Seeing as Big Brother is broadcast post watershed...

[daniel-lewis-1985]

...And the use of bad language is often seen in the show to which im sure will carry on in BB12. Do you think that it is justified to get reprimanded for using bad language on a forum that relates directly to talking about that show?

Discuss...

[DigitalSid]

I thought swearing here was censored?

[Pyramid*]

...And the use of bad language is often seen in the show to which im sure will carry on in BB12. Do you think that it is justified to get reprimanded for using bad language on a forum that relates directly to talking about that show?

Discuss...

Surely that depends on the rules of the forum in which the subject is being discussed.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Surely that depends on the rules of the forum in which the subject is being discussed.

Obviously its related to the rules of the forum but im asking for your personal opinion

[Pyramid*]

Obviously its related to the rules of the forum but im asking for your personal opinion


I believe I gave my personal opinion in my first reply.

In fact, I'd say my personal opinion was incredibly clear in my first post on this thread. Very clear.

[DigitalSid]

Obviously its related to the rules of the forum but im asking for your personal opinion

f they turn off censoring, it will just make arguments here more nasty.

Plus not all members here are adults and not everyone joined for BB, X Factor is pre-watershed.

[Pyramid*]

If they turn off censoring, it will just make arguments here more nasty.

Plus not all members here are adults and not everyone joined for BB, X Factor is pre-watershed.

Pretty accurate summary there DigitalSid. I don't think anyone minds the odd slip up here and there, regarldess, Rules are rules. They make them, we follow them.

[_Seth]

Only the F and C words should be censored here. The rest are very tame. =/

[Pyramid*]

Only the F and C words should be censored here. The rest are very tame. =/

I think that's a very reasonable suggestion in all honesty. Perhaps the Wh*** word as well though.

It's pretty offensive too.

[BigBroSite]

I personally think the Internet shouldn't be censored. If you don't like a certain word, Tough. Deal with it.

[Pyramid*]

I personally think the Internet shouldn't be censored. If you don't like a certain word, Tough. Deal with it.

Really??? You don't think very young, impressionable children have a moral right to be protected to some degree? Surely that gives rise to all sorts of things ..... and I don't mean just cursing.

[BigBroSite]

Young children shouldn't be on the internet un-supervised. ;)

Parents should take the responsibility.

[Pyramid*]

Young children shouldn't be on the internet un-supervised. ;)

Parents should take the responsibility.

Unfortunately: in the world that we now live in... whilst I completely agree that parents should: parents aren't with their children 24/7 - and it would be unhealthy for them be so.

I get what you are saying, totally. but in reality, that doesn't work. Unfortunately.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Really??? You don't think very young, impressionable children have a moral right to be protected to some degree? Surely that gives rise to all sorts of things ..... and I don't mean just cursing.

Big Brother is not for young children though?

If they shouldnt be subject to bad language and explicit material then they should not be watching the show.

[Pyramid*]

Big Brother is not for young children though?

If they shouldnt be subject to bad language and explicit material then they should not be watching the show.

This particular site is predominately for Big Brother fans - hence it's name This Is Big Brother. It's age limit is 13. What the show may be marketed towards, and the age of fans it actually attracts in reality are two entirely different things.

That is where censorship has to be applied. Some decency has to be factored in, and Tibbs has taken a responsible role to have such a rule in place, given the low age of members that are allowed to register and join. I'd have thought that was pretty obvious tbh.

[DigitalSid]

Big Brother is not for young children though?

If they shouldnt be subject to bad language and explicit material then they should not be watching the show.

Who said they are?

[Pyramid*]

Who said they are?

Very astute DigitialSid, very astute and excellent point.

They don't have to be watching it on TV. There are numerous places they can catch up, or even discuss in great detail - tabloids, magazine, you tube, etc, etc.

[_Seth]

We all have to consider the potential that a 13 year old fan could be watching the censored midday version of the show, and then come here to discuss.

But yeah, only F and C should be censored. Or maybe there could be an option for those who want a swear filter and those who don't.

[Vicky.]

The site has a main focus on BB. But not everyone joins to talk about BB.

I will say that personally(I think my opinion on this is pretty common knowledge :p ), I dont think there should be a filter. However, I can see why there is one.

Its all well and good saying parents should supervise their kids 24/7, but in reality, its not quite that easy is it :/

And I would be so pissed if I had kids who had joined a forum to talk about..say the x factor...and ended up learning words such as ****** from it.

[Pyramid*]

The site has a main focus on BB. But not everyone joins to talk about BB.

I will say that personally(I think my opinion on this is pretty common knowledge :p ), I dont think there should be a filter. However, I can see why there is one.

Its all well and good saying parents should supervise their kids 24/7, but in reality, its not quite that easy is it :/

And I would be so pissed if I had kids who had joined a forum to talk about..say the x factor...and ended up learning words such as ****** from it.



And therein lies the truth.:blush:

[arista]

...And the use of bad language is often seen in the show to which im sure will carry on in BB12. Do you think that it is justified to get reprimanded for using bad language on a forum that relates directly to talking about that show?

Discuss...



You can Use Feck.



A Good Mod will help you
on this

[Smithy]

The site has a main focus on BB. But not everyone joins to talk about BB.

I will say that personally(I think my opinion on this is pretty common knowledge :p ), I dont think there should be a filter. However, I can see why there is one.

Its all well and good saying parents should supervise their kids 24/7, but in reality, its not quite that easy is it :/

And I would be so pissed if I had kids who had joined a forum to talk about..say the x factor...and ended up learning words such as ****** from it.

With the age limit being 13 to join though, you're hearing those words already at school

[Vicky.]

With the age limit being 13 to join though, you're hearing those words already at school

Possibly. In fact most likely.

However, they might not have...maybe the kid is homeschooled, or in a really posh school or whatever

[Pyramid*]

With the age limit being 13 to join though, you're hearing those words already at school

It doesn't mean that it should be readily accepted though. That's the difference.

[Smithy]

Possibly. In fact most likely.

However, they might not have...maybe the kid is homeschooled, or in a really posh school or whatever
Even in a really posh school, they still swear :tongue:
It doesn't mean that it should be readily accepted though. That's the difference.

of course not.

I think it should optional to have a swear filter, but the default option is to have it on, therefore if someone is young they only way they're gonna see anything is if they themselves choose too

[Vicky.]

I think it should optional to have a swear filter, but the default option is to have it on, therefore if someone is young they only way they're gonna see anything is if they themselves choose too

I have asked that before, apparently the filter is applied when the post is actually posted rather than when its being read or something, so it wouldnt be possible to have an optional filter

[Pyramid*]

Even in a really posh school, they still swear :tongue:


of course not.

I think it should optional to have a swear filter, but the default option is to have it on, therefore if someone is young they only way they're gonna see anything is if they themselves choose too

An underager simply should not have that choice, that choice should be made for them. I'd be appalled to hear youngsters using that language as part of their everyday conversation in the home: and parents who allow that to happen, allow their children to use such language as part of conversation, are nothing but chavvy scum and very poor parents, in my opinion.

Why on earth should it be acceptable during everyday conversation on a forum?

[Jords]

There have been occasions where the show has started at 8.

Theres no need for it online really, now and then yeah but going around saying it for the sake of it is a bit gay (or to use it for insults ;))

[joeysteele]

I don't see the need for swearing anyway,anywhere.(I know I am well in the minority though).

[Pyramid*]

There have been occasions where the show has started at 8.

Theres no need for it online really, now and then yeah but going around saying it for the sake of it is a bit gay (or to use it for insults ;))

Or to be seen as, 'tough / big/ adult', which I think it may be so in a great many cases.

Or...perhaps their vocabulary is so limited they don't know any other adjectives .... ;)

[Vicky.]

Optional filter isn't possible (easily anyway) because the filter is applied before the post is stored, not when the post is viewed.

Would take a LOT of messing around with the sites coding. And its just not worth it for the sake of a few members wanting to swear :/

(Found it eventually)

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Who said they are?

Erm the fact there are members on here who are about 12 obviously proves that they are watching an ADULT show :rolleyes:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I just think in order for you to join you shold have to enter your date of birth and anyone under 16's feed will automatically blovk out explicit words. Personally i love swearing and think it adds to an opinion.

[Vicky.]

I just think in order for you to join you shold have to enter your date of birth and anyone under 16's feed will automatically blovk out explicit words. Personally i love swearing and think it adds to an opinion.

Optional filter isn't possible (easily anyway) because the filter is applied before the post is stored, not when the post is viewed.
.

[DigitalSid]

Erm the fact there are members on here who are about 12 obviously proves that they are watching an ADULT show :rolleyes:

No it doesn't. They could be here to discuss X Factor etcetera.

[DigitalSid]

Young children shouldn't be on the internet un-supervised. ;)

Parents should take the responsibility.

They shouldn't, but they are.

[Vicky.]

Erm the fact there are members on here who are about 12 obviously proves that they are watching an ADULT show :rolleyes:

Just because someone is a member of a forum that is mainly for bB, it doesnt mean they watch the show itself.

People use this to talk about BGT, XF, etc too...not just BB

[Pyramid*]

Erm the fact there are members on here who are about 12 obviously proves that they are watching an ADULT show :rolleyes:

A child does not have to watch an adult show to prove what age they are on here. Tibbs has various sections: that do not related in any way to BB if you are classing BB as an adult show. Sports, music, soaps, general discussion, chats, games, they are all part of this forum and not adult sedtions.

They could be gleaning the information about BB if you are referring to that specifically, from the site, from newspapers, from magazines, from their friends.

If they are doing that, and swearing is given free rein on Tibbs for example: and they are not surrounded by that in their normal lives outside of the forum: where do you expect them therefore to pick up the bad language......from the forum.

It really is not that hard to figure out surely?

[georgehudson]

I believe I gave my personal opinion in my first reply.

In fact, I'd say my personal opinion was incredibly clear in my first post on this thread. Very clear.

Your a lairy one arn't you. :xyxwave:

[Shaun]

I think finding swear words offensive is pretty arbitrary. After all it's easy to offend someone without using them (fat cow, ugly mess, etc.) so I find the censorship a little bit pointless. If anything you're giving them a heightened sense of ill-meaning by making them omg~illegal~.

This is of course ignoring the most common use of swear words - frustration, anger or emphasis - rather than the sole use of insults. I'm all for the likes of "I think Shaun is a massive dickhead" being infracted (:p) but saying something along the lines of "I ****ing hate cricket" isn't offending anyone other than busybodies. I mean who can honestly say, hand-on-heart, on here, a Big Brother forum, that they're offended by the F word? You can say it's unnecessary (but then, most words are), but I think people who take offence think they should be offended, or are merely acting upon an already-established dislike of the offending member's profanity.

[Pyramid*]

Your a lairy one arn't you. :xyxwave:

I'd stay straight to the point.

[Pyramid*]

I think finding swear words offensive is pretty arbitrary. After all it's easy to offend someone without using them (fat cow, ugly mess, etc.) so I find the censorship a little bit pointless. If anything you're giving them a heightened sense of ill-meaning by making them omg~illegal~.

This is of course ignoring the most common use of swear words - frustration, anger or emphasis - rather than the sole use of insults. I'm all for the likes of "I think Shaun is a massive dickhead" being infracted (:p) but saying something along the lines of "I ****ing hate cricket" isn't offending anyone other than busybodies. I mean who can honestly say, hand-on-heart, on here, a Big Brother forum, that they're offended by the F word? You can say it's unnecessary (but then, most words are), but I think people who take offence think they should be offended, or are merely acting upon an already-established dislike of the offending member's profanity.

Possibly. But throwing about the C word for the hell of it.... that's beyond acceptable. I know you don't think so ;)

I do, and I'm not alone in that thought.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

A child does not have to watch an adult show to prove what age they are on here. Tibbs has various sections: that do not related in any way to BB if you are classing BB as an adult show. Sports, music, soaps, general discussion, chats, games, they are all part of this forum and not adult sedtions.

They could be gleaning the information about BB if you are referring to that specifically, from the site, from newspapers, from magazines, from their friends.

If they are doing that, and swearing is given free rein on Tibbs for example: and they are not surrounded by that in their normal lives outside of the forum: where do you expect them therefore to pick up the bad language......from the forum.

It really is not that hard to figure out surely?

Stop nit picking im speciically talking about the BIG BROTHER section of this forum.

Obviously if they are commenting on here then they are watching the show so stop this rubbish about them not watching it on tv but instead reading about it coz everyone on here who comments WATCHES the show

[Pyramid*]

Stop nit picking im speciically talking about the BIG BROTHER section of this forum.

Obviously if they are commenting on here then they are watching the show so stop this rubbish about them not watching it on tv but instead reading about it coz everyone on here who comments WATCHES the show

Oh I'm not nit picking. I'm stating something that cannot be ruled out.

The point is daniel-lewis 1985. The forum rules on swearing are clear. You have also had the opinion of a mod on this very thread in respect of certain words. Now, Don't take that out on me just because you want to go about cursing all over the place and can't. Take it up with the mods. :thumbs:

[Vicky.]

Well, technically mods have nothing to do with it. We dont really get a say in most of the rules, just have to uphold them :tongue:

[Pyramid*]

Well, technically mods have nothing to do with it. We dont really get a say in most of the rules, just have to uphold them :tongue:

Admin then.... whoever it is that makes the rules on here. The point is Vicky, if the OP has an issue with the rules: he should be raising it in the appropriate section and with the appropriate people: not arguing over it with other members. I think that's a fair comment.

[emmetmcl]

how about the other C word? cli*t? not that i can think of anywhere to use it. LOL

[Vicky.]

Admin then.... whoever it is that makes the rules on here. The point is Vicky, if the OP has an issue with the rules: he should be raising it in the appropriate section and with the appropriate people: not arguing over it with other members. I think that's a fair comment.
Oh yeah, was just saying incase we all ended up getting lengthy PMs about the swear filter, when theres nothing we can actually do about it :p

how about the other C word? cli*t? not that i can think of anywhere to use it. LOL
Clits not a swear word though :/

And I dont think I have ever seen it used as such either.

[Smithy]

Vicky you are such a clitoris

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Admin then.... whoever it is that makes the rules on here. The point is Vicky, if the OP has an issue with the rules: he should be raising it in the appropriate section and with the appropriate people: not arguing over it with other members. I think that's a fair comment.

Im actually asking other members point of view on the matter actually.

We all use this forum daily and therefor are entitled to an opinion on how the forum is run so this IS in the "appropriate" place.

Even Vicky stated that she liked the odd swear word and thats coming from a mod.

Is it possible to add a poll to this now? Would be a much quicker and easier way to see what people really think and would certainly stop you rambling on and on and on and on and on about something you probably dont really care about but feel like you should argue because lets face it pretty much every post i make you disagree with me.

Walk away from the thread.....Like an egyptian

[Vicky.]

Im actually asking other members point of view on the matter actually.

We all use this forum daily and therefor are entitled to an opinion on how the forum is run so this IS in the "appropriate" place.

Even Vicky stated that she liked the odd swear word and thats coming from a mod.

Thats twisting my words a little bit :p

I dont think there should be a filter, as this place is PRIMARILY for BB, however I can see why the filter is there

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Thats twisting my words a little bit :p

I dont think there should be a filter, as this place is PRIMARILY for BB, however I can see why the filter is there

So you dont think there should be a filter.

Me neither.

Case closed lol

[InOne]

If you're so bothered but a few letters in italic or something

[Vicky.]

If you're so bothered but a few letters in italic or something

Dont advise people to do this :nono:

Doing this will result in infractions

[InOne]

Dont advise people to do this :nono:

Doing this will result in infractions

Sorry, delete the post if you want :tongue:

[Pyramid*]

Im actually asking other members point of view on the matter actually.

We all use this forum daily and therefor are entitled to an opinion on how the forum is run so this IS in the "appropriate" place.

Even Vicky stated that she liked the odd swear word and thats coming from a mod.

Is it possible to add a poll to this now? Would be a much quicker and easier way to see what people really think and would certainly stop you rambling on and on and on and on and on about something you probably dont really care about but feel like you should argue because lets face it pretty much every post i make you disagree with me.

Walk away from the thread.....Like an egyptian

I believe I made my point in my first post and it was you who somehow needed further clarification from what was very clear in my first post, and so it continued. You didn't like my opinion and continued to not accept my view. I continued to put my view over.

You will see from several other replies in this thread: that I am not alone in my view: I am not some lone sole on this forum who feels that there are words that simply are unacceptable on a forum that allows youngsters aged 13 on it.

I will post where I want, as I am breaking no rules: and should not be expected to be told by you to walk away from the thread, simply because we have differing opinions.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I believe I made my point in my first post and it was you who somehow needed further clarification from what was very clear in my first post, and so it continued. You didn't like my opinion and continued to not accept my view. I continued to put my view over.

You will see from several other replies in this thread: that I am not alone in my view: I am some lone sole on this forum who feels that there are words that simply are unacceptable on a forum that allows youngsters aged 13 on it.

I will post where I want, as I am breaking no rules: and should not be expected to be told by you to walk away from the thread, simply because we have differing opinions.

My cats breath smells lke cat food

[Pyramid*]

My cats breath smells lke cat food

Wonderfully on topic. :hugesmile:

[swinearefine]

I don't like censorship in any form. I don't see the point in censoring swears here or anywhere, because they're just words and it's immature to take offense to them just because they've been branded "bad" by society. I don't like a lot of things that people say but they should be allowed to say whatever they want as long as they're not harassing or threatening anyone.

[BBDodge]

On C4 BB used to get a censored early morning repeat wheich was watched by parents with small children. There are fans of the show from that demographic who are entitled to post here.

[BigBroSite]

But, my point is...

Do you people not remember what school was like?

Everyone swore at school! Away from the parents you can get away with it!

What is the worst that can happen if a kid reads a swear word? It's not gonna kill them is it!? They are gonna hear them anyway. Its the parents job to make the kid understand they are bad and should only be used when its older and in contex! :p

[Pyramid*]

But, my point is...

Do you people not remember what school was like?

Everyone swore at school! Away from the parents you can get away with it!

What is the worst that can happen if a kid reads a swear word? It's not gonna kill them is it!? They are gonna hear them anyway. Its the parents job to make the kid understand they are bad and should only be used when its older and in contex! :p

I'd say rather than laying full responsibility at the parents' doors..... given that this site is open to people as young as 13 - it is the ADULTS jobs to make the kids understand and that is why admin and mods are there. It's up to them, and not up to those of a similar age group who are swearing for the hell of it, because they 'can', coz mummy and daddy aren't looking in.

Do you remember what school was like - apart from swearing: ganging up and bullying people. That goes on in schools too: it doesn't mean to see it should be allowed to happen on a forum either. Exactly the same principle as the swearing.

I doubt many people on here object to the occassional cuss word, particularly when put into context: but some posters (children and adults) use it to such extent, in every 3rd post, full of F's, and C's - and they quite deliberately use a different font to avoid the swear filter. Now if that's not childish and immature - in he mistaken belief that they think they are some sort of rebel without a cause .... I don't know what it.

Half the time the ones very guilty of it - end up ruining the very point they are trying to get over: because they cannot think of anything else more descriptive to write - and anything worthwhile said, is lost in amongst the barrage of expletives.

So there!!:hugesmile:

[Mac Hiavellian]

My cats breath smells lke cat food

RALPH!

Anyways, I'm against the swear filter because although kids can easily go on to the forum BB never used to be a kid's show. It's only as it went on BB started to edit out or tone down some of it's content and that's why I think nowadays there's more younger teenagers on here than there would have been back in the day and so the forum's more 'clean' for the sake of the younger viewers. BB5 and 6 were so NOT for kids.

I swear a lot and I know it's not 'big or clever' but I still say it to emphasize my points or if I'm quoting something. Plus the swear filter's pretty stupid when there was a time you couldn't even type 'Pakistan'

[Pyramid*]

RALPH!

Anyways, I'm against the swear filter because although kids can easily go on to the forum BB never used to be a kid's show. It's only as it went on BB started to edit out or tone down some of it's content and that's why I think nowadays there's more younger teenagers on here than there would have been back in the day and so the forum's more 'clean' for the sake of the younger viewers. BB5 and 6 were so NOT for kids.

I swear a lot and I know it's not 'big or clever' but I still say it to emphasize my points or if I'm quoting something. Plus the swear filter's pretty stupid when there was a time you couldn't even type 'Pakistan'

Guess that would be be a bit of a bummer if you were trying to explain that's where you were going for your vacation!!:hugesmile:

As I say: it's not the odd swear words: very few people in life don't swear: it's when comments are polluted with them that it detracts completely.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I'd say rather than laying full responsibility at the parents' doors..... given that this site is open to people as young as 13 - it is the ADULTS jobs to make the kids understand and that is why admin and mods are there. It's up to them, and not up to those of a similar age group who are swearing for the hell of it, because they 'can', coz mummy and daddy aren't looking in.

Do you remember what school was like - apart from swearing: ganging up and bullying people. That goes on in schools too: it doesn't mean to see it should be allowed to happen on a forum either. Exactly the same principle as the swearing.

I doubt many people on here object to the occassional cuss word, particularly when put into context: but some posters (children and adults) use it to such extent, in every 3rd post, full of F's, and C's - and they quite deliberately use a different font to avoid the swear filter. Now if that's not childish and immature - in he mistaken belief that they think they are some sort of rebel without a cause .... I don't know what it.

Half the time the ones very guilty of it - end up ruining the very point they are trying to get over: because they cannot think of anything else more descriptive to write - and anything worthwhile said, is lost in amongst the barrage of expletives.

So there!!:hugesmile:

Im sorry educated one but cussing is in my vocab and i express myself using those delightfull words.

Im also sorry if it offends you but to be honest the way you write offends me.

Each post of yours is so overly well written. This is a Big Brother forum not a new novel by Agatha Christie.

I feel you over compensate with your big humungous words and i also feel you do this to patronise, impress and make yourself feel superior to other members (chavs) which i have often witnessed with you correcting peoples spelling.

But this is just my opinion.

[Pyramid*]

Im sorry educated one but cussing is in my vocab and i express myself using those delightfull words.

Im also sorry if it offends you but to be honest the way you write offends me.

Each post of yours is so overly well written. This is a Big Brother forum not a new novel by Agatha Christie.

I feel you over compensate with your big humungous words and i also feel you do this to patronise, impress and make yourself feel superior to other members (chavs) which i have often witnessed with you correcting peoples spelling.

But this is just my opinion.

It had to be done.:devil:I'm educated. Hang me.

Now, rather than sit on the fence: why don't you just say how you feel, rather than keeping it in to yourself. It's good to talk !!

If the way I write offends you so much, there's that wonderful invention on here known as the 'Ignore' button. Feel free to use it, then you won't need to be so offended. After all, the choice is there for you to make.
:spin:

[Vicky.]

This is clearly going nowhere, and has just descended into petty bickering now :/