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Sawyer
18-05-2011, 06:42 PM
I've been noticing this more and more over the past year and a half I've been working in a Traditional Hardware store, but today it came to a head after a older gentleman (around 65-70) was so unbelievably rude. Anyway, I'll just give you a bit of a back story.
I'm 16 years old, I'm a regular teenager, I don't get drunk, I tend not to swear, I'm not one of those stereotypical teenagers that hang round on street corners. I'm a hardworker and am going into the police next year (at 18-and-a-half).
However, when I'm working, the older generation come in and see a young guy behind the counter think it automatically gives them the right to lose all respect and manners. However, do they stop to think that their view and 'tarring all people with the same brush' may be wrong? Perhaps if they stop to think that not all teenagers are the same, pay the teenager some respect and manners, they might get them in return.
This particular gentleman who came in today wanted a key cut. He took one look at me and slammed his key on the counter and said "do three of those." I looked at him, and after some initial hesitation (I usually bite my tongue at work) I replied, "do I get a please with that?" Thankfully, my boss sided with me and everything was ok. I cut the three keys and continued to serve him at the till, and he replied with please and thank yous.
My questions are, as the general public, are we rude on the whole? Do old people tar the younger generation with the same brush and expect respect?
Yeah there is a lot of hostility I think, not helped when the Daily Mail & Sun etc. sensationalise things and go on about broken britain and knife crime and how dangerous teenagers are
I really dont think this generation is that much worse than any that has come before, things just get blown out of proportion more
Marsh.
18-05-2011, 06:54 PM
I don't think it's as much them thinking all teenagers are the same. But, that a lot are hypocritical. When it comes down to it they believe people should respect older generations than themselves but when it comes to them dealing with the youth it doesn't cross their mind that "kids" deserve as much respect as any other human being.
And I agree with MTVN, it's not that this generation is any worse than previous ones it's just that nowadays there's more technology and research and 24/7 news feeds so you just hear about it more than you used to.
Sawyer
18-05-2011, 06:54 PM
Yeah there is a lot of hostility I think, not helped when the Daily Mail & Sun etc. sensationalise things and go on about broken britain and knife crime and how dangerous teenagers are
I really dont think this generation is that much worse than any that has come before, things just get blown out of proportion more
I agree that the media do not help at all. Especially with the 'hoodie' situation. I a load of hoodies, I only wear the hood up when lounging around at home, but when out and about I still get dirty looks when the hood's not even up. I think that's down to the media too.
Sawyer
18-05-2011, 06:57 PM
I don't think it's as much them thinking all teenagers are the same. But, that a lot are hypocritical. When it comes down to it they believe people should respect older generations than themselves but when it comes to them dealing with the youth it doesn't cross their mind that "kids" deserve as much respect as any other human being.
And I agree with MTVN, it's not that this generation is any worse than previous ones it's just that nowadays there's more technology and research and 24/7 news feeds so you just hear about it more than you used to.
Summed it up perfectly, to be honest. Alot of them do think they're superior.
Pyramid*
18-05-2011, 07:00 PM
I've been noticing this more and more over the past year and a half I've been working in a Traditional Hardware store, but today it came to a head after a older gentleman (around 65-70) was so unbelievably rude. Anyway, I'll just give you a bit of a back story.
I'm 16 years old, I'm a regular teenager, I don't get drunk, I tend not to swear, I'm not one of those stereotypical teenagers that hang round on street corners. I'm a hardworker and am going into the police next year (at 18-and-a-half).
However, when I'm working, the older generation come in and see a young guy behind the counter think it automatically gives them the right to lose all respect and manners. However, do they stop to think that their view and 'tarring all people with the same brush' may be wrong? Perhaps if they stop to think that not all teenagers are the same, pay the teenager some respect and manners, they might get them in return.
This particular gentleman who came in today wanted a key cut. He took one look at me and slammed his key on the counter and said "do three of those." I looked at him, and after some initial hesitation (I usually bite my tongue at work) I replied, "do I get a please with that?" Thankfully, my boss sided with me and everything was ok. I cut the three keys and continued to serve him at the till, and he replied with please and thank yous.
My questions are, as the general public, are we rude on the whole? Do old people tar the younger generation with the same brush and expect respect?
Whilst absolutely agreeing with you: a pet hate of mine is also the omission of 'please' and 'thank you' - and like you, if someone is as rude (young or old) I will point out their lack of basic manners, for which there is no need.
That said, it also works in reverse - those younger can be as equally rude and as ignorant as the 'older generations'. I don't tar them all with the same brush but I do think basic manners and respect somehow are being lost along the way in this world we all live in these days.
Vicky.
18-05-2011, 07:03 PM
Eugh dont get me started on rude old people. I swear around 90% of them are exactly the same. You get the odd one who shows you respect but the rest are horrible from my experience.
Just the other day, I was on a crowded bus and an old woman got on, I wasnt in the seats 'reserved' for the elderly, but I still got my bags ready to move for her. There was a middle aged couple in the seats in front of me too...anyways, she walked right past them, glared at me and said I 'had to' move so she could sit down. She could ****ing see that I was already moving my bags anyway so she could sit there...just wanted to make a show of me. Because of this, I then refused to move...she then walked away muttering about 'kids these days' and went to harrass someone else. I didnt feel guilty for not moving for her, as I planned to anyway, and she knew that. The moral of the story? Dont try to make me look a fool for the sake of it, and do not TELL me what to do :)
Pyramid*
18-05-2011, 07:03 PM
Summed it up perfectly, to be honest. Alot of them do think they're superior.
That sounds very much along the same 'stereotypical' generalisation towards the older generation. ......:) The same thing that you've discussed in your opening post, but towards the older generation. It's the age old thing: (no pun intended !!) who is worse? -each will say the other - when in fact, both groups are being stereotyped for a small minority? possibly?
I hate threads like this because everyones argument will invariably be useless. You meet a lot of ignorant older people. I see a lot of nice older people. I also meet a lot of wankers my own age.
Every age has it's wankers and I'm betting the numbers are about the same throughout the scale. Personal experience counts for nothing. I don't think it's something worth compaining about.
I walk past absoloute knob goblins who are 14 and 15 everyday but I wouldn't start a thread and have a moan about kids being ignorant. Some kids are ignorant.
Pyramid*
18-05-2011, 07:07 PM
Eugh dont get me started on rude old people. I swear around 90% of them are exactly the same. You get the odd one who shows you respect but the rest are horrible from my experience.
Just the other day, I was on a crowded bus and an old woman got on, I wasnt in the seats 'reserved' for the elderly, but I still got my bags ready to move for her. There was a middle aged couple in the seats in front of me too...anyways, she walked right past them, glared at me and said I 'had to' move so she could sit down. She could ****ing see that I was already moving my bags anyway so she could sit there...just wanted to make a show of me. Because of this, I then refused to move...she then walked away muttering about 'kids these days' and went to harrass someone else. I didnt feel guilty for not moving for her, as I planned to anyway, and she knew that. The moral of the story? Dont try to make me look a fool for the sake of it, and do not TELL me what to do :)
Oh you get cantankerous old buggars like this for sure: but perhaps her eyesight wasn't so good? Perhaps she was tryng to get a seat quickly in case the bus moved off and she lost balance? Maybe she genuinely didn't see you starting to shift your shopping? There's these types of things to consider...... but to be honest, and in all fairness to you- she DOES sound like a cantankerous old biddy if she was as abrupt as it sound she was !
InOne
18-05-2011, 07:07 PM
I'm 21 and bloody teens annoy me
*shakes walking stick*
Pyramid*
18-05-2011, 07:09 PM
I hate threads like this because everyones argument will invariably be useless. You meet a lot of ignorant older people. I see a lot of nice older people. I also meet a lot of wankers my own age.
Every age has it's wankers and I'm betting the numbers are about the same throughout the scale. Personal experience counts for nothing. I don't think it's something worth compaining about.
I walk past absoloute knob goblins who are 14 and 15 everyday but I wouldn't start a thread and have a moan about kids being ignorant. Some kids are ignorant.
:hugesmile: A post moaning about people moaning !! surely you see the irony.
Sawyer
18-05-2011, 07:09 PM
That sounds very much along the same 'stereotypical' generalisation towards the older generation. ......:) The same thing that you've discussed in your opening post, but towards the older generation. It's the age old thing: (no pun intended !!) who is worse? -each will say the other - when in fact, both groups are being stereotyped for a small minority? possibly?
Lol, but the difference is I always start with respect, you don't to earn it. You get these idiots who say that you have to earn respect and gain it, rather than starting with it and losing it.
I see what you mean, but I'm never rude to begin with. Like the guy in the shop, I said "hiya, how can I help" I get in return "do 3 of those". That's when all respect was lost.
Vicky.
18-05-2011, 07:10 PM
Oh you get cantankerous old buggars like this for sure: but perhaps her eyesight wasn't so good? Perhaps she was tryng to get a seat quickly in case the bus moved off and she lost balance? Maybe she genuinely didn't see you starting to shift your shopping? There's these types of things to consider...... but to be honest, and in all fairness to you- she DOES sound like a cantankerous old biddy if she was as abrupt as it sound she was !
I got a, and I quote
'You have to move so I can sit down'
Even if her eyesight wasnt too good, her attitude was horrid anyways. Respect goes both ways I'm afraid. I wont respect my elders if they talk to me like ****e :)
Sawyer
18-05-2011, 07:11 PM
I got a, and I quote
'You have to move so I can sit down'
Even if her eyesight wasnt too good, her attitude was horrid anyways. Respect goes both ways I'm afraid. I wont respect my elders if they talk to me like ****e :)
Yes, I completely agree with you. They don't get that respect is a two way street.
:hugesmile: A post moaning about people moaning !! surely you see the irony.
No, I don't. I hate silly arguments like that. Irony aint that simple. I had no choice but to use the English language to air my views about moaning. It's like saying 'isin't hating hate ironic lol?!'. Nah, it's not.
I'm 21 and bloody teens annoy me
*shakes walking stick*
Teenagers are absoloute wankers. I suppose as a whole it's part of the package to be all self involved and full of your own sh*t when you are growing up but yeah. Myself and everyone I know hated who we were a few years ago now even though at the time we thought we were the bees knees and wouldn't accept any criticisms :joker:.
Weird thinking about it. Phases. Ugh.
Pyramid*
18-05-2011, 07:16 PM
Lol, but the difference is I always start with respect, you don't to earn it. You get these idiots who say that you have to earn respect and gain it, rather than starting with it and losing it.
I see what you mean, but I'm never rude to begin with. Like the guy in the shop, I said "hiya, how can I help" I get in return "do 3 of those". That's when all respect was lost.
Your view to respect...... I could not agree more with you. Respect is a common courtesy - do something to lose it, yes I am 100% behind you. This 'earn respect' doesn't wash with me either.
What I am saying is: you should not judge as each generation have their good and their bad.
I got a, and I quote
'You have to move so I can sit down'
Even if her eyesight wasnt too good, her attitude was horrid anyways. Respect goes both ways I'm afraid. I wont respect my elders if they talk to me like ****e :)
Errrr...... I was only saying there may have been other factors.:conf:
I also said that from what you had said, that she sounded like she was one of those cantankerous old buggars. :)
Vicky.
18-05-2011, 07:19 PM
Errrr...... I was only saying there may have been other factors.:conf:
I also said that from what you had said, that she sounded like she was one of those cantankerous old buggars. :)
I know, was just clarifying exactly what was said, went on a bit of a mini-rant there, sorry. But stuff like that makes me so angry :laugh:
I should just ignore it, but thats not me
Pyramid*
18-05-2011, 07:28 PM
I know, was just clarifying exactly what was said, went on a bit of a mini-rant there, sorry. But stuff like that makes me so angry :laugh:
I should just ignore it, but thats not me
We all get them...me, you, everyone: young and old. I'll never deny that - same with the ones that you hold a door open for, walk right past you without even an acknowledgment never mind thank you - I always usually say, "...And they say the younger generation have no manner" (and loud enough to pass any 'hearing' problems. !!!!
Then you get the wee 13 year old, who not only holds a door open for you, but insists on letting you pass first, with them following behind you which restores your faith !
james130
18-05-2011, 07:34 PM
I work at Next and it kills me when an old person comes in; usually tuts at me, then slams their items down on the counter. By this point all i've done is smile at them and say "hiya." :|
However, i'm 18 and go to my school's sixth form and look at some of the younger years and think "i'd have never been like that." I do think teenagers and kids are getting worse. But then maybe people thought that about me I suppose.
Pyramid*
18-05-2011, 07:40 PM
I work at Next and it kills me when an old person comes in; usually tuts at me, then slams their items down on the counter. By this point all i've done is smile at them and say "hiya." :|
However, i'm 18 and go to my school's sixth form and look at some of the younger years and think "i'd have never been like that." I do think teenagers and kids are getting worse. But then maybe people thought that about me I suppose.
Having been a teenager - and now older but not in the 'golden oldies' generation: I honestly can see both points of view. There are mannered and ill mannered from all sides........ just your luck of the draw in which ones we come across in life I guess!!!
As one sort of in the middle, I think I was never as bad as some teenagers today: but when I look back, I probably was and I know there were years that I gave my parents real heartache (and if I had kids who did what I did then, I'd bliddy kill them !!).:hugesmile:
Niall
18-05-2011, 09:20 PM
I think old people can be ridiculously rude. I was going to an exam today and i was standing on the bus and two old women decided to come and stand next to me (we were all standing in the wheelchair spot) and one of them decided to start harping on about how young people are rude and how we don't move out of the way for others on the bus. So I moved across the bus and she shut up. I just stared at her but I felt like grabbing her, opening the doors on the buss, and hurling her wrinkly ass out. :bored:
Pyramid*
18-05-2011, 09:29 PM
I think old people can be ridiculously rude. I was going to an exam today and i was standing on the bus and two old women decided to come and stand next to me (we were all standing in the wheelchair spot) and one of them decided to start harping on about how young people are rude and how we don't move out of the way for others on the bus. So I moved across the bus and she shut up. I just stared at her but I felt like grabbing her, opening the doors on the buss, and hurling her wrinkly ass out. :bored:
There are indeed (as Vicky encountered), older people who will go out of their way to do what you experienced.
The flip side is though: given that the older woman had to verbalise her thoughts to someone else on the bus, BEFORE you and your friends moved along out of the 'wheelchair space' and moved across the bus ...... it 'could' have been perceived that she shouldn't have needed to say anything, that you and your friends 'could have' moved across as more people were coming onto the bus - thus not giving her the need to moan.
I am not saying for one second you were wrong - there are miserable old sods out there, just as there are impudent young ones..... all I'm saying is sometimes we need to consider: there are sometimes (sometimes...not always) 3 sides to a story... his side, her side, and what really happened. :)
Niamh.
18-05-2011, 09:37 PM
I hate threads like this because everyones argument will invariably be useless. You meet a lot of ignorant older people. I see a lot of nice older people. I also meet a lot of wankers my own age.
Every age has it's wankers and I'm betting the numbers are about the same throughout the scale. Personal experience counts for nothing. I don't think it's something worth compaining about.
I walk past absoloute knob goblins who are 14 and 15 everyday but I wouldn't start a thread and have a moan about kids being ignorant. Some kids are ignorant.
yeah, I agree with this, people are individuals, lumping them into boxes based on their age or sex is inaccurate and unhelpful imo
BB_Eye
18-05-2011, 09:41 PM
I'd say a lot of the older generation have an 'attitude problem', lets put it that way.
As regards to how I feel, as a twentysomething, about teens today. Compared to my own generation, nothing much about them bothers me.
Niall
18-05-2011, 09:54 PM
There are indeed (as Vicky encountered), older people who will go out of their way to do what you experienced.
The flip side is though: given that the older woman had to verbalise her thoughts to someone else on the bus, BEFORE you and your friends moved along out of the 'wheelchair space' and moved across the bus ...... it 'could' have been perceived that she shouldn't have needed to say anything, that you and your friends 'could have' moved across as more people were coming onto the bus - thus not giving her the need to moan.
I am not saying for one second you were wrong - there are miserable old sods out there, just as there are impudent young ones..... all I'm saying is sometimes we need to consider: there are sometimes (sometimes...not always) 3 sides to a story... his side, her side, and what really happened. :)
I was actually the only person standing there. I thought this woman was really rude to be honest lmao. :laugh:
MeMyselfAndI
18-05-2011, 09:58 PM
All the old people i know are really nice, but they are my great aunties and grandad
'Conor
18-05-2011, 10:09 PM
i feel like im a villiain sometimes, the way older people look at me as if im gonna take a knife out and stab them its so irritating.
And the worst thing is they always think your always gonna steal something in a shop
Pyramid*
18-05-2011, 10:28 PM
I was actually the only person standing there. I thought this woman was really rude to be honest lmao. :laugh:
Hey.....that's a fact. Been there myself.
Keep your eye on the 'holding a door open'....... (as I said earlier: that's normally the one that you are left thinking, "aye, cheers pal")
Rude people are rude people. They don't have to be old or young. If someone is rude or impolite, just remind them of it - in a polite, respectful way.
Kindness and a smile goes a long way.
Toxic
18-05-2011, 10:56 PM
Yeah there is a lot of hostility I think, not helped when the Daily Mail & Sun etc. sensationalise things and go on about broken britain and knife crime and how dangerous teenagers are
I really dont think this generation is that much worse than any that has come before, things just get blown out of proportion more
I completely agree with this.
I also think that the older generation are almost scared of the younger generation, mainly because of the differences between us, especially the technology side. I also HATE when the younger generation are reffered to as the 'Twitter generation' - so patronising.
Niall
18-05-2011, 11:00 PM
Rude people are rude people. They don't have to be old or young. If someone is rude or impolite, just remind them of it - in a polite, respectful way.
Kindness and a smile goes a long way.
*Is always kinda & polite and smiles at people* It doesn't change things usually. :tongue:
joeysteele
18-05-2011, 11:05 PM
There's good and bad in all age groups but there is no excuse at all for bad manners, a please and thank you cost nothing and neither does a smile.
I smiled and grinned at three people this morning and got smiles and nods back. It's such a buzz to get one returned - yes, sometimes people don't notice or ignore it, but that's life.
Livia
26-05-2011, 01:15 PM
Every generation of teenagers think that they are a kind of “new breed”. Hormones rage, suddenly you’re classed as an adult and the world is a new place, full of opportunity and promise. You’re introduced to sex and think you’re the only generation who’s ever done it. You imagine that the older generation are totally out of touch with what’s happening and how the modern world is.
What teenagers generally fail to see is that everyone older than them has been a teenager, and despite changing technology, fashion and music, it’s pretty much the same now as when I was for previous generations. I remember what it was like to be a teenager, how unfair or was sometimes, how exciting and fresh everything was. I think the preconceptions are mainly on the part of the teenager many of whom consider anyone over 25 as past it. If you’re lucky, you’ll be older one day, and realise what a terribly short journey getting older is, and how the journey time gets shorter every year. On the plus side, when you do get older, you’ll realise you’ve only been dabbling in sex all this time and that like anything else, practise makes perfect. You’ll realise that you don’t feel any different inside than you felt when you were younger, and that you’re certainly none the wiser. The truth is that the older generation developed the technology you’re using, designed the clothes you’re wearing and produced the film and TV you watch. There isn’t such a divide between generations; the journey from cradle to grave really isn’t that long. But you have to get a bit older to understand that.
As for the miserable bloke who wanted a key cut… he’s obviously one of life’s rude, aggressive, miserable gits. There are lots of them around, and they aren’t all old.
I've been noticing this more and more over the past year and a half I've been working in a Traditional Hardware store, but today it came to a head after a older gentleman (around 65-70) was so unbelievably rude. Anyway, I'll just give you a bit of a back story.
I'm 16 years old, I'm a regular teenager, I don't get drunk, I tend not to swear, I'm not one of those stereotypical teenagers that hang round on street corners. I'm a hardworker and am going into the police next year (at 18-and-a-half).
However, when I'm working, the older generation come in and see a young guy behind the counter think it automatically gives them the right to lose all respect and manners. However, do they stop to think that their view and 'tarring all people with the same brush' may be wrong? Perhaps if they stop to think that not all teenagers are the same, pay the teenager some respect and manners, they might get them in return.
This particular gentleman who came in today wanted a key cut. He took one look at me and slammed his key on the counter and said "do three of those." I looked at him, and after some initial hesitation (I usually bite my tongue at work) I replied, "do I get a please with that?" Thankfully, my boss sided with me and everything was ok. I cut the three keys and continued to serve him at the till, and he replied with please and thank yous.
My questions are, as the general public, are we rude on the whole? Do old people tar the younger generation with the same brush and expect respect?
This man is a extremely rude and well done you to point that out. I'm not sure it was about his age or your age though, he might just have an attitude, whoever he's talking to. There are loads of bad mannered people of different ages, but for me, thankfully they are usually outnumbered by respectful, polite ones - young and old
Niamh.
26-05-2011, 03:17 PM
Every generation of teenagers think that they are a kind of “new breed”. Hormones rage, suddenly you’re classed as an adult and the world is a new place, full of opportunity and promise. You’re introduced to sex and think you’re the only generation who’s ever done it. You imagine that the older generation are totally out of touch with what’s happening and how the modern world is.
What teenagers generally fail to see is that everyone older than them has been a teenager, and despite changing technology, fashion and music, it’s pretty much the same now as when I was for previous generations. I remember what it was like to be a teenager, how unfair or was sometimes, how exciting and fresh everything was. I think the preconceptions are mainly on the part of the teenager many of whom consider anyone over 25 as past it. If you’re lucky, you’ll be older one day, and realise what a terribly short journey getting older is, and how the journey time gets shorter every year. On the plus side, when you do get older, you’ll realise you’ve only been dabbling in sex all this time and that like anything else, practise makes perfect. You’ll realise that you don’t feel any different inside than you felt when you were younger, and that you’re certainly none the wiser. The truth is that the older generation developed the technology you’re using, designed the clothes you’re wearing and produced the film and TV you watch. There isn’t such a divide between generations; the journey from cradle to grave really isn’t that long. But you have to get a bit older to understand that.
As for the miserable bloke who wanted a key cut… he’s obviously one of life’s rude, aggressive, miserable gits. There are lots of them around, and they aren’t all old.
That's a great post and so true!
my generation used to run and get a chase from coppers,
now the kids just stand there and stab or shoot the coppers
joeysteele
26-05-2011, 03:23 PM
Every generation of teenagers think that they are a kind of “new breed”. Hormones rage, suddenly you’re classed as an adult and the world is a new place, full of opportunity and promise. You’re introduced to sex and think you’re the only generation who’s ever done it. You imagine that the older generation are totally out of touch with what’s happening and how the modern world is.
What teenagers generally fail to see is that everyone older than them has been a teenager, and despite changing technology, fashion and music, it’s pretty much the same now as when I was for previous generations. I remember what it was like to be a teenager, how unfair or was sometimes, how exciting and fresh everything was. I think the preconceptions are mainly on the part of the teenager many of whom consider anyone over 25 as past it. If you’re lucky, you’ll be older one day, and realise what a terribly short journey getting older is, and how the journey time gets shorter every year. On the plus side, when you do get older, you’ll realise you’ve only been dabbling in sex all this time and that like anything else, practise makes perfect. You’ll realise that you don’t feel any different inside than you felt when you were younger, and that you’re certainly none the wiser. The truth is that the older generation developed the technology you’re using, designed the clothes you’re wearing and produced the film and TV you watch. There isn’t such a divide between generations; the journey from cradle to grave really isn’t that long. But you have to get a bit older to understand that.
As for the miserable bloke who wanted a key cut… he’s obviously one of life’s rude, aggressive, miserable gits. There are lots of them around, and they aren’t all old.
Absolutely first rate post, amazing insight and completely reasoned. I am 19 but agree with all you say. Excellent post Livia.
my generation used to run and get a chase from coppers,
now the kids just stand there and stab or shoot the coppers
That's actually almost true.. If we were up to no good as teenagers, we'd do a runner if the police were on the prowl (mainly because my mum would have killed me had I been taken home by the feds!)
I saw th police approach a gang of neds one night and they go nothing but a lot of cheek!
Judas
06-06-2011, 01:52 AM
It's been the same for generations, I think the perceptions are no worse than that of the past.
arista
07-06-2011, 05:02 PM
It's been the same for generations, I think the perceptions are no worse than that of the past.
Fair Point
Spunky Judas
ElProximo
08-06-2011, 06:12 AM
Perhaps if they stop to think that not all teenagers are the same, pay the teenager some respect and manners, they might get them in return.
.... I looked at him, and after some initial hesitation (I usually bite my tongue at work) I replied, "do I get a please with that?"
I want you to look at what you wrote here ^
What you don't know is that is exactly why older people complain of the breakdown of propriety and consider teenagers insolent disrespectful etc.
What?
The thing is. You don't understand that in his day it was UNHEARD OF that the boy would DARE to say to an older man "do i get a please?"
NO
Its like this. Yes, it would be nice if he gave you a 'please' and 'thank you'. Agreed.
However,
The rule was that you DO NOT deserve it and further more even if you didn't get it then you have NO RIGHT to challenge him for it like you were equals.
In fact, in the olde days your boss (and me) would still agree he was a cranky old man,
however,
YOU would not get the right. You would not have a say. You have no place to ask for it,
and,
making a passive-aggressive vindictive woman comment like 'hmmph.. do i get a please?' would actually get you slapped upside the head BY YOUR BOSS.
and a customer.
and the man in question.
And then asked who the hell you think you are?
You don't understand any of this. I'm sure its just reading 'nonsense' to your mind.
And I think that might be the point after all. You actually have no idea why what I told you could have ever made 'sense' or should be obvious.
........
I'm someone in the middle. The disrespect thing started around my age group. Its much worse now.
I actually just saw an online video where a young guy (maybe 22) was getting told off by a rude old guy (maybe 55-65).
To MY HORROR the young guy then 'fought' the old guy. Started punching him!
Like the old man was just another guy he should fight. Actually even worse he did 'UFC' ****. (we used to say this was shameful).
I mean... I'm not THAT old.. this is just a few .. say 10 years ago you would NEVER SEE THAT!
I mean we NEVER THOUGHT OF SUCH A THING!
This would NEVER ENTER OUR MINDS!
The dirtiest, ****tiest, sneaky bully... the guy notorious for picking fights with weaker people in our day... would NEVER NEVER NEVER strike an old man!
No matter. If the old man was in the wrong, punching us.. NEVER would you even THINK of 'fighting' the old man like that.
I'm serious. The society is ****ing degenerating. The reason it can't be reversed is actually because youth DON"T KNOW any different anyways. They don't know what they are doing is disgusting low degrading immoral and wrong.
To them its 'life in the UK'. and 'how it is'.
The beginning of the end.
Smithy
08-06-2011, 12:47 PM
why does he type like that, it's like a more annoying version of arista
It's very picturesque. It's like an exact visual representation of the rabbling, drool faced looning his probably doing as he types.
arista
08-06-2011, 02:37 PM
why does he type like that, it's like a more annoying version of arista
Yes the Caps Parts is his Extreme Anger at it all.
Life In The City.
Vicky.
08-06-2011, 03:22 PM
I want you to look at what you wrote here ^
What you don't know is that is exactly why older people complain of the breakdown of propriety and consider teenagers insolent disrespectful etc.
Why...because the younger generation want a bit of respect too?
How terrible
Pyramid*
08-06-2011, 06:44 PM
Every generation of teenagers think that they are a kind of “new breed”. Hormones rage, suddenly you’re classed as an adult and the world is a new place, full of opportunity and promise. You’re introduced to sex and think you’re the only generation who’s ever done it. You imagine that the older generation are totally out of touch with what’s happening and how the modern world is.
What teenagers generally fail to see is that everyone older than them has been a teenager, and despite changing technology, fashion and music, it’s pretty much the same now as when I was for previous generations. I remember what it was like to be a teenager, how unfair or was sometimes, how exciting and fresh everything was. I think the preconceptions are mainly on the part of the teenager many of whom consider anyone over 25 as past it. If you’re lucky, you’ll be older one day, and realise what a terribly short journey getting older is, and how the journey time gets shorter every year. On the plus side, when you do get older, you’ll realise you’ve only been dabbling in sex all this time and that like anything else, practise makes perfect. You’ll realise that you don’t feel any different inside than you felt when you were younger, and that you’re certainly none the wiser. The truth is that the older generation developed the technology you’re using, designed the clothes you’re wearing and produced the film and TV you watch. There isn’t such a divide between generations; the journey from cradle to grave really isn’t that long. But you have to get a bit older to understand that.
As for the miserable bloke who wanted a key cut… he’s obviously one of life’s rude, aggressive, miserable gits. There are lots of them around, and they aren’t all old.
Probably the most intelligent, truthful and articulate post I have read since I joined Tibbs.
Spot on, absolutely spot on. *Applauds*
ElProximo
09-06-2011, 06:19 AM
Why...because the younger generation want a bit of respect too?
How terrible
It's more that they believe they deserve it. How terrible you can't see that. Then again, your part of the problem.
ElProximo
09-06-2011, 06:20 AM
Yes the Caps Parts is his Extreme Anger at it all.
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No. Its to help you. It's my gift to you. Allowing you a benefit by telling you this is the part where you should pay attention and learn to think.
Vicky.
09-06-2011, 06:24 AM
It's more that they believe they deserve it. How terrible you can't see that. Then again, your part of the problem.
Lovely
Claymores
09-06-2011, 07:05 AM
I'd say a lot of the older generation have an 'attitude problem', lets put it that way.
As regards to how I feel, as a twentysomething, about teens today. Compared to my own generation, nothing much about them bothers me.
As an oldy bloke - the thing that bothers me with teenies is that they say the had 'sexy time' online with whoever - what???? You sat in your bedroom alone with some stranger online who could have been a 59 year old peodophile and gave out your location? Get a real life before you make relationships - learn the pitfalls of people before venuring into online territory.
Claymores
09-06-2011, 07:14 AM
I can be honestly hated here but I can also be Samantha G on facebook for a giggle to wind kids up - I was tempted to become Sweety Samy or Gavin here.
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