View Full Version : Mega Bomb & Shootings in Oslo Norway [Death Toll:77]
arista
22-07-2011, 03:42 PM
Oslo has a History of attacks but this is a big bomb.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/22/article-2017709-0D1E4D0200000578-554_634x353.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/22/article-2017709-0D1DFBA300000578-233_634x356.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/22/article-2017709-0D1E3D9300000578-741_634x612.jpg
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Bomb-Explosion-In-Norwegian-Capital-Oslo---Police-Report-Deaths-And-Injuries/Article/201107416035628?lpos=World_News_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_16035628_Bomb_Explosion_In_Norwegian_C apital_Oslo_-_Police_Report_Deaths_And_Injuries_
"Huge bomb blast kills at least two in attack on government office block in Oslo"
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017709/BREAKING-NEWS-Huge-blast-hits-offices-Norwegian-PM.html#ixzz1Sqihht00
From SkyNews
Fertiliser Type Bomb is suspected.
Shaun
22-07-2011, 03:51 PM
:o poor guys.
Mystic Mock
22-07-2011, 03:54 PM
Its quite convient that Norway agree to take on Libya and then Norway gets bombed.
Seriously guys do not suspect Afghanistan Imo.
ILoveTRW
22-07-2011, 04:06 PM
Its quite convient that Norway agree to take on Libya and then Norway gets bombed.
Seriously guys do not suspect Afghanistan Imo.
Why would anyone suspect Afghanistan?
It'll be a 20 something Norwegian that hates the world.
arista
22-07-2011, 04:13 PM
Its quite convient that Norway agree to take on Libya and then Norway gets bombed.
Seriously guys do not suspect Afghanistan Imo.
There is a Arab they are about to Deport
so many suspects.
arista
22-07-2011, 04:17 PM
Why would anyone suspect Afghanistan?
It'll be a 20 something Norwegian that hates the world.
No the Type of the Bomb
with that Sulpher stink after it
is a Arab Design Bomb.
What we were due to get.
There Buildings have no protection like ours.
Mystic Mock
22-07-2011, 04:20 PM
Why would anyone suspect Afghanistan?
It'll be a 20 something Norwegian that hates the world.
Im on about Sky News mainly mentioning them,but I think a Libyan terrorist organisation has been formed and they did the bombing against Norway.
They might have mentioned Norway's involvement in Afghanistan as a motive but I doubt they actually blamed Afghanistan. And I don't think it's anything to do with Libya either, there's unlikely to be a pro-Gaddafi terrorist force bombing those who intervened in Libya and if there was the UK, France and the US would be far more likely targets.
If it is Islamic extremists who did this then Norway's military actions in Libya & Afghanistan might have been part of the motivation but you can't really say it was directly due to one of those two countries or an organisation from one of those two countries
Mystic Mock
22-07-2011, 04:33 PM
Sky News said Norway was an easy target unlike the UK,France and USA,so Libya went for them I think.
And also whoes to say that Libya wont go for UK,USA or France?
arista
22-07-2011, 04:36 PM
Sky News said Norway was an easy target unlike the UK,France and USA,so Libya went for them I think.
And also whoes to say that Libya wont go for UK,USA or France?
We do not know its Libya.
There is a Arab about to be kicked out of Norway
he made threats.
Oslo seems to get Hit every once and a while
good job its a Holiday
or even more would be Dead.
Mystic Mock
22-07-2011, 04:41 PM
We do not know its Libya.
There is a Arab about to be kicked out of Norway
he made threats.
Oslo seems to get Hit every once and a while
good job its a Holiday
or even more would be Dead.
You just said what my Brother just said about the holiday part lol.
Anyway we may not have proof it was Libya but it doesnt mean it wasnt Libya,and also if there is a Middle Eastern involved in this bombing,whoes to say that the Libyan terrorist organisation didnt pay him to do it,we all know what some people will do for money.
arista
22-07-2011, 05:44 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/22/article-2017709-0D1E939500000578-119_306x445.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/22/article-2017709-0D1E5A1800000578-154_634x468.jpg
Smoke billows from a 17-storey government building after a powerful explosion rocked central Oslo
"Seven dead in double terrorist attack in Norway as car bomb blast hits government office block and man opens fire at youth summer camp"
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017709/Oslo-explosion-Huge-bomb-blast-kills-maims-dozens-attack-government-office-block.html#ixzz1SrCIaOZt
Shooting at a Utoya Youth Camp,
he was dressed as a Police man,
now arrested.
The Plot gets bigger
arista
22-07-2011, 05:44 PM
Sad day for Norway
ILoveTRW
22-07-2011, 06:16 PM
The guy who was arrested was tall with blonde hair.
Grimnir
22-07-2011, 06:20 PM
Sounds like it could be domestic and nothing to do with "al qaeda"
Witnesses say the guy arrested at the shooting is norwegian and not a "foreigner"
Oh God, Poor People! I have a friend in norway! I shall ring him!
ILoveTRW
22-07-2011, 06:30 PM
Sounds like it could be domestic and nothing to do with "al qaeda"
Witnesses say the guy arrested at the shooting is norwegian and not a "foreigner"
It was obvious from the very beginning that it was domestic. This was an attack on Norwegian politics not western society.
Dumbies in this thread and on the news could see that.
Grimnir
22-07-2011, 07:14 PM
some american nobody is on bbc news talking utter ****e
he says according to some newspaper report a jihadi group has claimed responsibilty - reasons are afghanistan and the cartoons
he also said don't be thrown by the fact the guy was white with fair hair and norwegian, the jihadis are now recruiting "white folks" to infiltrate the west
utter bull****
Shaun
22-07-2011, 07:33 PM
There was a shooting spree at a Labour Party camp too :o
Might have been some right wing Nazi dickhead or something, there's quite a lot of them in Scandinavia apprently
arista
22-07-2011, 09:25 PM
There was a shooting spree at a Labour Party camp too :o
http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2011/Jul/Week4/16035843.jpg
arista
22-07-2011, 09:29 PM
http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2011/Jul/Week4/16035850.jpg
http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2011/Jul/Week4/16035851.jpg
http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2011/Jul/Week4/16035852.jpg
http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2011/Jul/Week4/16035845.jpg
http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2011/Jul/Week4/16035839.jpg
Sticks
22-07-2011, 09:36 PM
The latest is that the suspect in the shooting spree is Norwegian
joeysteele
22-07-2011, 09:56 PM
Just catching up on this now as I have been away most of the day, really horrific.
The guy arrested is apparently called Anders Behring Breivik and is a Norwegian right-wing extremist
Edit - the guy responsible for the shootings not the car bomb
joeysteele
22-07-2011, 11:40 PM
He's caused some chaos, awful act.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017851/Named-The-blond-Norwegian-32-arrested-holiday-island-massacre-linked-Oslo-bomb-blasts.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
King Gizzard
23-07-2011, 12:02 AM
Acted as a policeman and got all the kids around him to tell the news about the bomb then started firing :\
Grimnir
23-07-2011, 12:07 AM
conspiracy theorists will have a field day with the fact he was a freemason
not me though, i am sensible :tongue:
King Gizzard
23-07-2011, 12:08 AM
Got this from FB, don't know if it's real but fuzzy helicopter picture of him I think
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/253981_245698708792007_245683272126884_905075_2066 881_n.jpg
Grimnir
23-07-2011, 12:10 AM
i think i just seen similar pictures just now on bbc news
King Gizzard
23-07-2011, 12:14 AM
https://twitter.com/#!/AndersBBreivik
Facebook page - http://www.facebook.com/people/Anders-Behring-Breivik/100002651290254
But it seems a bit weird, only seems to have been set up a few days ago and he doesn't seem to have any friends, doesn't really seem like a right-wing extremist either just a Conservative. It'll probably turn out he was schizophrenic or something like that
King Gizzard
23-07-2011, 12:21 AM
uses that picture on both of his accounts, fancies himself a bit. Reaks a bit of the Jared guy a few months back
Politically driven psychopath
http://www.politicshome.com/timthumb.php?w=578&src=/images/sun230711.jpg
Typical of the Sun to proclaim it an "Al Qaeda massacre" when there wasn't a shred of evidence, they even knew at that point that the man arrested was blonde and still ran the headline :bored:
King Gizzard
23-07-2011, 01:13 AM
Some posts on some forum, just seen it on twitter
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.minervanett.no%2F2010%2F01%2F27 %2Fdet-imperfektes-politikk%2F&act=url
King Gizzard
23-07-2011, 01:15 AM
One of the victims, 'fighting for her life'
http://twitter.com/#!/miniodegarden
Grimnir
23-07-2011, 02:42 AM
http://www.politicshome.com/timthumb.php?w=578&src=/images/sun230711.jpg
Typical of the Sun to proclaim it an "Al Qaeda massacre" when there wasn't a shred of evidence, they even knew at that point that the man arrested was blonde and still ran the headline :bored:
bbc were doing the same thing, its not just the sun
they even had an american guest on who made up a bullsheet story about how al qaeda are now recruiting white people to infiltrate the west to fit in with the nutter being norwegian
Shaun
23-07-2011, 02:48 AM
The death toll keeps rising :( 80 now
Shaun
23-07-2011, 02:57 AM
http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lormgp5ymm1qh00x1o1_400.png
King Gizzard
23-07-2011, 03:33 AM
80 dead in the shootings
:\
edit: -didn't see shauns post-
Sticks
23-07-2011, 05:21 AM
What I found strange last night was that there was no mention of this on the 9pm news on Channel 5
Facebook page - http://www.facebook.com/people/Anders-Behring-Breivik/100002651290254
But it seems a bit weird, only seems to have been set up a few days ago and he doesn't seem to have any friends, doesn't really seem like a right-wing extremist either just a Conservative. It'll probably turn out he was schizophrenic or something like that
That account has been deleted now
http://www.boingboing.net/2011/07/22/Screen-shot-2011-07-22-at-4.55.jpg
:crazy:
King Gizzard
23-07-2011, 06:23 AM
Just seen a short video on liveleak of a boat going past the island :\
King Gizzard
23-07-2011, 06:34 AM
He wasn't in it, it was an aftermath video, like 20 seconds long of a boat driving past a few dead bodies, from a bit of a distance
arista
23-07-2011, 07:50 AM
One Angry Organic Farmer Owner
in the Neo Nazi Norway Party.
The Farm helps them understand how he got so much fertliser
for the Bomb next to the Prime Ministers Office.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fertilizer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fertilizer_bomb
Then the Political Killer goes off to the Island
of the Labour Party and the PM could also be there.
Strange Nation
they are saying he would get 21 years in Prison
he should be killed.
Info : The Times, SkyNewsHD , CNN.
joeysteele
23-07-2011, 07:58 AM
I agree with MTVN, he must have a mental problem too. Awful as the number of deaths and rising still.
King Gizzard
23-07-2011, 08:12 AM
He shouldn't be killed, that's just an easy way out. Let him rot in poor conditions in a secure prison until he goes mental. People will always try and kill him in there, too.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/22/article-2017709-0D1E3D9300000578-741_634x612.jpg
Is it just me or does the guy furthest right look like eidur gudjohnsen
http://twitter.com/#!/AdrianPracon
someone who survived the attack
'Conor
23-07-2011, 09:35 AM
84 people shot dead :bored:
This is so saddening :sad:
84 people shot dead :bored:
Mostly.. if not all, are kids! :-/
'Conor
23-07-2011, 09:37 AM
Mostly.. if not all, are kids! :-/
omgz really :shocked:
Pyramid*
23-07-2011, 09:37 AM
Horrific, sad, terrifying and abyssmal.
:(
lostalex
23-07-2011, 09:39 AM
I was thinking from the very beginning it wasn't a muslim terrorist group. It definitely seemed more like the Oklahoma City bombing to me from the start.
Horrible tragedy.
'Conor
23-07-2011, 09:42 AM
the OP should change the title of the thread now
I'll change it. Not that I will enjoy doing it though..
This story is sick
'Conor
23-07-2011, 09:46 AM
the person who shot them all looks so.... normal :shocked:
what happened to him? did they catch him?
http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2011/Jul/Week4/16035914.jpg
Sick ****** :bored:
Yeah he was arrested on the island where all the kids were shot
'Conor
23-07-2011, 09:47 AM
he should be executed
Livia
23-07-2011, 09:54 AM
He is being described as a "far right wing Christian fundamentalist". Nazi, in other words.
The questioning of witnesses and victims on BBC news is excrutiating. Less than 24 hours ago they went through this horror, and BBC news presenters are asking the usual inane questions. "How did you feel?" How the **** do you think they felt??
https://img.skitch.com/20110723-k2hfchhrjt72ks6s587qa42kdd.png
His facebook profile page.. it was only suppose to have been set up a few days ago
'Conor
23-07-2011, 10:01 AM
:shocked:
he should add "being a pyscho" to his hobbies
arista
23-07-2011, 10:06 AM
I agree with MTVN, he must have a mental problem too. Awful as the number of deaths and rising still.
He may have mental problems
but so far
its Political he is a Neo Nazi.
arista
23-07-2011, 10:07 AM
he should be executed
No they say its 21 years in Jail
Strange Nation.
My norweigan friend has burns all over his arm and a injured nose and cheekbone. The was near the blast. :bawling:
I really hope He'll be okay.
My norweigan friend has burns all over his arm and a injured nose and cheekbone. The was near the blast. :bawling:
I really hope He'll be okay.
Pyramid*
23-07-2011, 10:10 AM
omgz really :shocked:
the person who shot them all looks so.... normal :shocked:
what happened to him? did they catch him?
O'Conor - have you read much on the story?
A police official says the gunman is co-operating. He said: 'He is clear on the point that he wants to explain himself.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017938/Paradise-turned-hell-Death-toll-rises-91-twin-terror-attacks-Norway.html#ixzz1SvCksGaf
arista
23-07-2011, 10:13 AM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/23/article-2017709-0D1F33FB00000578-704_306x512.jpg
He hated the Socialism in that nation
Pyramid*
23-07-2011, 10:16 AM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/23/article-2017709-0D1F33FB00000578-704_306x512.jpg
He hated the Socialism in that nation
A photo of him dressed in his Masonic gear and Masonic Apron....... bit misleading Arista, I'd say that was a bit of an insult to fellow Masons. Most actually do a lot of very good work.
Just putting it out there...
What's to explain? You're a bloody loon!
arista
23-07-2011, 10:19 AM
A photo of him dressed in his Masonic gear and Masonic Apron....... bit misleading Arista, I'd say that was a bit of an insult to fellow Masons. Most actually do a lot of very good work.
Just putting it out there...
This is a Neo Nazi
nothing misleading about this Punk
On that Death island
he shouted " You All Must Die"
lostalex
23-07-2011, 10:23 AM
some american nobody is on bbc news talking utter ****e
he says according to some newspaper report a jihadi group has claimed responsibilty - reasons are afghanistan and the cartoons
he also said don't be thrown by the fact the guy was white with fair hair and norwegian, the jihadis are now recruiting "white folks" to infiltrate the west
utter bull****
He wasn't talking sheet at all. A jihadi group DID take responsibility for it. But they were lying, as terrorists usually do.
And the idea that there are no white terrorists is ridiculous. There was John Lind, the white American terrorist, also David Hicks, a white australian terrorist, and many other examples.
Muslim Terrorists arn't any specific race, Muslim is not a race. White, Black, Arab, Asian, Eskimo, etc...
but anyways, This wasn't a muslim terrorist, but the muslims did try to take credit for it. Terrorists have a very Paris Hilton attitude towards the news, basically They'll try take any publicity they can get, even if it's bad publicity.
Pyramid*
23-07-2011, 10:33 AM
What's to explain? You're a bloody loon!
Who is this directed towards Marc?
Who is this directed towards Marc?
The guy
Pyramid*
23-07-2011, 10:35 AM
This is a Neo Nazi
nothing misleading about this Punk
On that Death island
he shouted " You All Must Die"
I didn't say there was anything misleading about HIM. I said it was misleading putting up a photo of him in his Masonic Regalia....there is a big difference Arista.
As far as he personally is concerned,they should hang, draw and quarter the bastard as far as I'm concerned.
Pyramid*
23-07-2011, 10:36 AM
The guy
I don't think he'll be reading Tibbs - call it a hunch.
I don't think he'll be reading Tibbs - call it a hunch.
Neither. It was more a comment about him rather than to him anyway.
arista
23-07-2011, 10:39 AM
"photo of him in his Masonic Regalia....there is a big difference Arista."
No one cares what he has on.
Except You.
Livia
23-07-2011, 11:09 AM
"photo of him in his Masonic Regalia....there is a big difference Arista."
No one cares what he has on.
Except You.
That's not true. By posting a picture of him in his regalia you're deliberately drawing attention to the fact that he is a Mason, or why bother? I have seen lots of pictures of him but only in the one you posted is he wearing Masonic gear. I'm sure Masons everywhere will be distancing themselves from him, just as Christians everywhere will be.
arista
23-07-2011, 11:16 AM
"fact that he is a Mason"
Not to me
he is the Neo Nazi Punk
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/23/article-2017851-0D1F345300000578-424_306x423.jpg
In fairness the picture of him in Masonic gear was on his Facebook page and in the Daily Mail article last night
Speculation that there might have been another shooter apparently, it does seem crazy that one guy might have shot 84 people on his own, apparently some witness reports are pointing towards there being another man
letmein
23-07-2011, 12:02 PM
Facebook page - http://www.facebook.com/people/Anders-Behring-Breivik/100002651290254
But it seems a bit weird, only seems to have been set up a few days ago and he doesn't seem to have any friends, doesn't really seem like a right-wing extremist either just a Conservative. It'll probably turn out he was schizophrenic or something like that
Conservative = Right wing
A Right wing extremist, would be Conservative.
He obviously set this Facebook up for the media, as many are already speculating.
letmein
23-07-2011, 12:04 PM
I agree with MTVN, he must have a mental problem too. Awful as the number of deaths and rising still.
It's funny, a white person commits terrorism, they're mentally ill. A brown person commits terrorism, and they're simply a "terrorist". Call this guy out for what he was, and stop trying to make him the victim of mental illness.
I read this guys posts on other messages, even a WoW one, and while he spouted some Conservative dribble, he sounded like someone who had all his mentally faculties about him. He's just an extremist twat!
King Gizzard
23-07-2011, 12:12 PM
Distraction with a bomb while he goes on a small island with no defences and shoots at Labour kids. Ultimate coward..and if he wanted to promote conservatism in Norway then he's done the absolute opposite (obviously he doesn't act on all conservatives but still)
arista
23-07-2011, 12:19 PM
Distraction with a bomb while he goes on a small island with no defences and shoots at Labour kids. Ultimate coward..and if he wanted to promote conservatism in Norway then he's done the absolute opposite (obviously he doesn't act on all conservatives but still)
He is a Neo Nazi
Punk Coward
Conservative = Right wing
A Right wing extremist, would be Conservative.
He obviously set this Facebook up for the media, as many are already speculating.
I mean he doesn't seem like your typical Neo-Nazi/Fascist militant which you would generally think of when you hear of right-wing extremist. But yeah you're right, he can be a Conservative right-wing extremist
Callum
23-07-2011, 12:21 PM
So sad to hear the death toll now, when I went to bed last night they were saying only nine dead. :sad:
arista
23-07-2011, 01:51 PM
So sad to hear the death toll now, when I went to bed last night they were saying only nine dead. :sad:
Yes a Neo Nazi
with a Farm
able to make a Mega Bomb
if he hated the Politics so much
he should have killed himself.
Evil Neo Nazi Punk Coward goes onto a Island
to murder young Norway Labour Party Youths.
Even shooting those that wanted to swim away from him.
Sticks
23-07-2011, 02:58 PM
But in his warped mind, all he was doing was vermin control of those he thought sold out his twisted ideals.
I remember Tony Benn being asked what book he would recommend people to read and he suggested Mein Kamph as that showed how mere ideas could lead to such atrocities.
We need to get into the minds of such killers, so we can predict and neutralise them before it gets this far.
Does he belong to any terrorists gangs? Oh did he just get up one morning and proceed to kill all these innocent people. I think they should bring back capital punishment .
arista
23-07-2011, 03:22 PM
But in his warped mind, all he was doing was vermin control of those he thought sold out his twisted ideals.
I remember Tony Benn being asked what book he would recommend people to read and he suggested Mein Kamph as that showed how mere ideas could lead to such atrocities.
We need to get into the minds of such killers, so we can predict and neutralise them before it gets this far.
Yes They are looking into other Extreme Neo Nazi's
On monday our PM is in meetings to see what the UK can learn.
He had the Organic Farm
so had no trouble buying Mega Fertilisers amounts.
America had there own extreme killer
the one that attacked the Tax office
with a big bomb.
arista
23-07-2011, 03:30 PM
Does he belong to any terrorists gangs? Oh did he just get up one morning and proceed to kill all these innocent people. I think they should bring back capital punishment .
No he is a Organic Farmer
into Neo Nazi Politics.
They are not a Nation
that wants the death penalty back.
Why do you keep calling him a neo-Nazi, I don't think I've seen anything to suggest that, he's more of a Christian Conservative with Nationalistic leanings and a specific preoccupation with Islamic immigration. Apparently his heroes are people like Chruchill, Geert Wilders (the head of the right-wing Dutch Freedom Party) and then a Norwegian anti-Nazi resistance fighter.
You're just calling him a Neo-Nazi because it's what comes to mind when you hear "right-wing extremism" and because he's against Islam and Socialism
Edit - he's even pro-Israel
arista
23-07-2011, 03:47 PM
Why do you keep calling him a neo-Nazi, I don't think I've seen anything to suggest that, he's more of a Christian Conservative with Nationalistic leanings and a specific preoccupation with Islamic immigration. Apparently his heroes are people like Chruchill, Geert Wilders (the head of the right-wing Dutch Freedom Party) and then a Norwegian anti-Nazi resistance fighter.
You're just calling him a Neo-Nazi because it's what comes to mind when you hear "right-wing extremism" and because he's against Islam and Socialism
Edit - he's even pro-Israel
He is a Neo Nazi
and a coward.
He is Extreme Neo Nazi
thats why he went to kill the PM and his
youth of the Norway Labour Party.
He is to far away from Right Wing,
Evil Neo Nazi Punk Coward.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/22/article-2017709-0D1EB1A700000578-907_634x525.jpg
Sticks
23-07-2011, 03:52 PM
That was Timothy McVeigh
arista
23-07-2011, 03:57 PM
That was Timothy McVeigh
Yes the American that shocked the World
More Info (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html)
He's not a Neo-Nazi though, it doesn't look like it anyway, and you don't have anything to say that he is
arista
23-07-2011, 04:08 PM
He's not a Neo-Nazi though, it doesn't look like it anyway, and you don't have anything to say that he is
Extreme Mass Murder
he is a Neo Nazi Punk Coward.
MTVN
You can call him what you want.
Begging for his life: Chilling image of terrified teenager pleading for mercy from 'neo-Nazi' killer standing astride bodies
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017938/Norway-attacks-Survivors-tell-police-attacks-different-areas-Utoya.html#ixzz1Swg2hIRd
A quote from the guy himself:
"For me it is very hypocritical to treat Muslims, Nazis and Marxists differ. They are all supporters of hate-ideologies. Not all Muslims, Nazis and Marxists are conservative, most are moderate. But does it matter? A moderate Nazi might, after having experienced fraud, choose to be conservative. A moderate Muslim can, after being refused to enter a club, be conservative, etc.
It is obvious that the moderate supporters of hate-ideologies, at a later date may choose conservatism.
Islam (ism) has historically led to 300 million deaths
Communism has historically led to 100 million deaths
Nazism has historically led to 6-20 million deaths
ALL hate ideologies should be treated equally."
http://www.document.no/anders-behring-breivik/
Because the Daily Mail calls him a Nazi doesn't make him so.
arista
23-07-2011, 04:17 PM
"Because the Daily Mail calls him a Nazi doesn't make him so. "
I called him a Neo Nazi Punk Coward before the
Daily Mail did.
You have your view
I have My view on this Extreme Neo Nazi.
"quote from the guy himself:"
His Quotes became invalid when he started Mass Murdering
Fact
"Because the Daily Mail calls him a Nazi doesn't make him so. "
I called him a Neo Nazi Punk Coward before the
Daily Mail did.
You have your view
I have My view on this Extreme Neo Nazi.
"quote from the guy himself:"
His Quotes became invalid when he started Mass Murdering
Fact
I dont understand how anyone can vindicate mass murder :conf:
"Because the Daily Mail calls him a Nazi doesn't make him so. "
I called him a Neo Nazi Punk Coward before the
Daily Mail did.
You have your view
I have My view on this Extreme Neo Nazi.
"quote from the guy himself:"
His Quotes became invalid when he started Mass Murdering
Fact
I don't see how it becomes invalid, it's still an insight into his politics
I dont understand how anyone can vindicate mass murder :conf:
Who's done that?
arista
23-07-2011, 04:31 PM
"don't see how it becomes invalid, it's still an insight into his politics"
MTVN
there is a line you cross
and all that went before is invalid
because of his Mass Murdering yesterday,
he is a Coward.
Neo Nazi Punk Coward
"don't see how it becomes invalid, it's still an insight into his politics"
MTVN
there is a line you cross
and all that went before is invalid
because of his Mass Murdering yesterday,
he is a Coward.
Neo Nazi Punk Coward
That doesn't make any sense, the quote was just him talking about his political viewpoints, those view he has haven't suddenly changed because he became a mass-murderer, it was those very views that made him become a mass murderer in the first place!
arista
23-07-2011, 04:45 PM
That doesn't make any sense, the quote was just him talking about his political viewpoints, those view he has haven't suddenly changed because he became a mass-murderer, it was those very views that made him become a mass murderer in the first place!
Yes but he went over the Line.
So all his ramblings are not needed now.
Like he told you he was going murder???
He became a Neo Nazi Punk Coward
arista
23-07-2011, 05:03 PM
MTVN
Jon Snow live on Ch4News (rare to have jon on his rest day)
just said he was like Klu Klux Klan.
So he is a Neo Nazi
in every way.
http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2011/Jul/Week4/16036303.jpg
seanraff07
23-07-2011, 05:21 PM
My thoughts go out to those killed/injured and their families
Tragic scenes.
LaLaLand
23-07-2011, 05:34 PM
This is really horrendous, unimaginable to me. Thoughts and prayers go out to all of those concerned & the people of Norway.
Grimnir
24-07-2011, 01:11 AM
Islam (ism) has historically led to 300 million deaths
Communism has historically led to 100 million deaths
Nazism has historically led to 6-20 million deaths
Capitalism has led to more deaths than any other ISM:xyxwave:
Capitalism has led to more deaths than any other ISM:xyxwave:
Well that's something you'll need to take up with him then, I didn't write that :laugh:
But I think it's pretty stupid to assign a death toll to an ideology anyway, or it's very problematic to do so especially with that whole "Communism has killed 100 million"
Sticks
24-07-2011, 04:56 AM
Capitalism is the system where Man exploits Man. Under Communism the reverse is true
arista
24-07-2011, 05:08 AM
Capitalism is the system where Man exploits Man. Under Communism the reverse is true
No Nation has Real Communism
All Former Communist Nations failed
due to Corrupt Leaders.
Real Communism can not work under humans.
You can't have Communism in once country anyway, that's integral to Marxist thought and it's why nations like USSR, Cuba etc. have always called themselves Socialist, but a lot of Communists would even say you can't have Socialism in one country
Back on topic the gunman has said he acted alone - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14266815. He described his actions as "gruesome but necessary apparently"
King Gizzard
24-07-2011, 09:52 AM
Mass happening now at a church
Makes a mockery of what that douchebag stood for
arista
24-07-2011, 11:32 AM
No this Neo Nazi left all his connections
a few years back.
He is Alone as a Evil Punk Coward
who became there 9/11
by being a Evil Neo Nazi Coward,
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/24/article-2018240-0D25837400000578-802_308x642.jpg
arista
25-07-2011, 08:12 AM
This Neo Nazi Punk Coward's Master Plan has been stopped
he thinks he can talk about His Politics while in court today.
But the Judge will not let him.
Maybe someone will Kill him
Livia
25-07-2011, 09:56 AM
He seems to be getting a cult status in double-record time. I mean, I know that was inevitable in some quarters, but he's being portrayed, almost reverently, as someone on a mission - albeit a misguided one. He is a terrorist. When are the press going to start referring to him as a terrorist? If he wasn't a perfect Aryan, if he had a brown face, they would certainly be calling him a terrorist now.
'Conor
25-07-2011, 10:12 AM
apparently he told the police and stuff that he knows what he did was horrible and attrocious but it was necessary?
what a loon!
horrible :bored:
arista
25-07-2011, 11:40 AM
He seems to be getting a cult status in double-record time. I mean, I know that was inevitable in some quarters, but he's being portrayed, almost reverently, as someone on a mission - albeit a misguided one. He is a terrorist. When are the press going to start referring to him as a terrorist? If he wasn't a perfect Aryan, if he had a brown face, they would certainly be calling him a terrorist now.
Yes True.
Good of the Judge to have a Closed Court
blocking the Neo Nazi Punk Cowards Plan.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/24/article-2018148-0D22A35F00000578-104_634x360.jpg
arista
25-07-2011, 12:33 PM
Novo
He is Evil Neo Nazi Punk Coward
Fact.
arista
25-07-2011, 12:33 PM
He needs to be killed
arista
25-07-2011, 12:57 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/25/article-2018506-0D27FC7F00000578-129_634x422.jpg
Outside the Court
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/25/article-2018506-0D27C52100000578-904_306x527.jpg
The Neo Nazi Punk Coward wanted to have this on today,
but he was not permitted.
Crimson Dynamo
25-07-2011, 01:28 PM
he looks a bit like Pete from Gavin and Stacey
arista
25-07-2011, 03:07 PM
The Police in Norway
are adjusting the amount of Dead
68 on the Island.
and 8 dead in Oslo.
So current total of dead is 76
at this time.
SkyNewsHD live.
How come they are saying 90+ then?
'Conor
25-07-2011, 03:08 PM
erm theres like 92 dead?
arista
25-07-2011, 03:11 PM
How come they are saying 90+ then?
That was on the first Day count
now all it taken in
they are correcting the amounts
to a lower amount.
arista
25-07-2011, 03:12 PM
erm theres like 92 dead?
No
Live on SkyNews or other News
the amount has gone down.
Now they have all the dead in.
'Conor
25-07-2011, 03:13 PM
so what 20 odd people magically came back to life
arista
25-07-2011, 03:15 PM
so what 20 odd people magically came back to life
No it was a rushed 1st amount in Error.
Now it is Lower.
arista
25-07-2011, 03:16 PM
http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2011/Jul/Week4/16036671.jpg
'Conor
25-07-2011, 03:23 PM
i find this story so intresting
arista
25-07-2011, 03:25 PM
i find this story so intresting
What a Neo Nazi Punk Coward?
letmein
25-07-2011, 03:43 PM
A quote from the guy himself:
"For me it is very hypocritical to treat Muslims, Nazis and Marxists differ. They are all supporters of hate-ideologies. Not all Muslims, Nazis and Marxists are conservative, most are moderate. But does it matter? A moderate Nazi might, after having experienced fraud, choose to be conservative. A moderate Muslim can, after being refused to enter a club, be conservative, etc.
It is obvious that the moderate supporters of hate-ideologies, at a later date may choose conservatism.
Islam (ism) has historically led to 300 million deaths
Communism has historically led to 100 million deaths
Nazism has historically led to 6-20 million deaths
ALL hate ideologies should be treated equally."
http://www.document.no/anders-behring-breivik/
Because the Daily Mail calls him a Nazi doesn't make him so.
Christianity trumps them all.
Odd that they had 20 too many deaths, normally the recorded number is lower then the actual amount, don't know where they got the extra deaths from then
'Conor
25-07-2011, 03:55 PM
im watching all the footage on sky news
arista
25-07-2011, 03:57 PM
The Neo Nazi Punk Coward
claims he has 2 other cells.
But his own words is not trusted.
But the Police will keep him away from Public
just in case there are others he could leave a code to.
arista
25-07-2011, 04:30 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/24/article-2018179-0D22ABEA00000578-254_634x459.jpg
He played fighting Games on is console.
He is better off, Dead.
He Crossed the line with a bomb whith he wanted to kill the PM with
he then went to a island he knew he could kill
loads of Norway Labour youngsters without anyone attacking him.
A Neo Nazi Punk Coward.
lostalex
25-07-2011, 05:05 PM
I just don't understand his logic. If he thinks there is a war to be fought against muslims.. then why is he doing terrorist attacks against his own people?? If he hates muslim's so much, why didn't he go to a MUslim country, and commit a terrorist attack against Muslims??
That would make a lot more sense. It would still be horrible, but at least it would make sense.
I don't understand what he thought he would accomplish by killing his own people.
It makes no sense at all to me.
I just don't understand his logic. If he thinks there is a war to be fought against muslims.. then why is he doing terrorist attacks against his own people?? If he hates muslim's so much, why didn't he go to a MUslim country, and commit a terrorist attack against Muslims??
That would make a lot more sense.
I don't understand what he thought he would accomplish by killing his own people.
It makes no sense at all to me.
Because he wanted to punish the ruling party for allowing Islamic immigration which he felt was ruining Norway's culture
lostalex
25-07-2011, 05:24 PM
Because he wanted to punish the ruling party for allowing Islamic immigration which he felt was ruining Norway's culture
Then he is an idiot. Obviously the ruling party will now enjoy a lot of sympathy. He basically just assured their re-election.
Would Bush have been re-elected if not for 9/11? no. WOuld Clinton have been re-elected without Oaklahoma City? we'll never know, but maybe not.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14266140
"Potential UK targets for attacks are mentioned including North Sea oilfields and the BP exploration office at Dyce in Aberdeen."
I work in an office just a 2 minute walk away from that BP building, such a strange thought that that could well have happened/happen so close by to me... :|
lostalex
25-07-2011, 05:27 PM
Does Norway have elections any time soon?
Then he is an idiot. Obviously the ruling party will now enjoy a lot of sympathy. He basically just assured their re-election.
Would Bush have been re-elected if not for 9/11? no.
He doesn't intend this to be the end of things though, or for it just to be a one off, it's the reason he gave himself up when normally gunman shoot themselves or take on the police, he thinks he'll now have a platform to spread his message and he claims to have two other cells working with him. I guess he's hoping to ignite full scale terrorist action against the government
Harry!
25-07-2011, 05:38 PM
Alexander Rybak <3 I love him.
Link doesn't work Zee?
Weird. The article title is "Norway massacre: Police probe killer's links to UK" if you want to read it, the URL is the same as what I posted on here, yet when I click the link in this thread that I posted it doesn't work.
Weird. The article title is "Norway massacre: Police probe killer's links to UK" if you want to read it, the URL is the same as what I posted on here, yet when I click the link in this thread that I posted it doesn't work.
Oh yeah :conf2: Found it now, thanks
arista
25-07-2011, 07:25 PM
I just don't understand his logic. If he thinks there is a war to be fought against muslims.. then why is he doing terrorist attacks against his own people?? If he hates muslim's so much, why didn't he go to a MUslim country, and commit a terrorist attack against Muslims??
That would make a lot more sense. It would still be horrible, but at least it would make sense.
I don't understand what he thought he would accomplish by killing his own people.
It makes no sense at all to me.
Logic
He has none.
He blames Norway Labour Party (he says they are marxists)
for allowing Muslims into his nation.
That is so simple to understand
arista
25-07-2011, 07:34 PM
Weird. The article title is "Norway massacre: Police probe killer's links to UK" if you want to read it, the URL is the same as what I posted on here, yet when I click the link in this thread that I posted it doesn't work.
Yes from years back
when New Labour were in Power here.
The Evil Neo Nazi Punk Coward
is making loads of new claims.
But whay he says is not so Valid.
Police check it , of course.
He is better off , Dead.
In case any of you don't know Arista thinks he is a Neo Nazi Punk
King Gizzard
25-07-2011, 07:57 PM
Killing him would give him an easy way out, Arista
In case any of you don't know Arista thinks he is a Neo Nazi Punk
:joker:
arista
25-07-2011, 08:17 PM
Killing him would give him an easy way out, Arista
Sure
but for many that have lost youngsters
to the Laughing Killer,
he needs to be killed.
arista
25-07-2011, 08:19 PM
Norwegian Evil Neo Nazi Punk Coward
is on 'MI5' List.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Norway-Anders-Behring-Breivik-Was-On-Intelligence-Watch-List-After-Buying-Chemicals-Online/Article/201107416036733?lpos=World_News_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_16036733_Norway%3A_Anders_Behring_Brei vik_Was_On_Intelligence_Watch_List_After_Buying_Ch emicals_Online
Sticks
25-07-2011, 08:29 PM
It would be better to declare him criminally insane, which would help to discredit his ideology.
As for the electoral issues, the public will blame the ruling party for being responsible for making their children targets and vote them out in favour of a more right wing party, which is more to the liking of this man.
Well that's what happened in Spain with that terrorist attack, the Spanish people voted out the ruling part in favour of one that pledged to capitulate to the terrorists.
arista
25-07-2011, 08:36 PM
It would be better to declare him criminally insane, which would help to discredit his ideology.
As for the electoral issues, the public will blame the ruling party for being responsible for making their children targets and vote them out in favour of a more right wing party, which is more to the liking of this man.
Well that's what happened in Spain with that terrorist attack, the Spanish people voted out the ruling part in favour of one that pledged to capitulate to the terrorists.
Yes the Next Election there
will be of interest.
It would be better to declare him criminally insane, which would help to discredit his ideology.
As for the electoral issues, the public will blame the ruling party for being responsible for making their children targets and vote them out in favour of a more right wing party, which is more to the liking of this man.
Well that's what happened in Spain with that terrorist attack, the Spanish people voted out the ruling part in favour of one that pledged to capitulate to the terrorists.
No it wouldn't, then you're diminishing his responsibility and trying to make excuses for his actions. He's not insane, he's not a nutter, he doesn't have mental health problems, it's time to face up to the fact that he is just an extremist who was politically motivated
Sticks
25-07-2011, 09:09 PM
I was just thinking of how Stalin dealt with religious people by declaring them insane and carting them off indefinitely
arista
25-07-2011, 09:10 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/25/article-2018506-0D286CE600000578-445_634x658.jpg
The Evil Coward after his closed court session.
http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2011/Jul/Week4/16037348.jpg
http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2011/Jul/Week4/16037341.jpg
Some of Tuesdays Front Pages.
'Conor
25-07-2011, 09:12 PM
smiling and all the evil ****.
Zippy
25-07-2011, 09:17 PM
He's not insane, he's not a nutter, he doesn't have mental health problems, it's time to face up to the fact that he is just an extremist who was politically motivated
I don't know how you can possibly make that analysis at this stage.
Its certainly not a fact.
According to reports, he had pic taken in his uniform before the shootings because he knew his picture would be filtered all around the world. Today he asked if he could wear black suit, he is cold blooded murderer.
'Conor
25-07-2011, 09:19 PM
he obviously isn't right in the head, what kind of sane person would shoot 70ish young teenagers dead and feel no guilt
Zippy
25-07-2011, 09:19 PM
..he is cold blooded murderer.
yeah we'd figured that bit out
arista
25-07-2011, 09:22 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/25/article-2018506-0D27FC7F00000578-129_634x422.jpg
Outside the Court
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/25/article-2018506-0D27C52100000578-904_306x527.jpg
The Neo Nazi Punk Coward wanted to have this on today,
but he was not permitted.
"According to reports, he had pic taken in his uniform before the shootings because he knew his picture would be filtered all around the world. Today he asked if he could wear black suit, he is cold blooded murderer. " by tmi
Yes I posted his Pathetic Uniform.
Zippy
25-07-2011, 09:27 PM
he's won a lot of medals
arista
25-07-2011, 09:28 PM
he's won a lot of medals
Some are made up.
Not real
arista
25-07-2011, 09:49 PM
The UK EDL boss
was just on Newsnight with Paxman.
He says they are nothing to do with
the Sick Head Man in Norway.
yeah we'd figured that bit out
What I mean is a pre meditated murder and I think he couldnt say the killings were due to diminished responsibilty.
Livia
25-07-2011, 10:02 PM
I just don't understand his logic. If he thinks there is a war to be fought against muslims.. then why is he doing terrorist attacks against his own people?? If he hates muslim's so much, why didn't he go to a MUslim country, and commit a terrorist attack against Muslims??
That would make a lot more sense. It would still be horrible, but at least it would make sense.
I don't understand what he thought he would accomplish by killing his own people.
It makes no sense at all to me.
I was reading that Islam is now the secnd largest faith in Norway. The kids he killed were in a group that was part of the ruling party, who had relaxed immigration and allowed a lot more Muslims into the country. But really, who knows what goes through the mind of someone like that?
arista
26-07-2011, 10:18 AM
They are now saying
the Evil Neo Nazi Coward had 90mins
on the Island to hand pick his Norway Labour Party people.
After the first shots he then got up close and fired again
to ensure death.
The country is more United after this Evil Attack.
So he failed.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/25/article-2018506-0D28459B00000578-450_634x305.jpg
His lawyer's saying he might be insane (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14294251), sounds like he's just trying to get him a lighter sentence to me
King Gizzard
26-07-2011, 12:08 PM
Various psychologists have already said he has no mental problems at all, so good luck on that one
Tom4784
26-07-2011, 12:10 PM
I've heard that the maximum sentence he can be given is 21 years which is ridiculous, I did the maths and that's 82 days for each murder.
'Conor
26-07-2011, 12:11 PM
yeah 21 is definatley not enough!
Yeah 21 years is ordinarily the maximum sentence in Norway although apparently they might try and charge him with crimes against humanity which would carry a 30 year sentence according to BBC news
King Gizzard
26-07-2011, 12:15 PM
Whatever happens, he's never realistically getting out is he? If he did, he'd be killed
Too much of a risk to Norway
'Conor
26-07-2011, 12:15 PM
if it was 21 years, he would only be 53 when he got out, which is relatively young
Crimson Dynamo
26-07-2011, 12:21 PM
if it was 21 years, he would only be 53 when he got out, which is relatively young
No, he gets 21 and then a review where he gets another 5 and so it will go on till his death.
He will not be released.
'Conor
26-07-2011, 12:23 PM
No, he gets 21 and then a review where he gets another 5 and so it will go on till his death.
He will not be released.
oh, never new that, well thats good i guess
arista
26-07-2011, 12:24 PM
yeah 21 is definatley not enough!
They may change the Laws
because of this Evil punk.
'Conor
26-07-2011, 12:25 PM
i wish he was condemned to death, but thats not legal anymore
ILoveTRW
26-07-2011, 12:27 PM
how can you have a 100 confirmed deaths and then the next day 75
were some resurrected?
or are Norwegians just **** at maths?
arista
26-07-2011, 12:29 PM
While the Neo Nazi was Killing everyone on the Island
his Ipod was playing Lord Of The Rings,
reported today.
'Conor
26-07-2011, 12:30 PM
how can you have a 100 confirmed deaths and then the next day 75
were some resurrected?
or are Norwegians just **** at maths?
i was thinking the same :joker:
arista
26-07-2011, 12:32 PM
i was thinking the same :joker:
In the rush
they counted some twice
Crimson Dynamo
26-07-2011, 01:56 PM
In the rush
they counted some twice
Its a circular island. counting them would have been a big strain
Livia
26-07-2011, 04:03 PM
if it was 21 years, he would only be 53 when he got out, which is relatively young
The maximum is 21 years in Norway, but if he is considered dangerous to the public they can hold him for as long as they like. And I think he would qualify as a danger to the public...
I wouldn't mind betting he's dead within a couple of years.
Sticks
26-07-2011, 04:03 PM
According to the BBC news they are going to use terrorism legislation to increase the sentence they can give.
If insanity is claimed, surely that would mean they could detain someone indefinitely?
arista
26-07-2011, 04:06 PM
According to the BBC news they are going to use terrorism legislation to increase the sentence they can give.
If insanity is claimed, surely that would mean they could detain someone indefinitely?
Yes they will keep him in forever
and not allow Media.
That will upset the Evil Neo Nazi.
Sticks
26-07-2011, 04:10 PM
His reference to other cells sounds very much like delusion.
I would like to see the results of a full psychiatric and neurological assessment, in case there was something wrong with his brain which sent him over the edge.
arista
26-07-2011, 04:18 PM
His reference to other cells sounds very much like delusion.
I would like to see the results of a full psychiatric and neurological assessment, in case there was something wrong with his brain which sent him over the edge.
Great Point
Sticks.
Zippy
26-07-2011, 04:47 PM
He's a nutter I tell you.
Fantasist.
Livia
27-07-2011, 09:47 AM
He's a nutter I tell you.
Fantasist.
That's the long and the short of it.
All the psychological assessments in the world aren't going to throw any more light on him than his actions already have.
arista
27-07-2011, 10:25 AM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/26/article-2019132-0D20B0F300000578-789_468x286.jpg
After setting Mega Bomb Off
He knew on the Island he could Shoot loads before they got to him.
On the boat there was a woman who worked on the Island
did not like the look of him
she ran to get the Security Officer
they were the first 2 Shot dead fast with his high powered
sniper rifle.
What should they do with the Island now
I would leave it to Nature.
'Conor
27-07-2011, 11:22 AM
its like Harpers Island now, i dont think much people would go back there
So how did he get over to the island then? is there something like a ferry that takes people back and from?
'Conor
27-07-2011, 11:37 AM
So how did he get over to the island then? is there something like a ferry that takes people back and from?
yeah he got on a ferry over with other people, but he was dressed as a policeman so they didnt question why he was going over
So how did he get over to the island then? is there something like a ferry that takes people back and from?
I'd imagine so..
He was dressed as a policeman too..
arista
27-07-2011, 12:10 PM
So how did he get over to the island then? is there something like a ferry that takes people back and from?
Yes the Ferry
a small one which also had that female worker on it
who ran to try and get the Security Guard
But was Shot Dead fast.
Crimson Dynamo
27-07-2011, 12:48 PM
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6bc_1311718289
wow
letmein
28-07-2011, 08:25 PM
He wrote his manifesto is London, and now they believe that there are terror cells set up inside the city, per Breivik's own words. It would not surprise me.
Livia
28-07-2011, 09:27 PM
He wrote his manifesto is London, and now they believe that there are terror cells set up inside the city, per Breivik's own words. It would not surprise me.
He wrote his manifesto... oh IN London.
Well, if Breivik said it, in his own words, then that's good enough for you.
There are eight million people in London with the usual percentage of nutters, just like every other city in the world. Londoners kicked Moseley and his nazi cronies out of east London in the 1930s and I'm sure they'd be ready to do the same again if the need arose.
He wrote his manifesto... oh IN London.
Well, if Breivik said it, in his own words, then that's good enough for you.
There are eight million people in London with the usual percentage of nutters, just like every other city in the world. Londoners kicked Moseley and his nazi cronies out of east London in the 1930s and I'm sure they'd be ready to do the same again if the need arose.
Not before they gained the support of the Daily Mail and Mirror and thousands of followers though, we shouldn't be too dismissive about the threat from the far-right
Livia
28-07-2011, 09:57 PM
Not before they gained the support of the Daily Mail and Mirror and thousands of followers though, we shouldn't be too dismissive about the threat from the far-right
I'm not dismissive of threats. It's just that, coming from east London, which has always been multicultural, I experienced far less racism and far-right thinking there than I experience now, 100 miles from London. I think that the threat comes more from places where minorities are a bit of a mystery and people make racist comments, casually, in the village pub, and think it's both clever and acceptable.
Hi MTVN. Up the 'Ammers.
I'm not dismissive of threats. It's just that, coming from east London, which has always been multicultural, I experienced far less racism and far-right thinking there than I experience now, 100 miles from London. I think that the threat comes more from places where minorities are a bit of a mystery and people make racist comments, casually, in the village pub, and think it's both clever and acceptable.
Hi MTVN. Up the 'Ammers.
Hi Livia, yeah that's fair enough, I'm from such a place myself, pretty rural and the vast majority are white and casual racism can be quite prominent, even if people don't necessarily realise it
Sticks
29-07-2011, 04:38 AM
Those other cells only exist in his mind - His own lawyers says he is insane. He is delusional, nothing more
Apply Occam's Razor
arista
29-07-2011, 07:52 AM
Those other cells only exist in his mind - His own lawyers says he is insane. He is delusional, nothing more
Apply Occam's Razor
Yes Very True.
His trial has started today and he's pleaded not guilty because he says it was a political act of self defence :crazy:
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/59672000/jpg/_59672446_59672051.jpg
arista
16-04-2012, 10:45 AM
Yes he is in the Wrong Nation
they are to soft with that Nazi.
Ninastar
16-04-2012, 09:08 PM
Disgusting man
He was smirking all through out his trial
arista
16-04-2012, 09:31 PM
Disgusting man
He was smirking all through out his trial
Yes Evil Man
I want someone inside the Jail to Kill him.
As putting him on TV News is not Valid
as he thinks killing all those young people
is correct as he is a Evil Nazi.
The Worst this side of the War.
arista
17-04-2012, 04:14 PM
Today in Court one Judge was removed
as he had said this Nazi Breivik should get the Death Sentance.
A Great Judge , in my view.
The Nazi Breivik Spoke but it went off camera
as they do not want him getting more Nazi Members.
The Nazi Breivik said killing all those on the Island
was fair as he viewed it as a Multiculturalism School.
Of Course the stupid Nazi also killed
many White students.
He seems to Love being in front of Worldwide TV.
But Enough
we can learn nothing more other than he is like Hitler
in his viewpoint.
Not a great judge, it's great credit to Norway that they haven't resorted to knee-jerk responses and emotional calls for the death penalty, even in the aftermath of the attacks only 16% wanted to see it return
Good commentary in the Independent http://www.independent.co.uk/hei-fi/views/owen-jones-norway-plays-it-by-the-book-and-sends-a-message-to-the-world-7653814.html
Would the British political establishment have been able to resist demands for the restoration of the death penalty if such a horrifying massacre had taken place here? Support for capital punishment remains largely passive, but widespread; it occasionally surges in the aftermath of horrifying crimes, particularly when children are involved, such as the Soham murders in 2003.
But what if a bomb detonated outside our Parliament, followed by the systematic, methodical slaughter of dozens of teenagers?
Norway is undoubtedly a very different society to our own: the last execution in peacetime took place in 1876, nearly a century before the last man was hanged in Britain. In the aftermath of far-right terrorist Anders Breivik's unbearable massacre, just 16 per cent of Norwegians advocated the return of the death penalty.
Even when the country remained in a state of shock just five days after 77 civilians were murdered, the Prime Minister, Jens Stoltenberg, struck a defiant note that would have been unthinkable in many countries.
"The Norwegian response to violence is more democracy, more openness and greater political participation," he said. No crackdowns on civil liberties, but a pledge not to allow a fanatic to succeed in eroding Norway's democracy. And so Norway's justice system plays it by the book. It will be due process, not revenge, that determines where he will be locked up.
Parts of the trial are televised, although key elements will not be – including Breivik's testimony, depriving him of the platform he clearly craves.
What has already emerged is a smiling, unrepentant terrorist. One of the most chilling moments was an exchange of handshakes with prosecutors, court officials and the psychiatrist: as if to say "pleased to do business with you".
But as Norway's justice system treats him as any other defendant, the country sends a defiant message that the horrors of July 2011 will not change it.
arista
17-04-2012, 05:35 PM
They should bring back the Death Penalty for Him.
It would be a good End to it.
Shaun
17-04-2012, 05:43 PM
yes arista, you could buy a copy of the execution and watch it on Bluray x
arista
17-04-2012, 05:50 PM
yes arista, you could buy a copy of the execution and watch it on Bluray x
No thats not the Point Here
This Nazi Killed - Shooting many young like you
in the Head.
He should be Killed.
As while he is Alive he is getting more Nazi's on his side.
Sticks
17-04-2012, 05:50 PM
No
Keep him alive and make him see the triumph of multiculturalism, which he tried to destroy.
arista
17-04-2012, 05:54 PM
No
Keep him alive and make him see the triumph of multiculturalism, which he tried to destroy.
He will not see it.
bbfan1991
17-04-2012, 05:58 PM
Anders Breivik is evil, no remorse and he is trying to get put into psychiatric care rather than go to prison. I hope he rots in hell!
Anders Breivik is evil, no remorse and he is trying to get put into psychiatric care rather than go to prison. I hope he rots in hell!
Other way round, he thinks ending up in psychiatric care would be the ultimate humiliation
bbfan1991
17-04-2012, 06:09 PM
Oops my bad:blush:, he is a nutcase.
mrlecturer
17-04-2012, 06:15 PM
can we just imagine the headlines, debates, propaganda, policies that would've been shaped if he were a Muslim?
#justsayin'
arista
17-04-2012, 06:18 PM
Oops my bad:blush:, he is a nutcase.
Yes a Evil One.
can we just imagine the headlines, debates, propaganda, policies that would've been shaped if he were a Muslim?
#justsayin'
Headlines like this probably ;)
http://disinfo.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/SunNorway911.jpg
They actually printed that on the assumption that if there'd been a terror attack it must have been Muslims responsible
arista
17-04-2012, 06:31 PM
That was only the 1st print.
mrlecturer
17-04-2012, 06:59 PM
Headlines like this probably ;)
http://disinfo.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/SunNorway911.jpg
They actually printed that on the assumption that if there'd been a terror attack it must have been Muslims responsible
HAHA SERIOUSLY?
wow :nono:
arista
18-04-2012, 06:21 PM
Today In Court
The Breivek Nazi today said
he wants to be Let Go
or Put To Death.
I hope while in Prison another better Prisoner
will Kill this No Good Nazi.
arista
23-08-2012, 04:30 PM
http://news.sky.com/story/975906/mass-killer-breiviks-cell-has-private-gym
Mass Killer Breivik's Cell Has Private Gym
He also gets letters from fans like a Lady in America
who backs his Politics.
http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2012/6/21/175967/default/v1/146624134-1-522x293.jpg
Tomorrow they pick if he goes to Prison or Mental Hospital
What The Feck
Put him to Death.
lostalex
23-08-2012, 05:17 PM
this man will probably be free before he dies, he'll be allowed back into Norwegian society probably.
arista
23-08-2012, 05:23 PM
this man will probably be free before he dies, he'll be allowed back into Norwegian society probably.
That is so Dumb
Me. I Am Salman
23-08-2012, 05:27 PM
What a ****ing joke
lostalex
23-08-2012, 05:28 PM
That is so Dumb
I agree it's dumb, but it's true.
arista
24-08-2012, 10:36 AM
Sane and a 21 years Sentance
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/9496330/Anders-Breivik-verdict-live.html
Kazanne
24-08-2012, 10:41 AM
Can't believe he only got 21 years,wtf,it's nothing comapred to all those lives he took,it's so wrong.
Me. I Am Salman
24-08-2012, 10:50 AM
The murderer of 77 people now has everything he wants. For the next 20 years he will slowly slip from public view and consciousness. Then, dramatically, he will return. As his Preventive Detention comes up for review, there will be a fresh wave of global media attention on the man and his crimes. It will be like a retrial, but with an intoxicating extra ingredient; the possibility, however remote, of his release.
He should never be released.
arista
24-08-2012, 11:00 AM
They have also said after 21 years they can add another 21 years.
He is one Evil punk they do not want him free ever
Livia
24-08-2012, 11:28 AM
He has been given the maximum sentence allowed in Norway. He wanted this and they gave it to him. They should have condemned him to scream the rest of his life away clawing at the walls of a padded cell.
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