Disturbed by a crying baby at the next table.

[arista]

Father smashed wine bottle over diner's head for complaining that his baby would not stop crying

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He Snapped as his own child would not stop crying.


The mother should have left the cafe with her baby
for a while.



Good he got prison

[Jordan.]

Why are there so many outright ***** in the world, theres no woner I generally hate most people.

[arista]

Why are there so many outright ***** in the world, theres no woner I generally hate most people.


A Baby Crying
is a Danger level in a public place.


He is a young parent
and still learning in life.



The best way , in future,
is the mother and crying baby , leave , for a while

[Niamh.]

Father smashed wine bottle over diner's head for complaining that his baby would not stop crying

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He Snapped as his own child would not stop crying.


The mother should have left the cafe with her baby
for a while.



Good he got prison

The mother didn't sound much better though tbh. Why the hell would you bring a baby out at 10 O' Clock at night anyway, it should have been at home in bed.

[arista]

The mother didn't sound much better though tbh. Why the hell would you bring a baby out at 10 O' Clock at night anyway, it should have been at home in bed.

No thats ok it may have been the only time she could eat out.

But a crying baby is bad news
she could have left the room
sort the baby out.

[Benjamin]

I HATE when children cry in a restaurant. Fair enough they cry, but take them outside or somewhere else whilst I'm trying to eat. I haven't come out to hear people's annoying children. I actually ask people in the place I work to step outside with their kid if it cries for too long.

[Niamh.]

No thats ok it may have been the only time she could eat out.

But a crying baby is bad news
she could have left the room
sort the baby out.

she could have but instead she shook the baby and said It's a Baby. So, she obviously didn't give a crap. And it's not ok imo 10 O'Clock is too late, the baby was obviously distressed, she should have ate at home.

[Patrick]

Can't stand when that happens - you're out trying to have a nice meal, it's bad enough you have to put up with your family acting like they like eachother, then you have some yappy little brat at the next table crying for an hour.

Drives me up the ******ing wall - that's what iPods are made for though.

Yesterday I was in McDonalds for the first time in years, I was forced to go in with everyone after school because KFC's line was to big.

So we are sitting at a table, just being cool - and there was literally about 11 Babies and Kids crying and running about like wankers.

I literally shouted 'SINCE WHEN WAS THIS A ******ING DAY CARE CENTRE!' and my mates were like ':bored: Let's hurry up and leave.'

And then one of the girls slipped and fell and banged her head of the stair, serves her ******ing right.

I laughed and walked away x.

[Benjamin]

Can't stand when that happens - you're out trying to have a nice meal, it's bad enough you have to put up with your family acting like they like eachother, then you have some yappy little brat at the next table crying for an hour.

Drives me up the ******ing wall - that's what iPods are made for though.

Yesterday I was in McDonalds for the first time in years, I was forced to go in with everyone after school because KFC's line was to big.

So we are sitting at a table, just being cool - and there was literally about 11 Babies and Kids crying and running about like wankers.

I literally shouted 'SINCE WHEN WAS THIS A ******ING DAY CARE CENTRE!' and my mates were like ':bored: Let's hurry up and leave.'

And then one of the girls slipped and fell and banged her head of the stair, serves her ******ing right.

I laughed and walked away x.

I use that line a lot at work. In fact I used it on Sunday when I had a table with 4 children who were running around and climbing on the other tables. I asked the mother nicely to make them sit down and she got all annoyed at me, so I got my strict side out and snapped back and told her this was a restaurant not a personal playground. She looked stunned and made her kids sit down. The rest of my tables all smiled at me and thanked me. :hugesmile:

[Niamh.]

I use that line a lot at work. In fact I used it on Sunday when I had a table with 4 children who were running around and climbing on the other tables. I asked the mother nicely to make them sit down and she got all annoyed at me, so I got my strict side out and snapped back and told her this was a restaurant not a personal playground. She looked stunned and made her kids sit down. The rest of my tables all smiled at me and thanked me. :hugesmile:

It comes down to parenting at the end of the day, some people just let their kids do whatever they want cos it's to much effort to keep them in line. There's absolutely no consideration for the other people in the restaurant, parents should be teaching their kids how to behave in restaurants and if they can't be bothered then they shouldn't bring them. Obviously, that doesn't apply to babies but like I said having a baby out at 10pm when it was obviously tired as it was crying for so long is selfish.

[Niall]

This reminds me - anyone, and mean ANYONE that brings a baby onto a plane should be fined. I went to Florida once and there was a ****ing baby crying the whole bloody way. I wanted to slap the parents for bringing it onto the plane.

Usually I love little kids but that really pissed me off to maximum. :bored:

[Niamh.]

This reminds me - anyone, and mean ANYONE that brings a baby onto a plane should be fined. I went to Florida once and there was a ****ing baby crying the whole bloody way. I wanted to slap the parents for bringing it onto the plane.

Usually I love little kids but that really pissed me off to maximum. :bored:

Now that isn't very fair, there's not a whole lot a parent can do on a plane. You know yourself your ears feel funny etc and it's only a baby :nono: I have alot of sympathy for parents travelling with babies

[Benjamin]

It comes down to parenting at the end of the day, some people just let their kids do whatever they want cos it's to much effort to keep them in line. There's absolutely no consideration for the other people in the restaurant, parents should be teaching their kids how to behave in restaurants and if they can't be bothered then they shouldn't bring them. Obviously, that doesn't apply to babies but like I said having a baby out at 10pm when it was obviously tired as it was crying for so long is selfish.

Hmm, I don't know about the baby should be asleep at 10PM as babies have a very different sleeping pattern. But still they should have taken the baby to another part of the building and tried to stop it from crying in respect to the other diners.

Unfortunately about 40% of the British population haven't got any dining or social etiquette.

[CharlieO]

I hate when this happens, but doesn't happen that often over here.

It can ruin a nice dinner though.

[Niamh.]

Hmm, I don't know about the baby should be asleep at 10PM as babies have a very different sleeping pattern. But still they should have taken the baby to another part of the building and tried to stop it from crying in respect to the other diners.

Unfortunately about 40% of the British population haven't got any dining or social etiquette.

Well, there's two reasons I said that, first the baby was crying so much it was obviously distressed about something, most babies only cry if they're tired, hungry or need changing. Secondly, as with pubs I think restaurants should have a cut off point in the evening for children under a certain age (for the benefit of it's other customers)

[Benjamin]

Well, there's two reasons I said that, first the baby was crying so much it was obviously distressed about something, most babies only cry if they're tired, hungry or need changing. Secondly, as with pubs I think restaurants should have a cut off point in the evening for children under a certain age (for the benefit of it's other customers)

Oh yeah, I agree the baby was distressed with something. And yeah, I agree with the time restriction on children after a certain point.

[Niall]

Now that isn't very fair, there's not a whole lot a parent can do on a plane. You know yourself your ears feel funny etc and it's only a baby :nono: I have alot of sympathy for parents travelling with babies

I have no sympathy. They know the baby is gonna cry anyway so they bring it and ruin everyone else's journey. If it was a toddler I wouldn't mind because they're easier to deal with and you can distract them from the whole travelling experience with a film or something. But babies cry the whole way. :sad:

I accept I was exaggerating the fine thing but I just wish parents would wait until the kid's grown up a little before bringing it on a plane. :bored: (That said when I have a kid I'll probably take it on a plane when its a baby when I'm older but meh. :laugh:)

[Niamh.]

Oh yeah, I agree the baby was distressed with something. And yeah, I agree with the time restriction on children after a certain point.

even if it was an under 10 restriction I think, you'd know better than me but I'd imagine that most of the issues are with younger kids and babies?

[joeysteele]

I don't mind at all a baby crying, it is after all the only way a Baby can let you know something's wrong or the Baby needs something, maybe changing or feeding.

What does annoy me are parents that 'never' seem to check those things and let the Baby cry.
I'd rather many times be hearing a Baby cry than some daft Adults yapping, when I am anywhere.

[Niamh.]

I have no sympathy. They know the baby is gonna cry anyway so they bring it and ruin everyone else's journey. If it was a toddler I wouldn't mind because they're easier to deal with and you can distract them from the whole travelling experience with a film or something. But babies cry the whole way. :sad:

I accept I was exaggerating the fine thing but I just wish parents would wait until the kid's grown up a little before bringing it on a plane. :bored: (That said when I have a kid I'll probably take it on a plane when its a baby when I'm older but meh. :laugh:)

Don't be ridiculous, you're saying people shouldn't be allowed bring babies on planes now? and alot of babies just sleep all the way through flights.

[CharlieO]

I have no sympathy. They know the baby is gonna cry anyway so they bring it and ruin everyone else's journey. If it was a toddler I wouldn't mind because they're easier to deal with and you can distract them from the whole travelling experience with a film or something. But babies cry the whole way. :sad:

I accept I was exaggerating the fine thing but I just wish parents would wait until the kid's grown up a little before bringing it on a plane. :bored: (That said when I have a kid I'll probably take it on a plane when its a baby when I'm older but meh. :laugh:)

Niall im sure parents don't just bring babies on planes to annoy others, they actually have a destination they need to be. What is a parent supposed to do leave the baby home alone?

[Niall]

Ugh idk but it really annoys me. :sad:

Okay I've made myself look like an ass. I'll leave the thread now. I admit defeat.

[Benjamin]

I have no sympathy. They know the baby is gonna cry anyway so they bring it and ruin everyone else's journey. If it was a toddler I wouldn't mind because they're easier to deal with and you can distract them from the whole travelling experience with a film or something. But babies cry the whole way. :sad:

I accept I was exaggerating the fine thing but I just wish parents would wait until the kid's grown up a little before bringing it on a plane. :bored: (That said when I have a kid I'll probably take it on a plane when its a baby when I'm older but meh. :laugh:)

Niall what!? People do have places to go etc, sometimes to see family. Maybe planes should have a section dedicated to families though or those with small children, but you can't stop them taking children on holiday.

[Niall]

I say things without thinking sometimes. :bored:

[Niall]

Okay I take back what I said. That was dumb and insensitive of me. You lot have only just made me realise how stupid the things I've posted sound.

Like I said, sometimes I say things without thinking - I think things sound better in my head than they do irl. :/

[Niamh.]

Okay I take back what I said. That was dumb and insensitive of me. You lot have only just made me realise how stupid the things I've posted sound.

Like I said, sometimes I say things without thinking - I think things sound better in my head than they do irl. :/

awwww :hug: that's big of you to admit.

[Niall]

awwww :hug: that's big of you to admit.

Thanks. :hug:

[arista]

The Dad using a bottle on the Man that asked them to stop the crying
is the problem here.
He is in prison - he should now understand the rules on Crying babas


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[Niamh.]

The Dad using a bottle on the Man that asked them to stop the crying
is the problem here.
He is in prison - he should now understand the rules on Crying babas

yeah, I'm glad he got a good sentence for that, violent crimes like this should be punished severely

[Benjamin]

The Dad using a bottle on the Man that asked them to stop the crying
is the problem here.
He is in prison - he should now understand the rules on Crying babas


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/06/27/article-2008613-0CC10E3E00000578-208_226x341.jpg

Good! Serves the dirty little scrotum right!

[Shasown]

If people are going to insist on having babies for dinner in restaurants, the chef should always insist on the baby being at least medium preferably well done but never rare. This would eliminate the screaming of the barely seered baby.

[Ammi]

Although I'm not condoning the violence at all, the guy should have had a quiet word with the restaurant staff and let them deal with it, its not up to him to suggest how tired someone else's baby is.

[Lee.]

My pet hate has always been unruly children in restaurants, so since my kids have been old enough to understand, I have taken them to restaurants, explained that its a place for adults and dared them to move from the table. now I have no worries taking them out for a meal and they know if they are well behaved they'll get taken to the park or something afterwards.

[Ammi]

I don't mind at all a baby crying, it is after all the only way a Baby can let you know something's wrong or the Baby needs something, maybe changing or feeding.

What does annoy me are parents that 'never' seem to check those things and let the Baby cry.
I'd rather many times be hearing a Baby cry than some daft Adults yapping, when I am anywhere.

Yea the poor babies have to put up with that all the time:hugesmile:

[Ammi]

My pet hate has always been unruly children in restaurants, so since my kids have been old enough to understand, I have taken them to restaurants, explained that its a place for adults and dared them to move from the table. now I have no worries taking them out for a meal and they know if they are well behaved they'll get taken to the park or something afterwards.
Good parenting Happyland, of course you can't apply such reasoning to babies

[Benjamin]

Good parenting Happyland, of course you can't apply such reasoning to babies

Yeah, but the parents can take them to another part of the restaurant, away from the other diners, to calm the baby down.

[Lee.]

Good parenting Happyland, of course you can't apply such reasoning to babies

I think I was very lucky with both my babies as they never cried much, but if they were to kick off in a restaueant, I'd always take them outside until they were settled again.. hurray for dummies though!

[Ammi]

Yeah, but the parents can take them to another part of the restaurant, away from the other diners, to calm the baby down.

Yes they can and that's what most considerate parents would do, but I think it was the responsibilty of the restaurant staff to decide if diners where being disturbed and have a quiet word with the parents. I absolutely don't condone the violence but if they guy's first concern is that he looks like a thug because he's got a scar on his head and how that's going to look to his colleagues, well it makes me think that maybe he was quite condescending to the couple. As I say I never condone violence though.

[Ammi]

I think I was very lucky with both my babies as they beverages cried much, but if they were to kick off in a restaueant, I'd always take them outside until they were settled again.. hurray for dummies though!

I'm sure it was a lot to do with your parenting and not just luck, but unfortunately not every parent is as considerate as they should be but other people are also very quick to judge when they are irritated:hugesmile:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

My pet hate has always been unruly children in restaurants, so since my kids have been old enough to understand, I have taken them to restaurants, explained that its a place for adults and dared them to move from the table. now I have no worries taking them out for a meal and they know if they are well behaved they'll get taken to the park or something afterwards.

-scurd-

[Lee.]

I'm sure it was a lot to do with your parenting and not just luck, but unfortunately not every parent is as considerate as they should be but other people are also very quick to judge when they are irritated:hugesmile:

Yeah they are. I have to say that s ince having children I have a lot more patience and empathy for parents with screaming babies.

[Ammi]

Yeah they are. I have to say that s ince having children I have a lot more patience and empathy for parents with screaming babies.

yes me too and there are times when I've sat in a restaurant at lunchtimes or early evening with two well behaved children and had to listen to extremely foul language from other diners within earshot of my little angels(lol). People have to put up with stuff and sometimes be tolerant to other peoples right to be there too, that's life. That's why we are so behind other countries in our attitudes towards families in restaurants:hugesmile:

[Benjamin]

yes me too and there are times when I've sat in a restaurant at lunchtimes or early evening with two well behaved children and had to listen to extremely foul language from other diners within earshot of my little angels(lol). People have to put up with stuff and sometimes be tolerant to other peoples right to be there too, that's life. That's why we are so behind other countries in our attitudes towards families in restaurants:hugesmile:

Don't worry, I tell people off for foul language too. ;)

[Lee.]

-Has a very funny image if Ben in my head as a sort of Basil Fawlty like character-

[Ammi]

Don't worry, I tell people off for foul language too. ;)
That's good there are all sorts of bad behaviour in restaurants , far worse than a baby crying imo. The parents in this case did appear to be inconsiderate but that was that doesn't give a complete stranger the right to feel they can infer anything about their parenting skills. The staff, however are trained to be more diplomatic as I'm sure you are and you are a member of staff that's the diffence. Smashing the guy over the head though, is not being the best role model on how to deal with an irate diner

-Has a very funny image if Ben in my head as a sort of Basil Fawlty like character-

More of a Manuel, maybe?:joker:

[Livia]

10pm in a restaurant is Grown Up Time. It's the same as, since the smoking ban in pubs, parents think it's okay to bring their kids into the pub during the evening, even sit them on the bar while they order drinks. I saw a bloke tick off another bloke for swearing in a pub because his kids were there. I know that most parents think their own kids are endlessly fascinating, but to most of us, they're not. And especially not at 10pm in a restaurant.

[Niamh.]

10pm in a restaurant is Grown Up Time. It's the same as, since the smoking ban in pubs, parents think it's okay to bring their kids into the pub during the evening, even sit them on the bar while they order drinks. I saw a bloke tick off another bloke for swearing in a pub because his kids were there. I know that most parents think their own kids are endlessly fascinating, but to most of us, they're not. And especially not at 10pm in a restaurant.

I'm not sure what your laws are in Britain but here kids have to be out of pubs by 8pm (I think, could be 9pm)

[Vicky.]

I see no problem in having a baby out at 10pm (as long as its not regular like) but if its endlessly screaming, get outside/somewhere quiet or go home until you sort it out. Not everyone wants to hear that.

Niall...about the plane thing, its so annoying yes. But sometimes unavoidable. When we went to florida there was a very young baby on our plane screaming the whole way. The mother or father did nothing to attempt to pacify the child. And only fed it once suring the 8/9 hour flight flight too(evidently the only half hour when it was quiet) I felt like going over and throttling them, obviously it was in distress/hungry/whatever and they just didnt care :rolleyes:

[Sam:)]

should have been the other way round

[Livia]

I'm not sure what your laws are in Britain but here kids have to be out of pubs by 8pm (I think, could be 9pm)

I'm not sure what the law is either, but whatever it is, I would like to see a couple of places where kids are just not allowed. My parents never, ever took me into a pub when I was a child. If we ate at a restaurant, it was early, and we were expected to behave or there were consequences. How selfish have you got to be to take your baby to a restaurant at 10pm and then sit idly by while it screams the place down.

[Niamh.]

I'm not sure what the law is either, but whatever it is, I would like to see a couple of places where kids are just not allowed. My parents never, ever took me into a pub when I was a child. If we ate at a restaurant, it was early, and we were expected to behave or there were consequences. How selfish have you got to be to take your baby to a restaurant at 10pm and then sit idly by while it screams the place down.

Yeah, I agree, I mean I don't mind kids being in Pubs during the day but at night isn't really appropriate imo. And yeah the major problem in general is that parents don't do enough parenting anymore.

[InOne]

The worst thing is when kids are at a pool table, even WHEN there is a sign. Throwing balls about, messing up the cues and cloth :bored:

[Vicky.]

The worst thing is when kids are at a pool table, even WHEN there is a sign. Throwing balls about, messing up the cues and cloth :bored:

OMG I really really hate that.

Or if you are in the middle of a game and they just toddle over and pick up the black or something :bored:

Then the parents sit laughing saying ahh how cute :bored:

[MTVN]

I'm not sure what the law is either, but whatever it is, I would like to see a couple of places where kids are just not allowed. My parents never, ever took me into a pub when I was a child. If we ate at a restaurant, it was early, and we were expected to behave or there were consequences. How selfish have you got to be to take your baby to a restaurant at 10pm and then sit idly by while it screams the place down.

Isnt it up to the pubs in this country, I know some just dont allow kids at all and some ask for them to be in no later than 9pm or something like that

[Niamh.]

Isnt it up to the pubs in this country, I know some just dont allow kids at all and some ask for them to be in no later than 9pm or something like that

It's the law here that kids have to be out of pubs by 8 or 9pm

[InOne]

OMG I really really hate that.

Or if you are in the middle of a game and they just toddle over and pick up the black or something :bored:

Then the parents sit laughing saying ahh how cute :bored:

Yeah, you try ask the nicely to stop and it and the parents get right nasty. Like saying "He's only messing about" in that snidey tone. I've got to say it's the mothers who are worst for it.

I also hate when parents try hurry you up, just so their little snot can play :bored:

[Vicky.]

Yeah, you try ask the nicely to stop and it and the parents get right nasty. Like saying "He's only messing about" in that snidey tone. I've got to say it's the mothers who are worst for it.

I also hate when parents try hurry you up, just so their little snot can play :bored:

I just deathstare the parents for a while, and hope they get the message and tell the kid to stop(asking the kid never works, you just get a giggle or something and that irritates me more) and if they dont after a while...I will say very loudly 'excuse me, would you mind sorting your kid out, we are trying to play here' or something. Usually it embarrasses them into doing something, sometimes they even drink up and leave :D

[Niall]

Niall...about the plane thing, its so annoying yes. But sometimes unavoidable. When we went to florida there was a very young baby on our plane screaming the whole way. The mother or father did nothing to attempt to pacify the child. And only fed it once suring the 8/9 hour flight flight too(evidently the only half hour when it was quiet) I felt like going over and throttling them, obviously it was in distress/hungry/whatever and they just didnt care :rolleyes:

Yeah thats what I thought about the baby crying on the plane I was on. The parents didn't seem to be doing anything to soothe the poor kid. It cried almost solidly for 9 hours. O__O