Smokers ban in Town Centre Straford

[arista]

This was reported on
ITV1 This morning.


Stub it out! Market town to follow New York's lead with blanket ban on smoking in the street


"A town is set to become the first in Britain to ban smoking from its streets.
Councillor Paul Bartlett, 50, wants to create a new bylaw to outlaw smoking in any open place or public street in the market town of Stony Stratford, Buckinghamshire.
If the scheme is passed by the town's council as well as Milton Keynes Council, smokers who lit up in public places would risk being fined."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2009426/Town-Stony-Stratford-ban-smoking-public-following-New-Yorks-lead.html#ixzz1R8G3lKlX




The First Town to Ban Stinking Smokers
in England.



Bring it On

[MTVN]

:rolleyes:

[lostalex]

wouldn't it more sense to just ban selling cigarettes?


so you can sell cigarettes from every shop, but you can't smoke them?

If the government has decided that cigarettes are so horrible, why are they only targeting the smokers? why arn't they targeting the tobacco companies, and the shops that sell them too?

We don't like cigarettes and we don't want people to smoke, but instead of taking issue with the creators and sellers, we will just punish the actual victims of this addictive product?

That doesn't seem very logical to me.

[Kate!]

I am all for this, its horrible when you walk down the street in the town centre and someone blows smoke in your face as you pass, or has their cigarette in their hand and it touches your clothes as you pass and burns them which has actually happened to me and when I said to the person that they had burnt my clothing I received a torrent of abuse..... Great!!

[Niamh.]

wouldn't it more sense to just ban selling cigarettes?


so you can sell cigarettes from every shop, but you can't smoke them?

If the government has decided that cigarettes are so horrible, why are they only targeting the smokers? why arn't they targeting the tobacco companies, and the shops that sell them too?

We don't like cigarettes and we don't want people to smoke, but instead of taking issue with the creators and sellers, we will just punish the actual victims of this addictive product?

That doesn't seem very logical to me.

and lose out on all that Tax? Never

[arista]

I am all for this, its horrible when you walk down the street in the town centre and someone blows smoke in your face as you pass, or has their cigarette in their hand and it touches your clothes as you pass and burns them which has actually happened to me and when I said to the person that they had burnt my clothing I received a torrent of abuse..... Great!!



Yes I want more Towns to do this.



Stinking Smokers are Rude

[lostalex]

and lose out on all that Tax? Never

very good point. as my very obnoxious but beloved friend might say "egggggsactly!'

[arista]

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bring back the hook Ad

[lostalex]

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bring back the hook Ad

don't be racist.

[arista]

don't be racist.


You do not Get It.


It is a Ad that works well over here
Feck all to do with Race.

Smokers are hooked

[Ammi]

of course why don't we forget the murderers, rapists and child abusers and have the police patrolling the town centres to fine the smokers, they are so rude to do this

[joeysteele]

I don't have any aversion to smokers at all, there are some inconsiderate smokers, just as there are inconsiderate people who when drinking cans of pop, just throw down the can/bottle or whatever when they are finished or they bump into you and you get some splashed on you.
I have never smoked but I have friends who do and it doesn't bother me in the slightest.

Streets belong to the public,or should do, people pay council tax and they should be able to smoke if they want to, it's not like they will be following someone around smoking all the time, in all the time other people will be using the streets too.
By all means ban it from inside buildings other than the peoples own homes but out in the street,a step too far and how can you be doing anything morally illegal by smoking in the street when it's perfectly legal to buy cigarettes anyway.

It is beginning to seem like the nanny state, this Govt accused the last one of being, is now being taken on now by this coalition govt.

[arista]

of course why don't we forget the murderers, rapists and child abusers and have the police patrolling the town centres to fine the smokers, they are so rude to do this


No this is that Towns right
I may he go up there to thank them.

[arista]

"It is beginning to seem like the nanny state, this Govt accused the last one of being, is now being taken on now by this coalition govt."


No this is a Town
not David and Smoker Nick.


Get Your Facts Right.

[Mystic Mock]

Yes I want more Towns to do this.



Stinking Smokers are Rude

My Mom and Dad are smokers and there nothing like what your saying.

Look as much as I hate smoking,I still do believe in you should choose if you want to be a smoker or not,as afterall its not like there smoking heroine is it.

But it seems that smokers get treated worse than actual druggies by the Governments.

[InOne]

Seems ridiculous really. Some smokers are inconsiderate, but not all. It's the minority just like everything. Can't believe the goverment is controlling even more where we smoke.

Society is dead.

[Mystic Mock]

Seems ridiculous really. Some smokers are inconsiderate, but not all. It's the minority just like everything. Can't believe the goverment is controlling even more where we smoke.

Society is dead.

Agreed,I believe we are turning into 1984.:joker:

[arista]

My Mom and Dad are smokers and there nothing like what your saying.

Look as much as I hate smoking,I still do believe in you should choose if you want to be a smoker or not,as afterall its not like there smoking heroine is it.

But it seems that smokers get treated worse than actual druggies by the Governments.


Ok but these Stinking Rude Smokers
give all smokers a bad name


Again this is not PM David and Smoker Nick,
it is a Town.

Give that Town credit.

[Niamh.]

"The First Town to Ban Stinking Smokers"

Arista

Vicky is a smoker

[arista]

Seems ridiculous really. Some smokers are inconsiderate, but not all. It's the minority just like everything. Can't believe the goverment is controlling even more where we smoke.

Society is dead.


They are Not

This Town has chosen this NYC way.


You do not understand.

[arista]

"The First Town to Ban Stinking Smokers"

Arista

Vicky is a smoker


Vicky Is Great



Smoking is Wrong.




Life In The City.

[Ammi]

No this is that Towns right
I may he go up there to thank them.

I know why wait till the cigarettes kill them, lets lynch them all now, rude smokers, shouldn't be out in public at all

[Mystic Mock]

Ok but these Stinking Rude Smokers
give all smokers a bad name


Again this is not PM David and Smoker Nick,
it is a Town.

Give that Town credit.

Who do you think runs these towns? people that actually care about other people.:joker:

The Governments need to stop being so controlling because eventually there going to put cameras in our houses and tell us what time we go to bed at this rate.

[InOne]

"The First Town to Ban Stinking Smokers"

Arista

Vicky is a smoker

I thought you were too

[Niamh.]

I thought you were too

I am but Arista loves Vicky :joker:

-runs to tell Vicky that arista thinks she's smelly-

[arista]

Who do you think runs these towns? people that actually care about other people.:joker:

The Governments need to stop being so controlling because eventually there going to put cameras in our houses and tell us what time we go to bed at this rate.


No there is a Local Bill


Towns have more Freedom

this Town is Clever


Its not PM David and Smoker Nick.

[Mystic Mock]

No there is a Local Bill


Towns have more Freedom


Its not PM David and Smoker Nick.

Nobody has that much freedom in this stinking country,especially not a town.

[arista]

Nobody has that much freedom in this stinking country,especially not a town.


Times Are Changing


Watch the News tonight

[Ammi]

I am but Arista loves Vicky :joker:

-runs to tell Vicky that arista thinks she's smelly-
no he thinks she's stinky Vicky:hugesmile:

[arista]

no he thinks she's stinky Vicky:hugesmile:


no Vicky Sings
she is cool.

[Ammi]

No there is a Local Bill


Towns have more Freedom

this Town is Clever


Its not PM David and Smoker Nick.

if only all towns were so clever, without the tax from smokers there'd be a lot less money in the pocket to spend at Asda

[arista]

if only all towns were so clever, without the tax from smokers there'd be a lot less money in the pocket to spend at Asda


In NYC it works
They can Not Smoke in Parks.


Those smokers Smoke in legal places,
So you are Wrong.

Towns are Clever
The Tax is still going in
as smokers go to a Place that it is Legal to smoke

[Ammi]

In NYC it works
They can Not Smoke in Parks.


Those smokers Smoke in legal places,
So you are Wrong.

Towns are Clever
The Tax is still going in
as smokers go to a Place that it is Legal to smoke

hmmm wonders where the legal place is if the town is banned. What will happen to the livlihood of the pub owners who have already suffered, if people can't smoke outside the pubs either :eureka: they could ban alcohol as well!

[InOne]

The goverment seem to want pubs to die a long horrible and painfully slow death. Even heard talks of them banning smoking in Beer gardens. But surely that madness can't happen :bored:

[Ammi]

The goverment seem to want pubs to die a long horrible and painfully slow death. Even heard talks of them banning smoking in Beer gardens. But surely that madness can't happen :bored:

It wouldn't surprise me, pathetic little town councillors just trying to give themselves something to do so they keep their jobs

[Vicky.]

The goverment seem to want pubs to die a long horrible and painfully slow death. Even heard talks of them banning smoking in Beer gardens. But surely that madness can't happen :bored:

Certainly seems that way :/

[Mystic Mock]

It wouldn't surprise me, pathetic little town councillors just trying to give themselves something to do so they keep their jobs

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sack the bastards for pissing off the majority of people who dont care about these trivial things.

[Ammi]

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sack the bastards for pissing off the majority of people who dont care about these trivial things.
:joker:

[joeysteele]

Who do you think runs these towns? people that actually care about other people.:joker:

The Governments need to stop being so controlling because eventually there going to put cameras in our houses and tell us what time we go to bed at this rate.

:joker: I have loved all your points so far on this topic jf, it wouldn't surprise me one day that we may have to justify the use of energy to some officialdom in the future as to lights on etc. Great posts jf.

George Orwell and 1984, was not far off the mark he was just about 20 to 30 years too early as to his predictions of 1984.

Also arista, I take your point that the govt do not run that town but the govt actually runs the whole Country as you well know, it had in its election manifesto its determination to remove from peoples lives the nanny state nonsense and restrictions placed on them during the last govt as to Education,health and safety and how councils operated.so the govt should demand this cannot be done anywhere in Britain.
We are not the USA, we don't have different states, there should not be permitted different laws in one town that are not binding in other towns.

Only the govt can demand that doesn't happen so the govt should act and slap this silly council down and hard.

[arista]

hmmm wonders where the legal place is if the town is banned. What will happen to the livlihood of the pub owners who have already suffered, if people can't smoke outside the pubs either :eureka: they could ban alcohol as well!


On the edge of the town.


Yes pubs are in Trouble

So are Shops.




Life In The City

[Ammi]

On the edge of the town.


Yes pubs are in Trouble

So are Shops.




Life In The City

Yes gone are the days when you could stand outside of Greggs, eating your pasty, drinking your lager and polishing it off with a nice fag. Taking care of your heart, lungs and liver in one go, well at least it didn't discriminate

[arista]

Yes gone are the days when you could stand outside of Greggs, eating your pasty, drinking your lager and polishing it off with a nice fag. Taking care of your heart, lungs and liver in one go, well at least it didn't discriminate

Many Greggs are now putting out table and seats
if they can.




Greggs are a great British Company
doing well.

[Ammi]

Many Greggs are now putting out table and seats
if they can.




Greggs are a great British Company
doing well.

doing well feeding the nations heart, not much different to the fags imo, maybe Straford should think about banning outdoor eating not encouraging it

[arista]

doing well feeding the nations heart, not much different to the fags imo, maybe Straford should think about banning outdoor eating not encouraging it



No the answer is eat sensible.
Having a greggs
will not harm you.
Make sure you Eat Veg and Fruit, as well.


And Never Smoke

[Mystic Mock]

:joker: I have loved all your points so far on this topic jf, it wouldn't surprise me one day that we may have to justify the use of energy to some officialdom in the future as to lights on etc. Great posts jf.

George Orwell and 1984, was not far off the mark he was just about 20 to 30 years too early as to his predictions of 1984.

Also arista, I take your point that the govt do not run that town but the govt actually runs the whole Country as you well know, it had in its election manifesto its determination to remove from peoples lives the nanny state nonsense and restrictions placed on them during the last govt as to Education,health and safety and how councils operated.so the govt should demand this cannot be done anywhere in Britain.
We are not the USA, we don't have different states, there should not be permitted different laws in one town that are not binding in other towns.

Only the govt can demand that doesn't happen so the govt should act and slap this silly council down and hard.

Great post Joey.

[arista]

The goverment seem to want pubs to die a long horrible and painfully slow death. Even heard talks of them banning smoking in Beer gardens. But surely that madness can't happen :bored:


Its a Town
Not London.


More Towns will do this.
It is a Great way forward.

[InOne]

Its a Town
Not London.


More Towns will do this.
It is a Great way forward.

It seems like we're going backwards

[arista]

It seems like we're going backwards


No but less smokers is a New Way Forward

[Vicky.]

No but less smokers is a New Way Forward

An easier way to get less smokers...would be stop selling cigarettes and tobacco.

But they make too much money from those, so cant be doing that.

Instead, let people spend their money on these horrible horrible things...an then make them feel like they have done wrong by buying them. Perfect :rolleyes:

[InOne]

They should be concentrating on the rising number of teen alcoholics :nono:

[Vicky.]

They should be concentrating on the rising number of teen alcoholics :nono:

Yup.

But of course, everyone knows people smoking causes more trouble than people drinking :rolleyes:

[InOne]

Yup.

But of course, everyone knows people smoking causes more trouble than people drinking :rolleyes:

Some MP's were against the smoking ban, one quite famously in 07. It's a shame there's no voice anymore :bored:

[arista]

An easier way to get less smokers...would be stop selling cigarettes and tobacco.

But they make too much money from those, so cant be doing that.

Instead, let people spend their money on these horrible horrible things...an then make them feel like they have done wrong by buying them. Perfect :rolleyes:


They are Due to Hide selling them.



Yes this tax is a old hang on
as times moves on ,
it will go.


Smokers will be gone in the long term future
Thats a Common Sense Health Future.


Vicky you can Stop Smoking
You know you can.

[Mrluvaluva]

‘Smokers then get their butt, which is full of saliva, and chuck it on the floor.'

Not true of everyone. Some people dispose of their cigarette butts in a proper manner in designated ash trays or bins.

Saliva comes from people spitting, chewing gum, any number of sources.

We should ban all vehicles too because of the pollution. And why stop there?

Actually, if you smoke in your car is that deemed a public place? Say you have the window open?

If smoking is banned in "in any open place or public street" then where will anybody smoke? In your own home only? Will you not be able to open your windows or doors? What about people who rent and cannot smoke in their own homes and do not have a garden? Banning in public parks and beaches would not bother me personally as a smoker. I have to adapt accordingly. I would be interested to know what is deemed as "any open place".

[Mrluvaluva]

Vicky you can Stop Smoking
You know you can.


Very easy for a non-smoker to say.

[arista]

"We should ban all vehicles too because of the pollution"

We are , it takes time.

The future is Battery cars
which last even longer without charge.



Smokers are going to go from the Western World
as this bunch of stinking smokers die off
it gets better for all.

[Ammi]

Oh yeah banning smoking is the answer, that'll work, don't know why they didn't put that on the packet all these years instead of those silly health warnings:hugesmile:

[Vicky.]

They are Due to Hide selling them.



Yes this tax is a old hang on
as times moves on ,
it will go.


Smokers will be gone in the long term future
Thats a Common Sense Health Future.


Vicky you can Stop Smoking
You know you can.

I can, but I dont want to. I enjoy it, it relaxes me.

Also I have an addictive personality, so if I stopped smoking properly, I would likely end up hooked to something else.

And the country would be ****ed if everyone stopped smoking anyway. As livia pointed out in the other thread, smokers fund 10% of the NHS. If they keep up with **** like this, expect your taxes to rise massively.

[arista]

I can, but I dont want to. I enjoy it, it relaxes me.

Also I have an addictive personality, so if I stopped smoking properly, I would likely end up hooked to something else.

And the country would be ****ed if everyone stopped smoking anyway. As livia pointed out in the other thread, smokers fund 10% of the NHS. If they keep up with **** like this, expect your taxes to rise massively.


As time goes on smokers will go.
Other things can relax you.
It mind over mater.


In the future funding will come from other places.


Smoking is Deadly
Its a Health Issue.


China will be the last to change.

[Vicky.]

As time goes on smokers will go.
Other things can relax you.
It mind over mater.


In the future funding will come from other places.


Smoking is Deadly
Its a Health Issue.


China will be the last to change.

Yeah, by extra taxes...again.

And drinking alcohol is also a health issue. As is eating too much processed/fatty food. Dont see those being banned :wink:

[arista]

Yeah, by extra taxes...again.

And drinking alcohol is also a health issue. As is eating too much processed/fatty food. Dont see those being banned :wink:

Yes Drinking to much is a Problem
Not all of us over drink.

[Mystic Mock]

It seems like we're going backwards

Agreed.

[Visage]

so you can sell cigarettes from every shop, but you can't smoke them?


You can buy condoms in ASDA but I don't think they want you to use them in there or just outside the doorway.

:hugesmile:

[joeysteele]

I agree 100% with InOne and Jedward fever, we are going backwards, if smoking was illegal then fine, there would be reasons for these nanny like petty and discriminatory bans in all public areas,
Smoking is not illegal and also smoking is never likely to die out completely. I'd rather have a smoker who stubs their dump on the ground than the chewing gum brigade who spit it out when finished and just leave that too for people to stand on.

I have never ever smoked and never will but smoking is legal, the Govt makes a fortune from smokers, even those on benefits who smoke return much of their benefit to the Govts coffers in tobacco duty.
Smokers are doing nothing illegal so the prejudiced need to accept that fact and live and let live.