strange, CCTV based futuristic telly. Some bizarre post modern entertainment carnival.

Knowing 5 though that will all change. A series format carrying across channels is one thing. Production design is another. 5 might have other ideas in store.

[Patrick]

I get what you mean, Especially with the adverts they tend to make them scary and creepy and leave you wondering what's going to happen to the housemates [nothing ever does but you know].

I think at the start, and the show kind of lost this towards the end, it was all about 'Big Brother is watching' and now it isn't.

I mean these adverts:

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Give off a very different impression than this:

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But yeah I mean with Channel 5 from what I've heard, will probably turn it into some kind of Jersey Shore show.
Not that that is a bad thing, because it'll probably be more entertaining.

People tend to like watching a bunch of people get drunk, fight and have sex now than watch a 'Social Experiment' where it's all very strict.

I like both.

But yeah Channel 5 will really change the general vibe of the show.

[Patrick]

I still hope we get Eye Flashes and Trailers too though [if Desmond takes it on].

It wouldn't be May without coming home and coming on TiBB with the 'PLEASE SAY THERE'S A NEW TRAILER' thought in your head.

Or forcing yourself to watch Hollyoaks or The Simpsons for May only just to see any Exclusive Eye Flashes that haven't appeared on YouTube yet.

It's brilliant.

[reece(:]

I would like there to be more game to it but furthermore, no strict rules from pussy producers so they can just get to know each other properly, have dramas/arguments and stuff:D

+ yes definately vote to save to vote any deadwood out early on