Tipping

[Shaun]

How generous are you with regard to tips?

For me I find the majority of them pointless. Especially when most people will turn a blind eye to the homeless, those selling Big Issue, or buskers.

I know the jobs where tipping is customary are generally low-paid, but so is garbage disposal. So is cleaning. Do we tip those? No.

The only example where I think I am fine with tipping is with takeaway delivery - but that's more out of impatience and telling them to keep the change :laugh:

I think taxi drivers make a ridiculous amount through tips - so I avoid tipping them. And waiters...what's the point? Oh well done, you've done what I could have done had I gone to the till myself, ordered it myself, and carried it myself.

[GypsyGoth]

I don't tip. Apart from in Paris, I leave 10% at cafes (well the person paying leaves 10% :D)

[Scarlett.]

Oh well done, you've done what I could have done had I gone to the till myself, ordered it myself, and carried it myself.

But could you serve 24 people three courses in an hour an half twice a day 6 days a week? ;) Not that I actually get tips often due to being the one who goes to cover other people tables on their days off :spin:

[MTVN]

Normally leave 10% if they're good, less if they're not. I rarely dont tip though, I feel guilty if I dont :laugh:

[Ramsay]

Ah i hate tipping people
Ill tip taxi drivers when im drunk cus i cant be arsed waiting for change but apart from that i dont:joker:

[Kerry]

Don't use resturants

Tip Taxis depending on the driver (friendly) and speed

Tip takeaway deliveries but usually just the change

Tip the window cleaner at Xmas

[Scarlett.]

Don't really use anywhere where I could tip anyone myself, due to unsociable hours :3

[Shaun]

But could you serve 24 people three courses in an hour an half twice a day 6 days a week? ;) Not that I actually get tips often due to being the one who goes to cover other people tables on their days off :spin:

I'm not paying for them to serve other people :p

[Scarlett.]

I'm not paying for them to serve other people :p

Lol we don't actually ask for tips in our restaraunt anyway (no signs of pots or anything) our guests just tip because we build up a little friendship with them over the week :hugesmile:

[Stu]

I tip all the time. Waitresses and the like are just decent people trying to carve out a living by suffering crappy wages and customer abuse in dead end jobs to fund their education. I tip taxi drivers because they are nice friendly blokes to have a chat to when they wagon you home because you can barely walk. I tip take away blokes for bringing me nice hot food in a job they definately don't want to see themselves doing.

I give money to the homeless too. I don't drink and I grow my own dope so I have plenty of money - I don't buy that much stuff - and ... at the risk of sounding pretentious ... I have no problem being kind to people like that. I just see it as a sign of decency.

I know plenty of waitresses and the money they make is appaling and they really depend on tips. Garbage men don't, in my experience. At least in this country they are well paying council jobs given the work you have to do.

[GypsyGoth]

I actually hate when you order a delivery of indian/chinese (or whatever) and the person who drops it off fumbles in their pockets for your change, it's like they hope you'll just get fed up waiting and say keep it :bored:

[Novo]

Gave about £9.80 to some homeless person once after winning about £94 on Roulette & Blackjack i was just on a high so thought **** it may as well be his lucky day only started with £2 anyway

[Locke.]

Just round it up in taxis, if it's something like £8.30 thenI'll give them £9.

Don't think i've ever tipped anyone else other than taxi drivers..

[Benjamin]

How generous are you with regard to tips?

For me I find the majority of them pointless. Especially when most people will turn a blind eye to the homeless, those selling Big Issue, or buskers.

I know the jobs where tipping is customary are generally low-paid, but so is garbage disposal. So is cleaning. Do we tip those? No.

The only example where I think I am fine with tipping is with takeaway delivery - but that's more out of impatience and telling them to keep the change :laugh:

I think taxi drivers make a ridiculous amount through tips - so I avoid tipping them. And waiters...what's the point? Oh well done, you've done what I could have done had I gone to the till myself, ordered it myself, and carried it myself.


OMG do not get me started on tips!


I'll give you this now, you DO NOT tip then expect crap service.

How rude. Waiters especially, they try to make you people that usually have a dull night in, have a good night and you don't tip! Yeah you ever go back there and they remember


12% tip is what it should be, but the tight poor scum of the world forget this and just pay for the pittance they ordered. Honestly I never realised the crap waiters go through, but my god, the public are whining wankers.

[Benjamin]

Just to add. I have been a waiter and find that it is the dregs of society that do not tip.

Take it as you will, but poor and scummy people generally do not tip. ;)

[Iceman]

I actually hate when you order a delivery of indian/chinese (or whatever) and the person who drops it off fumbles in their pockets for your change, it's like they hope you'll just get fed up waiting and say keep it :bored:

This,
sometimes I have a tip ready but just need the change then they do that and im like "right you're getting zilch"

[Locke.]

Just to add. I have been a waiter and find that it is the dregs of society that do not tip.

Take it as you will, but poor and scummy people generally do not tip. ;)

Have you or anyone you work with ever done anything to peoples food/drink?

Be honest :nono:

[Angus]

I'm happy to tip if I have had good (or at least adequate) service, but there's no way I'm going to reward crap service, I'm not a hypocrite?

[Stephanie]

i usually tip at restaurants, round up to the nearest pound with taxi drivers and usually just tell the delivery people to keep the change.

[30stone]

I tip if the service is good and friendly if they are crap then generally i wont.
If they are like a pretty waitress they get extra, and my number on the bill lol!


I wont tip a delivery person i think they are useless usually.

People get payed for what they do, if they do it badly they dont deserve a tip, if they do it well, friendly smiling etc then they get a tip

[Lee.]

I always tip in restaurants, at least 10%

[Crimson Dynamo]

No tips. Silly system.

here is my tip for those that cry when they dont get a tip: Get a new job.

[Niamh.]

I do tip, waitresses etc rely on tips alot of the time to bump up their wages so I wouldn't feel right not tipping them (I have, not tipped waitresses etc before, when they were rude or unhelpful though)

[Scarlett.]

Just to add. I have been a waiter and find that it is the dregs of society that do not tip.

Take it as you will, but poor and scummy people generally do not tip. ;)
I don't think that, if someone doesn't tip me after a week of serving them, I take it as a tip (geddit) that maybe I could have done better

[LemonJam]

...isn't calling people scum on here a rulebreak? Just saying.

[Beso]

I always tip.

[Captain.Remy]

I don't give money to the homeless but I sometimes give some in a bar because when I used to be a bartender, the tips per weekend paid my cigs for the week. I was grateful for that so now I give it back because no, being a bartender isn't always fun :hugesmile:

[arista]

How generous are you with regard to tips?

For me I find the majority of them pointless. Especially when most people will turn a blind eye to the homeless, those selling Big Issue, or buskers.

I know the jobs where tipping is customary are generally low-paid, but so is garbage disposal. So is cleaning. Do we tip those? No.

The only example where I think I am fine with tipping is with takeaway delivery - but that's more out of impatience and telling them to keep the change :laugh:

I think taxi drivers make a ridiculous amount through tips - so I avoid tipping them. And waiters...what's the point? Oh well done, you've done what I could have done had I gone to the till myself, ordered it myself, and carried it myself.



You are so Touchy
you need a good Rogering.


Feel The Force.

[Vicky.]

I round up to the nearest pound in taxis, unless I get one of the horrible moody drivers who makes you feel like you are putting him out by offering him business.

In restaurants, it depends on the service. I tend to just round up to the nearest fiver or tenner though, not a percentage. If the service is crap, you wont get an extra penny off me, and you can death stare me all the way out of the restaurant if you wish to, makes no difference to me.

I dont give homeless people money. As I am a bit cynical and believe that most of the time they would spend it on alcohol or drugs. I actually knew someone who used to go sit on durham bridge on his days off his well paid job, with his dog, and make quite a bit off the gullible nice people who gave him cash. I buy them food instead. I actually bought a homeless bloke a kfc last night actually :laugh: (on a side note, he actually didnt seem very grateful, which adds to my point of how I think most want the money for drugs or whatever...he seemed more happy about the cigarette I gave him, though his opening sentence to me was 'Ive had nothing to eat for a week' or something)

[Crimson Dynamo]

Taking orders and bringing food must be one of the most menial/easy tasks around and for some reason that is one which probably most people tip for.

That is bonkers

[Scarlett.]

Taking orders and bringing food must be one of the most menial/easy tasks around and for some reason that is one which probably most people tip for.

That is bonkers

k, you try carrying four full scalding hot plates in one hand whilst carrying two vegetable trays, also scalding hot in the other

[Benjamin]

Going back to my rant, obviously if the service has been crap, then fair enough don't tip.

It's when you have served these people all night and gone out of your way to make sure they have an amazing evening and they leave nothing.

It's ok though as where I used to work we remember the regular non-tippers and would give them the crap tables, and just give them the basic service. ;)


Another rule of thumb, is those that complain for no reason. If there is an actual problem, again fair enough, but for those who just like to complain for the sake of it I wouldn't; NEVER piss off the waiter or Chef. ;)

[Vicky.]

Another rule of thumb, is those that complain for no reason. If there is an actual problem, again fair enough, but for those who just like to complain for the sake of it I wouldn't; NEVER piss off the waiter or Chef. ;)

Yes, I already know this from working in food places myself :p

[arista]

I round up to the nearest pound in taxis, unless I get one of the horrible moody drivers who makes you feel like you are putting him out by offering him business.

In restaurants, it depends on the service. I tend to just round up to the nearest fiver or tenner though, not a percentage. If the service is crap, you wont get an extra penny off me, and you can death stare me all the way out of the restaurant if you wish to, makes no difference to me.

I dont give homeless people money. As I am a bit cynical and believe that most of the time they would spend it on alcohol or drugs. I actually knew someone who used to go sit on durham bridge on his days off his well paid job, with his dog, and make quite a bit off the gullible nice people who gave him cash. I buy them food instead. I actually bought a homeless bloke a kfc last night actually :laugh: (on a side note, he actually didnt seem very grateful, which adds to my point of how I think most want the money for drugs or whatever...he seemed more happy about the cigarette I gave him, though his opening sentence to me was 'Ive had nothing to eat for a week' or something)



Yes Vicky
you are most Wise.



Life In The City.

[Niamh.]

Taking orders and bringing food must be one of the most menial/easy tasks around and for some reason that is one which probably most people tip for.

That is bonkers

because it's a very low paid job obviously.

[Stephanie]

i'd never try and annoy someone who handled my food, the film waiting... comes to mind :joker:

[Locke.]

The turtle has been spitting in peoples food

[Benjamin]

The turtle has been spitting in peoples food

I'd never do such a thing, there is other ways to annoy/get back at rude customers though. ;)

[joeysteele]

I always tip as long as I have had friendly and good service, I have to say I rarely find I get bad service form anyone but I choose where I dine out carefully as being a Student some staff,I stress very few though, in Restaurants think they can make you wait longer or hold the view you will not tip them.

[Crimson Dynamo]

because it's a very low paid job obviously.

Among many, and it is low paid because anyone can do it, ie no skill is needed.

[Benjamin]

Among many, and it is low paid because anyone can do it, ie no skill is needed.

Trust me not anyone can do it. 12 hours of running around, dealing with some of the most annoying members of the general public, (I acn't be bothered to list more).



The amount of people I have seen hold that opinion and try to do the job. They last a few days before being broken down. ;)

(I'm on about proper restaurants, 5* ones btw)

[Niamh.]

Among many, and it is low paid because anyone can do it, ie no skill is needed.

yes, mostly in the service industry which is why people tip.Yeah, no skill is needed (to a point, you can still have really good and really bad waiting staff!) I don't see why just because anyone "can do it" is a reason to not tip tbh yeah anyone can do it but alot won't do it and we need waiters and waitresses, in all likelihood if they weren't getting tips they'd probably be as well off on the dole

[Tom.]

I always tip in bars and restaurants

Never tip takeaway drivers

I never give to the "homeless" either because I'm not gullible.

[Angus]

I understand that waiting staff are poorly paid, but I don't see why customers should be expected to subsidise their wages by tipping. I particularly hate restaurants where the service charge is already factored in. Tipping should be seen as a bonus, a reward for good service, not as a means for stingy employers to avoid paying a decent wage.

And what about shop staff who get no tips to supplement their lousy wages?

[Vicky.]

I understand that waiting staff are poorly paid, but I don't see why customers should be expected to subsidise their wages by tipping. I particularly hate restaurants where the service charge is already factored in. Tipping should be seen as a bonus, a reward for good service, not as a means for stingy employers to avoid paying a decent wage.

And what about shop staff who get no tips to supplement their lousy wages?
Yeah that really pisses me off actually

[Tom.]

Bar staff aren't as badly paid as people think, definitely not where I've worked anyway. Actual bar staff were on about £7.50 an hour, supervisers on about £9 (what I was) and then managers on yearly salary. Then imagine time and a half or double pay for bank holidays etc and they don't come out with a bad wage at all.

[Niamh.]

I understand that waiting staff are poorly paid, but I don't see why customers should be expected to subsidise their wages by tipping. I particularly hate restaurants where the service charge is already factored in. Tipping should be seen as a bonus, a reward for good service, not as a means for stingy employers to avoid paying a decent wage.

And what about shop staff who get no tips to supplement their lousy wages?

Yeah, I don't like that either. It really shouldn't be allowed imo

[Scarlett.]

I agree angus, like I've said, where I work there's no signs or notices anywhere mentioning tips, the guests just usually do it out of kindness, if they don't tip, I'm not really bothered lol, forcing tips is pointless as tips are meant to be some kid of "thank you"

[Crimson Dynamo]

yes, mostly in the service industry which is why people tip.Yeah, no skill is needed (to a point, you can still have really good and really bad waiting staff!) I don't see why just because anyone "can do it" is a reason to not tip tbh yeah anyone can do it but alot won't do it and we need waiters and waitresses, in all likelihood if they weren't getting tips they'd probably be as well off on the dole

As has been mentioned in this thread there are countless basic wage jobs that do not get tips.

[Captain.Remy]

Bar staff aren't as badly paid as people think, definitely not where I've worked anyway. Actual bar staff were on about £7.50 an hour, supervisers on about £9 (what I was) and then managers on yearly salary. Then imagine time and a half or double pay for bank holidays etc and they don't come out with a bad wage at all.

I agree. The bar I used to work at paid me damn good money. That + the tips: awesome! :hugesmile:

[Vicky.]

I used to make more in tips than wages working in a very busy nightclub. Was on min wage, but was taking home about 50 quid a night in tips.

On new years day, we got triple pay, and the tips were like 5x more too.

I was very very well off, and only doing 20 hours a week.

[Benjamin]

Bar staff aren't as badly paid as people think, definitely not where I've worked anyway. Actual bar staff were on about £7.50 an hour, supervisers on about £9 (what I was) and then managers on yearly salary. Then imagine time and a half or double pay for bank holidays etc and they don't come out with a bad wage at all.

Actually the majority of bar/waiting staff are on minimum wage, and majority of places do not ever pay double time on weekends/bank holidays.

Even on Christmas Day the place I worked for paid minimum wage and offered a £10 bonus if staff worked a minimum of 6 hours on Christmas day AND Boxing day! £10 is all they got (I refused to work for that day).

[Benjamin]

As has been mentioned in this thread there are countless basic wage jobs that do not get tips.

Yeah but people like shop workers for example serve you only very briefly. A waiter (a good one anyway) will look after you for the evening and make your dining experience a pleasant one.

Also the hours for shop workers are nowhere near as breaking as bar/restaurant hours. A lot of the time you can end up working 12 hours without a break.

[Captain.Remy]

Actually the majority of bar/waiting staff are on minimum wage, and majority of places do not ever pay double time on weekends/bank holidays.

Even on Christmas Day the place I worked for paid minimum wage and offered a £10 bonus if staff worked a minimum of 6 hours on Christmas day AND Boxing day! £10 is all they got (I refused to work for that day).

You were one unlucky bartender lmao

[Tom.]

Actually the majority of bar/waiting staff are on minimum wage, and majority of places do not ever pay double time on weekends/bank holidays.

Even on Christmas Day the place I worked for paid minimum wage and offered a £10 bonus if staff worked a minimum of 6 hours on Christmas day AND Boxing day! £10 is all they got (I refused to work for that day).

It depends on what rank of bar you work at. I wouldn't say its the majority at all.

[Benjamin]

You were one unlucky bartender lmao

Not really, I raked it in on tips because I am amazing in hospitality (shame I hate it so much).

After I was made redundant from the business I used to manage there was not a lot of jobs going (as it was the recession). So rather than go on the dole I sucked up my ego and got a waiting job again.

[Benjamin]

It depends on what rank of bar you work at. I wouldn't say its the majority at all.

Honestly it is. You get some bars that will pay more, but a lot of places at the moment will only pay minimum wage due to the demand for jobs after the recession.


They know people will work for that because they have no choice but to.


EDIT: Obviously if you are a supervisor etc you will be on more, I mean just basic bar staff and waiting staff.

[Niamh.]

Yeah but people like shop workers for example serve you only very briefly. A waiter (a good one anyway) will look after you for the evening and make your dining experience a pleasant one.

Also the hours for shop workers are nowhere near as breaking as bar/restaurant hours. A lot of the time you can end up working 12 hours without a break.

Yeah, I used to work in a bar when I was younger, 5 days a week but it was all split shifts so I started at 11 and finished after closing with a two hour break in the middle, so I was working around 50 hours a week

[Benjamin]

Yeah, I used to work in a bar when I was younger, 5 days a week but it was all split shifts so I started at 11 and finished after closing with a two hour break in the middle, so I was working around 50 hours a week

The highest I ever clocked up was 102 hours in a week. I did 6 days in a row of 7am - midnight as loads of the staff were off sick. It killed me by the end of it.

[Niamh.]

The highest I ever clocked up was 102 hours in a week. I did 6 days in a row of 7am - midnight as loads of the staff were off sick. It killed me by the end of it.

:shocked: that's far too much, you couldn't keep that up. I didn't mind it at the time tbh infact I loved bar work but I was only 19 at the time. I still wouldn't mind doing it now, the only thing that would put me off is the unsociable hours

[Benjamin]

:shocked: that's far too much, you couldn't keep that up. I didn't mind it at the time tbh infact I loved bar work but I was only 19 at the time. I still wouldn't mind doing it now, the only thing that would put me off is the unsociable hours

Yeah, after that week I was like a zombie. Lol.

But yeah, the unsociable hours suck. I think the only time I would ever want to even remotely considering going back to hospitality would be if I own the bar.

[Niamh.]

Yeah, after that week I was like a zombie. Lol.

But yeah, the unsociable hours suck. I think the only time I would ever want to even remotely considering going back to hospitality would be if I own the bar.

haha yeah, I wasn't overly keen on waitressing at all, I only did it the odd time when they needed some one to fill in, I preferred being behind the bar

[Shaun]

why has someone put an exclamation mark in my title :conf2: