Even though we may not be getting live feed.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Im happy having constant video updates on Facebook.

As long as they are every hour and not just 10 minutes but whole conversations i will be happy.

Ofcourse i would prefer live feed but lets face it alot more people will take notice on FACEBOOK as the majority of viewers dont even watch live feed as they are under the illusion its all bird noise.

[Harry!]

I am not. I HATE THAT SITE! BB are sellouts!

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I am not. I HATE THAT SITE! BB are sellouts!

Change that flashy thing youve got on your avatar its making wanna have a fit

[CharlieO]

I'm not happy with it. Live feed would be unexplainably better, and I'm not that interested in edited Facebook updaters.

['Conor]

never watched live feed so :idc:

but the fb stuff sounds cool :)

[happybbfan]

http://www.keeplivefeed.co.nr/

[Stu]

Facebook updates are fine but when it's used as an excuse as opposed to an add on it baffles me. 'We aren't going to do live feed because we are looking to expand to Facebook instead'.

Well just do both then. It's pretty easy and it's not a case of this or that. Or at least just be honest and say 'we couldn't really be arsed with the live feed this year and by getting more people to go to Facebook instead we can make loads of advertising revenue by blanketing 40 second updates with 60 second adverts'.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I'm not happy with it. Live feed would be unexplainably better, and I'm not that interested in edited Facebook updaters.

I honestly do think that that alot more people will view the online content on facebook.

Im gutted live feed is not coming back and think its a bad move by Channel 5 but as long as we get constant updates on Facebook and hopefully the official site i can deal.

I also want live feed directly after highlights for a few hours especially after evictions.

[Harry!]

Change that flashy thing youve got on your avatar its making wanna have a fit

*signature

Andd it is the Queen Madonna Confessions discoball <3

[daniel-lewis-1985]

*signature

Andd it is the Queen Madonna Confessions discoball <3

Its making me sketchy.

[JohnnyBB]

Ill give launch night a watch, and if i feel like i could watch the show without live feed ill go from there, but if theres no live feed watsoever i ant going to stick around to watch it.

[happybbfan]

The article refers to an online live feed as maybe not happening.It does not mention the live streaming on 5*.No official word from C5 as yet.

[Harry!]

Its making me sketchy.

Removed it, I was going to change it anyway.

[Jordan.]

No all they give us is them crappy videos that take an hour to buffer then lag all the way through.

+ Not everyone uses facebook.

[lostalex]

there's no excuse not to have live feed. it costs nor more than 15 bucks an hour each for two intern film students to edit it and trasmit it. there's no reason not to have a live feed.

[happybbfan]

No all they give us is them crappy videos that take an hour to buffer then lag all the way through.

+ Not everyone uses facebook.

Those were awful in BB10 and your right not all of us use facebook but i would expect that the majority do.What i cant understand is if they choose to go down the route of no live feed at all,how the hell they expect to sustain viewers for more than 1 week.On launch night viewers will be looking for a red button or internet streaming so C5 can expect to recieve a lot of bad press over the issue.This just doesnt sit right with a channel which will have paid so much money for a show and would want it to suceed.C4 didnt give a toss about the show so they didnt care what people thought about live feed but i cant see C5 thinking the same.If they do then the show wont last this year let alone be shown next.

[AJ.]

Out of the other 70+ countries that show BB how many don't have LF? It isn't BB without LF.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Hmm maybe im just settling.

I do want live feed but if they could post like 4 videos an hour that will pretty much keep us in the loop but its obviously still not what we all want.

I really hope they have like 2 hours live feed directly after highlights and evictions so we can see the housemates reactions.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Even though i like FB, i dont like the idea of watching a couple of min video every so often through the day, i would rather have 24/7 LF.

[happybbfan]

If you are happy with what C4 did and gave us about 10 minutes worth of clips a day and twitter updates which stopped after 6pm as the moniters went home then fine but for me its live feed 24/7 or nothing.If however they can come up with long houly clips on facebook that need to be monitered then why cant they do it 24/7,

[AJ.]

4 vids an hour? I would expect <4 a day!

70 countries & we're the only one without LF? Totally loses the point of the show.. look at Endemol's own description of the show;
No phones, newspapers, radios or televisions. They're all alone... except for the millions watching and judging their every move.

Cameras and microphones are placed all over the house. Everything the housemates do is recorded and broadcast on television and the internet. They can't eat, sleep or chill out without the nation clocking their every move.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

4 vids an hour? I would expect <4 a day!

70 countries & we're the only one without LF? Totally loses the point of the show.. look at Endemol's own description of the show;

exactly jay, why the hell are we the only country not have 24/7 LF:devil:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

It does suck not having live feed i agree but for you guys that dont use facebook then im sure all us users will be posting the vids on here so we can all still discuss the goings on throughout the day.

I will just miss the late night live feed discussions :(

[happybbfan]

It does suck not having live feed i agree but for you guys that dont use facebook then im sure all us users will be posting the vids on here so we can all still discuss the goings on throughout the day.

I will just miss the late night live feed discussions :(

All 10 minutes worth wow that wont take too long then note to self must join facebook now

[daniel-lewis-1985]

All 10 minutes worth wow that wont take too long then note to self must join facebook now

You are just assuming that though.

I honestly think there will be constant updates all day.

Fingers crossed anyway.

Im still holding hope for live feed making a return

[happybbfan]

You are just assuming that though.

I honestly think there will be constant updates all day.

Fingers crossed anyway.

Im still holding hope for live feed making a return

C4 gave us 10 minutes worth of clips in 24 hours most days dont get your hopes up tto much

[AJ.]

Even if they updated us every 10 minutes I couldn't care less. It would be like your mate calling you from the cinema telling you what's happening, pointless & completely uninteresting.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Even if they updated us every 10 minutes I couldn't care less. It would be like your mate calling you from the cinema telling you what's happening, pointless & completely uninteresting.

Its nothing like that.

If we could have video updates every hour atleast it would be something

[AJ.]

Its nothing like that.

If we could have video updates every hour atleast it would be something

It's worse than nothing, they're taking the piss. If Albania, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Romania, Nigeria, Israel can all have LFs why can't we?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

It's worse than nothing, they're taking the piss. If Albania, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Romania, Nigeria, Israel can all have LFs why can't we?

Its not worse than nothing dont be rediculous

I want live feed as much as anyone but we need to face facts.

[AJ.]

Its not worse than nothing dont be rediculous

I want live feed as much as anyone but we need to face facts.

Imagine if they had done this last year, it would just be bias clips of John & Josie, you don't think that is worse than nothing?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Imagine if they had done this last year, it would just be bias clips of John & Josie, you don't think that is worse than nothing?

Well it just angered fans anyway coz they could see the producers were favouring them and editing them biased so cant win can we.

But ya'know what...Out of sight out of mind.

[DigitalSid]

Im happy having constent video updates on Facebook.

As long as they are every hour or something i will be happy.

Ofcourse i would prefer live feed but lets face it alot more people will take notice on FACEBOOK as the majority of viewers dont even watch live feed as they are under the illusion its all bird noise.

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/345/facepalmsmiley.gif

Posts like these are counter-productive, the producers read here undecided, see posts like this, think we'll all roll over as easy as you will, resigned to defeat and then take the cheapest option.

[Sam:)]

imo I payed for a season pass on bb11 and I only watched it twice,If Im honest if they gave us a five minute clip every hour I would probably waych that over live feed

[daniel-lewis-1985]

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/345/facepalmsmiley.gif

Posts like these are counter-productive, the producers read here undecided, see posts like this, think we'll all roll over as easy as you will, resigned to defeat and then take the cheapest option.

Mate they would have decided by now wether they are having live feed or not anyway.

Do you really think they come on TIBB and make the show based on our opinions?

Mug

[DigitalSid]

Mate they would have decided by now wether they are having live feed or not anyway.

Do you really think they come on TIBB and make the show based on our opinions?

Mug

No, but they will read these forums to see what the general feel is about the show as a whole and posts like yours will subconsciously influence their decision, which Jeff Ford has said hasn't been made yet.

Though 40% of the big decisions for BB11 were inspired by DS members ;).

[daniel-lewis-1985]

No, but they will read these forums to see what the general feel is about the show as a whole and posts like yours will subconsciously influence their decision, which Jeff Ford has said hasn't been made yet.

Though 40% of the big decisions for BB11 were inspired by DS members ;).

:xyxwave:

[keithafc]

People don't like to admit it but the actual Live feed is REALLY flawed and isn't up to a great standard at all. I can understand personal information being sounded out but it is a nonsense when they sound out a lot on the live feed.

It completely makes the live feed pointless if i can't hear the conversations.

[DigitalSid]

:xyxwave:

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/member.php?u=338838 ;)

[daniel-lewis-1985]

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/member.php?u=338838 ;)

Whats this about?

[joeysteele]

People don't like to admit it but the actual Live feed is REALLY flawed and isn't up to a great standard at all. I can understand personal information being sounded out but it is a nonsense when they sound out a lot on the live feed.

It completely makes the live feed pointless if i can't hear the conversations.

I was glad live feed was there but I am not that bothered if it went now,as you said too it had a great many flaws and therefore annoyance to it.

[bbnut]

Video updates are no replacement for a proper feed. It doesn't even come close.

For me, live feed means I can stick it on while I'm cooking or cleaning and I don't have to have my full attention on it, but if something interesting happens, I can see it.

It means that I can stick it on at night and listen to conversations that I find interesting (because believe it or not, some HM's do have intelligent conversations) but producers don't deem 'entertaining' enough to make video clips and the HL's.

Sometimes you can learn alot about people from what they don't say and from their facial expressions, you see alot more of this on LF, even with the birdsong. You get to see alot more of peoples interactions that you'd never see on the HL's, but the HL's has to cut so much out to fit it into an hour and priority will be given to events that are funny, argumentative etc.

It also means seeing more of tasks, seeing reactions to nominations and evictions, the shopping list, lots of stuff that I find interesting.

Video clips on facebook (or any site for that matter) mean 30 seconds of a conversation, or more likely a video of someone falling over, with a 40 second advert preceding it. There will probably only be a dozen clips each day. It takes away the convenience of being able to watch/listen while you're busy because you have to be at the computer or phone, clicking each video. I'm not totally against videos and they were a great addition to the website, especially since you can view them on a phone while out and about, but they should be used alongside LF, not as a replacement.

If I'm completely honest, I'd never use the facebook page because most people I know would give me grief for watching bb, so I don't want it spead all over my facebook that I do watch it. On the same note, I don't want big brother spread thinly all over the net. If I want news, I'd rather go to one dedicated site than have to go to a channel 5 site, youtube, facebook, twitter and god knows what else, in addition to the two BB forums I use.

Having said all that, I'm not taking it as gospel that live feed is gone until it is confirmed. I just wanted to rant a bit.

Rant over.

[happybbfan]

Video updates are no replacement for a proper feed. It doesn't even come close.

For me, live feed means I can stick it on while I'm cooking or cleaning and I don't have to have my full attention on it, but if something interesting happens, I can see it.

It means that I can stick it on at night and listen to conversations that I find interesting (because believe it or not, some HM's do have intelligent conversations) but producers don't deem 'entertaining' enough to make video clips and the HL's.

Sometimes you can learn alot about people from what they don't say and from their facial expressions, you see alot more of this on LF, even with the birdsong. You get to see alot more of peoples interactions that you'd never see on the HL's, but the HL's has to cut so much out to fit it into an hour and priority will be given to events that are funny, argumentative etc.

It also means seeing more of tasks, seeing reactions to nominations and evictions, the shopping list, lots of stuff that I find interesting.

Video clips on facebook (or any site for that matter) mean 30 seconds of a conversation, or more likely a video of someone falling over, with a 40 second advert preceding it. There will probably only be a dozen clips each day. It takes away the convenience of being able to watch/listen while you're busy because you have to be at the computer or phone, clicking each video. I'm not totally against videos and they were a great addition to the website, especially since you can view them on a phone while out and about, but they should be used alongside LF, not as a replacement.

If I'm completely honest, I'd never use the facebook page because most people I know would give me grief for watching bb, so I don't want it spead all over my facebook that I do watch it. On the same note, I don't want big brother spread thinly all over the net. If I want news, I'd rather go to one dedicated site than have to go to a channel 5 site, youtube, facebook, twitter and god knows what else, in addition to the two BB forums I use.

Having said all that, I'm not taking it as gospel that live feed is gone until it is confirmed. I just wanted to rant a bit.

Rant over. Have you told channel5 this and i agree with you.How can it be BB if you cant see it.The whole concept of BB is being seen 24/7 having read 1984.The show wont last 2 weeks without it diving in the ratings,how the hell is is going to make it through 17 potential weeks i dont know.

[bbnut]

Have you told channel5 this and i agree with you.How can it be BB if you cant see it.The whole concept of BB is being seen 24/7 having read 1984.The show wont last 2 weeks without it diving in the ratings,how the hell is is going to make it through 17 potential weeks i dont know.

I haven't told channel 5 exactly that, but I did use the website you posted on twitter (I'm crunchynut86). I totally agree that 17 weeks of bb without a feed is going to fail miserably, which is such a shame, to be honest, as much as I love bb, 17 weeks was always going to be a tough one. I find during a series, I'll often have a week or two in the middle where I lose interest (BB 8 and 10 spring to mind) although I pick it up again towards the end. I just hope channel 5 have something spectacular up their sleeves, I doubt it though.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Video updates are no replacement for a proper feed. It doesn't even come close.

For me, live feed means I can stick it on while I'm cooking or cleaning and I don't have to have my full attention on it, but if something interesting happens, I can see it.

It means that I can stick it on at night and listen to conversations that I find interesting (because believe it or not, some HM's do have intelligent conversations) but producers don't deem 'entertaining' enough to make video clips and the HL's.

Sometimes you can learn alot about people from what they don't say and from their facial expressions, you see alot more of this on LF, even with the birdsong. You get to see alot more of peoples interactions that you'd never see on the HL's, but the HL's has to cut so much out to fit it into an hour and priority will be given to events that are funny, argumentative etc.

It also means seeing more of tasks, seeing reactions to nominations and evictions, the shopping list, lots of stuff that I find interesting.

Video clips on facebook (or any site for that matter) mean 30 seconds of a conversation, or more likely a video of someone falling over, with a 40 second advert preceding it. There will probably only be a dozen clips each day. It takes away the convenience of being able to watch/listen while you're busy because you have to be at the computer or phone, clicking each video. I'm not totally against videos and they were a great addition to the website, especially since you can view them on a phone while out and about, but they should be used alongside LF, not as a replacement.

If I'm completely honest, I'd never use the facebook page because most people I know would give me grief for watching bb, so I don't want it spead all over my facebook that I do watch it. On the same note, I don't want big brother spread thinly all over the net. If I want news, I'd rather go to one dedicated site than have to go to a channel 5 site, youtube, facebook, twitter and god knows what else, in addition to the two BB forums I use.

Having said all that, I'm not taking it as gospel that live feed is gone until it is confirmed. I just wanted to rant a bit.

Rant over.

You're embaressed about people seeing you watch the show on facebook?

Christ grow some balls.

Look i 100% agree that we should have live feed, Its what BB's all about but lets face it it doesnt look like we will be getting it. If it is the case that it doesnt come back then all im saying is that if there are constant videos posted every hour (not 30 second clips) then i will be happier then nothing at all.

And you dont need to go on twitter, youtube and facebook to keep up to date. I for one will be posting the links and news on here as im sure others will so we can all keep up with the goings on.

Im praying live feed returns but if not then we are gonna have to make the best of a bad situation.

Until we do get an official announcment though i agree we need to hound Channel 5 and i have signed the twitter page and sent Channel 5 an email (which i never even got a response to which really tells me they dont care coz i didnt even get an automated thanks for emailing message either).

If we dont even get a few hours of live feed in the afternoon or at night though i wont be happy.

Like i said before, 2 hour live feed after evictions would be perfect so we can see the housemates reactions. Also whenever the live feed is on in the evening i think the housemates should be ploughed with booze so people will actually want to watch lol

[bbnut]

You're embaressed about people seeing you watch the show on facebook?

Christ grow some balls.

Look i 100% agree that we should have live feed, Its what BB's all about but lets face it it doesnt look like we will be getting it. If it is the case that it doesnt come back then all im saying is that if there are constant videos posted every hour (not 30 second clips) then i will be happier then nothing at all.

And you dont need to go on twitter, youtube and facebook to keep up to date. I for one will be posting the links and news on here as im sure others will so we can all keep up with the goings on.

Im praying live feed returns but if not then we are gonna have to make the best of a bad situation.

Until we do get an official announcment though i agree we need to hound Channel 5 and i have signed the twitter page and sent Channel 5 an email (which i never even got a response to which really tells me they dont care coz i didnt even get an automated thanks for emailing message either).

If we dont even get a few hours of live feed in the afternoon or at night though i wont be happy.

Like i said before, 2 hour live feed after evictions would be perfect so we can see the housemates reactions. Also whenever the live feed is on in the evening i think the housemates should be ploughed with booze so people will actually want to watch lol

No need to be rude, it's my opinion, it's valid and I'm sticking to it :tongue:

It's not so much that I'm embarrassed, but I can't be bothered with people telling me how rubbish the programme is, which people did, alot. Unfortunately the majority of people I know thing BB is cheap, tacky, trash TV and would be delighted if the house was blown up. Not my view, but I don't tell everyone I watch it, because I don't want other people to ruin it for me. I bet I'm not the only one who thinks like that.

The thing is with the fb, twitter etc, is that I want to be able to go to one place for all my info and know I've seen it all, not have to click links all over the web (especially when I'm on my phone), it's just my personal preference and I don't see how spreading it all over the place makes it easier or better for anyone?

I agree though, it would have been nice to get some kind of response from channel 5, even if it was an automated reply as at least it would show they cared what viewers think.

As for making the best of a bad situation, I hope you're not saying that if the feed doesn't come back then you're just going to accept it and move on? Back when C4 dropped the feed, I was one of the ones who hounded them constantly, emailling any one who had anything to do will BB until we got it back, and it was worth it. The more people who refuse to quit, the better the chances we have.

[AJ.]

Whats this about?

BB's old exec producer's DS account.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

BB's old exec producer's DS account.

Oh yeah i know the producers check DS.

But when have you ever heard of them checking tibb.

We are the runt of the bb forum world

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Video updates are no replacement for a proper feed. It doesn't even come close.

For me, live feed means I can stick it on while I'm cooking or cleaning and I don't have to have my full attention on it, but if something interesting happens, I can see it.

It means that I can stick it on at night and listen to conversations that I find interesting (because believe it or not, some HM's do have intelligent conversations) but producers don't deem 'entertaining' enough to make video clips and the HL's.

Sometimes you can learn alot about people from what they don't say and from their facial expressions, you see alot more of this on LF, even with the birdsong. You get to see alot more of peoples interactions that you'd never see on the HL's, but the HL's has to cut so much out to fit it into an hour and priority will be given to events that are funny, argumentative etc.

It also means seeing more of tasks, seeing reactions to nominations and evictions, the shopping list, lots of stuff that I find interesting.

Video clips on facebook (or any site for that matter) mean 30 seconds of a conversation, or more likely a video of someone falling over, with a 40 second advert preceding it. There will probably only be a dozen clips each day. It takes away the convenience of being able to watch/listen while you're busy because you have to be at the computer or phone, clicking each video. I'm not totally against videos and they were a great addition to the website, especially since you can view them on a phone while out and about, but they should be used alongside LF, not as a replacement.

If I'm completely honest, I'd never use the facebook page because most people I know would give me grief for watching bb, so I don't want it spead all over my facebook that I do watch it. On the same note, I don't want big brother spread thinly all over the net. If I want news, I'd rather go to one dedicated site than have to go to a channel 5 site, youtube, facebook, twitter and god knows what else, in addition to the two BB forums I use.

Having said all that, I'm not taking it as gospel that live feed is gone until it is confirmed. I just wanted to rant a bit.

Rant over.

Great post, totally agree with everything you have just written.:hugesmile:

[DigitalSid]

Whats this about?

Phil Edgar Jones, the man in charge of BB when it was on C4 had a DS account for series 10 and 11 and admitted to reading the forums regularly for years before that, last year he regularly asked fans for feedback and input. So Endemol do allow at least slightly fans opinions to influence them.

[BBDodge]

Dissapointed with Endemol UK for agreeing this deal. They we too desperate to get it back on air at any cost.

[BringItOn]

Completely disagree, every show on TV uses FB. Live feed is BB and what makes it different to other shows.