View Full Version : Face it, Girls Aloud are over.
Aren't they? As a working girl group. There won't be a new album or new singles. They are at the same point the Spice Girls are and any new Girls Aloud activity will be a reunion for the 10th aniversary next year.
But really, lets face it, Cheryl has moved on to bigger and better - her music is Girls Aloud Part II and the Nadine has flopped.
Girls Aloud - so '00s ...
'Conor
05-03-2011, 04:20 PM
yeah it would kinda be stupid if they reformed, there not really missed either :/ as much as i dislike cheryl cole she is better off solo!
Mystic Mock
05-03-2011, 04:21 PM
its ashame that cheryl cole cant **** off now.:devil:
She's re-releasing her alb with the Black Eyed Peas adding a new track.
I think she'll be bigger than Kylie in the US.
Shaun
05-03-2011, 04:24 PM
depends how Cheryl does over there I guess. I imagine the other 4 will be pushing for a new album.
The ultimate would be a Spice Girls Vs. Girls Aloud TV big special produced by Sir Simon Cowell.
GiRTh
05-03-2011, 04:45 PM
The ultimate would be a Spice Girls Vs. Girls Aloud TV big special produced by Sir Simon Cowell.And I suppose that would be broadcast directly from Hell.
Mystic Mock
05-03-2011, 04:47 PM
She's re-releasing her alb with the Black Eyed Peas adding a new track.
I think she'll be bigger than Kylie in the US.
the americans like talent,so cheryl cole will fail.
Zippy
05-03-2011, 04:50 PM
the americans like talent,so cheryl cole will fail.
you do realise that every comment you make like this is totally invalidated by your username?
Mystic Mock
05-03-2011, 04:53 PM
you do realise that every comment you make like this is totally invalidated by your username?
did i say jedward would be big in america?
Zippy
05-03-2011, 04:55 PM
did i say jedward would be big in america?
you probably have at some point...
but I was referring more to your idea of what talent is
Mystic Mock
05-03-2011, 04:56 PM
you probably have at some point...
but I was referring more to your idea of what talent is
i have never said that jedward will be big in america.
It's weird, I really don't like the idea of them not reforming because I consider them to be one of the best things about 00s British pop, but then I don't actually.. like any of their songs? I mean, I don't dislike them per se, just none of their songs really appeal to me. I blame Nadine though, I mean it says a lot that the other four appeared together for the Pride of Britain awards but she wasn't there - say what you like about Cheryl but she's not the one blocking a reunion...
Personally I'm still rooting for an original Sugababes reunion to spark a chart battle with the current line up, that's far more entertaining than Girls Aloud working with Xenomania for the millionth time.
Zippy
05-03-2011, 05:10 PM
i have never said that jedward will be big in america.
good. and you are correct. :pat:
Smithy
05-03-2011, 05:14 PM
I can see them reforming next year, Cheryl isn't going to be big in America and her last album was absolutely diabolical
I can see them reforming next year, Cheryl isn't going to be big in America and her last album was absolutely diabolical
If she becomes famous in America it won't be for singing, that's for sure.
Smithy
05-03-2011, 05:26 PM
:joker:
Zippy
05-03-2011, 05:33 PM
If she becomes famous in America it won't be for singing, that's for sure.
well she's no worse than Miley, Taylor, Britney, Katy, Ke$ha etc
vocally
well she's no worse than Miley, Taylor, Britney, Katy, Ke$ha etc
vocally
I actually enjoy her singing voice, it's got a distinctive sound, she's just a really weak singer with nothing new to offer an American market that's oversaturated with female popstars. They have their Britneys, Katys and Mileys, just like we have our Cheryls and Pixies etc. She's just not going to get a look in; if she was going to 'crack America' she'd have to do it at a time when male artists have been dominating the charts and females are starting to release again - jump on the bandwagon as it starts, as it were.
Zippy
05-03-2011, 06:33 PM
I actually enjoy her singing voice, it's got a distinctive sound, she's just a really weak singer with nothing new to offer an American market that's oversaturated with female popstars. They have their Britneys, Katys and Mileys, just like we have our Cheryls and Pixies etc. She's just not going to get a look in; if she was going to 'crack America' she'd have to do it at a time when male artists have been dominating the charts and females are starting to release again - jump on the bandwagon as it starts, as it were.
I think she needs a big gateway like US XF for sure.
if she gets that gig I think music success is very possible on the back of it. Fight for this love was a global smash so she does have selling power as an unknown solo artist. She wasn't famous in those countries beforehand.
Girls Aloud are my ultimate guilty pleasure but I think its best they were just left in the past now. there isn't really anywhere else for them to go or any more ground to cover. They've all had success away from the group (ironically except Nadine) and Cheryl is too big for Girls Aloud now and was the driving force by the end even though they started to fail a bit. A reunion wouldn't be right imo.
fizzybee
05-03-2011, 08:28 PM
Spice Girls > Girls Aloud
I think she needs a big gateway like US XF for sure.
if she gets that gig I think music success is very possible on the back of it. Fight for this love was a global smash so she does have selling power as an unknown solo artist. She wasn't famous in those countries beforehand.
I'd say a large portion of her popularity from the X Factor comes from her sense of humour at the bootcamp stages, she's got a very British sense of fun/humour and I really don't think it would transfer across very well to America, I'd be surprised if she got the job but Simon does seem to love her so anything can happen...
I think she needs a big gateway like US XF for sure.
if she gets that gig I think music success is very possible on the back of it. Fight for this love was a global smash so she does have selling power as an unknown solo artist. She wasn't famous in those countries beforehand.
with that you're assuming that X Factor is going to be a hit in America. It didn't set Australia alight, and X Factor USA will be the third show of its type to air within the year. American Idol is currently on air and 'The Voice' starts next month which uses the mentor idea, but it has a gimmicky format whereas X Factor is more or less the same as American Idol. They've also managed to sign up Cee Lo Green, Christina Aguilera and Adam Levine (Maroon 5) who are much bigger names than those rumoured for X Factor. Nicole Scherzinger and Cheryl Cole aren't big in the US, it would almost be like Dannii Minogue's arrival on our series- zero impact.
I know I've veered off a little bit, but my point is even if Cheryl does join the USA panel, there is no guarantees that the show will be a success in the first place. X Factor UK is the British equivalent (in terms of audience) of The Superbowl and there is no way X Factor USA will reach those heights regardless of success, so if Cheryl tries to launch a career off the back of it, that might not work either.
If they were to reform wouldn't it be 'Cheryl and her backing band' though. Then there's Nadine the failed solo member. It's just too uncomfortable now, when before they were all pretty even.
Very different to the solo Spices who all have had number ones in their own right - except Posh who's now this fashionista.
Zippy
05-03-2011, 08:52 PM
I know I've veered off a little bit, but my point is even if Cheryl does join the USA panel, there is no guarantees that the show will be a success in the first place.
I know. But I said its very possible. At least her music will actually get some attention and huge exposure. Fight for this love could be re-released there and thats a proven smash.
XF is different to other talent shows as it has different categories. It will get a huge initial audience just out of curiosity. But maybe there is just too many of these shows on us tv now. Especially with another one coming...The voice(with Aguilera).
BB_Eye
05-03-2011, 08:58 PM
I think the Spice Girls were a shorter, but sweeter success overall. They couldn't sing for toffee, but had so much more personality than Girls Aloud (who are not exactly singing virtuosos themselves) and catchier songs.
Well I think American Idol's dying a slow death seeing as Paula Abdul and Simon Cowell have both left it (I think?! I honestly haven't watched it since its 2nd series, save for seeing an episode on TV not that long ago and not recognising the judging panel) so a new program with Simon Cowell attached to it is going to generate a lot of interest seeing as he was the main draw of American Idol. I don't think the X Factor will set the USA alight with interest though, I think the era of reality TV music stars is going to disappear for a while in the future.
Jords
05-03-2011, 09:01 PM
They should try without Cheryl, probably wont sell as much but could still have a succesful album.
Well I think American Idol's dying a slow death seeing as Paula Abdul and Simon Cowell have both left it (I think?! I honestly haven't watched it since its 2nd series, save for seeing an episode on TV not that long ago and not recognising the judging panel) so a new program with Simon Cowell attached to it is going to generate a lot of interest seeing as he was the main draw of American Idol. I don't think the X Factor will set the USA alight with interest though, I think the era of reality TV music stars is going to disappear for a while in the future.
American Idol is more popular this year in America than it was last year. Simon is popular in America but he doesn't have the same presence over there as he does here, but he's good at fooling us into believing he does.
Americans have a very different media market to ours.
They should try without Cheryl, probably wont sell as much but could still have a succesful album.
I think that would just flop; IMO they couldn't work as anything but a five piece with all of the same members; they were formed that way by the public on a reality TV show, anything different to that formula and they'd lose a lot of support regardless of the reasons behind it. I think it's Nadine who's preventing a reunion from happening, going by the media.
Zippy
05-03-2011, 09:11 PM
American Idol is more popular this year in America than it was last year. Simon is popular in America but he doesn't have the same presence over there as he does here, but he's good at fooling us into believing he does.
Americans have a very different media market to ours.
the ratings have declined from last year. But they were progressively declining year on year so its hard to say how much the new judges have impacted. Theyre certainly popular with the fans.
a 7% decline from last year is bad but its not as bad as expected. Could get worse though.
GiRTh
05-03-2011, 09:15 PM
American Idol is more popular this year in America than it was last year. Simon is popular in America but he doesn't have the same presence over there as he does here, but he's good at fooling us into believing he does.
Americans have a very different media market to ours.True. If he'd given the Americans last year XF, shot for shot, frame for frame, episode for episode the same, he'd have never have got away with it. He'd have lost a huge amount of credibility.
As for GA, they're the last remaining band from the global Popstars franchise so its about time they were put out to pasture,
Jords
05-03-2011, 09:24 PM
I think that would just flop; IMO they couldn't work as anything but a five piece with all of the same members; they were formed that way by the public on a reality TV show, anything different to that formula and they'd lose a lot of support regardless of the reasons behind it. I think it's Nadine who's preventing a reunion from happening, going by the media.
If the music is good it will sell either way. Nicola and Kimberly's popularity has risen quite a bit and the focus was no longer just on Cheryl anyway. And if its Nadine, she flopped hard as a solo so maybe losing her wouldnt affect the group all that much, perhaps and introduction to a new member but they have to be careful they dont do a Sugababes.
Admittingly Id like GA back as the original 5-piece, but if thats not gonna happen the remaining girls should get a stab at it - might ruin their rep or it could relight their flame. Nobody's know until they actually go ahead with it.
Zippy
05-03-2011, 09:33 PM
I don't like the idea of GA without Cheryl. Be like theyve lost their main star. Vocally they'd be fine but they wouldnt get the same media attention.
GiRTh
05-03-2011, 09:48 PM
I don't like the idea of GA without Cheryl. Be like theyve lost their main star. Vocally they'd be fine but they wouldnt get the same media attention.
:joker:
Zippy
05-03-2011, 09:50 PM
:joker:
which bit is funny?
If the music is good it will sell either way. Nicola and Kimberly's popularity has risen quite a bit and the focus was no longer just on Cheryl anyway. And if its Nadine, she flopped hard as a solo so maybe losing her wouldnt affect the group all that much, perhaps and introduction to a new member but they have to be careful they dont do a Sugababes.
Admittingly Id like GA back as the original 5-piece, but if thats not gonna happen the remaining girls should get a stab at it - might ruin their rep or it could relight their flame. Nobody's know until they actually go ahead with it.
All Saints attempted a comeback with some good music and that didn't take off, plenty of girl groups have gone off the boil, attempted a comeback and it's ruined them - same will happen to Girls Aloud if they try anything other than the original five, and they'd need to do it very well to pull it off. I think they're dead :/
Jords
05-03-2011, 09:53 PM
I agree that its likely theyd flop though :/ Which is a shame.
GiRTh
05-03-2011, 09:54 PM
which bit is funny?
All of it.:spin:
InOne
06-03-2011, 09:20 AM
Just leave them where they are, a memory.
I think they might return to celebrate their 10 anniv. But not to return as a fully working band again - album after album.
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