Channel 5 and Endemol.

[Andrew.]

I dont give a **** if there's another thread is already on this. or you think im giving my opinion.

Its ****ing annoying me that all of you are raging at Channel5 all i have seen on here and facebook (and DS) are.. 'SHAME ON YOU CHANNEL 5' 'Hang you heads in shame.' 'Channel 5 are ****, bring BB back c4'

1) CHANNEL 5 ONLY BROADCAST THE SHOW. THEY HAVE NO! INVOLVEMENT IN WHAT THE SHOWS FORMAT DOES. The only thing they DO is edit, however, Endemol tell them what to show!

2) ENDEMOL MAKE IT. They are responsible for no LIVE FEED and this New Format.

Channel 5 bought the show and revived it, and brought back a well loved show. now you are all turning on them. i mean if you all keep on saying 'shame on you c5', theyll cancel it.

No matter what channel it returned on (ITV, BBC, Sky1 etc...) it would of been the same. GOD SAKE.

Also if your one of these 'DIRTY DESMOND!!!!!! IM NOT WATCHING BB ANYMORE AS ITS CRAP' .... no1curr.

p.s i know im just gonna be ridiculed for this. someone gonna say 'actually its channel 5's fault, this this this thiaufkignk. im just saying.

[Vicky.]

i mean if you all keep on saying 'shame on you c5', theyll cancel it.


Yeah, because the couple of moaners that seem to bleat the same thing all over constantly have THAT much effect on the show :D

[Andrew.]

Yeah, because the couple of moaners that seem to bleat the same thing all over constantly have THAT much effect on the show :D

Oh, if i was a worker id get sick of my Channel getting slated. for something there not doing, and get rid of the problem.

[Saph]

I doubt Ch5 will get rid of it anytime soon. Until the show starts getting less than 500 views then they'll concider cancellation.

[Vicky.]

Oh, if i was a worker id get sick of my Channel getting slated. for something there not doing, and get rid of the problem.
Hmm..possibly if it was a large majority of people who were slating it.

As it happens though, it seems to be the same few people just being very vocal about a show they claim to dislike, or even in some cases, claim not to watch.

[Andrew.]

Hmm..possibly if it was a large majority of people who were slating it.

As it happens though, it seems to be the same few people just being very vocal about a show they claim to dislike, or even in some cases, claim not to watch.

Suppose your right, to be honest *touches-wood* here on TiBB theres not that many moaners, we nice. But when i look on Digital Spy there's SO many moaners who go off on one over the slightest of things. Like the simple iPod thing, were there ALOUD to take music player in someone said on a thread 'iPODS ALOUD IN THE HOUSE. SHOWS THE SHOW IS FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!' i mean its pathetic.

[Vicky.]

Suppose your right, to be honest *touches-wood* here on TiBB theres not that many moaners, we nice. But when i look on Digital Spy there's SO many moaners who go off on one over the slightest of things. Like the simple iPod thing, were there ALOUD to take music player in someone said on a thread 'iPODS ALOUD IN THE HOUSE. SHOWS THE SHOW IS FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!' i mean its pathetic.

DS has always been like that. Im sure half the members only watch to find things to moan about :tongue:

[arista]

I dont give a **** if there's another thread is already on this. or you think im giving my opinion.

Its ****ing annoying me that all of you are raging at Channel5 all i have seen on here and facebook (and DS) are.. 'SHAME ON YOU CHANNEL 5' 'Hang you heads in shame.' 'Channel 5 are ****, bring BB back c4'

1) CHANNEL 5 ONLY BROADCAST THE SHOW. THEY HAVE NO! INVOLVEMENT IN WHAT THE SHOWS FORMAT DOES. The only thing they DO is edit, however, Endemol tell them what to show!

2) ENDEMOL MAKE IT. They are responsible for no LIVE FEED and this New Format.

Channel 5 bought the show and revived it, and brought back a well loved show. now you are all turning on them. i mean if you all keep on saying 'shame on you c5', theyll cancel it.

No matter what channel it returned on (ITV, BBC, Sky1 etc...) it would of been the same. GOD SAKE.

Also if your one of these 'DIRTY DESMOND!!!!!! IM NOT WATCHING BB ANYMORE AS ITS CRAP' .... no1curr.

p.s i know im just gonna be ridiculed for this. someone gonna say 'actually its channel 5's fault, this this this thiaufkignk. im just saying.



"DIRTY DESMOND"



No King Desmond bought this Deal
as Ch4 chucked it all away.
Its a Venture that he is pleased with
due to his Star paper doing so many Front pages on it.



The Bloated BBC can not touch this
it goes against there system
and they would in trouble if they took this.



Sky1 has no current plans to take the Deal.



ITV, though
is open to anything that gets more ratings.

[CaudleHalbard]

I doubt whether C5 and Endemol give a tinker's cuss about what a few people on internet forums think.

Only two things matter: ratings and the amount of money they've raked in. End of story!

[happybbfan]

Channel 5 is 100% responsible for the show as how it goes out and the editing of the highlights show,they are also responsible for axing the live feed too

[arista]

I doubt whether C5 and Endemol give a tinker's cuss about what a few people on internet forums think.

Only two things matter: ratings and the amount of money they've raked in. End of story!


For Sure

[Jarrod]

Channel 5 is 100% responsible for the show as how it goes out and the editing of the highlights show,they are also responsible for axing the live feed too

Channel 5 go under Endemol's orders and conditions. The Live Feed was a joined decision apparently.

[Andrew.]

Channel 5 is 100% responsible for the show as how it goes out and the editing of the highlights show,they are also responsible for axing the live feed too

Oh would you give it a rest. :nono:

ENDEMOL make the show, it is Endemols format. they were the ones who decided to get rid of live feed. it is not them who license to stream online, Endemol do. and it was a JOINT descision.

They ONLY show the show, and have LITTLE input on the format.

Producers/ Directors for C5 oversee Big Brother, as it said in the DS Article '... will over see the project.'

Channel 5 have: Bought BB... Edit the show (only slightly) and Oversee the project. Yes they havant decided to show Live Feed on 5* or C5, thats because endemol have not allowed it.

Your really annoying. your always 'shame on channel 5.' would you like it if they canceled it? i bet you weren't like this when it was Channel 4.

[luvs2think]

No problem whatsoever with Channel 5 - I think it's the best channel going. I don't care if I have to get used to a few less-than-perfect changes: I'm just glad BB's back.

[Andrew.]

No problem whatsoever with Channel 5 - I think it's the best channel going. I don't care if I have to get used to a few less-than-perfect changes: I'm just glad BB's back.

THIS. :spin:

[luvs2think]

I'm sorry but what do you mean by 'THIS'?

[Andrew.]

I'm sorry but what do you mean by 'THIS'?

Basically i agree with everything your saying. instead of saying 'why i agree with you my friend 'luvs2think' or typing out what youve said, i just say 'This.' its hard to explain.

[waterhog]

I dont give a **** if there's another thread is already on this. or you think im giving my opinion.

Its ****ing annoying me that all of you are raging at Channel5 all i have seen on here and facebook (and DS) are.. 'SHAME ON YOU CHANNEL 5' 'Hang you heads in shame.' 'Channel 5 are ****, bring BB back c4'

1) CHANNEL 5 ONLY BROADCAST THE SHOW. THEY HAVE NO! INVOLVEMENT IN WHAT THE SHOWS FORMAT DOES. The only thing they DO is edit, however, Endemol tell them what to show!

2) ENDEMOL MAKE IT. They are responsible for no LIVE FEED and this New Format.

Channel 5 bought the show and revived it, and brought back a well loved show. now you are all turning on them. i mean if you all keep on saying 'shame on you c5', theyll cancel it.

No matter what channel it returned on (ITV, BBC, Sky1 etc...) it would of been the same. GOD SAKE.

Also if your one of these 'DIRTY DESMOND!!!!!! IM NOT WATCHING BB ANYMORE AS ITS CRAP' .... no1curr.

p.s i know im just gonna be ridiculed for this. someone gonna say 'actually its channel 5's fault, this this this thiaufkignk. im just saying.


i see what you are saying < but i think the public are so outraged that ch5 have not stepped in to change what people are complaining about < after all it would be in there interest to satisy our needs.

[luvs2think]

I'm sorry but what do you mean by 'THIS'?

Basically i agree with everything your saying. instead of saying 'why i agree with you my friend 'luvs2think' or typing out what youve said, i just say 'This.' its hard to explain.

Fair enough. Thanks. I'm just a bit behind the times with the latest forum slang and acronyms and didn't know whether that was the former or the latter :spin:

[Jordan.]

You think C5 would broadcast a show they have no say in? If they wanted LF they could have got it.

[Lisa!]

Get down off ya high horse, people are allowed there own opinions, just like your having your own opinion now!!.. I love Big Brother and there is alot of things about this series that i like but in MY OPINION channel 5 have spoilt it.. i dont believe we are gettin to know the people on it, when Tara came out of the house she was shocked to be asked aload of stuff because most of it didnt happen the way channel 5 had edited it to make us think it had.
Most of the people who had met Pamela seemed to find her annoying and have a problem with it, i dont think this came across to us at all in the highlights show, i didnt find Pamela at all annoying, infact i liked her and couldnt understand everyones problem.
We have enough reality programmes like that.. TOWIE, Geordie Shore, Jersery Shore etc. Big brother was different, we got to know the real people, but because of channel 5 we have just gained another show like TOWIE and the rest.

[starry]

No problem whatsoever with Channel 5 - I think it's the best channel going.

Are you employed by them? I see you have just joined here.

[luvs2think]

Are you employed by them? I see you have just joined here.

Nope. I just like my BB and CSI.

[CaudleHalbard]

Things move on - embrace the change, as they say! :)

If C5/Endemol thought LF would add to their coffers, they would have had it like a shot. But they decided it wouldn't - so they didn't. Simple as that really.

They have an opportunity to reinstate LF for BB12, if they feel it will benefit them in some way. But they probably won't.

If C5/Endemol feel that, for every critic, there are two or more people who like (or don't mind) the changes then you are "pissing against the wind" as the saying goes! ;)

[happybbfan]

maybe you need to watch this clip from J Ford head of entertainment at C5.he states it was C5 decision to axe the live feed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXADO7EgPto
C5 have the rights to Show BB how they want and edit how they want
its up to Endomol to say what can legally be shown in highlights but 100% down to C5 editing
So yes C5 are 100% to blame for no live feed and the way in which the main show is going out.
Endomol only
Where you get the idea that Endomol are responsible for no live feed i have no idea as it is soley down to c5 to put the show out how they choose
This clip will explain that

[arista]

You think C5 would broadcast a show they have no say in? If they wanted LF they could have got it.



Wrong
Desmond set a Strict Budget
the Live Feed Team were over that budget.


24/7 staff and a legal team that mute bits.

[Shasown]

maybe you need to watch this clip from J Ford head of entertainment at C5.he states it was C5 decision to axe the live feed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXADO7EgPto
C5 have the rights to Show BB how they want and edit how they want
its up to Endomol to say what can legally be shown in highlights but 100% down to C5 editing
So yes C5 are 100% to blame for no live feed and the way in which the main show is going out.
Endomol only
Where you get the idea that Endomol are responsible for no live feed i have no idea as it is soley down to c5 to put the show out how they choose
This clip will explain that

Pointless pointing out the facts Happyland, why should andrew let the truth get in the way of his lovefest for 5

[Shasown]

Suppose your right, to be honest *touches-wood* here on TiBB theres not that many moaners, we nice. But when i look on Digital Spy there's SO many moaners who go off on one over the slightest of things. Like the simple iPod thing, were there ALOUD to take music player in someone said on a thread 'iPODS ALOUD IN THE HOUSE. SHOWS THE SHOW IS FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!' i mean its pathetic.

Then shouldnt you have posted your OP over on digitalspy?

[happybbfan]

J Ford said the axing of live feed was not about money at all

[Andrew.]

Then shouldnt you have posted your OP over on digitalspy?

I Dont love channel 5, i love big brother.

And i cant, because i signed up on Digital Spy last week with the exact same username on here, and they rejected me. i wasnt viable to use the site.

And i didnt watch that before.
It was a JOINT decision.

Jeff thinks the show has moved foward, and because the live feed wasnt in demond, he thought the show would survive without it. he was wrong.

[CaudleHalbard]

J Ford said the axing of live feed was not about money at all

And you believe it? ;)

[arista]

J Ford said the axing of live feed was not about money at all


30 staff Sacked
including live feed.

[Nikkos]

Oh, if i was a worker id get sick of my Channel getting slated. for something there not doing, and get rid of the problem.

i think their paychecks heal any emotional bruises caused by the sad minority.

[CaudleHalbard]

30 staff Sacked
including live feed.

Interesting but not altogether surprising we've lost LF if this is the case.

I've always assumed LF must add quite a bit to the costs. Someone's got to be there 24/7, monitoring what is going on, applying birdsong/aircraft noise whenever anything of the slightest interest is being talked about!

Endemol is in a bad financial position and C5 is a small channel, so luxuries like LF presumably had to be dispensed with.

[Stu]

Stupid thread is stupid.

[arista]

Interesting but not altogether surprising we've lost LF if this is the case.

I've always assumed LF must add quite a bit to the costs. Someone's got to be there 24/7, monitoring what is going on, applying birdsong/aircraft noise whenever anything of the slightest interest is being talked about!

Endemol is in a bad financial position and C5 is a small channel, so luxuries like LF presumably had to be dispensed with.


Yes Once Desmond set the Strict Money budget on this.


But he could still do overnight and afternoon for tasks
in my view.

[Shasown]

I Dont love channel 5, i love big brother.

And i cant, because i signed up on Digital Spy last week with the exact same username on here, and they rejected me. i wasnt viable to use the site.

And i didnt watch that before.
It was a JOINT decision.

Jeff thinks the show has moved foward, and because the live feed wasnt in demond, he thought the show would survive without it. he was wrong.

So why whine about posts over on Digistal Spy on this forum?

What do you mean "I wasnt viable"?" and "It was a JOINT decision".

Your posts like your logic and thinking arent very clear.

[Andrew.]

So why whine about posts over on Digistal Spy on this forum?

What do you mean "I wasnt viable"?" and "It was a JOINT decision".

Your posts like your logic and thinking arent very clear.

wow, your being abit pissy towards me? just cause you dont agree with what i say.

[Shasown]

wow, your being abit pissy towards me? just cause you dont agree with what i say.

Not at all pissy mate. Just dont see the point on you whining on one forum about forum members on a different forum. As for the points I raised reference your postings, they remain valid.

Just pointing out you dont know your arse from your elbow. As others have pointed out in this thread and others live feed is down to channel 5.

If they paid up Endemol would have provided, they didnt pay up so people got laid off. Not the other way round.

[lostalex]

I'm sorry, but you are just wrong. the network has a HUGE influence on the show.

[Beso]

Have you tried ofcom Andrew?

[Shasown]

Have you tried ofcom Andrew?

Or the Samaritans, they might give him a good listening too before hanging up as well.