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Liberty4eva
21-06-2011, 12:50 AM
Which came first: the chicken or the egg?

Jordan.
21-06-2011, 12:53 AM
The chicken evolved from this:

http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/papo_velociraptor_dinosaur_toys.jpg

proven fact

Kerry
21-06-2011, 01:08 AM
Chicken omelette

Patrick
21-06-2011, 01:09 AM
The chicken evolved from this:

http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/papo_velociraptor_dinosaur_toys.jpg

proven fact

A Toy Dinosaur rofl.

Josy
21-06-2011, 01:13 AM
Chicken obviously, C comes before E in the alphabet :laugh:

Seriously though, I think it was the egg.

Shasown
21-06-2011, 01:15 AM
The egg

Jords
21-06-2011, 01:15 AM
Egg.

Some bird close to the chicken laid an egg which genes had a mutation to produce the modern day chicken :tongue:

-my theory anyway-

Shasown
21-06-2011, 01:18 AM
Egg.

Some bird close to the chicken laid an egg which genes had a mutation to produce the modern day chicken :tongue:

-my theory anyway-

Fully concur, eggs easier to be evolved into whereas a chicken is a higher form of life. And chickens will still be evolving and changing. Plus fosillised eggs have been found from earlier reptiles and animals which predate the modern chicken.

lostalex
21-06-2011, 02:40 AM
The egg came first. Plenty of species had eggs before chickens evolved. So obviously eggs came LONG before chickens or chicken eggs.

It would be a more interesting question if you asked "which came first, the chicken or the chicken egg?"

ILoveTRW
21-06-2011, 12:15 PM
The Egg because a chicken is only a chicken if it hatched from an egg

joeysteele
21-06-2011, 06:47 PM
I've chosen Chicken but I get really so involved thinking on this question whenever it comes up, I drive myself and others crazy.

Pyramid*
21-06-2011, 07:11 PM
The Egg because a chicken is only a chicken if it hatched from an egg

I suppose a chicken is only a chicken if it hatched from a chicken egg. Which means you'd need the chicken to exist first for it to lay a chicken egg. If it hatched from another type of egg - ie: turtle, it wouldn't be a chicken !!


PMSL. :joker:

I go for egg - and dependant on the species that evolved /mutated - therein the type of creature/animal/bird came to exist.

Patrick
21-06-2011, 07:14 PM
Egg.

Some bird close to the chicken laid an egg which genes had a mutation to produce the modern day chicken :tongue:

-my theory anyway-

How could the bird lay an egg close to a chicken and then come first? ;)

Pyramid*
21-06-2011, 07:18 PM
How could the bird lay an egg close to a chicken and then come first? ;)

I take it you do realise that they meant 'close to' - meaning similar in genes - as opposed to 'close by'.

;)

patsylimerick
21-06-2011, 08:52 PM
:joker:

Apparently scientists have (sorry :blush:) 'cracked' it.

Growing a good egg: Metadynamics simulations show that the eggshell protein ovocleidin-17 induces the formation of calcite crystals from amorphous calcium carbonate nanoparticles. Multiple spontaneous crystallization and amorphization events were simulated; these simulations suggest a catalytic cycle that explains the role of ovocleidin-17 in the first stages of eggshell formation.

Now, the protein ovocleidin-17 is found within the bird's ovaries and therefore, there cannot be an egg without there first being a bird. So the chicken (or something like it) evolved and then established this protein which allowed it to produce eggs.

qed :joker:

tmi
22-06-2011, 09:42 AM
:joker:

Apparently scientists have (sorry :blush:) 'cracked' it.

Growing a good egg: Metadynamics simulations show that the eggshell protein ovocleidin-17 induces the formation of calcite crystals from amorphous calcium carbonate nanoparticles. Multiple spontaneous crystallization and amorphization events were simulated; these simulations suggest a catalytic cycle that explains the role of ovocleidin-17 in the first stages of eggshell formation.

Now, the protein ovocleidin-17 is found within the bird's ovaries and therefore, there cannot be an egg without there first being a bird. So the chicken (or something like it) evolved and then established this protein which allowed it to produce eggs.



qed :joker:


I think it was egg:xyxwave:

Pyramid*
22-06-2011, 08:40 PM
:joker:

Apparently scientists have (sorry :blush:) 'cracked' it.

Growing a good egg: Metadynamics simulations show that the eggshell protein ovocleidin-17 induces the formation of calcite crystals from amorphous calcium carbonate nanoparticles. Multiple spontaneous crystallization and amorphization events were simulated; these simulations suggest a catalytic cycle that explains the role of ovocleidin-17 in the first stages of eggshell formation.

Now, the protein ovocleidin-17 is found within the bird's ovaries and therefore, there cannot be an egg without there first being a bird. So the chicken (or something like it) evolved and then established this protein which allowed it to produce eggs.

qed :joker:
Pats...if I wasn't straight... I would say I loved you !! :joker:

Grimnir
27-06-2011, 05:42 AM
the egg came first

back when the chicken's ancestor had the first mutant egg baby with 2 heads

lostalex
28-06-2011, 01:25 AM
which came first, the conspiracy or the conspiracy theory?