shahbaz thinks glyn is homophobic, your thoughts?

[Kore]

i honestly felt a little sorry for the guy.. a 37 yr old man touching him is bound to get glyn a little creeped. i think glyn tried to tell shahbaz in the nicest way he didnt want him to touch him.. but shahbaz hardly let him speak and just played the 'homophobic' card alot...

glyn is the weakest member of the house.. and shahbaz took advantage of that tonight IMO :bored:

[THE_JUNK_MAN]

I dont he is, I just think he does not like being touched by males...I would be the same.

[Lauren]

I feel VERY sorry for Glyn.
It's exactly like Dawn said. If a 37 year old man was touching an 18 year old girl and she voiced that she felt uncomfortable and he said "I'm still going to do it" - he'd be considered a pervert!

It seems like Shahbaz is using the fact he's gay to accuse anyone of being homophobic. And even Richard could see he's using the "I'm gay" card too much, like in the iary room when he voted for Richard to be in the Big Brotherhood with the words "We gays need to stick together" - Richard was geniunely cringing.

[Mike]

I think Glyn had every right to say something - Shahbaz doesn't need to keep touching him all the time, even though Glyn was nice about it Shaz still kept trying to take it the wrong way.

[bangers_1]

i think glyn handled him quite well

if i was in his position, i woulda whacked the ****

*Edited for swearing. :nono:* Kaz

[Kaz]

Originally posted by Blanket&Crib
I feel VERY sorry for Glyn.
It's exactly like Dawn said. If a 37 year old man was touching an 18 year old girl and she voiced that she felt uncomfortable and he said "I'm still going to do it" - he'd be considered a pervert!

It seems like Shahbaz is using the fact he's gay to accuse anyone of being homophobic. And even Richard could see he's using the "I'm gay" card too much, like in the iary room when he voted for Richard to be in the Big Brotherhood with the words "We gays need to stick together" - Richard was geniunely cringing.

Agree completely. :thumbs: Shahbaz creeps me out completely with his 'come here and give me a hug' and constant pawing and stroking of all the housemates. :rolleyes:

Poor Glyn ......... :sad:

[BB-Rocks]

Glyn has the right to tell him not to touch him.

Shabaz i wont stop touching you but its the fact that Shazbaz strokes peoples arms and stuff and that would freak me out gay or straight bloke.

He said i wont stop touching you so in a way its harassment

[BigSister]

I agree totally and Dawn was right. Dawn has gone up tonight and so has Glyn. Oh and hiya Kaz:wavey:

[Mike]

Dawn was great the way she stuck up for Glyn - can't believe how different she has been from her video, in my opinion she is one of the nicest in there as a person, shes the one all the housemates love.

[Kaz]

:wavey:, BigSis!

Enjoying it so far? I am! :hello:

Feel sorry for poor wee Glyn just now ............ want to give him a big hug. :laugh:

[BigSister]

same here Kaz bless him
Yeah tonight was the first show I watched properly and thought it was good

[steve_o]

Think Glyn did a good job tonight putting that Shabby in his place without resorting to knocking the pillock out :puzzled:

[THE_JUNK_MAN]

yeah Dawn was good to stick up for him....I now see Dawn in a better light.

[Kore]

glyn was actually talking in this episode! heehee :bigsmile: weyhey

[BB-Rocks]

First time for everything:eureka:

[Dan_]

And we all thought Craig Coates was bad, this Shabaz creep takes things to a whole new lower level. I would feel as uncomfortable as Glyn did, it's not just being tactile it's creepy and perverse. Dawn has really gone up in my estimations after the way she spoke out and Glyn was brave to confront Shebang's, God I wish he could be nominated.

[Romantic Old Bird]

I think Glyn just isn't mature enough to handle tje whole touchy feely thing.

I feel for the little chap.

Plus, sorry to say, Shazbaz is EXTREMELY annoying

[BigSister]

:laugh: Shebangs Dan where did you get that from

[Dan_]

His name just makes me think of that Ricky Martin song :tongue:

[BigSister]

right ok..... very random dan:angel:

[Warmtoe]

Shahbaz is a (homo)sexual predator - he said as much himself.

I think he sees Glyn as prey.

Glyn has definitely gone up in my estimation, trying to deal with the situation would have been tough, but he went for it.

Shahbaz is soooooo out of there!

[GlitterEyes]

I think shahbaz is out of order touching everyone, They should all take a leaf out of Dawns book and brush him away at the slightest touch. I reallu feel sorry for Glyn and even when he tried talking about it shahbaz was unfair. I thought it was brave for an 18 year old lad to bring it up in convosation and handle it the way he did. Most 18 year olds would of flattened him if they were not on tv lol.

However in saying this I think Glyn could be bi sexual...the reasons being he seems to take his top off alot around shahbaz and when he was revealing all Glyn stuck around. I also think that Glyn might not be very experienced with girls and he seems a bit shy.

[InTheHood]

I wouldn't want to be touched my any man, and Glyn has that right too.

[GlitterEyes]

He needs to distance himself from him then I think and make sure he doesn't hug him one minute and complain the next.

[InTheHood]

Yup, gotta lay down the ground rules, and then not go an hug Sezer :blush2:

[stella]

Glyn did actually say to Shabaz i dont like being touched by any man gay or not but i think it went in one ear and out the other.....Shabaz should of respected Glyns wishes and said fair enough im sorry you felt that way it wont happen again but noooo shabaz had to be defiant and say im goin to carry on touching you. Theres just no getting through to the man...I know if he was like that with me id lamp him

[GlitterEyes]

Lol plus like Dawn said if it was a girl people would be going mad.

[CharlotteSometimes]

Originally posted by Romantic Old Bird

I feel for the little chap.

Let's just hope for Glyn’s sake that Shahbaz doesn't go quite as far.

I have to agree with pretty much everything that's been said here so far. And Shahbaz is quite probably the most annoying hm we've ever seen. Little wonder he has to cruise to get himself some action, because the moment he strikes up a conversation, any sane man would run for the hills.

Glyn has every right to tell Shahbaz to back off, of course. But that said, he was blatantly homophobic when discussing the issue in the diary room. And he's a wimp too, because he just let Shahbaz walk all over him and twist their conversation to ludicrous extremes. The fact that he's only 18 is irrelevant. He knew that going into a house full of strangers was likely to lead to a confrontation or two, so to bottle it from a situation he supposedly thought so important as easily as that is really quite sad.

[abs]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Originally posted by Romantic Old Bird

I feel for the little chap.

Let's just hope for Glyn’s sake that Shahbaz doesn't go quite as far.

I have to agree with pretty much everything that's been said here so far. And Shahbaz is quite probably the most annoying hm we've ever seen. Little wonder he has to cruise to get himself some action, because the moment he strikes up a conversation, any sane man would run for the hills.

see, i would have put shabaz on his back by now! he would learn fast not to touch me again...

Glyn has every right to tell Shahbaz to back off, of course. But that said, he was blatantly homophobic when discussing the issue in the diary room. And he's a wimp too, because he just let Shahbaz walk all over him and twist their conversation to ludicrous extremes. The fact that he's only 18 is irrelevant. He knew that going into a house full of strangers was likely to lead to a confrontation or two, so to bottle it from a situation he supposedly thought so important as easily as that is really quite sad.

[abs]

oops, sorry.

yes CharlotteSometimes, totally agree. if that was me in there the 1st time he would have touched me would have been his last! & if he still carried on after me telling him i would have put him on his back! he would learn fast afterwards...

[Ruth]

Glyn seems quite innocent and naive and I'm guessing he has never met anyone like Shahbaz before. I thought Shahbaz was out of order (bearing in mind that the five minutes where they were having that conversation is the only bit I have watched of BB all weekend). As Dawn said, if a 37 year old man was touching an 18 year old girl, and she asked him to back off, he would be considered completely out of order if he said "well I'm just going to carry on touching you."

Is Shahbaz going to play the homophobia card every time time someone disagrees with him about anything?

[Sunny_01]

I am not a fan of Glyn in general but that said I really feel for the fella. I dont like being touched by people unless I invite it and can totally understand where he is coming from.

I really think that BB should step in and tell Shabaz that he is not to harass this little fella anymore. To say I am going to keep on touching you is dreadful and you can be sure that had it been a girl he had said it to they would have called him in and told him to back off!

Glyn is just a young lad and yes he chose to put himself in the house but I doubt he chose to be preyed upon by the likes of Shabaz!

[James]

Shahbaz reminds me a bit of Penny from BB2 who was also very tactile, demanding hugs and kisses off of people.

She also had a troubled past.

[shroko]

For his age Glyn handled the situation very well. Shahbaz was so patronising. I really hate it when people do that, No one was said anything about Richard being gay, cause no one cares, yet Shahbaz has to keep bringing it up, " it is cause i'm gay", "is it cause i'm gay", i would reply. "No it's cause your a ******ing w***er!!!!!!!!!!!"

[hass]

personally i wudnt want shahbaz touching me. i knew that when Glyn confronted him about touchin him that shabhaz was goung to turn it around and make out that he was homophobic. i would of just told him straight up, dont touch me!! hes been in the house 4 days and hes touching people. and i agree with what Dawn said, that if it was a straight man of his age touching a young girl, he would be labeled as a pervert!

yer i agree shroko but i would of said "yes it is because u are gay, im not, go and touch up rcichard not me". cant stand him!

Edited by Sunny_01 - swearing is not allowed on this forum

[bananarama]

It is arrogant of Shahbaz to think he has a right to touch anyone just because it pleases him.

Glyn is entitled like anyone else to his own personal space and only invite those in that please him.

I too think Glyn is to young and boyish to handle a predator like Shahbaz in the manor thet predators should be dealt wth.

My first impression of Shahbaz was that I liked him but now I am turning very much against because of his arrogance. He needs to calm down and respect others feelings and sexuality. Just because he likes to be touchy feely with males does not mean other males gay or not will allow the same.

Richard sems a nice sensible bloke and if anyone can put Shahbaz in his place he can......

[sol]

Originally posted by bananarama
It is arrogant of Shahbaz to think he has a right to touch anyone just because it pleases him.

Glyn is entitled like anyone else to his own personal space and only invite those in that please him.

I too think Glyn is to young and boyish to handle a predator like Shahbaz in the manor thet predators should be dealt wth.

My first impression of Shahbaz was that I liked him but now I am turning very much against because of his arrogance. He needs to calm down and respect others feelings and sexuality. Just because he likes to be touchy feely with males does not mean other males gay or not will allow the same.

Richard sems a nice sensible bloke and if anyone can put Shahbaz in his place he can......

Yeah, I agree totally - Why does Shahbaz think he has the right to touch people consistently when he thinks he will - against peoples will?

[texbex]

I dont think he is homophobic they have only been in there 2 mins and he is accusing things already I think I would become homophobic too haveing sum1 lyk shabaz in the house with me not saying I am by the way!!

[Bubs]

I basically agree with everything said!! Shabaz is out of line to think he has some kind of right to touch people!! It has already been said everyone is entitled to there own personal space and unless invited people should respect everyone's private space.
It is absouloutely redicilous to play the "cause I am gay card" if someone does not feel it neccessary or appropriate to be rubbed/stroked/ hugged all the time by someone they don't know at all well yet!!

I am not keen on Glyn but as he is yound and I will say this without sounding as patronising as Shabaz did he has clearly led a sheltered life and not experienced many if any people like Shabaz before I don't mean as in gay I mean more as in the extrovortness type qualities that Shabaz seems to carry.
Having said that I felt he did the best he did anyhow and while still clearly uncomfortable tried his best to describe his reasons although if there is another thing I hate in a debate is when someone saids "can I talk" and when they have finished they still continue to talk over and not let the other have there say!!
Shabaz was doing this during this discussion which annoys me talk about double standards!!

[Fangz]

Although the way Glyn worded his complaint made him sound homophobic, it could just be awkward wording. Whatever his view on homosexuality, it is every human-being's basic right to have a say in who touches their body, and in what way they touch it. The bodily contact in rugby and other contact sports is put in a completely different context to continually stroking someone's arm, let alone someone you barely know.

[uberd0g]

I have a couple of gay friends and they (obviously) accept that touching me in a sexual manner is out of order and would result in fisticuffs.
It's sexual harassment, plain and simple.

[James]

Just bringing up this thread to say...

when Sezer was trying to hug Imogen with his clothes off isn't that similar to this?

Maybe Imogen allows him, I don't know?

[Juelz]

Just bringing up this thread to say...

when Sezer was trying to hug Imogen with his clothes off isn't that similar to this?

Maybe Imogen allows him, I don't know?
nah because maybe imogen is intereested and is close his age and finds him quite nice...
and is also str8.... and its also a flirty touch between 2 str8 ppl

glyn and shabaz is TOTALLY different^^

anyway..

no its not homophobic he just doesnt like it...i know i wouldnt and i know alot of ppl wudnt....he just spoke his mind most men would think the same but just not say it probly

[Romantic Old Bird]

Good point James. Sezer is walking a tightrope with his behaviour. Almost sad in it's transparency really. He demands and craves attention, mostly lady attention, but willing to accept any. However, I'm guessing his incredibly intimate behaviour isn't entirely unwelcome, or things would have been said by now.

Shazbaz however is firmly into stalker-freaky-psycho territory in his behaviour and limpet like behaviour.

The guy craves attention like Dracula needs blood. He has some very serious issues to deal with, not the least being that his emotional development is still firmly in the egotistical stage of the toddler.

I fear for him if there isn't a fairly dramatic change soon

[Juelz]

yea shabaz is gettin outta control, and bad thing is we kno we got him til at least another 2 weeks...

hes gotta change sooner or later, or just walk out