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Omah
17-03-2011, 03:39 PM
http://www.unrealitytv.co.uk/big-brother/big-brother-josie-gibson-says-john-james-parton-is-really-old-fashioned/

The pair do have a lively relationship and Josie admitted that they do argue and row, however the best part of their fall outs is always the making up.

‘We only fall out so much so we can enjoy the making up,’ Josie told Fabulous.

‘I trust him completely now. I know he’d never cheat on me.’

Is it 'cos he's gay ?

:conf:

pices
17-03-2011, 04:29 PM
http://www.unrealitytv.co.uk/big-brother/big-brother-josie-gibson-says-john-james-parton-is-really-old-fashioned/



Is it 'cos he's gay ?

:conf:

Maybe its because their relationship is only a business deal therefore ''cheating'' on her is not really possible, I mean he did cheat on his ex because he told us so.Not only that but Josie has stated openly she would not be with anyone who was a cheat. Also recently on twitter said she checks his TXT messages, why??
I get a bit lost when it comes to what Josie says, there must be somethings she speaks the truth about...................I just dont know what.:blush:

Suze
17-03-2011, 04:55 PM
The pair do have a lively relationship and Josie admitted that they do argue and row, however the best part of their fall outs is always the making up.

‘We only fall out so much so we can enjoy the making up,’ Josie told Fabulous.

‘I trust him completely now. I know he’d never cheat on me.’

That bit makes no sense whatsoever :conf: If they had a true and loving relationship, there would be no need for constant rows just to make up afterwards. They would already be loved up. So that just reads to me like a pack of lies. But the pair of them always seemed/probably still are, economical with the truth when it suited/s anyway.

Zippy
17-03-2011, 05:46 PM
well his dress sense is stuck in the past if thats what she means...

Blonde Australian hunk? Isn't he dark haired, skinny and English these days?

Angus
18-03-2011, 07:07 AM
http://www.unrealitytv.co.uk/big-brother/big-brother-josie-gibson-says-john-james-parton-is-really-old-fashioned/



Is it 'cos he's gay ?

:conf:

More like he has told her he "respects" her and wants to "wait until we get married" as an excuse not to have to do the deed with her:joker:

Angus
18-03-2011, 06:56 PM
http://twitpic.com/4afjmr

If you were seeing these three for the first time, who would you say were the real couple?:joker: Body language speaks volumes doesn't it?

pices
18-03-2011, 07:28 PM
http://twitpic.com/4afjmr

If you were seeing these three for the first time, who would you say were the real couple?:joker: Body language speaks volumes doesn't it?

Yes it does, JJJJ are entwined and leaning towards each other (like lovebirds), Josie looks like an outsider, a fan maybe.Also saw another photo today of just JJJ, again John was leaning away from Josie.............its all subconcious but tells a different story from the hogwash they spout about being together.:blush:

Omah
18-03-2011, 08:51 PM
http://twitpic.com/4afjmr

If you were seeing these three for the first time, who would you say were the real couple?:joker: Body language speaks volumes doesn't it?

Yes it does, JJJJ are entwined and leaning towards each other (like lovebirds), Josie looks like an outsider, a fan maybe.Also saw another photo today of just JJJ, again John was leaning away from Josie.............its all subconcious but tells a different story from the hogwash they spout about being together.:blush:

yeah, Josie's well redundant when there's a good-looking boy around ..... :laugh2:

James
18-03-2011, 11:39 PM
http://twitpic.com/4afjmr

If you were seeing these three for the first time, who would you say were the real couple?:joker: Body language speaks volumes doesn't it?

That's just a photo. It is reading too much into very small things.

patsylimerick
19-03-2011, 07:55 AM
That's just a photo. It is reading too much into very small things.

Are these small things? Moving the best friend in permanently. Spending three weeks apart over Christmas and New Year (and moving the gay best friend in immediately). Travelling everywhere with your best friend while your 'girlfriend' travels separately. Telling your 'boyfriend' to have a good night's sleep with his real boyfriend on Twitter, calling him a cock and then deleting it all. Never taking your 'boyfriend' with you on nights out with your friends or when you visit your family. Having your gay best friend to tweet that you rotate your bedrooms :joker: when confusion arises about who sleeps where chez JJJJJ. Hovering like a criminal accomplice every time your 'boyfriend' has a microphone in front of his face with a petrified expression on your face; afraid, perhaps, that he'll say something he shouldn't. Agreeing to receive payment for a story that profits on abortion, which purposely hints that Johnny James was the one who forced her to have it, on a front cover that features the real heartbreak of Amanda Holden's miscarriage?

I'm really interested in your answer, because I'm utterly fascinated at this stage by how anyone could like these two cretins.

Angus
19-03-2011, 09:42 AM
Are these small things? Moving the best friend in permanently. Spending three weeks apart over Christmas and New Year (and moving the gay best friend in immediately). Travelling everywhere with your best friend while your 'girlfriend' travels separately. Telling your 'boyfriend' to have a good night's sleep with his real boyfriend on Twitter, calling him a cock and then deleting it all. Never taking your 'boyfriend' with you on nights out with your friends or when you visit your family. Having your gay best friend to tweet that you rotate your bedrooms :joker: when confusion arises about who sleeps where chez JJJJJ. Hovering like a criminal accomplice every time your 'boyfriend' has a microphone in front of his face with a petrified expression on your face; afraid, perhaps, that he'll say something he shouldn't. Agreeing to receive payment for a story that profits on abortion, which purposely hints that Johnny James was the one who forced her to have it, on a front cover that features the real heartbreak of Amanda Holden's miscarriage?

I'm really interested in your answer, because I'm utterly fascinated at this stage by how anyone could like these two cretins.

You and me both:confused:

Nothing will convince me that John James and Josie are romantically involved, even if they walked up the aisle tomorrow. I think they are both just exploiting their z list fame for as long as possible, and whilst Josie might harbour romantic feelings towards John James, I am convinced they are not reciprocated.

However, money talks, and whilst there's still interest in the gruesome twosome who can blame them for taking full advantage. John James is a complete and utter nobody back in Oz, that's the real reason he's still hanging around in the UK like a bad smell. I think he's thankful he can use JJ as an excuse to keep Josie at bay.

Pyramid*
19-03-2011, 10:33 AM
anyone who seriously thinks JJ and J are loved up needs their heads looked at.

How many times since coming out of the house, has anyone seen genuine, tender photos of them looking at each other straight in the eyes with a loved up look? How many times have they been snapped, being oblivious to anyone or anything around them, with that look of love for each other than shows them being wrapped in in each other, that nothing else in the world matters - with the outside world not existing - the way couples who really are in love simply cannot be avoided ? The amount of times they are in the public eye - I cannot recall even one picture that shows that chemistry....not one, and not even remotely.

Mostly it's one or other of them looking out of place, or uncomfortable, or false smiles, fake poses. In the interim, my opinion is that those gullible enough to swallow this act - will be lining this odious twosomes pockets whilst they (JJJ) laugh at how naive some people can be.

I still believe that JJ is gay and if so, that will eventually come out. Might take a while, but you can be sure it will.

Omah
19-03-2011, 11:21 AM
Are these small things? Moving the best friend in permanently. Spending three weeks apart over Christmas and New Year (and moving the gay best friend in immediately). Travelling everywhere with your best friend while your 'girlfriend' travels separately. Telling your 'boyfriend' to have a good night's sleep with his real boyfriend on Twitter, calling him a cock and then deleting it all. Never taking your 'boyfriend' with you on nights out with your friends or when you visit your family. Having your gay best friend to tweet that you rotate your bedrooms :joker: when confusion arises about who sleeps where chez JJJJJ. Hovering like a criminal accomplice every time your 'boyfriend' has a microphone in front of his face with a petrified expression on your face; afraid, perhaps, that he'll say something he shouldn't.


A fine romance ..... :laugh2:

Rob
19-03-2011, 12:03 PM
Seriously, who cares, these two are just fame hungry losers, they put BB to shame!

James
19-03-2011, 01:59 PM
Are these small things? Moving the best friend in permanently. Spending three weeks apart over Christmas and New Year (and moving the gay best friend in immediately). Travelling everywhere with your best friend while your 'girlfriend' travels separately. Telling your 'boyfriend' to have a good night's sleep with his real boyfriend on Twitter, calling him a cock and then deleting it all. Never taking your 'boyfriend' with you on nights out with your friends or when you visit your family. Having your gay best friend to tweet that you rotate your bedrooms :joker: when confusion arises about who sleeps where chez JJJJJ. Hovering like a criminal accomplice every time your 'boyfriend' has a microphone in front of his face with a petrified expression on your face; afraid, perhaps, that he'll say something he shouldn't.

Well, these are just scraps of information taken off their Twitter pages and Twitter is not another version of live feed. If something isn't reported on there it doesn't mean it didn't happen. People don't document their whole lives on there. It is a tiny fraction of that at most, and it is possible for anyone to weave carefully selected tweets into some sort of narrative that could 'prove' any agenda.

We don't really know what is going on in their, or any, ex-housemates' private lives. Nor any celebrity or public figure for that matter.

patsylimerick
19-03-2011, 03:00 PM
Well, these are just scraps of information taken off their Twitter pages and Twitter is not another version of live feed. If something isn't reported on there it doesn't mean it didn't happen. People don't document their whole lives on there. It is a tiny fraction of that at most, and it is possible for anyone to weave carefully selected tweets into some sort of narrative that could 'prove' any agenda.

We don't really know what is going on in their, or any, ex-housemates' private lives. Nor any celebrity or public figure for that matter.

It's also possible for people (josie) to weave apparently careful tweets into her sort of narrative...... Oi luvs myy johneeeeeeeeee jaymmmeees oi do.........
The problem is, he never responds - ever. He's too busy tweeting about how much fun he's having playing FIFA, playing dress up, going to football matches and learning how to be a DJ with his soul mate, JJ2. When they are seen in public - and I've taken an interest:hugesmile: he couldn't look more uncomfortable if he had a bad dose of the runs and no prospect of access to toilet paper. You see, the major flaw in your post is the supposition that I want to 'prove' (your inverted commas :xyxwave:) an agenda. I don't have an agenda; I'm just having fun posting on th'internet. But they have an agenda. Yes sirreeee. It's just so laughable and bumbling. Which is such good fun. :joker:

Angus
19-03-2011, 03:10 PM
Well, these are just scraps of information taken off their Twitter pages and Twitter is not another version of live feed. If something isn't reported on there it doesn't mean it didn't happen. People don't document their whole lives on there.

We don't really know what is going on in their, or any, ex-hIt is a tiny fraction of that at most, and it is possible for anyone to weave carefully selected tweets into some sort of narrative that could 'prove' any agenda.
ousemates' private lives. Nor any celebrity or public figure for that matter.

Precisely, and yet the Josie and John James supporters have no more authentic information or knowledge to go on than those that despise and detest them. Therefore it comes down to a matter of perception and individual opinion.

If a supporter is going to tell me that I don't know them because only a microcosm of their true selves and lives is revealed by their twitter and other media, and that I've got it all wrong, then I will use the same argument back at them since they don't have anything else to base their opinions on either.

Pyramid*
19-03-2011, 05:27 PM
Precisely, and yet the Josie and John James supporters have no more authentic information or knowledge to go on than those that despise and detest them. Therefore it comes down to a matter of perception and individual opinion.

If a supporter is going to tell me that I don't know them because only a microcosm of their true selves and lives is revealed by their twitter and other media, and that I've got it all wrong, then I will use the same argument back at them since they don't have anything else to base their opinions on either.


Quite.

body language accounts for much as far as communication goes. I don't need anyone to tell me they aren't in a passionate or romantic relationship - their body language screams that out, loud and clear.

When they decide to have a child - I might reconsider. I think I'll be waiting a very long time mind you....

Princess
19-03-2011, 05:37 PM
Well the JJJ people do see them way more often in real life than the haters who never see them.

Omah
19-03-2011, 05:39 PM
Nothing will convince me that John James and Josie are romantically involved, even if they walked up the aisle tomorrow. I think they are both just exploiting their z list fame for as long as possible, and whilst Josie might harbour romantic feelings towards John James, I am convinced they are not reciprocated.

However, money talks, and whilst there's still interest in the gruesome twosome who can blame them for taking full advantage. John James is a complete and utter nobody back in Oz, that's the real reason he's still hanging around in the UK like a bad smell. I think he's thankful he can use JJ as an excuse to keep Josie at bay.

"gruesome twosome" - so apt ..... :laugh2:

MTVN
19-03-2011, 05:43 PM
I'm amazed people are still obssessing over this idea that their relationship is "fake", a business deal, contrived etc. and going to such lengths to try and prove their claims

They've been together for 7 or 8 months now, werent you all saying they'd have broken up as soon as they left the house? Dont really see what else they can do to show they're not a fake couple. And even if they were, why do people even care so much this long after BB?

Pyramid*
19-03-2011, 05:46 PM
Well the JJJ people do see them way more often in real life than the haters who never see them.

Ah...the old nugget term 'haters' always comes in play.

You don't have to hate a person to simply believe that they are not in love. That's not hating. It's called an opinion.

'JJJ'. didn't I read on recently you chastising someone for using such nicknames .......... rather than John James / Josie etc....????:whistle:

Pyramid*
19-03-2011, 05:48 PM
I'm amazed people are still obssessing over this idea that their relationship is "fake", a business deal, contrived etc. and going to such lengths to try and prove their claims

They've been together for 7 or 8 months now, werent you all saying they'd have broken up as soon as they left the house? Dont really see what else they can do to show they're not a fake couple. And even if they were, why do people even care so much this long after BB?


Possibly something to do with the fact that this forum is called Tibbs, and is effectively devoted in the main to Big Brother? perhaps we should all refrain from making comment about any BB housemate from the past entirely then?

pices
19-03-2011, 05:49 PM
I'm amazed people are still obssessing over this idea that their relationship is "fake", a business deal, contrived etc. and going to such lengths to try and prove their claims

They've been together for 7 or 8 months now, werent you all saying they'd have broken up as soon as they left the house? Dont really see what else they can do to show they're not a fake couple. And even if they were, why do people even care so much this long after BB?

Hmmm, Lubex:dance::dance::dance:

MTVN
19-03-2011, 05:52 PM
Possibly something to do with the fact that this forum is called Tibbs, and is effectively devoted in the main to Big Brother? perhaps we should all refrain from making comment about any BB housemate from the past entirely then?

I just find it odd that, considering people are so opposed to their relationship, they carry on hunting down pictures and information about them.

Hmmm, Lubex:dance::dance::dance:

What's that supposed to mean :conf2:

pices
19-03-2011, 05:56 PM
I just find it odd that, considering people are so opposed to their relationship, they carry on hunting down pictures and information about them.



What's that supposed to mean :conf2:

Just that we had exactly the same scenario and arguments over Luke and Bex, they too lived together for about 18 months, guess what/ when they fell out it really was a fall out and they admitted to it all being fake for the mag deals etc, they actually hated each other after a few short weeks.

Pyramid*
19-03-2011, 05:57 PM
I just find it odd that, considering people are so opposed to their relationship, they carry on hunting down pictures and information about them.



What's that supposed to mean :conf2:
What pictures have I hunted down? None.

Why shouldn't people comment on them or any other BB housemate that chooses to keep themselves in the public eye - as I asked earlier there, does this mean that because someone left the BB house a long time ago, that they cannot or should not be discussed on a forum dedicated to BB?

JJJ are in this for money making: no other reason - even when it means bringing up abortion that she had years ago. The woman has no shame if there is a pay cheque at the end of it.

If the didn't want the public to discuss them or be in the public eye, they wouldn't be willing to ***** themselves to the media.

MTVN
19-03-2011, 05:59 PM
Just that we had exactly the same scenario and arguments over Luke and Bex, they too lived together for about 18 months, guess what/ when they fell out it really was a fall out and they admitted to it all being fake for the mag deals etc, they actually hated each other after a few short weeks.

Oh, I didnt know that, never saw that series

What pictures have I hunted down? None.

Why shouldn't people comment on them or any other BB housemate that chooses to keep themselves in the public eye - as I asked earlier there, does this mean that because someone left the BB house a long time ago, that they cannot or should not be discussed on a forum dedicated to BB?

JJJ are in this for money making: no other reason - even when it means bringing up abortion that she had years ago. The woman has no shame if there is a pay cheque at the end of it.

If the didn't want the public to discuss them or be in the public eye, they wouldn't be willing to ***** themselves to the media.

You havent hunted down pictures but my post was never directed at you personally was it?

So you dont like them but you like having them in the public eye so you cant bitch about them?

Pyramid*
19-03-2011, 06:08 PM
Oh, I didnt know that, never saw that series



You havent hunted down pictures but my post was never directed at you personally was it?

So you dont like them but you like having them in the public eye so you cant bitch about them?

Oh excuse me - I'm not psychic! You quote a post of mine and make comment about hunting down pictures etc..... when I haven't done so. Perhaps you might make your posts a little clearer in line with addressing what the quote is saying then.

Your last sentence doesn't make sense btw!!!

You call it bitching - I call it my view that I see two people who are not in a loving romantic relationship, pretending that they are, for money. I'm probably closer to the truth.

See you are avoiding my question about making mention of any BB housemate and why people should want to discuss them (or any other BB housemate).....

MTVN
19-03-2011, 06:12 PM
Oh excuse me - I'm not psychic! You quote a post of mine and make comment about hunting down pictures etc..... when I haven't done so. Perhaps you might make your posts a little clearer in line with addressing what the quote is saying then.

Your last sentence doesn't make sense btw!!!

You call it bitching - I call it my view that I see two people who are not in a loving romantic relationship, pretending that they are, for money. I'm probably closer to the truth.

See you are avoiding my question about making mention of any BB housemate and why people should want to discuss them (or any other BB housemate).....

I quoted a post of yours becaue you were the one who replied to my general post :conf2: Then I referred to those who did find pictures "people" not you personally.

But I'm not going to get dragged into an argument over this, fine, carry on if you choose

Edit - wait, yes that last sentance didnt make sense, it was supposed to be "can bitch about them" not "cant"

Angus
19-03-2011, 06:15 PM
Possibly something to do with the fact that this forum is called Tibbs, and is effectively devoted in the main to Big Brother? perhaps we should all refrain from making comment about any BB housemate from the past entirely then?

And yet the very people banging on about "being obsessed" etc, are on this thread. If they're not interested, why bother commenting?? I don't make a habit of frequenting various sports threads and other specialist threads in order to enquire what the hell is up with folk who find those sports or topics interesting.:bored:

Pyramid*
19-03-2011, 06:16 PM
I quoted a post of yours becaue you were the one who replied to my general post :conf2: Then I referred to those who did find pictures "people" not you personally.

But I'm not going to get dragged into an argument over this, fine, carry on if you choose

Hardly an argument.

You still haven't replied to the question I asked about you saying why should anyone care so much after this length of time ..... that could be said any time any thread pops up about any BB housemate on this forum. Personally I'd have thought it stranger for a forum such as Tibbs to NOT have threads discussing housemates of times gone by.

Omah
19-03-2011, 06:19 PM
Hmmm, Lubex:dance::dance::dance:

The other "gruesome twosome" ..... :eek:

MTVN
19-03-2011, 06:22 PM
Hardly an argument.

You still haven't replied to the question I asked about you saying why should anyone care so much after this length of time ..... that could be said any time any thread pops up about any BB housemate on this forum. Personally I'd have thought it stranger for a forum such as Tibbs to NOT have threads discussing housemates of times gone by.

:shrug:

Princess
19-03-2011, 06:54 PM
Ah...the old nugget term 'haters' always comes in play.

You don't have to hate a person to simply believe that they are not in love. That's not hating. It's called an opinion.

'JJJ'. didn't I read on recently you chastising someone for using such nicknames .......... rather than John James / Josie etc....????:whistle:

Yeah I said John wasn't called JJ cos he isn't,John and Josie don't mind being called JJJ,they've said :p

Pyramid*
19-03-2011, 07:03 PM
Yeah I said John wasn't called JJ cos he isn't,John and Josie don't mind being called JJJ,they've said :p

ah....so it's okay for you to critisise others for abbreviating their names on a forum and making it a big issue - but you are happy to use abbreviations yourself when it suits you.


How hypocritical.

Angus
19-03-2011, 07:06 PM
Yeah I said John wasn't called JJ cos he isn't,John and Josie don't mind being called JJJ,they've said :p

Who cares what they don't mind being called - they're fair game for any criticism if they want to put themselves in the public eye so they better start growing thicker skins.

patsylimerick
19-03-2011, 07:09 PM
:joker::joker: So while I've been away the two most hackneyed, predicatable and redundant arguments known to forums have raised their feeble wee heads.

A: Youse are haterzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

B: Why are you still talking about them?



:joker::joker::joker:

Pyramid*
19-03-2011, 07:25 PM
:joker::joker: So while I've been away the two most hackneyed, predicatable and redundant arguments known to forums have raised their feeble wee heads.

A: Youse are haterzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

B: Why are you still talking about them?



:joker::joker::joker:


Now what's that term again for that....... how long it takes for the obvious to crop up!!! LOL :blush:

Omah
19-03-2011, 10:41 PM
:joker::joker: So while I've been away the two most hackneyed, predicatable and redundant arguments known to forums have raised their feeble wee heads.

A: Youse are haterzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

B: Why are you still talking about them?



:joker::joker::joker:

I'm waiting for "Ur jus jellus" ..... :laugh:

James
20-03-2011, 10:35 AM
Precisely, and yet the Josie and John James supporters have no more authentic information or knowledge to go on than those that despise and detest them. Therefore it comes down to a matter of perception and individual opinion.

If a supporter is going to tell me that I don't know them because only a microcosm of their true selves and lives is revealed by their twitter and other media, and that I've got it all wrong, then I will use the same argument back at them since they don't have anything else to base their opinions on either.

Well if two people say they are together it is usually accepted as being true. That's the way it normally works, only in Big Brother world is a different standard applied, with the subject being discussed months after the show has finished.

Most people don't lie about such matters. You'd just end up making a fool of yourself if you did. And if a couple wanted to fake a relationship (if it actually happens?) it would probably last a few weeks before going seperate ways. Pretty ridiculous to imagine continually having to put out a made-up story about your life to anyone you meet and asks, online and the media. You'd be living your life as a lie.

But if the evidence is being weighed, on the one hand you've got a photograph where one person is leaning to the side and a bunch of irrelevant, selective bits of trivia off Twitter which can be interpreted any number of ways. One the other hand to suggest it is real you've got the two people involved who say it is real, close friends that know them who say it is genuine and people who have met them who all say they look genuine.

Pyramid*
20-03-2011, 10:45 AM
Well if two people say they are together it is usually accepted as being true. That's the way it normally works, only in Big Brother world is a different standard applied, with the subject being discussed months after the show has finished.

Most people don't lie about such matters. You'd just end up making a fool of yourself if you did. And if a couple wanted to fake a relationship (if it actually happens?) it would probably last a few weeks before going seperate ways. Pretty ridiculous to imagine continually having to put out a made-up story about your life to anyone you meet and asks, online and the media. You'd be living your life as a lie.

But if the evidence is being weighed, on the one hand you've got a photograph where one person is leaning to the side and a bunch of irrelevant, selective bits of trivia off Twitter which can be interpreted any number of ways. One the other hand to suggest it is real you've got the two people involved who say it is real, close friends that know them who say it is genuine and people who have met them who all say they look genuine.


I will say what has been said before on here-- Luke and Bex - spun out for as long as they could before they simply couldn't keep up the pretence - at the cost of making a lot of money from the very gullible fans who stupidly fell for the obviously scripted and played out romance - for nothing more than fame and fortune at the expense of conning the naive public.

Outside BB?
Elton and Renata (or whatever his wife was called)
Jackson and Presley
Simon Cowell and several other women

there are many in the past and present who 'present' themselves as a couple when in fact, there is little romantic or sexual intimacy going on at a true and genunie level - which gives rise to such speculation -rightly and wrongly

When the lure of a fake relationship is enough to project one into the media spotlight and allow much money to be made, OR to project some sense of being hetrosexual for the massess - there is a hidden agenda to do so - either to court the public or for financial gain only. This is precisely what I believe JJJ are doing.

Vicky.
20-03-2011, 05:31 PM
Right, deleted a load of offtopic posts in here. Replied to PM sent to me about an issue that was raised also

Next person to take this offtopic/insult anyone else will get a hefty infraction from me.

Peace.

Zippy
20-03-2011, 05:52 PM
Next person to take this offtopic/insult anyone else will get a hefty infraction from me.

Peace.

:joker:

James
20-03-2011, 06:01 PM
I will say what has been said before on here-- Luke and Bex - spun out for as long as they could before they simply couldn't keep up the pretence - at the cost of making a lot of money from the very gullible fans who stupidly fell for the obviously scripted and played out romance - for nothing more than fame and fortune at the expense of conning the naive public.

Outside BB?
Elton and Renata (or whatever his wife was called)
Jackson and Presley
Simon Cowell and several other women

there are many in the past and present who 'present' themselves as a couple when in fact, there is little romantic or sexual intimacy going on at a true and genunie level - which gives rise to such speculation -rightly and wrongly

When the lure of a fake relationship is enough to project one into the media spotlight and allow much money to be made, OR to project some sense of being hetrosexual for the massess - there is a hidden agenda to do so - either to court the public or for financial gain only. This is precisely what I believe JJJ are doing.

Attempt at on-topicness.

I wish I knew more about these celebs to comment properly (and I didn't pay much attention to them) but didn't Luke and Bex have a rather acrimonious break-up? That would suggest that there was some emotion involved rather than simply a cold business relationship running its course.

Of the others I think MJ and Lisa-Marie Presley was probably real? I remember she was quoted as being pretty sad when he died.

Don't know anything about the others. Not sure I even knew Elton John was married.

Pyramid*
20-03-2011, 06:10 PM
Attempt at on-topicness.

I wish I knew more about these celebs to comment properly (and I didn't pay much attention to them) but didn't Luke and Bex have a rather acrimonious break-up? That would suggest that there was some emotion involved rather than simply a cold business relationship running its course.

Of the others I think MJ and Lisa-Marie Presley was probably real? I remember she was quoted as being pretty sad when he died.

Don't know anything about the others. Not sure I even knew Elton John was married.

Luke and Bex admitted that they couldn't really stand each other ....... and I imagine that being released from the shackles of being 'in a supposed relationship' must have been trying (to say the least). This is what I think the situ with JJJ is also: and why Josie freely admits that they argue all the time.

(and yep, on a side note: Elton was married for 3 years, and after divorcing, a few years on he finally admitted to being gay).

Vicky.
20-03-2011, 06:15 PM
Aww is that true about luke and bex? :eek:

They are my fave BB couple ever, such an odd match yet so perfect for each other IMO

Angus
20-03-2011, 06:18 PM
(and yep, on a side note: Elton was married for 3 years, and after divorcing, a few years on he finally admitted to being gay).

Her name was Renata and I think she was German if I remember right?

Pyramid*
20-03-2011, 06:32 PM
Aww is that true about luke and bex? :eek:

They are my fave BB couple ever, such an odd match yet so perfect for each other IMO

When they were in the audience for the last shows on the side show.... you could almost feel the hate between them.

Her name was Renata and I think she was German if I remember right?

think so..... and I think this is exactly what role Josie is playing in this current relationship - she may have feeling for JJ, but I very much doubt they are reciprocated on the level she may wish/want. IMO

James
20-03-2011, 08:16 PM
Luke and Bex admitted that they couldn't really stand each other ....... and I imagine that being released from the shackles of being 'in a supposed relationship' must have been trying (to say the least). This is what I think the situ with JJJ is also: and why Josie freely admits that they argue all the time.

(and yep, on a side note: Elton was married for 3 years, and after divorcing, a few years on he finally admitted to being gay).

Do you have a link to the Luke and Bex story?

I'd say the arguing thing is a sign of realness. A fake couple would sit back and wait for the money to roll in.

Princess
20-03-2011, 08:20 PM
I do remember Bex or Luke saying something how they weren't really together or something to that affect. On the gay thing it's nothing nowadays like it was back when Elton John got married, being gay is not a big deal in the celeb world(gay guys are more loved than anything) so I don't see why anyone would feel the need to hide it. Anyways I told myself I wasn't coming back to this thread so *fecks off*

Pyramid*
20-03-2011, 08:38 PM
Do you have a link to the Luke and Bex story?

I'd say the arguing thing is a sign of realness. A fake couple would sit back and wait for the money to roll in.

No, fraid not, it was far too long ago now for me to keep links to such things...... I recall them actually discussing it on tv though.

Princess: much as I'd like to agree that being gay isn't an issue now: I think it still is - very much so. You just have to look at some of the newer celebs who took quite some time for and admission of their sexuality - because they were being targeted to young females (I'm thinking the likes of Will Young initially - that sort of thing). Not saying it's right - not at all - a person's sexuality is nothing to be ashamed of: what is shameful, is pretending to be something you are not in an effort for 'promotional gain'. And I honestly do think this is what JJ is all about. I could be very wrong. Time will tell.

Omah
20-03-2011, 08:51 PM
Do you have a link to the Luke and Bex story?

I'd say the arguing thing is a sign of realness. A fake couple would sit back and wait for the money to roll in.

This was the break-up :

Big Brother losers have most shocking and deranged public break-up ever

Sadly not. On Saturday night, Bex took to Twitter and claimed, amongst other things, that Luke had deleted her old Twitter and Facebook accounts and wiped her phone's memory, that he'd been cheating on her with a 19 year old boy, and that she'd issued a restraining order against him. At least, that's what we've managed to translate from confusing rants like this - and these are just the ones we're allowed to show you as some of them are a little more, um, graphic:

"The police wer called at 11pm Last nyt on him! For sitting outside my ****** house! I have a ****** restraining order on him For ***** sake."

Luke, on the other hand, was a little more restrained (not to mention slightly more in control of his keyboard), hitting back with the likes of:

"I will not stoop to the lower than low level by giving out numbers but thanks for all your support and the police have been contacted asap."

"Don't believe anything she says she deleted her own accounts it was bad enough cheating on me but now she has handed my phone num out."

http://www.3am.co.uk/big-brother-luke-and-bex-break-up-on-twitter/20248/

:joker:

Vicky.
20-03-2011, 08:53 PM
From that story, it seems it was genuine though :/

The anger helps convince me that it was real too :joker:

Niamh.
20-03-2011, 08:56 PM
From that story, it seems it was genuine though :/

The anger helps convince me that it was real too :joker:

yeah, I agree, you need to actually have had feelings for someone to get so angry, imo anyway. You'd imagine if it were purely for financial or publicitys sake that it would be more planned and dignified

Omah
20-03-2011, 09:04 PM
From that story, it seems it was genuine though :/

The anger helps convince me that it was real too :joker:

Nah, it was fake - they didn't live together or have (alleged) sex for the previous 12 months - Coventry to Warrington or London once a month is not a relationship ..... :joker:

yeah, I agree, you need to actually have had feelings for someone to get so angry, imo anyway. You'd imagine if it were purely for financial or publicitys sake that it would be more planned and dignified

OTOH, if the gravy-train depended on the (alleged) relationship, at least one party would be very annoyed at having to go back to Poverty Street, Coundon, Coventry ..... ;)

Niamh.
20-03-2011, 09:10 PM
Nah, it was fake - they didn't live together or have (alleged) sex for the previous 12 months - Coventry to Warrington or London once a month is not a relationship ..... :joker:



OTOH, if the gravy-train depended on the (alleged) relationship, at least one party would be very annoyed at having to go back to Poverty Street, Coundon, Coventry ..... ;)

maybe so but it would take a very strange sort of person to actually be able to keep that up

Omah
20-03-2011, 09:15 PM
maybe so but it would take a very strange sort of person to actually be able to keep that up

Exactly - Strangely Camp Marsden and Strangely Stalker Shiner ..... :wink:

Niamh.
20-03-2011, 09:16 PM
Exactly - Strangely Camp Marsden and Strangely Stalker Shiner ..... :wink:

I never watched that series so don't know them too very well

Omah
20-03-2011, 09:22 PM
I never watched that series so don't know them too very well

Well, Luke's "campness" was very effeminate and he was a real "bitch" in the house, while Bex's stalking was on record :
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/big_brother/article1281774.ece


Becky used to spend all her spare cash following the bands on tour.

And her obsession with them has landed her in hot water more than once.

On Saturday we revealed how US group Hanson threatened a restraining order after she camped outside their hotel and hounded them by ringing their rooms.

And when she was just 15 Rebecca was arrested after following boy band V to Disneyland in Paris. She ran out of cash after two days and slept on a park bench, where she was nicked.

:eek:

Vicky.
20-03-2011, 09:29 PM
Luke was fantastic :D

Omah
20-03-2011, 09:42 PM
Luke was fantastic :D

No, he wasn't ..... :eek:

Princess
20-03-2011, 10:43 PM
I forgot Bex was obsessed with Hanson! I think that was half the reason I liked her.