Appearing offline

[Shaun]

Okay so I could go into a big hoo-ha about why I think appearing offline is stupid in the first place but that's not really my motivation for making this thread.

I've noticed now that a number of participants in forum games still insist upon appearing offline. This is more of a personal plea to those sorts of members, rather than a general complaint, for you to stop appearing offline - because this is really not helpful when I, or other members (involved in a game) need to contact you.

I know it's only a small detail but it's so frustrating and I ultimately think appearing offline is totally pointless. Stop pretending you're a ****ing enigma and just appear online like the rest of us chumps. Capisce?

[Vicky.]

http://209.85.62.26/html/emoticons/ninja.gif

I agree though. I usually appear offline, but appeared online through elimination

[Benjamin]

No. :tongue:

[Shaun]

Ben you're the main person I'm directing this at :suspect: I know Karl, KG, MMAI and DTM always appear online.

[Benjamin]

Ben you're the main person I'm directing this at :suspect: I know Karl, KG, MMAI and DTM always appear online.


:suspect:

I usually appear online, but during The Mole I switch so none of you can see when I'm about to post the quiz. :tongue:

[Novo]

Mods should all appear online

[Shaun]

but that's mean :bawling:

[Kerry]

I think mods should appear online and also shouldn't reply to posts once a thread is closed. It's not fair on others

[Vicky.]

I reply after its closed to tell people why it was closed D:

[Kerry]

I reply after its closed to tell people why it was closed D:

No, thats fair enough. I mean when mods add their two penneth yet the thread remains closed

[Benjamin]

I replied to that MMI thread just to clear things up, as some people seemed to think I was digging at MMI, which was far from what that was about. It honestly was to do with The Mole.

[Kerry]

I replied to that MMI thread just to clear things up, as some people seemed to think I was digging at MMI, which was far from what that was about. It honestly was to do with The Mole.

OK but it's still unfair no?

[Vicky.]

I also dont see the problem with mods appearing offline. Its very very rare to get a PM about anything anyways, and if people have a problem they use report, which we still see and deal with when appearing offline, or they use the private forum, which we also see and deal with :/

[Locke.]

Yeah that is really annoying. Especially when the mod is replying to you and you can't get them back :bored:

[Kerry]

Yeah that is really annoying. Especially when the mod is replying to you and you can't get them back :bored:

I wanted to reply to a post of yours only to find I couldn't as it was closed but then a mod had been able to reply for their view

Not saying the view was right or wrong. Just that if a threads closed it's closed

[Jordan.]

Never understood the need one bit.

[Novo]

Most of the time when threads are reopened by mods it's just to have a quick dig before they close it again.. a horrible cowardly thing to do :bored:

[Benjamin]

OK but it's still unfair no?

Nope because I was offline and came back to see everyone assuming I was digging at him. I have two options; either start a new thread to clear that up or clarify in that same thread (yes ok, members cannot reply, but seeing as that was my thread I felt that I am allowed to reply to it). It's not like I do it all the time.

[Vicky.]

Most of the time when threads are reopened by mods it's just to have a quick dig before they close it again.. a horrible cowardly thing to do :bored:

Actually sometimes its accidental. We dont actually need to reopen them to post in them :/

I have replied to a closed thread before without realizing its closed. I usually delete my reply though once I realize.

If you use todays posts...it doesnt have the lock next to the thread

[Kerry]

Nope because I was offline and came back to see everyone assuming I was digging at him. I have two options; either start a new thread to clear that up or clarify in that same thread (yes ok, members cannot reply, but seeing as that was my thread I felt that I am allowed to reply to it). It's not like I do it all the time.

Never said you did but in fairness - right to reply should be for all

BTW this isn't a dig or personal. Seen it before

[Benjamin]

Never said you did but in fairness - right to reply should be for all

BTW this isn't a dig or personal. Seen it before

Like I said. I could have started a new thread to clarify the reason for that thread. But that would have given way to a thread turning into the way the other one did and being closed. So for the sake of saving more arguments it was easier to explain my intentions in that thread.

[Kerry]

OK well, not turning this the same way so.....

[Locke.]

Or you could have just left it as it was.. it's not like MM&I would have been round your house in the morning to beat you up

[Benjamin]

Or you could have just left it as it was.. it's not like MM&I would have been round your house in the morning to beat you up

No, but I didn't want him or anyone else to think I was digging at him. That thread was made due to The Mole and some players thinking he was female, which I did not explain properly in the OP. I'm not here to pick on members, yet some of you like to think everything is a drama because there is nothing else better to do on TiBB.

That wasn't a reference to anyone in particular but if you want to take it as a personal attack, by all means feel free to. :tongue:

[Kerry]

MM&I should post a thread saying his gender surely? (I think already done?)

Regardless, it shouldn't matter. A post is a post on a forum. I don't recall genitals

[Benjamin]

MM&I should post a thread saying his gender surely? (I think already done?)

Regardless, it shouldn't matter. A post is a post on a forum. I don't recall genitals

It was more to clear up confusion as several players throughout the game thought he was female because his name isn't a clear indicator of gender. :hugesmile:

[Kerry]

'k

[Jords]

Agreed that its totally pointless but mods should be made to always appear online.

[Benjamin]

Agreed that its totally pointless but mods should be made to always appear online.

During The Mole I appear offline because otherwise they can see stuff I'm doing for tasks etc.

But you can rest assured at least one of us will be online at any given time. For example I'm usually online between midnight and 7am. :)

[Pyramid*]

I think mods should appear online and also shouldn't reply to posts once a thread is closed. It's not fair on others

No, thats fair enough. I mean when mods add their two penneth yet the thread remains closed

OK but it's still unfair no?

Yeah that is really annoying. Especially when the mod is replying to you and you can't get them back :bored:

I wanted to reply to a post of yours only to find I couldn't as it was closed but then a mod had been able to reply for their view

Not saying the view was right or wrong. Just that if a threads closed it's closed

Most of the time when threads are reopened by mods it's just to have a quick dig before they close it again.. a horrible cowardly thing to do :bored:

Never said you did but in fairness - right to reply should be for all

BTW this isn't a dig or personal. Seen it before

Agreed that its totally pointless but mods should be made to always appear online.


I agree with every single one of the above posts.

Mods should always appear online.

When a thread is closed - no further comments should be allowed. At all.

Point in case:

http://thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4423816&postcount=85

Forget the obvious gang pack mentality.... just home in on one particular member..................... after the thread has been closed

[Benjamin]

I agree with every single one of the above posts.

Mods should always appear online.

When a thread is closed - no further comments should be allowed. At all.

Then during any game I'll run from now on, I'll step down from my mod position whilst running it. I personally don't see the big issue with appearing online, I see it as another excuse to have a pop at us. When I was a member it did not bother me one iota if a mod appeared online because you generally know that at least one will be there at any given time as there are so many of us...

[Vicky.]

I still cant think of any reason why it would be a problem for mods to appear offline...

As I said, reports still come through as usual, and are dealt with as usual.

And I cant think of any 'emergency' or anything that would require a PM straight back. Or any other reason why you would need to know which mod is online :/

[Benjamin]

I still cant think of any reason why it would be a problem for mods to appear offline...

As I said, reports still come through as usual, and are dealt with as usual.

And I cant think of any 'emergency' or anything that would require a PM straight back. Or any other reason why you would need to know which mod is online :/

Exactly. Although for some reason it seems to bother certain members. I'd like to know the reason why though.

[Locke.]

It's a secret :idc:

[Kerry]

I know it can be reported and will get dealt with ASAP but if for instance, someone posted personal information about another, I'd like to know and see there was someone around who could deal with it immediately rather than having to sit around to see if it happened

[Novo]

Don't know why you should appear offline though? i find it easier when Mods are viewable online then you actually know they'll reply then rather then guessing that they are going to be online.. and as for the game bit surely you can just go offline to do the actually task and then back to online afterwards instead of remaining offline for the entire game which is probably frustrating for the contestants as well when they want to get hold of you.

Shape up Mods. :idc:

[Kerry]

Example

Mods/admin all offline

Member gets their name/address posted on here by another member who knows them

Now - do they feel safe in the knowledge that at some point someone will be around to delete it? Or do they feel safe seeing another mod IS online to do so?

[Vicky.]

Don't know why you should appear offline though? i find it easier when Mods are viewable online then you actually know they'll reply then rather then guessing that they are going to be online.. and as for the game bit surely you can just go offline to do the actually task and then back to online afterwards instead of remaining offline for the entire game which is probably frustrating for the contestants as well when they want to get hold of you.

Shape up Mods. :idc:

I do it because when I used to appear online, people would moan about what I was doing. No joke.

If they had reported something and I viewed a different thread for a while, I would have them moaning on about me not dealing with the report immediately, even though I had not seen the report thread.

Why should anyone appear offline?

[Vicky.]

Example

Mods/admin all offline

Member gets their name/address posted on here by another member who knows them

Now - do they feel safe in the knowledge that at some point someone will be around to delete it? Or do they feel safe seeing another mod IS online to do so?

But if a mod was online, they would delete it. And if they werent, obviously it would be when the next mod gets online. Im not quite getting the point here :/

[Kerry]

But if a mod was online, they would delete it. And if they werent, obviously it would be when the next mod gets online. Im not quite getting the point here :/

My point is it's reassuring to see that mods are about

[Vicky.]

Fair enough, I did miss the point then :tongue:

[Kerry]

Discourages spammers and old members rejoining too. Who's likely to pull a fast one if they see mods/admin online?

[Kerry]

Fair enough, I did miss the point then :tongue:

:)

[Vicky.]

Discourages spammers and old members rejoining too. Who's likely to pull a fast one if they see mods/admin online?

Trust me, mods being online does not discourage spammers and banned members :p

You would think it would, but not here :S

[Kerry]

Trust me, mods being online does not discourage spammers and banned members :p

You would think it would, but not here :S

Oh :/

[Marc]

I get emails when somebody reports something or PMs me. So I would usually come on once that happens. Appearing offline as a host of a game, like Ben does is good because people can track what he does to get a leg up on a task.

[Kerry]

I get emails when somebody reports something or PMs me. So I would usually come on once that happens. Appearing offline as a host of a game, like Ben does is good because people can track what he does to get a leg up on a task.

Does that not work both ways? For tasks I mean? Mod's can see WHO people are PMing for instance. Members can't.

[Marc]

Does that not work both ways? For tasks I mean? Mod's can see WHO people are PMing for instance. Members can't.

But that is just 'an ability' that we have with the MOD status. I can't change that?

[Kerry]

Ugh, I know. And fine when not abused to the advantage of mods only (NOT all I know!)

Anyway. I'm off. Night/morning people x

[Marc]

I don't know what you mean there sorry

[arista]

Mods should all appear online



Yes Mods that appear offline do not want to help Posters
they are hidden.


That should be Illegal.

[Pyramid*]

Then during any game I'll run from now on, I'll step down from my mod position whilst running it. I personally don't see the big issue with appearing online, I see it as another excuse to have a pop at us. When I was a member it did not bother me one iota if a mod appeared online because you generally know that at least one will be there at any given time as there are so many of us...

I can't speak for the other 5 members or so who voiced the same opinion, but I can tell you that it's not a pop, and neither does it bother me. We are allowed opinions on how the forum runs. We may not have any weight behind it, or any impact but we do have a right to discuss such things do we not?

[Marc]

I think Ben appearing offline to hide things in people's posts and do things for tasks is fair. Imagine having another contestant who see's them all and wins that task it'll be lame.

[James]

There's nothing wrong with appearing offline, and no problem with mods appearing offline - it puts individual mods under less pressure. Many of you would agree if you were moderators yourself.

[Niamh.]

I've changed to appearing online, if it bothers people that much.

[billy123]

I always appear offline because arista is always watching 24/7

[MTVN]

I might change mine back to online actually, only had it offline because otherwise it always shows what you're actually doing on the site.

It's fair enough if UKT appears offline because of what he's doing on the Mole though if another Mod is playing the game wouldn't that give them a bit of an unfair advantage because they could see what he was doing while ordinary members couldn't? And normally I'd probably say it is better for Mods to appear online but it's not really that big an issue

[arista]

I've changed to appearing online, if it bothers people that much.


Thats the Spirit
Lady.

[Boothy]

I don't see the point in it, but I've no problem with mods appearing offline. If I was that upset with a post I'd report it and, as Vicky has pointed out, mods get report notifications (or whatever they're called) regardless of appearing offline or online. I've never felt the need to PM a mod instead of reporting.

I agree with Kerry that mods shouldn't be able to post in closed threads unless they're clarifying why it was closed. I've seen a few times mods give their opinions in a closed thread. It's not fair for them to abuse their power and 'have the last word', so to speak, when the rest of us aren't able to reply.

[Niamh.]

I don't see the point in it, but I've no problem with mods appearing offline. If I was that upset with a post I'd report it and, as Vicky has pointed out, mods get report notifications (or whatever they're called) regardless of appearing offline or online. I've never felt the need to PM a mod instead of reporting.

I agree with Kerry that mods shouldn't be able to post in closed threads unless they're clarifying why it was closed. I've seen a few times mods give their opinions in a closed thread. It's not fair for them to abuse their power and 'have the last word', so to speak, when the rest of us aren't able to reply.

I really don't think it happens that often though, not enough for it to be an issue anyway. And, I think in Bens case with that MM&I thread, like he already said, it was his thread to start with and what he did post was an explanation as to why he started the thread in the first place.

[Ninastar]

I don't see the point in it, but I've no problem with mods appearing offline. If I was that upset with a post I'd report it and, as Vicky has pointed out, mods get report notifications (or whatever they're called) regardless of appearing offline or online. I've never felt the need to PM a mod instead of reporting.

I agree with Kerry that mods shouldn't be able to post in closed threads unless they're clarifying why it was closed. I've seen a few times mods give their opinions in a closed thread. It's not fair for them to abuse their power and 'have the last word', so to speak, when the rest of us aren't able to reply.

:worship:

[MTVN]

I think it was just this line that was the problem with the last reply in the MM&I thread:
yet again this forum does what it does best and jumps to conclusions of spite and hate blah blah blah

I don't have a problem with a bit of clarification but I don't think it's fair to post that when members cant reply to it

[Marc]

I'm gonna close this thread and make a smart ass remark once I've done it :joker:

[michael21]

I'm gonna close this thread and make a smart ass remark once I've done it :joker:

:laugh3:

the good think about Appearing offline is you can pop up and say boo :joker:

[Boothy]

I'm gonna close this thread and make a smart ass remark once I've done it :joker:

:joker:

[Ninastar]

he's offline :suspect:

[Benjamin]

I might change mine back to online actually, only had it offline because otherwise it always shows what you're actually doing on the site.

It's fair enough if UKT appears offline because of what he's doing on the Mole though if another Mod is playing the game wouldn't that give them a bit of an unfair advantage because they could see what he was doing while ordinary members couldn't? And normally I'd probably say it is better for Mods to appear online but it's not really that big an issue

I appeared online at first for the game for that reason, then Niamh got executed so I switched to appear offline so no player could see what I was planning. :)

[MTVN]

I appeared online at first for the game for that reason, then Niamh got executed so I switched to appear offline so no player could see what I was planning. :)

Oh ok, fair enough :)

[Marc]

he's offline :suspect:

LOL I'm on 3G at work and it keeps logging me out of TiBB. I should be online now?

[Zippy]

Yes I think mods should appear online too. I can understand not wanting any hassle but thats all part of being a mod. Can't be all power and perks.

[Jords]

I always appear offline because arista is always watching 24/7

:joker::joker::joker:

[Tom4784]

I can understand games but I don't think it makes a difference with mods, if you send a PM or a report then we'll still see it and there's nearly always a mod around to answer queries anyway.

[Zippy]

I've changed to appearing online, if it bothers people that much.

well done

although it doesnt bother me that much. I never even notice who's on/off unless they post.

[Doogle]

I don't see the problem, as long as at least 1 mod is shown as online why would it matter if they want to appear offline? If you had a problem surely you could just pm the one shown online, even if they weren't your first choice they're still a mod and they would help? Plus you could report so I don't get what the big deal is :laugh:

[ILoveTRW]

i didn't even realise you could appear offline
i havent logged onto this site in years

[InOne]

Never seen the need really

I got nothing to hide :suspect:

[Pyramid*]

I think mods should appear online and also shouldn't reply to posts once a thread is closed. It's not fair on others

No, thats fair enough. I mean when mods add their two penneth yet the thread remains closed

OK but it's still unfair no?

Yeah that is really annoying. Especially when the mod is replying to you and you can't get them back :bored:

I wanted to reply to a post of yours only to find I couldn't as it was closed but then a mod had been able to reply for their view

Not saying the view was right or wrong. Just that if a threads closed it's closed

Most of the time when threads are reopened by mods it's just to have a quick dig before they close it again.. a horrible cowardly thing to do :bored:

Never said you did but in fairness - right to reply should be for all

BTW this isn't a dig or personal. Seen it before

Agreed that its totally pointless but mods should be made to always appear online.


I agree with every single one of the above posts.

Mods should always appear online.

When a thread is closed - no further comments should be allowed. At all.

Point in case:

http://thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4423816&postcount=85 (http://thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4423816&postcount=85)

Forget the obvious gang pack mentality.... just home in on one particular member..................... after the thread has been closed

[Marc]

Pyramid I never meant that to be a snide comment once it was closed :nono:

I was just replying and UkTurtle closed it at the same time. I didn't even know he was closing it.

[MTVN]

Thought that would kill you not being able to reply to that :joker:

[Novo]

Was waiting for this :joker:

[Pyramid*]

Pyramid I never meant that to be a snide comment once it was closed :nono:

I was just replying and UkTurtle closed it at the same time. I didn't even know he was closing it.
Really.. so what was it meant to be then Marc? I take it if it was not meant that way, that you will remove it?

going by the comments from Novo and MTVN - it's pretty clear how your comment came across.

[Marc]

Was waiting for this :joker:

ROFL I know, as soon as I saw it I thought it would happen. :rolleyes: Some people :bored:

Really.. so what was it meant to be then Marc? I take it if it was not meant that way, that you will remove it?

going by the comments from Novo and MTVN - it's pretty clear how your comment came across.

No I wont remove it Pyramid. This occurrence was just a coincidence. I don't do it, or at least if I didn't in the past I wont be anymore, because I know it's been expressed as annoying in this thread.

Good day :)

[Pyramid*]

ROFL I know, as soon as I saw it I thought it would happen. :rolleyes: Some people :bored:



No I wont remove it Pyramid. This occurrence was just a coincidence. I don't do it, or at least if I didn't in the past I wont be anymore, because I know it's been expressed as annoying in this thread.

Good day :)

BIB. Clearly it had it's intended intent & effect then Marc. :bored:

Well done and good day to you too. :)

[Shaun]

honestly, can't you live your menopause out somewhere else

[Pyramid*]

honestly, can't you live your menopause out somewhere else

Long past it Shaun ;) sorry to disappoint - you'll have to find another angle to bitch about.

[Niamh.]

Closed-I think this thread has run it's course now.