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Suze
08-02-2011, 05:01 PM
I was recalling today some of the more impactive moments of BB, and one in particular was the Machiavellian test in BB7, along with a few other tests, when the housemates had to guess the order of the housemates in each test, a bit like the tests in BB11 I suppose when the remaining housemates showed what they thought of Mario in particular. Anyway I remember Aisleyne getting upset at BB for that test. Didn't understand why as it wasn't neccesarily a bad trait but an expected one really of many a BB housemate.

Anyway who would some of you consider from BB11 and earlier BBs to possess that particular trait of Machiavellianism, more than their fellow housemates.
Niamh.
08-02-2011, 05:04 PM
Bea BB10 for definite
Suze
08-02-2011, 05:06 PM
Bea BB10 for definite

I don't know Bea, as I never saw that BB at all, but have seen loads of mention of her in BB threads on forums.
Vodka Drinka
08-02-2011, 05:08 PM
Oh yes, Bea for definite. She was so cold and calculating it was unreal, a really nasty bitch.

Makosi is another obvious one. Also Noirin had a real knack for wrapping the men in the house around her finger and getting them to do what she wanted, I suppose it helped that she was so stunningly beautiful though.
Niamh.
08-02-2011, 05:10 PM
I don't know Bea, as I never saw that BB at all, but have seen loads of mention of her in BB threads on forums.

Oh she was the queen of duplicity, funnily enough, she used to accuse people of being duplicitous all the time but infact it was her!

from other BBs em Makosi maybe? more so from BB6 rather than Ultimate BB though
Niamh.
08-02-2011, 05:12 PM
Oh yes, Bea for definite. She was so cold and calculating it was unreal, a really nasty bitch.

Makosi is another obvious one. Also Noirin had a real knack for wrapping the men in the house around her finger and getting them to do what she wanted, I suppose it helped that she was so stunningly beautiful though.

Maybe a bit with Noirin though I do think that people made her out to be worse than she actually was.
Suze
08-02-2011, 05:15 PM
What about Charley BB8?
Niamh.
08-02-2011, 05:17 PM
What about Charley BB8?

hhmmm well she was just loud and argumentative, she wasn't really cunning or duplicitous
Chuck
08-02-2011, 05:30 PM
Bea and Makosi.
Vodka Drinka
08-02-2011, 08:41 PM
What about Charley BB8?

No Charley was just loud, obnoxious and irritating. Carole on the other hand....
Shaun
08-02-2011, 08:49 PM
That I can remember

Vanessa, Michelle BB5
Orlaith, Makosi and Derek in BB6
Richard and Grace in BB7
Carole BB8
Rex, Darnell, Sylvia BB9
Noirin, Freddie BB10
Caoimhe, Mario, John James BB11
Vodka Drinka
08-02-2011, 10:23 PM
Freddie manipulative?! Come on! He didn't have a manipulative bone in his body. If anything he was far too naive and trusting!

I'm surprised there's been no mention of Dave yet, as I feel he was the most manipulative of BB11. He seemed to hoodwink all of them bar Shabby and Keeva, very sinister man indeed. Also surprised no one has mentioned Katreya, who made sure everyone of her "fwends" lasted to the end, and used to go around telling the other housemates that someone had "broken her heart" when she wanted them to nominate that person. She got away with it as well!
Marsh.
08-02-2011, 10:34 PM
Charley??? Haha. If she knew what the word meant.

Bea, Carole, Makosi and Derek I agree with.
Niamh.
09-02-2011, 10:29 AM
That I can remember

Vanessa, Michelle BB5
Orlaith, Makosi and Derek in BB6
Richard and Grace in BB7
Carole BB8
Rex, Darnell, Sylvia BB9
Noirin, Freddie BB10
Caoimhe, Mario, John James BB11

and no Bea?:conf: I didn't really like Freddie but I don't agree that he was Machiavellian, Noirin maybe a bit but I think she was made out to be worse than she was.
Beastie
09-02-2011, 10:55 AM
Definately Katreya from bb9. Acting like the innocent "cookie love" character when she knew what she was doing all along ;) Unfortunately the act didn't last and she crumbled at the last hurdle. She made great entertainment though. Her eviction was one of the best ever :love:
Beastie
09-02-2011, 10:56 AM
Oh.. Siavash from bb10 seemed quite manipulative as well.
Beastie
09-02-2011, 10:57 AM
Oh my god.. not forgetting.. NASTY NICK BATEMAN! :love:
Beastie
09-02-2011, 10:58 AM
Ziggy from bb8 was a bit manipulative too!
Beastie
09-02-2011, 11:04 AM
To be honest I think Glyn from bb7 was a bit manipulative.

Possibly even Pete from bb7 but it was easy for him to hide behind the "wankers".
Niamh.
09-02-2011, 11:09 AM
Ziggy from bb8 was a bit manipulative too!

Yeah, I agree with Ziggy
honeydew
09-02-2011, 08:47 PM
Yeah, I agree with Ziggy

Niamh is that a picture of you under your user name, umm if it is you are hot baby...:dance::dance:MODs..

Vinnie Jones was awful...

Also Katreya WTF was the cookie and happy house was about I mean arggg
Her voice was awful, also the woman that got the golden ticket entry I can't remember her name.


But Carole was the worst....telling everyone to clean..BB8..:devil::devil:I mean can you imagine her next to you.....ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh:devil::devil::d evil::devil:
Niamh.
09-02-2011, 08:55 PM
Niamh is that a picture of you under your user name, umm if it is you are hot baby...:dance::dance:MODs..

Vinnie Jones was awful...

Also Katreya WTF was the cookie and happy house was about I mean arggg
Her voice was awful, also the woman that got the golden ticket entry I can't remember her name.


But Carole was the worst....telling everyone to clean..BB8..:devil::devil:I mean can you imagine her next to you.....ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh:devil::devil::d evil::devil:

lmao, No!! I'm female and that's Gerard Butler in my avatar:love:
honeydew
09-02-2011, 09:02 PM
lmao, No!! I'm female and that's Gerard Butler in my avatar:love:

UMMM Gerard Butler looks divine......

Hope you are doing well Niamh..:blush::blush:
Niamh.
09-02-2011, 09:05 PM
UMMM Gerard Butler looks divine......

Hope you are doing well Niamh..:blush::blush:

he is divine, my ideal man (besides my hubby of course:wink:)

and I'm good thanks, you?:hugesmile:
Marsh.
09-02-2011, 11:46 PM
Niamh is that a picture of you under your user name, umm if it is you are hot baby...:dance::dance:MODs..

:rolleyes: :laugh2:
honeydew
09-02-2011, 11:48 PM
:rolleyes: :laugh2:

HHA hAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa:joker::joker::joker::joker:
lauraC
12-02-2011, 12:31 PM
I was recalling today some of the more impactive moments of BB, and one in particular was the Machiavellian test in BB7, along with a few other tests, when the housemates had to guess the order of the housemates in each test, a bit like the tests in BB11 I suppose when the remaining housemates showed what they thought of Mario in particular. Anyway I remember Aisleyne getting upset at BB for that test. Didn't understand why as it wasn't neccesarily a bad trait but an expected one really of many a BB housemate.

Anyway who would some of you consider from BB11 and earlier BBs to possess that particular trait of Machiavellianism, more than their fellow housemates.

Big brother set Aisleyne up with the Machiavellian test it was designed to make people suspicious of her and it worked, they also set mario up with his introduction into the house no one would trust him while in there because they believed he was still a mole all the way though the series and didnt want to appear stupid to the public by not getting it so dave and John James (who suffers from massive paranoia) in particular never trusted him because they wanted to save face and not look stupid i think ben was over thinking things too and a lot of his bitchy gossip was probably due to his thinking he was taken for a fool.
Pyramid*
12-02-2011, 02:06 PM
I think certainly in the last few series of BB, a good 50% (if not more) of the housemates showed Machiavellian traits. The nature of the game partly demands it in a lot of ways - by way of trying to avoid being nominated, I think in trying to avoid the nominations, behaviours will be adjusted (manipulated) to suit, I think it brings about a degree of Machiavellianism just by the very nature of the show.
Vodka Drinka
12-02-2011, 03:45 PM
Big brother set Aisleyne up with the Machiavellian test it was designed to make people suspicious of her and it worked, they also set mario up with his introduction into the house no one would trust him while in there because they believed he was still a mole all the way though the series and didnt want to appear stupid to the public by not getting it so dave and John James (who suffers from massive paranoia) in particular never trusted him because they wanted to save face and not look stupid i think ben was over thinking things too and a lot of his bitchy gossip was probably due to his thinking he was taken for a fool.

You just couldn't resist could you? ;)
Ultra Violet
12-02-2011, 10:56 PM
You just couldn't resist could you? ;)

:xyxwave: So funny ... so transparent ... so predictable ... almost gives one something to look forward to in life ... like the sun rising in the morning ... or the tide coming in ... renews ones faith in the utter reliability of the world ... stability and permanence can be wonderful things ... it is always good to know where one stands ...

Doncha just hate surprises ... ?
Vodka Drinka
13-02-2011, 08:13 PM
:xyxwave: So funny ... so transparent ... so predictable ... almost gives one something to look forward to in life ... like the sun rising in the morning ... or the tide coming in ... renews ones faith in the utter reliability of the world ... stability and permanence can be wonderful things ... it is always good to know where one stands ...

Doncha just hate surprises ... ?

:joker::joker::joker::joker:
Captain.Remy
13-02-2011, 08:23 PM
Freddie: crying little bitch who played the pity card to get this far but got screwed in its own game. Bullying? wtf? let's get real, he was a manipulative wanker.

Bea: Wow, that one was nasty, a true bad girl. I wish she stayed longer, she made the second half of the show along with Siavash and Marcus. Should have been top 5 for being so entertaining and for shutting the hell up of Freddie.

Makosi: She's drama, yo. The Queen of all bitches and game players. She's a goddess. Should have won series 6.

Noirin: Being a slut or what? Bitch got trapped and got her ass sent home.

Brian Belo: Still mad at him for stealing the twins' victory. I still can't believe he actually used the "I'm so dumb" card to win. Shame on you loser.

Rex: but in a good way. Should have won series 9 along with Rebecca and Sara.
Angus
13-02-2011, 08:51 PM
What about Jen from BB9? - she was such a manipulative, attention seeking drama queen. And Nicole, the Queen Bitch.
BigBrotherfan4ever
13-02-2011, 09:00 PM
What about Jen from BB9? - she was such a manipulative, attention seeking drama queen. And Nicole, the Queen Bitch.

totally agree with you
BB_Eye
13-02-2011, 09:01 PM
BB2 - Stuart
BB3 - Jonny, Jade, Adele
BB5 - Victor, Jason, Ahmed, Michelle, Marco
BB6 - Derek, Craig, Maxwell, Kemal, Kinga, Anthony, Makosi
BB7 - Grace, Sezer, Richard, Nikki
BB8 - Ziggy, Carole, Gerry, Billy (crap at it though), Charley, Seany
BB9 - Sylvia, Dale, Jennifer, Dennis, Rex, Darnell, Kat, Luke, Mario
BB10 - Lisa, Kenneth, Charlie, Bea, Noirin
BB11 - John James, Josie, Sam, Dave, Shabby
Vodka Drinka
13-02-2011, 09:17 PM
What about Jen from BB9? - she was such a manipulative, attention seeking drama queen. And Nicole, the Queen Bitch.

Oh god Jen was a hateful cow wasn't she? I'd totally forgotten about her, but I loathed her at the time. Awful, self absorbed, childish spoiled daddy's princess. Her "tantrum" when Rex smudged her painting was one of the most pathetic things I ever saw on Big Brother. Total over reaction which led to the second fight night. And she even had the cheek to blame Mo for getting Dennis kicked out, even though it was Dennis who spat in Mo's face! Everything had to be about her, she was obviously used to be the centre of attention. A real "me, me, me" type.

Stupid bitch!