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Marsh.
10-04-2011, 06:16 PM
Was this serious? Did the producers actually tell everyone that there were messages in the BB7 logo or was it more Daily Star bull****?
http://eatock.com/files/gimgs/5_dailystar.jpg
georgehudson
10-04-2011, 07:37 PM
It was serious. Davina mentioned it and it was obvious anyway, basically the twisted eye represented that the series would be full of twists and turns (which it was.) And from then on each Eye had a obvious meaning/hint behind it :)
BB8 - Lots of different sections which were all different colours which represented/hinted that there would be loads of different charcters with different personalites (which there were.)
BB9 - The shattered Eye represented/hinted that the housemates would be put through pain and BB would be evil, the red part in the Eye represented/hinted that the housemates would have bloodshot eyes and be worn out and tired. Also, the Eye looked like glass which had been smashed which represented/hinted that the housemates would argue and would crack under the pressure (all of what has been mentioned happened.)
BB10 - The Eye was a thumb print which represents DNA and in the adverts it scanned over each line in the thumb print which represented/hinted that all of the housemates would have their own indetity and be individual (which sort of happened but the housemates were overall pretty crap.)
BB11 - The Eye was made of a reef which represented/hinted the end/funeral as normally the dead person's name is made out of a reef, so the Eye represented the end of BB on C4.
Hope that clears it all up for you :) It took forever to type out! ;)
Zippy
10-04-2011, 07:47 PM
you know youre a nerdy geek when you actually even care about stuff like that
those descripts above look either very vague or very obvious. Nonsense.
Shasown
10-04-2011, 07:55 PM
It was serious. Davina mentioned it and it was obvious anyway, basically the twisted eye represented that the series would be full of twists and turns (which it was.) And from then on each Eye had a obvious meaning/hint behind it :)
BB8 - Lots of different sections which were all different colours which represented/hinted that there would be loads of different charcters with different personalites (which there were.)
BB9 - The shattered Eye represented/hinted that the housemates would be put through pain and BB would be evil, the red part in the Eye represented/hinted that the housemates would have bloodshot eyes and be worn out and tired. Also, the Eye looked like glass which had been smashed which represented/hinted that the housemates would argue and would crack under the pressure (all of what has been mentioned happened.)
BB10 - The Eye was a thumb print which represents DNA and in the adverts it scanned over each line in the thumb print which represented/hinted that all of the housemates would have their own indetity and be individual (which sort of happened but the housemates were overall pretty crap.)
BB11 - The Eye was made of a reef which represented/hinted the end/funeral as normally the dead person's name is made out of a reef, so the Eye represented the end of BB on C4.
Hope that clears it all up for you :) It took forever to type out! ;)
Ever thought of writing horoscopes for a living, you would do brilliantly given those in depth observations that actually reveal nada.
Marsh.
10-04-2011, 08:16 PM
So according to georgehudson each eye represented:
- different people
- all individuals
- with different personalities
God, who'd have thought that putting 16 strangers in a house and you'd end up with differences?
By the way, it's "wreath" not "reef".
Unless you were referring to a:
http://www.solcomhouse.com/images/coral_reef_florida.jpg
It was serious. Davina mentioned it and it was obvious anyway, basically the twisted eye represented that the series would be full of twists and turns (which it was.) And from then on each Eye had a obvious meaning/hint behind it :)
BB8 - Lots of different sections which were all different colours which represented/hinted that there would be loads of different charcters with different personalites (which there were.)
BB9 - The shattered Eye represented/hinted that the housemates would be put through pain and BB would be evil, the red part in the Eye represented/hinted that the housemates would have bloodshot eyes and be worn out and tired. Also, the Eye looked like glass which had been smashed which represented/hinted that the housemates would argue and would crack under the pressure (all of what has been mentioned happened.)
BB10 - The Eye was a thumb print which represents DNA and in the adverts it scanned over each line in the thumb print which represented/hinted that all of the housemates would have their own indetity and be individual (which sort of happened but the housemates were overall pretty crap.)
BB11 - The Eye was made of a reef which represented/hinted the end/funeral as normally the dead person's name is made out of a reef, so the Eye represented the end of BB on C4.
Hope that clears it all up for you :) It took forever to type out! ;)
Complete horsecrap.
None of the eyes bar series 5 and series 11 had a conscious meaning behind them that Daniel Eatock was instructed to put it. Series 5 was created to reflect the new harsh Big Brother and series 11 was obviously to represent the end of Big Brother. Everything in between is nothing but half baked fan speculation that is absoloutely baseless in claim.
The series 7 eye had no meaning either. A certain print version of it that appeared in the promotion [the one where it blended into a massive yellow/black spiral backround] had a sentence in it as part of the promotion but that's it. I think it just said something like 'Big Brother is watching' or something.
Marsh.
10-04-2011, 08:22 PM
BB8 - Lots of different sections which were all different colours which represented/hinted that there would be loads of different charcters with different personalites (which there were.)
Hinted at loads of different characters? On Big Brother? Get away.
That was intended to include all the colours of the rainbow after the Shilpa and Jade race row.
I always thought the BB9 eye was meant to represent a black dude walking though a glass window and getting a bit of blood on the corner of his hand.
It was designed to represent B Bro's malevolence or something.
Patrick
10-04-2011, 08:32 PM
George you're looking well too far into it.
The BB9 Eye simply meant what the house looked like, with the traiangles and stuff.
The BB8 Eye was gay and camp just like the series.
The BB7 Eye was Swirly like Willy Wonka and was Gold - hence the golden tickets.
The BB5 Eye was Sharp and Evil like the House and Series.
That's it really.
The BB10 Eye had nothing to do with the series, The BB11 Eye was obviously a funeral one yeah.
But other than that, there's nothing more to it.
You have a point on the BB7 one. It was gold in the adverts although it was yellow everywhere else.
Niamh.
10-04-2011, 08:46 PM
It was serious. Davina mentioned it and it was obvious anyway, basically the twisted eye represented that the series would be full of twists and turns (which it was.) And from then on each Eye had a obvious meaning/hint behind it :)
BB8 - Lots of different sections which were all different colours which represented/hinted that there would be loads of different charcters with different personalites (which there were.)
BB9 - The shattered Eye represented/hinted that the housemates would be put through pain and BB would be evil, the red part in the Eye represented/hinted that the housemates would have bloodshot eyes and be worn out and tired. Also, the Eye looked like glass which had been smashed which represented/hinted that the housemates would argue and would crack under the pressure (all of what has been mentioned happened.)
BB10 - The Eye was a thumb print which represents DNA and in the adverts it scanned over each line in the thumb print which represented/hinted that all of the housemates would have their own indetity and be individual (which sort of happened but the housemates were overall pretty crap.)
BB11 - The Eye was made of a reef which represented/hinted the end/funeral as normally the dead person's name is made out of a reef, so the Eye represented the end of BB on C4.
Hope that clears it all up for you :) It took forever to type out! ;)
BB10 had the best HMs (for entertainment value) of all the series imo
Marsh.
10-04-2011, 08:51 PM
BB10 had the best HMs (for entertainment value) of all the series imo
BB6 was the best line up for me. Even the considered dull housemates (Vanessa and Eugene) had something to contribute.
Niamh.
10-04-2011, 08:53 PM
BB6 was the best line up for me. Even the considered dull housemates (Vanessa and Eugene) had something to contribute.
yeah, 6 was very good as well actually, also 5
MusicMan
10-04-2011, 10:20 PM
I think there was definitely meaning behind the BB9 eye, I heard someone on the show speaking about it (I forget who... maybe Davina, I'm not sure...)
But apparently the black is meant to represent peace and order, and the red splinter is meant to be war and chaos (or the other way round...!)
And the smashed effect --> sharp edges and points --> bad things! Simple geometric symbolism, as with BB5.
There were obviously links with the house design too as Patrick has mentioned, most noticeably with the wall design on the Hell side of the house (triangles), the kitchen (red and triangles), the garden walls (irregular shapes with harsh corners as opposed to rounded), and the frequent use of the red splinter motif, for example on the B-Block bedroom floor and on doors.
All things considered, and this is just for one series, I think the logos are a far cry from having no meaning. Whether the meaning behind it is more or less obvious - they wouldn't just have a random logo just because it looked 'nice'.
rm212
10-04-2011, 10:28 PM
Yep, there was surely a meaning behind BB9, I loved that eye and house. The BB9 was supposed to represent the "zero-tolerance" BB theme that year and the triangles in the house.
Mac Hiavellian
10-04-2011, 10:33 PM
BB1 - an all seeing eye, basic
BB2 - I think I read t was supposed to represent cabin fever which would relate to the house having lots of bright colours and wood work
BB3 - erm?
BB4 - ooh?
BB5 - obviously evil
Panto - what it says on the tin
BB6 - supposed to be shattered but I think BB9 was more like that
BB7 - it was twisted
BB8 - multicultural esp after CBB5
Celebrity Hijack - E4 takeover, youthful
BB9 - shattering - kinda relates to the intended zero tolerance
BB10 - identity because of that 1 week of reflecting on 10 years of BB
CBB7 - obvious hell theme
BB11 - wreath to symbolise death and kinda related to the carnival theme
I think there was definitely meaning behind the BB9 eye, I heard someone on the show speaking about it (I forget who... maybe Davina, I'm not sure...)
But apparently the black is meant to represent peace and order, and the red splinter is meant to be war and chaos (or the other way round...!)
And the smashed effect --> sharp edges and points --> bad things! Simple geometric symbolism, as with BB5.
There were obviously links with the house design too as Patrick has mentioned, most noticeably with the wall design on the Hell side of the house (triangles), the kitchen (red and triangles), the garden walls (irregular shapes with harsh corners as opposed to rounded), and the frequent use of the red splinter motif, for example on the B-Block bedroom floor and on doors.
All things considered, and this is just for one series, I think the logos are a far cry from having no meaning. Whether the meaning behind it is more or less obvious - they wouldn't just have a random logo just because it looked 'nice'.
Well of course the graphics will tie in with the house. That's just common sense and building a visual identity. It still doesn't mean the eyes have meaning beyond that though. The logos are a far cry from having meaning. The vast majority of them are just cool designs. It goes to show how good they are that they make people insist they have some sort of underlying subtext when they usually don't.
georgehudson
11-04-2011, 07:04 PM
So according to georgehudson each eye represented:
- different people
- all individuals
- with different personalities
God, who'd have thought that putting 16 strangers in a house and you'd end up with differences?
By the way, it's "wreath" not "reef".
Unless you were referring to a:
http://www.solcomhouse.com/images/coral_reef_florida.jpg
Well either way the meanings were real, but thanks for being so ungreatful. T***.
georgehudson
11-04-2011, 07:05 PM
George you're looking well too far into it.
The BB9 Eye simply meant what the house looked like, with the traiangles and stuff.
The BB8 Eye was gay and camp just like the series.
The BB7 Eye was Swirly like Willy Wonka and was Gold - hence the golden tickets.
The BB5 Eye was Sharp and Evil like the House and Series.
That's it really.
The BB10 Eye had nothing to do with the series, The BB11 Eye was obviously a funeral one yeah.
But other than that, there's nothing more to it.
I'm not. They are thinking about all of what I mentioned when designing the eye.
georgehudson
11-04-2011, 07:08 PM
BB10 had the best HMs (for entertainment value) of all the series imo
Rubbish.
It was a rubbish series and had rubbish housemates. BB9 had the best housemates for sure.
georgehudson
11-04-2011, 07:12 PM
Well of course the graphics will tie in with the house. That's just common sense and building a visual identity. It still doesn't mean the eyes have meaning beyond that though. The logos are a far cry from having meaning. The vast majority of them are just cool designs. It goes to show how good they are that they make people insist they have some sort of underlying subtext when they usually don't.
Dont be stupid. Of course they do. :rolleyes:
Patrick
11-04-2011, 07:12 PM
I'm not. They are thinking about all of what I mentioned when designing the eye.
Daniel Eatock designs the eye[s] months ahead before the series begins, before the producers even know what housemates are going into the series.
So how exactly was the BB10 or BB8 Eyes designed to represent the housemates when Daniel Eatock had no clue of who was going in, nor did the producers?
georgehudson
11-04-2011, 07:13 PM
Daniel Eatock designs the eye[s] months ahead before the series begins, before the producers even know what housemates are going into the series.
So how exactly was the BB10 or BB8 Eyes designed to represent the housemates when Daniel Eatock had no clue of who was going in, nor did the producers?
They know the outline of what they want when they are designing the eye.
Come on admit it George ... you can't find your arse with both your hands.
Niall
11-04-2011, 07:23 PM
BB10 had the best HMs (for entertainment value) of all the series imo
They were all so unlikeable though. D;
Beastie
11-04-2011, 11:54 PM
Come on admit it George ... you can't find your arse with both your hands.
:hugesmile:
Marsh.
12-04-2011, 12:24 AM
Daniel Eatock designs the eye[s] months ahead before the series begins, before the producers even know what housemates are going into the series.
So how exactly was the BB10 or BB8 Eyes designed to represent the housemates when Daniel Eatock had no clue of who was going in, nor did the producers?
To be fair, I would say BB8 would be the only logo with an actual intended theme. After the race row they went with the multicoloured (multicultural) eye.
Did they really though? Or did Eatock just say '**** it let's throw the template over a TV test card' and then the papers dubbed it 'multicultural'?
georgehudson
12-04-2011, 09:58 AM
Did they really though? Or did Eatock just say '**** it let's throw the template over a TV test card' and then the papers dubbed it 'multicultural'?
Your so deluded. :rolleyes:
Yeah, everyone is deluded because they don't see the same whacky quasi meanings in pictures of eyes that you do.
If you have a credible source by the way for any of these meanings from inside Channel 4 or from Eatock himself then by all means post them. Until then it's just bored, overexcited fan fantasy, chump.
georgehudson
12-04-2011, 01:56 PM
Yeah, everyone is deluded because they don't see the same whacky quasi meanings in pictures of eyes that you do.
If you have a credible source by the way for any of these meanings from inside Channel 4 or from Eatock himself then by all means post them. Until then it's just bored, overexcited fan fantasy, chump.
:rolleyes:
Tom4784
12-04-2011, 02:11 PM
Calm down guys, also for future reference for everyone, don't report people for insults if you've thrown the first one.
davidrox2010
12-04-2011, 02:12 PM
Well of course the graphics will tie in with the house. That's just common sense and building a visual identity. It still doesn't mean the eyes have meaning beyond that though. The logos are a far cry from having meaning. The vast majority of them are just cool designs. It goes to show how good they are that they make people insist they have some sort of underlying subtext when they usually don't.
Well I understand that each of the eyes represented something, but I think it's reading into things slightly
The eyes are to represent the selected theme of the program and of course each year will be different
The same will probs be said about the CBB8 and BB12 eye assuming they will be the same
Well I understand that each of the eyes represented something, but I think it's reading into things slightly
The eyes are to represent the selected theme of the program and of course each year will be different
The same will probs be said about the CBB8 and BB12 eye assuming they will be the same
The years don't always have themes though. Just hell bent fans who insist that they do. 'Big Brother's zero tolerance' isin't a series theme. Nor is 'mirrors and divide lol' or 'identity'.
Some years have had a thematic approach but others no. Just a general idea of what they wanted the series to be like. That's not always theming.
georgehudson
12-04-2011, 04:08 PM
The years don't always have themes though. Just hell bent fans who insist that they do. 'Big Brother's zero tolerance' isin't a series theme. Nor is 'mirrors and divide lol' or 'identity'.
Some years have had a thematic approach but others no. Just a general idea of what they wanted the series to be like. That's not always theming.
Yes. They. Do!
If you have a credible source by the way for any of these meanings from inside Channel 4 or from Eatock himself then by all means post them. Until then it's just bored, overexcited fan fantasy, chump.
Sorry if I can't take George 'hidden hints at Big Brother's return in Daily Star backround' Hudson's word for it.
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