Live feed axed

[DigitalSid]

Darren_Ruback Darren Ruback
Big Brother PR just confirmed no live feed this year!

[Firewire]

Wat

[RichardG]

And that's why I decided not to believe that rumour yesterday. :tongue:
Oh well, that's it, no live feed. At least we finally have an answer.

[Pronshi]

ratings are gonna drop
bb10 standards

[Tom4784]

I couldn't care less about it. I only watch the main shows anyway, if I wanted to constantly hear bird noises I'd watch a nature program and get the visuals to go along with it.

[RichardG]

ratings are gonna drop
bb10 standards

If C5 can averge 2.5m like BB10 did then I think they'll be very happy!

[Smithy]

I couldn't care less about it. I only watch the main shows anyway, if I wanted to constantly hear bird noises I'd watch a nature program and get the visuals to go along with it.

[2]

[Pronshi]

If C5 can averge 2.5m like BB10 did then I think they'll be very happy!

they could get hights of bb8-bb9 2.5-4million
if they kept live feed with a red button

I myself dont watch it much only when im bored otta my head
but a lot of fans will not watch

[Firewire]

I have never properly watched live feed and haven't seen the joy in it.

[Vanbot]

I only ever dipped in and out of the live feed anyway, when it was on E4. I got through Big Brother 1 without any live feed whatsoever. Besides, people who watch the live feed surely have no need to watch the highlights so I never see how that factors into things.

And it'll be nice not to have threads obsessing over what was shown in the highlights and what wasn't. More room for manipulation probably, but at least that's their call to make now.

[keithafc]

I couldn't care less about it. I only watch the main shows anyway, if I wanted to constantly hear bird noises I'd watch a nature program and get the visuals to go along with it.
+1. LF is bull****.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Gutted:bawling:, i thought the reliable source from lastnight was someone from C5.:mad:

[Tom4784]

People overestimate the effects of the live feed, they wouldn't have axed it on C4 in the first place if it was doing well. It was obviously under performing and ultimately wasn't worth the price of it's upkeep. It's only the really fanatical fans that'll care about it and they are apart of a small minority.

[RichardG]

they could get hights of bb8-bb9 2.5-4million
if they kept live feed with a red button

I myself dont watch it much only when im bored otta my head
but a lot of fans will not watch

BB11 was getting around 2.6m last year and, honestly, although it's a new channel and so on, I still don't think it would be able to jump up from 2.6m to 4m within a year, live feed or no live feed!

If people don't want to watch the show just because there's no LF then fine, let them, it's a little stupid to ignore it altogether in my opinion but hey, it's their choice. I only watched live feed quite a lot on BB11, I survived BB1-BB10 with only tiny bits of live feed every now and then if I was bored and i've still enjoyed the show.

[Gillian-73]

Live feed let us make our own minds up about the housemates instead of having to rely on how they decide to edit them! It wasn't all bird noise lol! i will still be watching but i know dozens who won't be!

['Conor]

who gives a ****

oh no, i won't be able to listen to bird noises and planes and watch people sleep

[daniel-lewis-1985]

BB11 was getting around 2.6m last year and, honestly, although it's a new channel and so on, I still don't think it would be able to jump up from 2.6m to 4m within a year, live feed or no live feed!

If people don't want to watch the show just because there's no LF then fine, let them, it's a little stupid to ignore it altogether in my opinion but hey, it's their choice. I only watched live feed quite a lot on BB11, I survived BB1-BB10 with only tiny bits of live feed every now and then if I was bored and i've still enjoyed the show.

Last year was averaging 2.9.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

If people don't want to watch the show just because there's no LF then fine, let them, it's a little stupid to ignore it altogether in my opinion but hey, it's their choice. I only watched live feed quite a lot on BB11, I survived BB1-BB10 with only tiny bits of live feed every now and then if I was bored and i've still enjoyed the show.

Totally agree Richard i was one of the ones who loved watching LF, but it will not stop me watching the HL's, but having said that, i dont think will i enjoy the show as much cause there no LF.

[RichardG]

Last year was averaging 2.9.

Really? :hugesmile: oh.
It still wouldn't be able to jump up to 4m regularly though just because of live feed if it never managed that last year when there WAS live feed.

[dizzy bint]

I only seriously watched live feed during BB2 and UBB. I shan't miss it.

If it's uneconomic it's uneconomic that's all there is to it. Other shows like IACGMOOH no longer have it and their ratings don't reflect that. I think BB on C5 will do fine for them without it.

[seanraff07]

I wanted LF back but ah well, I will still watch BB I'm not gonna sit and greet about it. Just need to accept that it isn't coming back :)

[Omah]

Live feed let us make our own minds up about the housemates instead of having to rely on how they decide to edit them! It wasn't all bird noise lol!

Exactly ..... ;)

The HLs only show what the (usually inept) producers consider to be part of the "script" so they can manipulate the views and votes of those who haven't seen "the other side of the coin" ..... :suspect:

[Tom4784]

I don't watch BB to gain an accurate view of it's inane contestants, I watch it because it's a bit of trashy fluff that's easy to watch.

[Callum]

That's sad to hear. Now we will only see them in edited form, the nastiest of people could be made to look like a saint through the power of edits, that's why live feeds are useful.

[Suze]

I don't watch BB to gain an accurate view of it's inane contestants, I watch it because it's a bit of trashy fluff that's easy to watch.

A lot of people will watch it for both of the above reasons, and if they are parting with money for voting, although they will never get a 100% accuracy on housemates personalities, live feed would give a better idea than just highlights would. So it is scamming viewers, ardent BB fans, to a degree.

[starry]

I don't watch BB to gain an accurate view of it's inane contestants, I watch it because it's a bit of trashy fluff that's easy to watch.

You just like being manipulated then, not everyone does. And I doubt HMs do either if you think they matter. They will like people to get a rounded view of them too.

They are idiots for taking away what virtually every Big Brother around the world has had and still has. They just want to make it as trashy as I'm a Celebrity. And not everybody who watches Big Brother does so because they want trash. I'm sure many who have watched Big Brother have hardly watched any of the other half assed reality shows.

[Omah]

I'm sure many who have watched Big Brother have hardly watched any of the other half assed reality shows.

Yeah, "alleged" reality shows ..... :joker:

I remember when even "Hell's Kitchen" had a short live segment after the main show and what an eye-opener that was ..... :laugh2:

[Stu]

There are few things I hate in life more than the 'it's all bird noises lol' argument.

I mean it's not ... is it.

[g17m]

maybe not 100%
dsrealitybites Reality Bites
Can't reveal BB live feed decision. But decision has been made. Really sorry I can't say more.
11 minutes ago

[Scarlett.]

I swear I've seen millions of threads saying live feed is axed but no one ever seems to believe them xD

[mymidas]

If this is true I am not surprised. Endemol has been given what around 200 million by ch5 and you can bet that they intend to do the bare minimum to keep as much of that as they can as pur profit. No LF means no editors sitting around all night sanitizing the footage for LF it also means no need for camera operators as they can all be locked off and left running overnight to be reviewed the next day. This will save Endemol a small fortune in wages costs over the next 2 series they will be laughing all the way to the bank that CH5 werent more insistant about getting it.

[Vicky.]

There are few things I hate in life more than the 'it's all bird noises lol' argument.

I mean it's not ... is it.

Of course not. Sometimes we get airplane sounds :tongue:

[g17m]

If this is true I am not surprised. Endemol has been given what around 200 million by ch5 and you can bet that they intend to do the bare minimum to keep as much of that as they can as pur profit. No LF means no editors sitting around all night sanitizing the footage for LF it also means no need for camera operators as they can all be locked off and left running overnight to be reviewed the next day. This will save Endemol a small fortune in wages costs over the next 2 series they will be laughing all the way to the bank that CH5 werent more insistant about getting it.

Nah endemol + channel 5 will want to pour as much as they can into BB so it gets good enough ratings for Channel 5 to renew it = more money for sp£nd£mol

[Locke.]

Forum will be dead during the day without it.

I would only be watching it late at night so not too bothered, but it is still one of the main and most important things about the show so should be available to watch.

[CharlieO]

Well this is a disappointment. Oh well, we win some we lose some.

[Sophiee]

a bit disappointing, it was useful to see how the housemates were actually like, instead of seeing them with bb's editing.

[keithafc]

There are few things I hate in life more than the 'it's all bird noises lol' argument.

I mean it's not ... is it.
Of course it is from what I have heard and seen from the Live feed. Lets be honest, they cut far too much out from the live feed conversation wise and it can ruin it.

Its not worth paying for me.

[Jase.]

Sigh. Floppy times.

[Blink_Me]

Bad mistake having no live feed.

[BringItOn]

Oh well bit shocked as it's supposed to be 'the biggest brother yet' though without LF it seems a little cheap and plain but ahh well still looking forward to the show :)

[Gusto Brunt]

Live feed let us make our own minds up about the housemates instead of having to rely on how they decide to edit them! It wasn't all bird noise lol! i will still be watching but i know dozens who won't be!

You hit the nail on the head. All we're gonna be given is an hour's edited highlights every evening.

What a load of rubbish. The whole point of BB is that's it's 24-hour viewing. You dip in when you want to and you learn to love or dislike the HMs.

It's not supposed to be some edited highlights show. This is very bad news.

I was looking forward to BB. Now, I have lost total interest. I cannot see myself getting into this series with just the highlights.

Channel 5 have totally misunderstood what the show is about and have quite frankly ignored the fans. :nono:

I can see BB going down the pan. It wouldn't surprise me if C5 axe the series midway through due to dire ratings.

[Patrick]

So glad I didn't believe the bollocks last night.

It sucks to be honest, but I reckon we'll get it for BB13 - on the red button, hopefully.
They probably didn't have time this year.

Plus it's on after Summer guys, most of us would be at work or school anyway - there would of been no point in any of us paying for it or sh*t like that.

[Patrick]

I can see BB going down the pan. It wouldn't surprise me if C5 axe the series midway through due to dire ratings.


The show will manage 1 Million at least, Channel 5 wouldn't axe that :bored: Don't be silly, especially not with how much money they've put into it.

It does suck though, I mean I couldn't get properly into BB10 with no Live Feed so you know. :sad:

The last series I got properly hooked on and was constantly watching and always talking about it was the wonderful BB9 - and that's because of the Red Button Feed.

None of this, online bullcrap - last year I had LF open in a tab whilst on Facebook or TiBB it was more like listening to LF lol.

[Jords]

Im over it anyway :laugh:

[bananarama]

What a shame........ Bottom line is that those who are not interested in live feed cannot be regarded as true BB fans. A fan will want as much as one can get in order to make up ones own mind instead of relying on contrived edits made for entertainment motives........

Channel 5 version of BB celebrity or otherwise is doomed without live feed.......

Those not interested in live feed want nothing more than a contrived soap opera made up of amateurs and will wast their votes on what at the end of the day will be a fraudulant version of a reality show......

[keithafc]

The show will manage 1 Million at least, Channel 5 wouldn't axe that :bored: Don't be silly, especially not with how much money they've put into it.

It does suck though, I mean I couldn't get properly into BB10 with no Live Feed so you know. :sad:

The last series I got properly hooked on and was constantly watching and always talking about it was the wonderful BB9 - and that's because of the Red Button Feed.

None of this, online bullcrap - last year I had LF open in a tab whilst on Facebook or TiBB it was more like listening to LF lol.
Thing is Patrick, me and you loved BB9. I take you watched the Live feed? I didn't and i still loved it. I don't think the Live feed means everything. The biggest thing is the housemates.

[InOne]

Damn. Live feed can be great sometimes, especially at night, you get to see such good banter and the convo is always better. I've always enjoyed having it on in the background to have a look at it now and again.

But alas we will get carefully edited perceptions of what actually goes on. No doubt a few "stories" will be created go carefully nudge us towards a winner. Example, JJJ and Andrews she awkward geek to "ladies man" with Mario as the "older brother" figure. The winner will basically be who they want it to be and who fits the mould at that time.

[keithafc]

Damn. Live feed can be great sometimes, especially at night, you get to see such good banter and the convo is always better. I've always enjoyed having it on in the background to have a look at it now and again.

But alas we will get carefully edited perceptions of what actually goes on. No doubt a few "stories" will be created go carefully nudge us towards a winner. Example, JJJ and Andrews she awkward geek to "ladies man" with Mario as the "older brother" figure. The winner will basically be who they want it to be and who fits the mould at that time.
Why have a highlights show at all then InOne? This argument doesn't work because the vast majority of Big Brother viewers don't watch Live feed. The majority of voters who crown the winner most likely just watch the highlights so.

So Live feed isn't going to make that much of a difference.

[Gusto Brunt]

...Don't be silly, especially not with how much money they've put into it...

Well, they haven't put enough money in for my liking. It's BB, it's about 24-hour access to the house. Have you people forgetton about that?

Now we're stuck with with what basically is an indoor version of I'm A Celebrity Get Me Out of Here. Top and bottom, that's all BB is now.:sleep:

[InOne]

Why have a highlights show at all then InOne? This argument doesn't work because the vast majority of Big Brother viewers don't watch Live feed. The majority of voters who crown the winner most likely just watch the highlights so.

So Live feed isn't going to make that much of a difference.

Because I don't sit and watch live feed all day. And it's just a nice little luxary to make BB watching a bit better, nothing wrong with that.

And I don't know how many watch LF, but still think it would be better to have a choice, some like to have more insight into it.

[keithafc]

But people say it is basically an edited show and they choose the winner basically. But then again, Im a Celebrity get me out of here is the same, it is an edited show and is very entertaining with the right camp mates. Yet it is very successful.

[Ryan.]

You just like being manipulated then, not everyone does. And I doubt HMs do either if you think they matter. They will like people to get a rounded view of them too.

They are idiots for taking away what virtually every Big Brother around the world has had and still has. They just want to make it as trashy as I'm a Celebrity. And not everybody who watches Big Brother does so because they want trash. I'm sure many who have watched Big Brother have hardly watched any of the other half assed reality shows.

yes, well haven't you noticed that the more entertaining ones tend to stay on later on that show?? Maybe no live feed is for the best lol

[InOne]

But people say it is basically an edited show and they choose the winner basically. But then again, Im a Celebrity get me out of here is the same, it is an edited show and is very entertaining with the right camp mates. Yet it is very successful.

People watch IAC and BB for different reasons. You can't really compare them.

[Tom4784]

A lot of people will watch it for both of the above reasons, and if they are parting with money for voting, although they will never get a 100% accuracy on housemates personalities, live feed would give a better idea than just highlights would. So it is scamming viewers, ardent BB fans, to a degree.

More fool the people who vote. It's literally throwing money at nothing.

You just like being manipulated then, not everyone does. And I doubt HMs do either if you think they matter. They will like people to get a rounded view of them too.

They are idiots for taking away what virtually every Big Brother around the world has had and still has. They just want to make it as trashy as I'm a Celebrity. And not everybody who watches Big Brother does so because they want trash. I'm sure many who have watched Big Brother have hardly watched any of the other half assed reality shows.

I don't have the time to sit around all day and watch a half muted feed of a bunch of people I won't care about in a few weeks time. You're acting like BB is some grand high brow program when in reality it's just laughing at a bunch of sub humans getting pissed and making fools of themselves. Like I said before, It's fluff and nothing more. I don't get 'manipulated' (ROFL) by BB because my life doesn't revolve around it, I'll catch it if nothing else is on or if i'm not doing anything.

If you have the time and patience to watch a bunch of people sitting and picking their noses then more power to you but don't berate people who don't because it's not something to be proud of really.

[Patrick]

But people say it is basically an edited show and they choose the winner basically. But then again, Im a Celebrity get me out of here is the same, it is an edited show and is very entertaining with the right camp mates. Yet it is very successful.

You have a good point dude but IAC's original format was never about watching the house 24/7 at our discretion - it's about watching Celebs making dicks out of themselves in Bush Tucker Trials.

God I can't wait for IAC now.

No but, BB was different - they've basically took a right we had from Day 1 away from us, gave it back in BB11 and teased us with it and then removed it again. :bored:

I would of rather of had live feed this year than BB11 though - rather than sitting listening to Josie and John whisper in the covers.

[ThisIsNick]

Some people are saying no announcement was made?

There have been a few people on Twitter that have said some PR people have said they didn't know the situation with live streaming, some have said they know and aren't allowed to say, so it's mixed messages from everyone at the moment.
Channel 5 just need to send a press release out or something and confirm it.

[Omah]

You have a good point dude but IAC's original format was never about watching the house 24/7 at our discretion - it's about watching Celebs making dicks out of themselves in Bush Tucker Trials.

I'm sure that I used to watch it live thoughout the night, or at least until the early morning ..... :puzzled:

[Stu]

Of course it is from what I have heard and seen from the Live feed. Lets be honest, they cut far too much out from the live feed conversation wise and it can ruin it.

Its not worth paying for me.
No, it's not. It's really not. Certain nights are bad. Certain segments can be horrible. But bird noises form the minority of feed audio, not the majority.

I'd question the sanity of anyone who says it's mostly bird noises. It's just not, is it.

[ram513]

According to bbspy on twitter, there's still no official word about the live feed returning or not, which means that it may have not been axed, though i've lost hope in it's return anyway... :(

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Just seen this on DS's No LF Thread.

In the meantime DS have news but are not allowed to issue it till midnight?
That means theres still a chance that we have a live feed?:shrug:

[*mazedsalv**]

I would not believe anything until official confirmation comes through. A DS member put this brilliantly, the member said that the tweet was made at 1:03pm, as soon as the people walked through the front door (I'm sure they arrived at 1:02pmish), so that would mean someone would have been standing at the door, and screamed "Theres no LF" in order for the tweet to come in at that time. And I doubt that was done.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Just seen this tweet someone posted on DS

Ed_StarOnSunday Edward Gleave
There was no announcement on BB live feed. But I was told by an insider there will be news on Thursday #bbuk
3 minutes ago

This was actually posted 45 mins ago on DS

[*mazedsalv**]

Just seen this tweet someone posted on DS

Ed_StarOnSunday Edward Gleave
There was no announcement on BB live feed. But I was told by an insider there will be news on Thursday #bbuk
3 minutes ago

This was actually posted 45 mins ago on DS

Thursday? Bloody hell, just tell us FFS.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Thursday? Bloody hell, just tell us FFS.

I know there cutting it a bit fine, wish to hell they would hurry up.:rolleyes:

[Bruvva]

Not that bothered.

I wish we could have it, but I'll still watch the show.

[RichardG]

Just seen this tweet someone posted on DS

Ed_StarOnSunday Edward Gleave
There was no announcement on BB live feed. But I was told by an insider there will be news on Thursday #bbuk
3 minutes ago

This was actually posted 45 mins ago on DS

Thursday? At 10:30pm, right after launch? :joker:

[CharlieO]

Well its not definite then.

Won't get hopes up then.

[CharlieO]

Double Post. f/

[happybbfan]

No official announcement cant say im surprised by this at all.Did you really think twitter leaks would be the way to go about this.An official announcement will be made by press release.i know it has been frustrating as C5 have been so silent but there is nothing we can do atm but wait

[Blog Rider]

They could broadcast it on live-stream, Here a example feed from that site:

http://www.livestream.com/hyperstar

:)

[Blog Rider]

Sorry for the double post :(

[mymidas]

OK tv mentioned 24hr cameras in the xfactor houses. If they broadcast this on a feed then BB LF will pale into insignificance. A choice of what 4 houses is it with an assortment of rooms and characters all competetive wannabes, sound familiar to anyone?
Has OK tv mentioned this to basically get rid of the moaners? Seems an odd coincidence to me may be why CB5 decided to can LF if that is what they have done I dont blame them they cannot compete with ITV for viewers or quality.

[AJ.]

Doubt I'll watch now after watching from the start :(

[billy123]

So whats going on with the c5 website its been down on and off for 24 hours now i was convinced they were setting it up for live feed.
http://www.channel5.com/bigbrother

[billy123]

Double post

[*mazedsalv**]

An actual true insider on DS has said he knows but he is not allowed to tell, but there is no official confirmation.

"I know the answer to the much anticipated live feed news, but can't reveal it. Sorry. If they don't officially announce it tomorrow, I'd be very surprised though. Really sorry I can't reveal what was confirmed. Not trying to be an arsey showoff, but on a professional level I can't piss off the PRs when they tell me things off the record."

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

An actual true insider on DS has said he knows but he is not allowed to tell, but there is no official confirmation.

"I know the answer to the much anticipated live feed news, but can't reveal it. Sorry. If they don't officially announce it tomorrow, I'd be very surprised though. Really sorry I can't reveal what was confirmed. Not trying to be an arsey showoff, but on a professional level I can't piss off the PRs when they tell me things off the record."

I read that as well, but i thought he said there some embargment(sp) until midnight tonight, so i was thinking maybe the The Daily Star may having something in it.:shrug:

[Blog Rider]

Anyone think they could do what the BBC has done with F1 on Big Brother after this year?

If you have heard about the BBC and SKY F1 deal after this year, You would know :)

[bbfan1991]

Inevitable but at least I don't have to miss more time out from my social life to watch it now:D. Shame for the dedicated fans that love it!

[BBDodge]

Just seen this tweet someone posted on DS

Ed_StarOnSunday Edward Gleave
There was no announcement on BB live feed. But I was told by an insider there will be news on Thursday #bbuk
3 minutes ago

This was actually posted 45 mins ago on DS

Sounds like they are trying to bury bad news till after the launch. It failed as the forums are discussing the lack of live feed rather than any other issue.

[oathbreaker]

One week before Bigbrother 10 launched.
all of a sudden stories started coming out of Emergency meetings how the bosses were having cold feet about no feed.Expect news or a U turn etc etc.Of course that never happened.

We have seen a 3 hour press launch today with supposed Best of the best reporters from Bigbrother land meeting the bosses Face to face.

very basic Questions needed answers.

Its being Billed as biggest Big Brother Ever.yet clearly going to be launching with one of the smallest Range of viewing of all countries that still run the format.

why was so much money spent on stuff like HD output when clearly other things needed the money (assuming cost is going to be used yet again)

Will the editing process change from that of previous series,Namely will Endemol promise changes to the so called 'chosen one' edits.

isnt the real case C5 really only want CBB and these current moves are what its all about normal BB will be dropped owing to poor viewing figures.

If reporters cant be bothered to ask even basic questions what hope do the fans have and it explains the total wall of silence when you finally do find someone who could answer some of these questions.

The stink this entire farce has created any good news would have been sent out to try and sort this mess out.IMO they are hoping some massive launch with massive stars as HM's will be enough to silence people.Hence the delay till thursday Very poor show By C5 they clearly havent looked into the background of why the livefeed was so important to the show and the role endemol played in making the h/l show lose a lot of faith with fans.