Orange Walks

[Pyramid*]

Here we go again.

I hate these things: in the next town away: the walk is currently marching - about 90% of the shops have closed for the next few hours - and all I can hear are drums, flutes etc.

The place is at an utter standstill - and having seen some the the more 'respectable' ones - watching chavs following, swigging Cider / Lager / Buckie in one hand, dragging their kiddies with the other *- and knowing merry hell will erupt only too soon.

It's incredibly intimidating, it's full of bigotry no matter which way it's viewed and is a complete disruption.

Why on earth this all still is allowed to go on - beats the hell out of me.

*Rant over*

[seanraff07]

They are ****ing wankers, they should piss off, and I don't mean just today.

*waits for Novo to shoot me down*

[Lee.]

I'm completely against them.. I really don't know why they're allowed to be honest!

[Pyramid*]

Don't know how to edit my title.... but I of course, include HIBS walks in this as well.

Just mentioned Orange Walk as it's today - just to clear that one up!

[Niall]

What is this? I'm confused.

[CharlieO]

What is an orange walk?

[seanraff07]

Don't know how to edit my title.... but I of course, include HIBS walks in this as well.

Just mentioned Orange Walk as it's today - just to clear that one up!

That is more of a Republican march. We, Hibernian FC, haven't had a band in years and if we did it would have no association to the club whatsoever.

I amn't for it at all, thank god they tossers don't bother singing that ****e at our games, that would be embarrassing.

[Stu]

Scum of the earth.

[Lee.]

What is an orange walk?

It's when a bunch of nutters/trouble makers get together, play some flute and drums and mar h about the streets to remind us we are a protestant country. :crazy:

[Jords]

I was gonna ask what they are too :laugh:

[Pyramid*]

That is more of a Republican march. We, Hibernian FC, haven't had a band in years and if we did it would have no association to the club whatsoever.

I amn't for it at all, thank god they tossers don't bother singing that ****e at our games, that would be embarrassing.


I know.. But if I dont' include it ... therein lies the opportunity for me being branded a bigot.

[seanraff07]

I know.. But if I dont' include it ... therein lies the opportunity for me being branded a bigot.

Yeah, I was just saying incase anyone thought you meant Hibernian FC. We moved on from that crap in the 70's... just wish the Old Firm would do the same, but that's not happening any time soon.

[CharlieO]

It's when a bunch of nutters/trouble makers get together, play some flute and drums and mar h about the streets to remind us we are a protestant country. :crazy:

:shocked: sounds annoying.

In this costal town I'm in once a year some gangs (pagans or something) go stab each other on the beach.

[Pyramid*]

It's when a bunch of nutters/trouble makers get together, play some flute and drums and mar h about the streets to remind us we are a protestant country. :crazy:

and often, they will stop outside a Celtic pub / club...for nothing more than to antagonise.

I remember unwholly hell kicking off where I live a few years ago when the police actually allowed this to happen - they route had been given the 'okay' - knowing exactly what would erupt.

[Pyramid*]

:shocked: sounds annoying.

In this costal town I'm in once a year some gangs (pagans or something) go stab each other on the beach.

it's hard to describe Charlie if you haven't witnessed it - the atmosphere is fully charged - and not in a good way. You are just waiting for when it will kick off: and when it does, it is in the most brutal of ways: with NO ONE being given exception.

It is the most intimidating, threatning situation. And rather than getting 'better' - it seems to get worse with each passing year.

Bigotry exists on both sides: and it's those ones that incite - nay, thrive on this type of thing - as it is nothing more than an excuse for serious rammies to kick off. It's horrible.

I'm no 'wallflower' type - as everyone on here knows... I'm a bolshy mare - but even this: scares the hell out of me.

[seanraff07]

Hibs are playing our arch Edinburgh Rivals Hearts, on the 27th August. I solely have came up with the plan of us starting a march/corteo from Easter Road Stadium, to Tynecastle Stadium. But the Haymarket, Roseburn etc route, there is no Jambos there on derby day, so is completely safe and will avoid any trouble. But I'm being told by fellow Hibbys that if I approach the Police first then I will get knocked back.

If I get knocked back for a march to Tynecastle, with a safe route I have already planned out. Yet they let they ****ty Orange/HIBS walks go ahead that are out to cause trouble, I'll be well and truly raged.

[Pyramid*]

Hibs are playing our arch Edinburgh Rivals Hearts, on the 27th August. I solely have came up with the plan of us starting a march/corteo from Easter Road Stadium, to Tynecastle Stadium. But the Haymarket, Roseburn etc route, there is no Jambos there on derby day, so is completely safe and will avoid any trouble. But I'm being told by fellow Hibbys that if I approach the Police first then I will get knocked back.

If I get knocked back for a march to Tynecastle, with a safe route I have already planned out. Yet they let they ****ty Orange/HIBS walks go ahead that are out to cause trouble, I'll be well and truly raged.

I have to agree - but if you do approach for consent - it would be interesting to perhaps come back on this thread to update?

The Police / Protestant connection - in Scotland (and certainly the west of scotland) - still is very prevailant - despite what they would like us all to believe.


I think the Hibbees..... that's a different slant - and I'd hate to think this kind of nonsense would hit the East side too..... but I've learned in life, never to be surprised.

[Niall]

It's when a bunch of nutters/trouble makers get together, play some flute and drums and mar h about the streets to remind us we are a protestant country. :crazy:

Oh for Christ sake why do people actually care. :bored: I'd be sf annoyed if they did that where I live. D;

[seanraff07]

I have to agree - but if you do approach for consent - it would be interesting to perhaps come back on this thread to update?

The Police / Protestant connection - in Scotland (and certainly the west of scotland) - still is very prevailant - despite what they would like us all to believe.


I think the Hibbees..... that's a different slant - and I'd hate to think this kind of nonsense would hit the East side too..... but I've learned in life, never to be surprised.

Yeah I shall do, I am going to clearly state to them that we are Ultras, not Hooligans looking for trouble, if I wanted that then I would go the Gorgie route, past Robbo's bar where the so called 'CSF' will be asking for bother.

I'm doing it for pre-match atmosphere, get everyone fired up for it, and then carry that on into the ground so our end is near-full 30 mins before kick-off and we outsing them.

Hearts have lowered themselves into basically being a mini Rangers, with their UJ and Red Hand of Ulster flags, singing Rule Britannia, GSTQ and No Pope of Rome. But I honestly think our whole support are better than to resort to that rubbish.

[Niamh.]

I didn't realise they did those in Scotland too, I thought it was only Northern Ireland. Personally, I think anything like that, that's purpose seems to be to antagonise people is bad and shouldn't be allowed.

[Pyramid*]

Yeah I shall do, I am going to clearly state to them that we are Ultras, not Hooligans looking for trouble, if I wanted that then I would go the Gorgie route, past Robbo's bar where the so called 'CSF' will be asking for bother.

I'm doing it for pre-match atmosphere, get everyone fired up for it, and then carry that on into the ground so our end is near-full 30 mins before kick-off and we outsing them.

Hearts have lowered themselves into basically being a mini Rangers, with their UJ and Red Hand of Ulster flags, singing Rule Britannia, GSTQ and No Pope of Rome. But I honestly think our whole support are better than to resort to that rubbish.

I'm not a footie fan - didn't realise this: and it's sad to hear. The bit that really 'gets me' - is that it IS, in most cases, the minority who completely tar the rest with the same brush.

[Vicky.]

Never heard of orange walks before...sounds pretty pointless tbh. Just more religious bull that causes trouble :/

[Pyramid*]

I didn't realise they did those in Scotland too, I thought it was only Northern Ireland. Personally, I think anything like that, that's purpose seems to be to antagonise people is bad and shouldn't be allowed.

Yep....... those who are 'interested', the whole social summer calendar is geared up and around the big walk......

hours later and I am now utterly sick of banging drums, flutes ruining what otherwise would be a gorgeous, sunny, peaceful Satruday afternoon- and anyone in their right minds are not venturing far - as the whole place is at a standstill.

hope they all suffer serious sunburn. :blush2:

[InOne]

Yes **** off you Orange bastards :bored:

[Novo]

I am going to one in Liverpool this year

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[Stu]

That'll go down well. Scousers have an infamous sense of humour.

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'Talk about how great we are!'

[Novo]

to be fair to Liverpool they get well in the spirit for July 12th and you find that near enough all of them are fans of Liverpool

[Pyramid*]

I am going to one in Liverpool this year



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Now the bear one ....very funny!!

[Shaun]

I find it amazing that they make so much fuss over what is essentially nothing

[Rob]

what exactly is the point of this "walk"

[Pyramid*]

what exactly is the point of this "walk"


Depending on which 'side' a person is on: that's one of those very loaded questions Rob.

Some will say - absolutely no point other than to antagonise.

some will say there is a very purposeful meaning and that it is a celebration, anniversary / recognition etc.

In my mind: any true celebration does not exclude anyone - which these type of Walks do...

[Rob]

Depending on which 'side' a person is on: that's one of those very loaded questions Rob.

Some will say - absolutely no point other than to antagonise.

some will say there is a very purposeful meaning and that it is a celebration, anniversary / recognition etc.

In my mind: any true celebration does not exclude anyone - which these type of Walks do...

All seems very pointless to me!

[Lewis.]

Never heard of it before... does it mainly happen in the big city's?

[Stu]

All seems very pointless to me!
Let's hope the weather is good for it!!!!!!!!

[Shaun]

post in every subforum to have every last post!!!

[Stu]

I love when it happens. He never breaks cloud but like once a week you get a fifteen minute torrential downpour blitz of non content before he eases off and things settle back to a mild breeze.

[patsylimerick]

I've often wondered about the rationale behind wanting to belong to the Orange Order. If you have to flaunt a perceived superiority over your fellow citizens then, to my mind, you must be suffering from an almost crippling inferiority complex. I can see no other rational explanation for it. There's a desperation about having to belong to something, even if, or especially if, that something promotes hatred. If you can only takecomfort from finding something negative in 'the other' you are worthy only of pity.

[Josy]

They walked through my street about a half hour ago, my head is thumping too and the big drum made it worse :mad:

[keithafc]

I am going to one in Liverpool this year

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/historic_figures/images/william_iii.jpg

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King billy on the wall. :hugesmile:

[billy123]

Without wanting to get too involved in this discussion as someone that has seen first hand the extremes of both sides of this unrest i have to suggest that staging a parade has to be seen as a far more civilised and intelligent way of stating your beliefs than (90% students) trying to bomb,shoot,petrol bomb,intimidate and riot your standpoint into being accepted.

A wise man once said "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."

[Pyramid*]

Without wanting to get too involved in this discussion as someone that has seen first hand the extremes of both sides of this unrest i have to suggest that staging a parade has to be seen as a far more civilised and intelligent way of stating your beliefs than (90% students) trying to bomb,shoot,petrol bomb,intimidate and riot your standpoint into being accepted.

A wise man once said "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."

The problem is bobnot: they don't just parade. They antagonise, they provoke. The atmosphere is one charged with aggression. Looking back on what PatsyLimerick posted and that all stands true. They are staging a parade based on their perceived superirority over others.

These bands march, knowing that many followers are there with no other reason that to vocally and physically 'get it right up' others and they are allowed to do that very publically - with no connection to the Orangemen / Orange order - yet still knowing this: these marches (not some nice fluffy community binding parade) are allowed to continue. And I mean in respect of 'both sides of the fence'

[patsylimerick]

Without wanting to get too involved in this discussion as someone that has seen first hand the extremes of both sides of this unrest i have to suggest that staging a parade has to be seen as a far more civilised and intelligent way of stating your beliefs than (90% students) trying to bomb,shoot,petrol bomb,intimidate and riot your standpoint into being accepted.

A wise man once said "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."

Both sides of what 'unrest'? Why do you need to parade to state your beliefs? Come to that, why do you have to 'state' your beliefs at all? If you are a Protestant, it's simply a matter of which particular brand of Christianity you subscribe to. And there's no brand of Christianity that I'm familiar with that urges you to get out there, stick your metaphorical tongue out and chant 'na, na, nana, na; I'm better than you.........'

[billy123]

If some people find the protestant irish antagonistic then before they can tackle it they need to get their own image of intimidation and violence under check before they can hold that up as a valid argument.
This is my last post on this matter as i have no wish to get into an argument over this matter on here as there is no happy medium.

Protestant irish celebrating who they are.

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V the republican equivalent. (st patricks day celebration)

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[patsylimerick]

If some people find the protestant irish antagonistic then before they can tackle it they need to get their own image of intimidation and violence under check before they can hold that up as a valid argument.
This is my last post on this matter as i have no wish to get into an argument over this matter on here.

Protestant irish celebrating who they are.

D0dJHVPZzz8


V the republican equivalent.

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What an absolutely, breathtakingly ridiculous post! First off - the thread refers to SCOTTISH Protestants. Secondly, what exactly are you suggesting with the bit in bold? I'm going to come on the thread and call you a violent terrorist and then just piss off because I cannot back up my stupid point?

[Niamh.]

Yeah, Orange parades through Nationalist areas aren't trying to antagonise anyone Bobnot :rolleyes:

[Pyramid*]

What an absolutely, breathtakingly ridiculous post! First off - the thread refers to SCOTTISH Protestants. Secondly, what exactly are you suggesting with the bit in bold? I'm going to come on the thread and call you a violent terrorist and then just piss off because I cannot back up my stupid point?

This.

[Novo]

Well actually the OP never said it refers to Scottish Protestants i got the impression she was referring to Orange Walks in all parts of Britain

....... bit strange making a thread that refers only to Scottish Protestants and titling it " Orange Walks " when they actually happen in N.Ireland, Wales and England as well. :crazy:

[Novo]

If some people find the protestant irish antagonistic then before they can tackle it they need to get their own image of intimidation and violence under check before they can hold that up as a valid argument.
This is my last post on this matter as i have no wish to get into an argument over this matter on here as there is no happy medium.

Protestant irish celebrating who they are.

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V the republican equivalent. (st patricks day celebration)

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Spot on

the way some people act you'd think there was full on riots at Orange walks.

[Locke.]

Didn't know these things were about religion thought they just liked playing music and driving me insane.

They come down my street about once a month

[patsylimerick]

Spot on

the way some people act you'd think there was full on riots at Orange walks.

Which do you think, honestly, lead to more violent conflict? St Patrick's Day Parades or Orange Order 'walks'?

[Novo]

Which do you think, honestly, lead to more violent conflict? St Patrick's Day Parades or Orange Order 'walks'?

Roughly about the same depending where they are and who is there

so get your green tinted shades off.

[Stu]

I just can't reconcile myself with any of it. It's this whole idea of a half baked national and religious identity becoming ones hobby, isin't it. Grown men dressed as toy soldiers marching down the street to declare they belong to group X and not group Y. Followed by an even bigger pack of cross eyed troglodytes who don't really practice the protestant faith at all - one of the cornerstones of the order - and have about as much of a grasp on British history as a chip bag.

I take the exact same view with our own barstool republican knuckleheads. I'm Republican not Loyalist. I'm Loyalist not Republican. This is who I am and I sort of have a vague idea of the creed and history of the march I'm following and I want that guy standing outside Curry's to realize that.

You're a grown man in a world full of wonderous and interesting things to do. Evolve, please.

[patsylimerick]

Roughly about the same depending where they are and who is there

so get your green tinted shades off.

Why don't you try addressing the topic rather than the poster? Seeing as how St. Patrick's Day parade are held and enjoyed all over the world as a celebration, and Orange Order 'walks' are only held in the UK, your first sentence doesn't even make sense. How about some statistics or links demonstrating the cause and effect between St Patrick's Day parades and riots? What a complete load of nonsense :joker:

[patsylimerick]

I just can't reconcile myself with any of it. It's this whole idea of a half baked national and religious identity becoming ones hobby, isin't it. Grown men dressed as toy soldiers marching down the street to declare they belong to group X and not group Y. Followed by an even bigger pack of cross eyed troglodytes who don't really practice the protestant faith at all - one of the cornerstones of the order - and have about as much of a grasp on British history as a chip bag.

I take the exact same view with our own barstool republican knuckleheads. I'm Republican not Loyalist. I'm Loyalist not Republican. This is who I am and I sort of have a vague idea of the creed and history of the march I'm following and I want that guy standing outside Curry's to realize that.

You're a grown man in a world full of wonderous and interesting things to do. Evolve, please.


Excellent post.

[Novo]

Why don't you try addressing the topic rather than the poster? Seeing as how St. Patrick's Day parade are held and enjoyed all over the world as a celebration, and Orange Order 'walks' are only held in the UK, your first sentence doesn't even make sense. How about some statistics or links demonstrating the cause and effect between St Patrick's Day parades and riots? What a complete load of nonsense :joker:

It makes plenty of sense.. You get trouble on both days of the year depending where it's held and who is there like i said.. it's not to hard for you to understand is it? People don't like or celebrate St Patrick's day celebrations where i am from and the Orange Walks aren't welcomed in parts of Britain and Ireland.. and Orange Walks have been held in Australia before now to add to your " Orange Walks are only held in the UK " statement and it's pretty much always going to be around St Patrick's day and the Twelfth. So just let people enjoy it.. a bit of trouble here and there is going to happen on both sides that's why the police are there.

[Livia]

I can understand people wanting to retain their history and culture, but I'm sorry they can't find a way of doing it that isn't so disruptive and upsetting to the rest of the population. People have a right to march if they want to, but would they allow neo-Nazis to march through Muswell Hill? No, because it would be provocative. Would they let the BNP march down Brick Lane? No, because it would be provocative. I can't understand the mentality of people who want to cling on to something doggedly knowing that it will provoke confrontation.

[Niamh.]

I can understand people wanting to retain their history and culture, but I'm sorry they can't find a way of doing it that isn't so disruptive and upsetting to the rest of the population. People have a right to march if they want to, but would they allow neo-Nazis to march through Muswell Hill? No, because it would be provocative. Would they let the BNP march down Brick Lane? No, because it would be provocative. I can't understand the mentality of people who want to cling on to something doggedly knowing that it will provoke confrontation.

Exactly.

[patsylimerick]

It makes plenty of sense.. You get trouble on both days of the year depending where it's held and who is there like i said.. it's not to hard for you to understand is it? People don't like or celebrate St Patrick's day celebrations where i am from and the Orange Walks aren't welcomed in parts of Britain and Ireland.. and Orange Walks have been held in Australia before now to add to your " Orange Walks are only held in the UK " statement and it's pretty much always going to be around St Patrick's day and the Twelfth. So just let people enjoy it.. a bit of trouble here and there is going to happen on both sides that's why the police are there.

It's simply not true. There are riots after Orange parades because the parades aim to taunt and provoke. They feature men and teenage boys banging drums in uniforms. St Patrick's Day parades, on the other hand, feature men women and children of all ages, with humorous, cultural floats, dancing and athletic groups, community organisations, participants from any enthnic, age or culture group who want to get involved. They are purposely INCLUSIVE. And kudos if there were a couple of Orange walks in Australia - there are, however, St Patrick's Day parades, as I said, all over the world. There is absolutely no logical comparison between the two.

[patsylimerick]

I can understand people wanting to retain their history and culture, but I'm sorry they can't find a way of doing it that isn't so disruptive and upsetting to the rest of the population. People have a right to march if they want to, but would they allow neo-Nazis to march through Muswell Hill? No, because it would be provocative. Would they let the BNP march down Brick Lane? No, because it would be provocative. I can't understand the mentality of people who want to cling on to something doggedly knowing that it will provoke confrontation.

Well said, Livia; that's the heart of it, really.

[Novo]

It's simply not true. There are riots after Orange parades because the parades aim to taunt and provoke. They feature men and teenage boys banging drums in uniforms. St Patrick's Day parades, on the other hand, feature men women and children of all ages, with humorous, cultural floats, dancing and athletic groups, community organisations, participants from any enthnic, age or culture group who want to get involved. They are purposely INCLUSIVE. And kudos if there were a couple of Orange walks in Australia - there are, however, St Patrick's Day parades, as I said, all over the world. There is absolutely no logical comparison between the two.

You are deluded then

[patsylimerick]

Keep telling yourself that, Novo.

Meanwhile:

LONDON EYE GOES GREEN FOR ST PATRICK'S DAY (http://www.viewlondon.co.uk/whatson/green-london-eye-article-9484.html)

TABLE MOUNTAIN GOES GREEN OR ST PATRICK'S DAY (http://www.africanbusinessreview.co.za/tags/guinness/st-patricks-day-cape-town-even-table-mountain-goes-green)

The Moulin Rouge became 'The Moulin Vert' last years; anyone remember any of these turning themselves orange? :joker:

[keithafc]

Which do you think, honestly, lead to more violent conflict? St Patrick's Day Parades or Orange Order 'walks'?
The vast vast majority of them pass off peacefully. The majority of them around the 12th or 13th end up going to a field and playing traditional music.

[Novo]

Keep telling yourself that, Novo.

Meanwhile:

LONDON EYE GOES GREEN FOR ST PATRICK'S DAY (http://www.viewlondon.co.uk/whatson/green-london-eye-article-9484.html)

TABLE MOUNTAIN GOES GREEN OR ST PATRICK'S DAY (http://www.africanbusinessreview.co.za/tags/guinness/st-patricks-day-cape-town-even-table-mountain-goes-green)

The Moulin Rouge became 'The Moulin Vert' last years; anyone remember any of these turning themselves orange? :joker:

No but i remember the most successful football team ever Rangers having an Orange shirt that's good enough for me.

[patsylimerick]

The vast vast majority of them pass off peacefully. The majority of them around the 12th or 13th end up going to a field and playing traditional music.

Listen, I wasn't the one who brought the absolutely laugh out loud comparison between Orange Parades and St Patrick's Day parades into the thread. I'm delighted to hear MOST of them pass off peacefully. Quite a significant number of them don't. The only problem at Paddy's Day parade are drunken idiots losing the run of themselves - which happens at any large public event. The discussion was about the 'intent' of an Orange parade; particularly when the route is targetted to cause upset.

[patsylimerick]

No but i remember the most successful football team ever Rangers having an Orange shirt that's good enough for me.

:laugh3: brilliant. Thanks for that Novo.

[Novo]

:laugh3: brilliant. Thanks for that Novo.

Thanks for what? Know your history... they have won more trophies then any other club.

[patsylimerick]

Thanks for what? Know your history... they have won more trophies then any other club.

First, it's not history. It's football. Second, are you counting Scottish titles there? :laugh3: You are, aren't you? *am seriously heading towards a pmsl here*

[Novo]

First, it's not history. It's football. Second, are you counting Scottish titles there? :laugh3: You are, aren't you? *am seriously heading towards a pmsl here*

Football has History as well you know :crazy: just like near enough everything else in this world.. and yeah off course i am counting the Scottish titles.. as you may not know Scottish football use to be at a high standard even not so long ago in the 90's and 80's.

Oh and by the way #54.. it felt Amazing.

[Novo]

This doesn't really belong here anyway so if you want to talk about the Success of Rangers FC AKA the Simply the best go to " Talk Football " :D

[joeysteele]

I can understand people wanting to retain their history and culture, but I'm sorry they can't find a way of doing it that isn't so disruptive and upsetting to the rest of the population. People have a right to march if they want to, but would they allow neo-Nazis to march through Muswell Hill? No, because it would be provocative. Would they let the BNP march down Brick Lane? No, because it would be provocative. I can't understand the mentality of people who want to cling on to something doggedly knowing that it will provoke confrontation.

All I will say is I agree completely with your comments.An exact and reasoned post as always.

[Pyramid*]

Well actually the OP never said it refers to Scottish Protestants i got the impression she was referring to Orange Walks in all parts of Britain

....... bit strange making a thread that refers only to Scottish Protestants and titling it " Orange Walks " when they actually happen in N.Ireland, Wales and England as well. :crazy:

Roughly about the same depending where they are and who is there

so get your green tinted shades off.

You are deluded then

No but i remember the most successful football team ever Rangers having an Orange shirt that's good enough for me.

Thanks for what? Know your history... they have won more trophies then any other club.

Football has History as well you know :crazy: just like near enough everything else in this world.. and yeah off course i am counting the Scottish titles.. as you may not know Scottish football use to be at a high standard even not so long ago in the 90's and 80's.

.

This doesn't really belong here anyway so if you want to talk about the Success of Rangers FC AKA the Simply the best go to " Talk Football " :D


Few pointers here Novo.

1. I live in Scotland - as you and most of the forum are aware of
2. I referred clearly to hearing Orange Walks/Bands - in Scotland
3. Clearly you have selective reading capabilites when it suits you
3. The only person on here throwing insults around.. is you
4. The person who began going on about Rangers / Orange etc was you - toally off topic yet you patronise Patsy for addressing your posts on the sujbect
5. The OP made it very clear that she is in Scotland. The OP made it very clear that Orange Walks take place in Scotland. The OP made it very clear she was referring to what she experiences in Scotland.

Next time you want some reasonable debate: try reading what is written - instead of throwing petty insults around - because you behaving in the manner you are: is doing nothing more than proving my very point for me.

[Novo]

Few pointers here Novo.

1. I live in Scotland - as you and most of the forum are aware of
2. I referred clearly to hearing Orange Walks/Bands - in Scotland
3. Clearly you have selective reading capabilites when it suits you
3. The only person on here throwing insults around.. is you
4. The person who began going on about Rangers / Orange etc was you - toally off topic yet you patronise Patsy for addressing your posts on the sujbect
5. The OP made it very clear that she is in Scotland. The OP made it very clear that Orange Walks take place in Scotland. The OP made it very clear she was referring to what she experiences in Scotland.

Next time you want some reasonable debate: try reading what is written - instead of throwing petty insults around - because you behaving in the manner you are: is doing nothing more than proving my very point for me.

Thank you for bolding all my great points i have made in this thread Pyramid

[Novo]

And i never knew you lived in Scotland... how am i suppose to know that it doesn't exactly say in your location that you are from Scotland and your username doesn't indicate you are ( Egypt if anything )

[Pyramid*]

And i never knew you lived in Scotland... how am i suppose to know that it doesn't exactly say in your location that you are from Scotland and your username doesn't indicate you are ( Egypt if anything )

Easy..if you had actually READ the posts on the thread - it's more than obvious.

[Novo]

Easy..if you had actually READ the posts on the thread - it's more than obvious.

I couldn't be bothered reading all your posts after the first one about the Orangemen upsetting you with their big drums and loud noises :( must be hell for you

[Pyramid*]

I couldn't be bothered reading all your posts after the first one about the Orangemen upsetting you with their big drums and loud noises :( must be hell for you


you didn't have to read all my posts after the first one Novo. Other fms commented about them happening in Scotland. Or is it that you simply didn't bother to read many of the posts and just came charging in......... ;)

[karezza]

This thread is bigotted & anti-Protestant. Can it be removed? Are you allowed to be anti-Protestant on this forum & not anti-Roman Catholic?

[Niamh.]

This thread is bigotted & anti-Protestant. Can it be removed? Are you allowed to be anti-Protestant on this forum & not anti-Roman Catholic?

Both sides of the argument have been represented in this thread without anyone getting insulting.

[Pyramid*]

Don't know how to edit my title.... but I of course, include HIBS walks in this as well.

Just mentioned Orange Walk as it's today - just to clear that one up!

This thread is bigotted & anti-Protestant. Can it be removed? Are you allowed to be anti-Protestant on this forum & not anti-Roman Catholic?

I take it you missed this rather salient post Karezza, therefore I'm taking the time to point it out to you. It was posted very early on the thread.

Hibs Walks being the 'opposite side' of the fence - ie: R.C. to which I pointedly state that this thread refers to as well.

[seanraff07]

It's just ****ing sad really, especially when you see the 50 year-old Huns with their Rangers tops on, with a Lidl bag in their hand, with their 3 year old daughter singing No Pope of Rome and all the rest of the drivel you lot sing.

[InOne]

Guess that joke "Are you a Catholic Atheist or a Protestant Atheist" still stands

[Grimnir]

orangemen marches are english pretending to be irish celebrating being dutch :tongue:

[patsylimerick]

Guess that joke "Are you a Catholic Atheist or a Protestant Atheist" still stands

orangemen marches are english pretending to be irish celebrating being dutch :tongue:

We should have just gone with these two at the start and we'd have saved ourselves four pages (and me a whopping great migraine) :bawling: