The Jedward Juggernaut: Can anything stop it?

[CaudleHalbard]

There must have been a lot of money going on Jedward in the past 48 hours. Kerry was odds-on favourite for a while.

Jedward 4-5
Kerry 15-8
Paddy 8-1
Amy 28-1
Lucien 50-1
Darryn 66-1
Bobby 150-1

Bobby fans can get some great odds now! ;)

It would be great to know what are the votes cast so far, to see if they match the odds. Obviously BB staff will know - I am guessing they are prohibited from betting but what is to stop their spouses and other close family?

[chuff me dizzy]

Paddy or Kerry will stop it !!!!!

[Locke.]

Good old Jedward, winning it for Bobby

[Chuck]

Disgusting :bored:

[CaudleHalbard]

Paddy or Kerry will stop it !!!!!

Will you put a bet on it? ;)

[chuff me dizzy]

Will you put a bet on it? ;)

Certainly !!

[Ammi]

I hope not but quite often the favourites don't win so I'm not getting my hopes up too much, Kerry, Amy and Paddy are all in with a real shot. It's possible for it all to change on one nights H.L's thats BB for you!

[chuff me dizzy]

I hope not but quite often the favourites don't win so I'm not getting my hopes up too much, Kerry, Amy and Paddy are all in with a real shot. It's possible for it all to change on one nights H.L's thats BB for you!

And bb didnt show Jedwards warning last night

[arista]

The Greedy Sperm Twins
need to attack someone and get Instant Ejection
from the house.

[Ammi]

And bb didnt show Jedwards warning last night

Yes Chuff, I don't really go on the odds, it's not over till the fat lady sings........

[Vicky.]

Bobby might actually be a good bet actually. Theres quite a few on DS who are voting bobby in a 'protest vote'. Now I dont quite know what they are protesting about, but DS managed to get rachel to win BB9...I dont know how much effect forums have now. I wouldnt imagine they have too much, since the polls are way off like :joker:

Hes already defied the odds by staying twice when hes pretty much a nobody, if he gets a bit of airtime this week, I think he might be a shock top 3 placing :suspect:

[Ammi]

The Greedy Sperm Twins
need to attack someone and get Instant Ejection
from the house.

Oh dear, you crack me up:idc:

[chuff me dizzy]

Bobby might actually be a good bet actually. Theres quite a few on DS who are voting bobby in a 'protest vote'. Now I dont quite know what they are protesting about, but DS managed to get rachel to win BB9...I dont know how much effect forums have now. I wouldnt imagine they have too much, since the polls are way off like :joker:

Hes already defied the odds by staying twice when hes pretty much a nobody, if he gets a bit of airtime this week, I think he might be a shock top 3 placing :suspect:

Star picks a winner every year and prints all positive things about them ,This years pick has been Jedward ,everyday there are 4 or 5 photos of them and odd ones of the others, I think this influences voters

[Ammi]

Bobby might actually be a good bet actually. Theres quite a few on DS who are voting bobby in a 'protest vote'. Now I dont quite know what they are protesting about, but DS managed to get rachel to win BB9...I dont know how much effect forums have now. I wouldnt imagine they have too much, since the polls are way off like :joker:

Hes already defied the odds by staying twice when hes pretty much a nobody, if he gets a bit of airtime this week, I think he might be a shock top 3 placing :suspect:

You're right actually, it would be a mistake to write him off completely, Lucien however, I don't think any editing could save him thank the Lord

[CaudleHalbard]

I wouldn't be surprised if Bobby didn't come bottom. If it is possible to place a bet on him coming (say) in the top 4, it could be worth a punt (but I don't know if you can do that).

[Locke.]

I wouldn't be surprised if Bobby didn't come bottom. If it is possible to place a bet on him coming (say) in the top 4, it could be worth a punt (but I don't know if you can do that).

Markets like that will become available on the day of the final, probably.

[joeysteele]

How does anyone know they got a warning from BB it wasn't shown,nor was the conversation with them in the diary room so they may have just been advised to cool things down a bit.Maybe not even that.
It should have been shown I would agree to that but absolutely no one knows for sure what was said that night in the diary room so it's all pure speculation and likely wrong speculation too.
It would seem odd to me that if they had got a warning that then Lucien should be coming to them and apologising 'to' them, it would surely have been the other way round.

As for the juggernaut, I don't think there is a juggernaut as such, they have been favourites and joint favourites since CBB began with the bookmakers, they are still not that far ahead in the odds and also favourites rarely win a BB series anyway.

Those voting for Jedward are very likely now also to be throwing votes Bobby's way, I am.
I have always maintained anything can happen in BB.I wouldn't object to a Bobby win anyway.

[Zippy]

Juggernaut? Golf buggy more like!

Please stop with the OTT dramatics about how big they are. Only 14 yr olds give a toss.

So theyve limped back as favourites, big deal. Means nothing at this point as Kerry is still close enough to win with days to go.

[Suze]

Bobby might actually be a good bet actually. Theres quite a few on DS who are voting bobby in a 'protest vote'. Now I dont quite know what they are protesting about, but DS managed to get rachel to win BB9...I dont know how much effect forums have now. I wouldnt imagine they have too much, since the polls are way off like :joker:

Hes already defied the odds by staying twice when hes pretty much a nobody, if he gets a bit of airtime this week, I think he might be a shock top 3 placing :suspect:


Some DS forum members did a Jason protest vote against Nadia being BB's expected winner BB5, and Jason made runner up. Whether he was more popular than given credit for or if the protest vote actually worked, no idea though.

[Livia]

It's not so much a juggernaut as a Special Bus.

[Vicky.]

It would seem odd to me that if they had got a warning that then Lucien should be coming to them and apologising 'to' them, it would surely have been the other way round.

I dont see it like this at all. Its not sure IMO.

Seems to me that Lucien apologized because the twins(or one of them) took a huff and they were both blanking him because of it. Not because he did anything wrong.

Its kinda a case of apologize, or have bad feeling between everyone because one person is being off.


That said, how much can we really gather from a 10 second clip :bored:

[Vicky.]

Some DS forum members did a Jason protest vote against Nadia being BB's expected winner BB5, and Jason made runner up. Whether he was more popular than given credit for or if the protest vote actually worked, no idea though.

Interesting :suspect:

[chuff me dizzy]

It's not so much a juggernaut as a Special Bus.

With tongue marks on the windows?

[CaudleHalbard]

It would seem odd to me that if they had got a warning that then Lucien should be coming to them and apologising 'to' them, it would surely have been the other way round.



It certainly looks more as if it was Lucien who was out of order (in some way - we don't know what) - otherwise why on earth would he apologise?

As we don't have LF, we don't see how Jedward spend about 15 hours of the day (outside sleeping time). OMG, maybe they behave like normal people - shock, horror! :D

Tara has not been slow to criticise since she was evicted; I feel sure if the Jeds were unbearable to live with, she would not hesitate to say so.

Anyway................. one of the points I am making here is: I assume some BB staff have access to figures of votes cast so far. Surely this info can be used for betting purposes?

[joeysteele]

I dont see it like this at all. Its not sure IMO.

Seems to me that Lucien apologized because the twins(or one of them) took a huff and they were both blanking him because of it. Not because he did anything wrong.

Its kinda a case of apologize, or have bad feeling between everyone because one person is being off.

I didn't say it was that way for sure, I gave my speculation which may or may not be right orwrong but from my slightly more positive angle to the twins rather than from those who always see the negative angle as to the twins.

No one can say for sure what it was about, we saw a snip of it, not the whole event,I don't though see the point in apologising for something not done wrongly. I wouldn't.

Can you for instance say for sure since no one has seen the whole incident that Lucien also may not have been called to the diary room after them and 'may' I stress 'may' have been told to apologise to them.

[Ammi]

With tongue marks on the windows?

Hahaha are you referring to the brown tongues of Lucien and Amy that were removed from Darryns a**e?

[Suze]

It certainly looks more as if it was Lucien who was out of order (in some way - we don't know what) - otherwise why on earth would he apologise?

As we don't have LF, we don't see how Jedward spend about 15 hours of the day (outside sleeping time). OMG, maybe they behave like normal people - shock, horror! :D

Tara has not been slow to criticise since she was evicted; I feel sure if the Jeds were unbearable to live with, she would not hesitate to say so.

Anyway................. one of the points I am making here is: I assume some BB staff have access to figures of votes cast so far. Surely this info can be used for betting purposes?

(BIB)That actually would make more sense of why the Jeds were not too happy, maybe wrongly with Lucien though rather than directed more at BB, if it was only them pulled up on it?

[CaudleHalbard]

Lucien also may not have been called to the diary room after them and 'may' I stress 'may' have been told to apologise to them.

That is certainly a possibility.......... but it's not one the anti-Jeds can bear to think about! ;)

[alc09]

Luckily, the fact that the thick micks have had to resort to going on Big Brother suggests that their short career is coming to an end.

[joeysteele]

That is certainly a possibility.......... but it's not one the anti-Jeds can bear to think about! ;)

Oh I know that, they jump on them for breathing almost.

[chuff me dizzy]

Luckily, the fact that the thick micks have had to resort to going on Big Brother suggests that their short career is coming to an end.

They certainly have been ill advised to do the show, they have made themselves look like tw@s

[Zippy]

Luckily, the fact that the thick micks have had to resort to going on Big Brother suggests that their short career is coming to an end.

well their album debuted with just over 3000 2 weeks ago and now I can't see it in the top 100!

seems the Jedward juggernaut has crashed

[Suze]

Luckily, the fact that the thick micks have had to resort to going on Big Brother suggests that their short career is coming to an end.

We'll see ;) I doubt it suggests anything of the sort :D And they are far from in your words 'thick micks'. Though your post does suggest you tend to believe anyone who goes on such shows means their careers are in shatters, doesn't bode well then for the rest of the housemates does it :D

[Vicky.]

Why the **** am I being written off as an 'anti-jed' simply because I view an event differently to those who worship them for every little movement?

And yes, I HAVE apologized to someone in the past just to keep the peace, because they were too damn stubborn to accept that they were wrong and I knew it would carry on for ages if nothing was done.

I give in with this, its honestly pathetic. If you all read my recent posts, you will know that I actually LIKE the boys at the minute. But the way anything even slightly negative about them has to be someone just unjustly hating them is just ****ing ridiculous. I'm done.

[CaudleHalbard]

well their album debuted with just over 3000 2 weeks ago and now I can't see it in the top 100!

seems the Jedward juggernaut has crashed

Lol! The records are just to keep them happy in the belief they are rock stars! :D

They have made their millions in other ways, as has been discussed to death on here.

[Livia]

Jedward have ruined this series for me. Not just them.... but they've contributed heavily to the fact I'm not watching it now. This is the first BB I've not been bothered about missing and I resent it. Although BB was never the most cerebral programme, Jedward (and others) have reduced it to the intellectual standard of In The Night Garden. Having said that, Iggle Piggle acts more mature than Jedward, I've never seen Iggle Piggle watch himself in the mirror while he dances in his pants and instead of a really weird and contrived pseudo-American accent, he chooses to say nothing. I wish Jedward would follow suit.

[Livia]

Lol! The records are just to keep them happy in the belief they are rock stars! :D

They have made their millions in other ways, as has been discussed to death on here.

I think you'll find it just you Jedward fans that have any interest at all in how much money they've made, and the figure goes up all the time. I see it's "millions" now. By the end of the show they're going to be billionaires, aren't they.

[alc09]

well their album debuted with just over 3000 2 weeks ago and now I can't see it in the top 100!

seems the Jedward juggernaut has crashed
:joker:

Wasn't aware of that, oh dear. Was always going to happen.

We'll see ;) I doubt it suggests anything of the sort :D And they are far from in your words 'thick micks'. Though your post does suggest you tend to believe anyone who goes on such shows means their careers are in shatters, doesn't bode well then for the rest of the housemates does it :D
Their actions in the house prove that they are I'm afraid.

Ask yourself this question - would anyone credible even consider going on BB? Look at the HMs - damaged goods.

[Zippy]

they've certainly set the tone for the show. The theme seems to be based around Jedward annoying the other HMs by acting like obnoxious, irritating toddlers.

Which would make a great show for Cbeebies but some of us need a little bit more, y'know?

[joeysteele]

I think you'll find it just you Jedward fans that have any interest at all in how much money they've made, and the figure goes up all the time. I see it's "millions" now. By the end of the show they're going to be billionaires, aren't they.

No,that's not the case. We quote the same and its been widely reported that after CBB they will have 6 milion 'between' them not 'each'.
I certainly have never altered my figures I put in posts as to their earnings but that is what has been reported they will have earned.

I personally always add that it's 'reported' that is what they've earned not that I am saying that 'is' what they've earned but one thing is sure they are getting 1 million between them just for this 3 week stint in CBB alone.

[Zippy]

widely reported? widely REPEATED more like.

trash tabloids all repeat the same false info.

[joeysteele]

widely reported? widely REPEATED more like.

trash tabloids all repeat the same false info.

Well you are more obsessed with them and all they do than even Jedward fans but at least we have figures that are 'reported'. You make a great play of people proving their statistics etc, where is your proof via any means that they haven't earned bigtime.

[Livia]

No,that's not the case. We quote the same and its been widely reported that after CBB they will have 6 milion 'between' them not 'each'.
I certainly have never altered my figures I put in posts as to their earnings but that is what has been reported they will have earned.

I personally always add that it's 'reported' that is what they've earned not that I am saying that 'is' what they've earned but one thing is sure they are getting 1 million between them just for this 3 week stint in CBB alone.

Thing is, I couldn't give a monkey's how much money they have or haven't made. Couldn't mean less to me. I just don't care... I don't care how much they've got, I don't care what they do and I don't care to watch them on an adult television show.

I remain, however, a massive joeysteele fan.

[Zippy]

Well you are more obsessed with them and all they do than even Jedward fans but at least we have figures that are 'reported'. You make a great play of people proving their statistics etc, where is your proof via any means that they haven't earned bigtime.

well thats a bit of a ridiculous point seeing that my whole point is that you do not know what they earn. You're just throwing around nicely rounded soundbite figures like millions. Tabloids always make ridiculous claims about what celebs earn because it makes a story.

and I thought you had ceased communication with me regards Jedward? as you so officially put it.

The only thing Im obsessed with is correcting the laughable claims of a few hardcore Jedward PR wannabes round here.

[joeysteele]

Thing is, I couldn't give a monkey's how much money they have or haven't made. Couldn't mean less to me. I just don't care... I don't care how much they've got, I don't care what they do and I don't care to watch them on an adult television show.

I remain, however, a massive joeysteele fan.

:joker: I wasn't moaning at you, I have in posts said they are making millions and so are set for life so have made a good living for themselves from showbusiness.
I just was clarifying that I always say reported earnings not my own figures.

I know another thing for sure and that is I am also a Livia fan.Definately.

[Ammi]

Thing is, I couldn't give a monkey's how much money they have or haven't made. Couldn't mean less to me. I just don't care... I don't care how much they've got, I don't care what they do and I don't care to watch them on an adult television show.

I remain, however, a massive joeysteele fan.

..........but if he's ever worth £6million I won't speak to him unless he gives me some.......:hmph:

[chuff me dizzy]

Jedward have ruined this series for me. Not just them.... but they've contributed heavily to the fact I'm not watching it now. This is the first BB I've not been bothered about missing and I resent it. Although BB was never the most cerebral programme, Jedward (and others) have reduced it to the intellectual standard of In The Night Garden. Having said that, Iggle Piggle acts more mature than Jedward, I've never seen Iggle Piggle watch himself in the mirror while he dances in his pants and instead of a really weird and contrived pseudo-American accent, he chooses to say nothing. I wish Jedward would follow suit.

I can only watch on v+ where i can fast forward everything Jedward related

[joeysteele]

..........but if he's ever worth £6million I won't speak to him unless he gives me some.......:hmph:

:joker::joker: Great comment.

[joeysteele]

well thats a bit of a ridiculous point seeing that my whole point is that you do not know what they earn. You're just throwing around nicely rounded soundbite figures like millions. Tabloids always make ridiculous claims about what celebs earn because it makes a story.

and I thought you had ceased communication with me regards Jedward? as you so officially put it.

The only thing Im obsessed with is correcting the laughable claims of a few hardcore Jedward PR wannabes round here.

Well everyone who doesn't like who or what you like is ridiculous aren't they,That's your answer to everything.

However you cannot have it both ways Zippy, you cannot tell people to say sources or where has that come from that may back up their comments and then when they have such sources.then go on as if you are still the 'always' right one as to what's said but with not one single piece of info or fact, or for that matter, even reported fact to back a single thing you are saying.

Fair debate is one thing but always needing to be in the right even when you have nothing to support your statement is far from that.Also we haven';t to take you literally but you can others.
I made a comment on here as to their earnings being widely reported,'you' then made a reference to that comment by saying widely reported widely repeated more like.

I responded to you responding to me Zippy, don't take people so 'literally',that was on another thread anyway.
Our paths are bound to cross,you cannot avoid commenting on jedward on every thread there is about them except one.

[Pyramid*]

well thats a bit of a ridiculous point seeing that my whole point is that you do not know what they earn. You're just throwing around nicely rounded soundbite figures like millions. Tabloids always make ridiculous claims about what celebs earn because it makes a story.

and I thought you had ceased communication with me regards Jedward? as you so officially put it.

The only thing Im obsessed with is correcting the laughable claims of a few hardcore Jedward PR wannabes round here.

that's a pretty insulting comment there Zippy..... fans will naturally defend Jedward - and for you to throw around such patronising platitudes such as this - shows that the Jedward machine is getting to you.


I understand the rules permit members to slag off the housemates: not their fans.

I can't stand the pair of them: but the truth of the matter is: the vast majority of posts on this Forum derive from their antics: whether agreeable to them or not, and in that respect: they are in turn: providing you with ample opportunity to entertain yourself on here, at Jedward's expense. It should not be at the expense of Jedward fans.

[Zippy]

that's a pretty insulting comment there Zippy..... fans will naturally defend Jedward - and for you to throw around such patronising platitudes such as this - shows that the Jedward machine is getting to you.


who cares what you think? The mods don't need you to do their jobs, thanks. Especially when you have a sly agenda.

I said a FEW Jedward fans. Im specifically referring to certain members who continually post about their finances as if it somehow justifies everything.

Concentrate on your own behaviour round here. I'm not the one just coming off a weeks ban am I?

[Pyramid*]

who cares what you think? The mods don't need you to do their jobs, thanks. Especially when you have a sly agenda.

I said a FEW Jedward fans. Im specifically referring to certain members who continually post about their finances as if it somehow justifies everything.

Concentrate on your own behaviour round here. I'm not the one just coming off a weeks ban am I?

Neither am I. It ended over 2 weeks ago. I simply haven't posted ;)

[CaudleHalbard]

Surely the references to finances are more an attempt to establish the underlying reasons for the OTT destestation, which goes way beyond merely not liking, that some seem to have for Jeward, rather than any sort of justification?

That is to say either envy and/or anger that they have somehow gained something (and a lot!) for nothing... in terms of singing talent or whatever.

[Zippy]

Neither am I. It ended over 2 weeks ago. I simply haven't posted ;)

sulking no doubt.

[Pyramid*]

Surely the references to finances are more an attempt to establish the underlying reasons for the OTT destestation, which goes way beyond merely not liking, that some seem to have for Jeward, rather than any sort of justification?

That is to say either envy and/or anger that they have somehow gained something (and a lot!) for nothing... in terms of singing talent or whatever.

Yes, it could well be. In my case - I do think along those lines as far as Jedward are concerned, lack of comprehension as far as what they have to offer as far as singing talent is concerned etc, when there are so many out there I view as far better.... it doesn't make me right, all it is, is how I see it.

sulking no doubt.

:bored:

[MTVN]

I suggest keeping to the topic of the thread, and yes Zippy try and refrain from insulting the fans of housemates

[fruit_cake]

There doesn't see to be enough competition in the house, Jedwood might be a juggernaut but seems to me a bit more plodding through a country lane, than at full speed on a motorway tbh

[Pyramid*]

There doesn't see to be enough competition in the house, Jedwood might be a juggernaut but seems to me a bit more plodding through a country lane, than at full speed on a motorway tbh

I sort of agree with you, there hasn't been enough to keep them occupied - or rather, should I say: enough that we see of anyway. I do think Jedward have been pushed by the production team - something happened the other night and that's halted now - so the BB crew have had to come up with things that involve all the housemates rather than them focussing on the twins, as they have done in great part up till the last night or so.

The producers are managing to buggar it up .... once again.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Is there any way we can find out how many people vote?

Back in the day Davina used to tell us.

[Zippy]

Is there any way we can find out how many people vote?

Back in the day Davina used to tell us.

they became too embarrassed to say

now the figures are probably abysmal

[Pyramid*]

Is there any way we can find out how many people vote?

Back in the day Davina used to tell us.


Given that they have to be strictly monitored, I'd say yes, the figures will be available somewhere on t'internet I am sure. Where ..... now that's a whole different matter!

Might be worthwhile having a look on DS....they're usually always that kind of detailed info being put up as voters are interested (for obvious reasons!)

[CaudleHalbard]

Looks like the only person who has any chance of stopping the juggernaut is Kerry - well, in the punters' view anyway!

Jedward 4-6
Kerry 9-4
Paddy 17-2
Amy 28-1
Lucien 55-1
Darryn 80-1
Bobby 150-1

[InOne]

Jedward have ruined this series for me. Not just them.... but they've contributed heavily to the fact I'm not watching it now. This is the first BB I've not been bothered about missing and I resent it. Although BB was never the most cerebral programme, Jedward (and others) have reduced it to the intellectual standard of In The Night Garden. Having said that, Iggle Piggle acts more mature than Jedward, I've never seen Iggle Piggle watch himself in the mirror while he dances in his pants and instead of a really weird and contrived pseudo-American accent, he chooses to say nothing. I wish Jedward would follow suit.

Totally agree. I've just figured let the baby have it's bottle and stopped caring. Hopefully the normal one will be a bit better.

[cub]

I hope Jedward win. They are the only entertainers.

Desperate clingy, lazy and jealous reality show-*****s, Faux romances, wannabes and moaning old men do not entertain me one bit.

[joeysteele]

I don't accept there is a juggernaut I still feel any of them could win this, very often the favourites never win BB series and it can be the least expected one that wins it too.

[Suze]

There must be a lot of money of a sudden going on Jedward at the moment though. Makes me wonder if some bets are tied to maybe inside knowledge for some betting, on knowing how the voting is going?

[joeysteele]

There must be a lot of money of a sudden going on Jedward at the moment though. Makes me wonder if some bets are tied to maybe inside knowledge for some betting, on knowing how the voting is going?

There seems to be a lot of money going on Jedward,true, but bookmakers love favourites to lose too.they wouldn't steer people off backing a favourite they maybe believed could lose.
They'd just rake in the funds.

[CaudleHalbard]

There must be a lot of money of a sudden going on Jedward at the moment though. Makes me wonder if some bets are tied to maybe inside knowledge for some betting, on knowing how the voting is going?

Exactly what I've been wondering. There must be a whole load of people who know what the voting figures are to date.

Whilst it wouldn't surprise me if the people who have access to the info have contracts barring them for betting, how on earth do you stop the info being passed on to relatives etc?

[Kate!]

The Greedy Sperm Twins
need to attack someone and get Instant Ejection
from the house.

this !!

and to use your word.....Spiffing (love that word!)

[CaudleHalbard]

Awww.......... don't you want to see jedward doing victory cartwheels out of the BB house on Thurday night? :dance::dance:

Lol! :joker:

[joeysteele]

Awww.......... don't you want to see jedward doing victory cartwheels out of the BB house on Thurday night? :dance::dance:

Lol! :joker:

I hope to see that and I do expect to see cartwheels but despite my hopes,I am far from sure it will be as winners.

I've said it before and do so again CBB and BB series of the past have taught me one thing,to expect the unexpected.

[CaudleHalbard]

From Jedward's point of view, the danger is their fans will be complacent and assume a win is inevitable.

Not all of their fans have the wherewithal to vote loads of times.

That could mean a surprise result - except I don't think it would be too much of a surprise if Kerry won!

[Suze]

I hope to see that and I do expect to see cartwheels but despite my hopes,I am far from sure it will be as winners.

I've said it before and do so again CBB and BB series of the past have taught me one thing,to expect the unexpected.

I can't wait for their interview, you just know it will be the best one of the night :D

[joeysteele]

I can't wait for their interview, you just know it will be the best one of the night :D

Me too, it will be, definately.

[Zippy]

I can't wait for their interview, you just know it will be the best one of the night :D

for people with Jedward in their sig maybe

the rest of us will give it a miss given that it will have the insight and intellect of a toddlers tantrum

Brian + Jedward = juvenille mediocrity hell

[Suze]

for people with Jedward in their sig maybe

the rest of us will give it a miss given that it will have the insight and intellect of a toddlers tantrum

Brian + Jedward = juvenille mediocrity hell

Give it a chance, you might enjoy the interview :) ;)

[CaudleHalbard]

Got to be better than addle-brain Tara's interview! :joker:

[InOne]

It's annoying how they do the most stupid things to get camera time and they still get it. Like that stupid clicking thing in the bathroom :bored:

[CaudleHalbard]

It's annoying how they do the most stupid things to get camera time and they still get it. Like that stupid clicking thing in the bathroom

I rather suspect they may do that sort of thing even when there are no cameras around. It is not for nothing they are said to inhabit Planet Jedward.. right from their XF days.

They are definitely a very 'unusual' pair - mentally speaking. Pity the BB psychologists have been made redundant! :D

[InOne]

I rather suspect they may do that sort of thing even when there are no cameras around. It is not for nothing they are said to inhabit Planet Jedward.. right from their XF days.

They are definitely a very 'unusual' pair - mentally speaking. Pity the BB psychologists have been made redundant! :D

Well they do have Nikki Grahame on the job :joker:

[CaudleHalbard]

Well they do have Nikki Grahame on the job

I'll bet she's seen a psychologist or two in her time! :D

Don't want to depress the anti-Jed contingent too much but the latest odds seem to put the twins as a racing certainty:

Jedward 8-13
Kerry 11-4
Paddy 8-1

I do feel someone is using inside info.

[mymidas]

I'll bet she's seen a psychologist or two in her time! :D

Don't want to depress the anti-Jed contingent too much but the latest odds seem to put the twins as a racing certainty:

Jedward 8-13
Kerry 11-4
Paddy 8-1

I do feel someone is using inside info.

I wouldnt get too excited as the vast majority of Jedward fans wont be voting as they are not in the UK. There was one comment on twitter I will link if I can find it where somebody talk about the thousands of votes for the republic and Germany. They cannot vote the lines are uk only effectively firewalled.

[CaudleHalbard]

I wouldnt get too excited as the vast majority of Jedward fans wont be voting as they are not in the UK. There was one comment on twitter I will link if I can find it where somebody talk about the thousands of votes for the republic and Germany. They cannot vote the lines are uk only effectively firewalled.

I agree it will be closer than the odds suggest.

[Sophiee]

I think they're impossible to defeat now!

[Livia]

Jedward winning would just about put the tin lid on this pathetic parody of a CBB. I mean really... Jedward. They're window-licking good.

[CaudleHalbard]

Jedward winning would just about put the tin lid on this pathetic parody of a CBB. I mean really... Jedward. They're window-licking good.

They're more popular and much richer than you'll ever be!

Must've got something right........... just maybe? :D

[joeysteele]

I find it amazing that even in the run up to the final,when the twins and no one else really in the house is doing anything wrong and most people don't mind who wins that some still jump in and would begrudge two 19 year olds a win and say that them winning would be a bad thing,
Unbelievable.

I don't want Kerry to win or Lucien but if they did,I would accept them as the winner and the publics choice. Still I guess to the last day some are going to stick the knife in Jedward as much as they can and they haven't really done a thing wrong.

I don't see thread after thread being made as to Bobby and Lucien slinging sweets at each other, leaving them all over the floor for others to clean up.Had Jedward done that the number screaming about them doing it would be massive.

Selective double standards.

[Suze]

Totally agree Joey. Imagine if they do win, and the amount of Jedward dislike threads that will probably spring up :o

[Livia]

They're more popular and much richer than you'll ever be!

Must've got something right........... just maybe? :D

You don't know anything about me, my popularity or my portfolio. And frankly, there isn't enough money in Switzerland to induce me to look like a tw*t for cash.

[Zippy]

Livia is right..

this has been a dire, juvenille, mockery of CBB. So it's only fitting that it finishes with a dire, juvenille pair of winners.

then we can all just forget about it like a bad dream.

[InOne]

They're more popular and much richer than you'll ever be!
Must've got something right........... just maybe? :D

Jesus, going on about money again :bored:

Not everyone is money minded, if all you can defend them with is how much they're worth then that says it all about them doesn't it.

[Zippy]

Rusty Lee is far richer and more famous than me too

And, trust me, Im ten times more envious of her than those two basket weavers.

[CaudleHalbard]

Ok here is my objective assessment of Jedward is:

(1) They are cute young guys, with a physical fan base of a couple of thousand and a YouTube subscribership of (I think) about 400,000.

(2) They've banked about £5-6 million, between them, and could afford to retire to Jedward Land if they wanted and never do another day's work in their lives. But that is not their way - they want to continue to entertain their fans and stay determined and focused on their career.

(3) They don't drink, smoke, do drugs, get into sexual shenanigans. Not overly bright perhaps, and a bit too dependent on each other but basically good-hearted.

(4) In the context of CBB, their HMs don't have a bad word to say about them.

So............what is there not to like?

I come back to what what I said a few days ago. "Hatred" of Jedward is based primarily on JEALOUSY.

So........... stop hating and start appreciating. Here's a nice pic for the haters! ;)

http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab93/Netsite/jedward.jpg

[joeysteele]

Totally agree Joey. Imagine if they do win, and the amount of Jedward dislike threads that will probably spring up :o

Very good satement Suze.I guess there will be loads, but also if they don't win there will be still be loads deriding them and winding up Jedward fans on here as to 'they couldn't even win CBB'.

As for the making of threads it seems it's in the main near all as to CBB that even the anti-Jeds can make,threads on Jedward.
They,some at any rate, are more obsessed with them than Jedward fans are who are also members on here.

[Livia]

Ok here is my objective assessment of Jedward is:

(1) They are cute young guys, with a physical fan base of a couple of thousand and a YouTube subscribership of (I think) about 400,000.

(2) They've banked about £5-6 million, between them, and could afford to retire to Jedward Land if they wanted and never do another day's work in their lives. But that is not their way - they want to continue to entertain their fans and stay determined and focused on their career.

(3) They don't drink, smoke, do drugs, get into sexual shenanigans. Not overly bright perhaps, and a bit too dependent on each other but basically good-hearted.

(4) In the context of CBB, their HMs don't have a bad word to say about them.

So............what is there not to like?

I come back to what what I said a few days ago. "Hatred" of Jedward is based primarily on JEALOUSY.

So........... stop hating and start appreciating. Here's a nice pic for the haters! ;)

http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab93/Netsite/jedward.jpg

That is not an objective assessment.

[Zippy]

He's utterly obsessed with them.

[CaudleHalbard]

As for the making of threads it seems it's in the main near all as to CBB that even the anti-Jeds can make,threads on Jedward.
They,some at any rate, are more obsessed with them than Jedward fans are who are also members on here.

Exactly so. One does get the slight feeling there may even be strange, but unwanted, attraction between some of the anti-Jeds and the twins.

Just sayin' ! ;)

[joeysteele]

Exactly so. One does get the slight feeling there may even be strange, but unwanted, attraction between some of the anti-Jeds and the twins.

Just sayin' ! ;)

I think you could maybe, possibly,be on to something there.

[Zippy]

we're not the ones posting creepy pictures of them in their underwear. Ew

[Suze]

Exactly so. One does get the slight feeling there may even be strange, but unwanted, attraction between some of the anti-Jeds and the twins.

Just sayin' ! ;)

As in 'Methinks some protesteth too much' :D You could well be right :D

[Livia]

He's utterly obsessed with them.

Utterly. Never seen so much adoration lavished on people who deserve it so little.

[Joelle.]

Sue Katona could stop anything.

[InOne]

Utterly. Never seen so much adoration lavished on people who deserve it so little.

Sign of the times. [/arista]

[keithafc]

Livia is right..

this has been a dire, juvenille, mockery of CBB. So it's only fitting that it finishes with a dire, juvenille pair of winners.

then we can all just forget about it like a bad dream.
You still watching it?

[Zippy]

You still watching it?

nope

I saw enough and have heard enough since to draw that conclusion. MY conclusion.

[keithafc]

nope

I saw enough and have heard enough since to draw that conclusion. MY conclusion.
Its got better since you switched off.

[CaudleHalbard]

FFS, lighten up all you Jed-haters! :D

I wouldn't be giving Jedward a fraction as much attention, if you lot didn't keep posting your hate mail which seems to be based on.... pretty much nothing!

If you said you don't like their act, or they are vocally talentless or there was something a bit more specific, I could understand it and possibly agree with some of it. But it seems to be just largely puerile name-calling which is, on the face of it, about as immature as Jedward are accused of being.

Which is what has led me to the conclusions I have stated.

OK I may be way off beam about the jealousy thing, but if it is just mindless, blind hatred that's actually even worse. You guys' psyches might make an interesting study.......... where's Nikki Grahame when you need her? :joker:

[joeysteele]

FFS, lighten up all you Jed-haters! :D

I wouldn't be giving Jedward a fraction as much attention, if you lot didn't keep posting your hate mail which seems to be based on.... pretty much nothing!

If you said you don't like their act, or they are vocally talentless or there was something a bit more specific, I could understand it and possibly agree with some of it. But it seems to be just largely puerile name-calling which is, on the face of it, about as immature as Jedward are accused of being.

Which is what has led me to the conclusions I have stated.

OK I may be way off beam about the jealousy thing, but if it is just mindless, blind hatred that's actually even worse. You guys' psyches might make an interesting study.......... where's Nikki Grahame when you need her? :joker:


I have to agree with you not just because I am a great fan of Jedward but I would be doing so even if you weren't talking about them specifically.
Really sorry but this will be a fairly long post.

There are people in showbusiness I cannot stand at all, I would make a point as to that on an open thread about them,never on a fan club thread for them though.
After making the point once, I would then avoid going into threads on them and making the same insults, criticisms of them which I would know and expect would wind up the people who like them on here.

Naturally with Jedward,their fans, (who are also members on here getting ridiculed and insulted personally themselves by others in much the same way as the anti-Jeds ridicule Jedward too), are then going to respond to that and also make the good points they see as to the twins and their act back,they will also naturally react against the personal insulting and ridicule of themselves as fans of Jedward too.

Some of these ant-Jeds go onto every thread there is as to Jedward, even making threads themselves just to tear them apart and ridicule those who like them too,they even came onto the fan club thread,still spouting their venom at them there'
Thankfully on the fan club thread,they eventually got told to stop and posts got deleted.Others came on with more conciliatory comments so the post would stay in place but on other threads were back to their usual acidic content.

I now feel its impossible to deal with the insulting and ridicule that even we get as members on here just for being great fans of them.
I have been termed in a group as a mindless tween just for being a fan of Jedward,mindless is a pretty awful word to use about anyone who hasn't done anything wrong,also because it is considered that a great many of Jedwards fans are children and young teens then it's disgraceful that people would describe children as mindless just for liking Jedward.

It will go on and on, whenever they are in anything on TV though,I have felt more like I was on a battlefield these last 2 weeks but the sad thing is because I have met them and seen all the really good points,people discard that as if I talk rubbish as to them and only their criticisms of them 'personally' not just 'professionally' are the right ones.

As fans we get it, some people on here hate them,by the same token they should respect that other members on here(there's at least 35 names signed in to their fan club thread),do really like them and I thought,maybe I am wrong, that members should not insult or ridicule or humiliate other members on here just for who or what they like or dislike. As I say maybe I've got that bit wrong.

[chuff me dizzy]

Once again last night the highlights show dominated by Jedward , 2 minutes of Edward stroking himself while dressed as a woman was ample ,did we really need about half an hour of it? anyone else think he was TOO comfortable dressed like that ?

[joeysteele]

I rest my case, it was fun, ever seen guys on a stag night or students or for that matter even fancy dress parties.

[CaudleHalbard]

Best thing to do is ignore the haters. Leave them to wallow in their own bitter little worlds, whilst the rest of us have fun! Life is too short to hate. :)

Anyway, back on topic.......... latest odds. I think the juggernaut may be gaining momentum. Even Kerry is going to struggle to beat the boys.

Jedward 8-15
Kerry 11-4
Paddy 7-1
Amy 33-1
Lucien 66-1
Darryn 110-1
Bobby 250-1

I think Amy is expecting to do a bit better than 4th place........... hunnayy! ;)

[joeysteele]

Best thing to do is ignore the haters. Leave them to wallow in their own bitter little worlds, whilst the rest of us have fun! Life is too short to hate. :)

Anyway, back on topic.......... latest odds. I think the juggernaut may be gaining momentum. Even Kerry is going to struggle to beat the boys.

Jedward 8-15
Kerry 11-4
Paddy 7-1
Amy 33-1
Lucien 66-1
Darryn 110-1
Bobby 250-1

I think Amy is expecting to do a bit better than 4th place........... hunnayy! ;)

Interesting odds at this stage, I admit, just hope they may be near being right.

[CaudleHalbard]

The bookies usually get it right for evictions - but often wrong for the winner.

But as everything is a Vote to Save now, perhaps to confusion that normally reigns when there's a switch from Vote to Evict, for the final, will not apply this time.

Will be interesting to see. But it's really a two-horse race now, methinks. I doubt Paddy is really a runner, but I'm sure he'll be pleased with 3rd. :)

[Patricia4]

I wanted Paddy up there fighting it out with the twins but it does'nt look good.
If he does come third he's done well.

[Pyramid*]

FFS, lighten up all you Jed-haters! :D

I wouldn't be giving Jedward a fraction as much attention, if you lot didn't keep posting your hate mail which seems to be based on.... pretty much nothing!

If you said you don't like their act, or they are vocally talentless or there was something a bit more specific, I could understand it and possibly agree with some of it. But it seems to be just largely puerile name-calling which is, on the face of it, about as immature as Jedward are accused of being.

Which is what has led me to the conclusions I have stated.

OK I may be way off beam about the jealousy thing, but if it is just mindless, blind hatred that's actually even worse. You guys' psyches might make an interesting study.......... where's Nikki Grahame when you need her? :joker:

Best thing to do is ignore the haters. Leave them to wallow in their own bitter little worlds, whilst the rest of us have fun! Life is too short to hate. :)

! ;)


Awwww c'moooooaaaannnnn....... where's the fun in that!! We're giving the Jedites great reason to offer ongoing profusive reasons for why we should love them.

You never know, all that hard work might pay off and someone might even be converted! :D

As far as the winning: I would be really surprised if they do. I do think the switch in Vote To Save might throw a spanner in the works though. As you say: bookies have been pretty much on the nose as far as evictions in the past have been concerned, but often, way out as far as the actual winner.

We'll all soon find out soon enough!

[joeysteele]

I wanted Paddy up there fighting it out with the twins but it does'nt look good.
If he does come third he's done well.

The great thing about Paddy is he would be feel honoured to not come last, he has been really funny these last few nights on the highlights.I never expected him to even try the boyband task but he was hilarious in it.

I wouldn't like to anger him but I think he's a really nice person.

[Pyramid*]

The great thing about Paddy is he would be feel honoured to not come last, he has been really funny these last few nights on the highlights.I never expected him to even try the boyband task but he was hilarious in it.

I wouldn't like to anger him but I think he's a really nice person.

This is the weird thing re Paddy though: I could not stand the man when I've seen him on the Gypsy doc and thereafter in the media: and I didn't expect that to change with his appearance on BB.

Yet for some reason: we are seeing a completely different side to the man -completely. The thing that struck me very early on was; the man who professes never to do any housework etc, proclaiming that's womans work, not for men to do bla bla blah..... right from the start, was the very man who was seen washing piles upon piles of dishes, cleaning up etc.

Now if that didn't come natural to him, or he wasn't comfy doing it: I don't think he's the type that would do it just for the cameras. ;)

Opinions can change....mine certainly did (actually, with him and Darryn too!)

[joeysteele]

This is the weird thing re Paddy though: I could not stand the man when I've seen him on the Gypsy doc and thereafter in the media: and I didn't expect that to change with his appearance on BB.

Yet for some reason: we are seeing a completely different side to the man -completely. The thing that struck me very early on was; the man who professes never to do any housework etc, proclaiming that's womans work, not for men to do bla bla blah..... right from the start, was the very man who was seen washing piles upon piles of dishes, cleaning up etc.

Now if that didn't come natural to him, or he wasn't comfy doing it: I don't think he's the type that would do it just for the cameras. ;)

Opinions can change....mine certainly did (actually, with him and Darryn too!)

I have to admit, I have warmed to Darryn too,I don't really like his profession but he has been really interesting to watch these last few nights as well.

[MTVN]

I have to agree with you not just because I am a great fan of Jedward but I would be doing so even if you weren't talking about them specifically.
Really sorry but this will be a fairly long post.

There are people in showbusiness I cannot stand at all, I would make a point as to that on an open thread about them,never on a fan club thread for them though.
After making the point once, I would then avoid going into threads on them and making the same insults, criticisms of them which I would know and expect would wind up the people who like them on here.

Naturally with Jedward,their fans, (who are also members on here getting ridiculed and insulted personally themselves by others in much the same way as the anti-Jeds ridicule Jedward too), are then going to respond to that and also make the good points they see as to the twins and their act back,they will also naturally react against the personal insulting and ridicule of themselves as fans of Jedward too.

Some of these ant-Jeds go onto every thread there is as to Jedward, even making threads themselves just to tear them apart and ridicule those who like them too,they even came onto the fan club thread,still spouting their venom at them there'
Thankfully on the fan club thread,they eventually got told to stop and posts got deleted.Others came on with more conciliatory comments so the post would stay in place but on other threads were back to their usual acidic content.

I now feel its impossible to deal with the insulting and ridicule that even we get as members on here just for being great fans of them.
I have been termed in a group as a mindless tween just for being a fan of Jedward,mindless is a pretty awful word to use about anyone who hasn't done anything wrong,also because it is considered that a great many of Jedwards fans are children and young teens then it's disgraceful that people would describe children as mindless just for liking Jedward.

It will go on and on, whenever they are in anything on TV though,I have felt more like I was on a battlefield these last 2 weeks but the sad thing is because I have met them and seen all the really good points,people discard that as if I talk rubbish as to them and only their criticisms of them 'personally' not just 'professionally' are the right ones.

As fans we get it, some people on here hate them,by the same token they should respect that other members on here(there's at least 35 names signed in to their fan club thread),do really like them and I thought,maybe I am wrong, that members should not insult or ridicule or humiliate other members on here just for who or what they like or dislike. As I say maybe I've got that bit wrong.

That's not fair to say they "eventually" get deleted from the fan thread, we delete them as soon as we see them or as soon as they are reported, they are very rarely left for longer than a minute or two. But in any other thread it's fair game to discuss a housemate, be that negatively or positively. There are a lot of people on here that don't like Jedward; that's just life I'm afraid, everyone has their favourites mocked, ridiculed or insulted at points in this show. Last year for instance, Dave was one of my favourite housemates and he was loathed on these boards but so what? It's Big Brother, it's just television, it's absurd to get worked up over it. The hate for Jedward might be more prominent than other housemates but that's because their actions will naturally divide opinion.

I really don't see why you think it is a personal thing; it isn't. People make all kinds of sweeping statements regarding all kinds of housemates, there's nothing special about Jedward which should make them immune from criticism or ridicule.

[joeysteele]

That's not fair to say they "eventually" get deleted from the fan thread, we delete them as soon as we see them or as soon as they are reported, they are very rarely left for longer than a minute or two. But in any other thread it's fair game to discuss a housemate, be that negatively or positively. There are a lot of people on here that don't like Jedward; that's just life I'm afraid, everyone has their favourites mocked, ridiculed or insulted at points in this show. Last year for instance, Dave was one of my favourite housemates and he was loathed on these boards but so what? It's Big Brother, it's just television, it's absurd to get worked up over it. The hate for Jedward might be more prominent than other housemates but that's because their actions will naturally divide opinion.

I really don't see why you think it is a personal thing; it isn't. People make all kinds of sweeping statements regarding all kinds of housemates, there's nothing special about Jedward which should make them immune from criticism or ridicule.


I 100% accept your fair point
that posts get deleted once seen, my point really was that such comments should not be put on a fan club thread anyway in the first place,or maybe I am wrong on that.

As I said in my post maybe I am wrong too in my assumption that members should not be insulted and ridiculed or humiliated because of who they like or dislike.

I don't get the hate for the twins but I get even less the personal attacks on their fans,,to me,maybe I am wrong again, attacking the celebrity,fine,but then making further ridicule and insult to people who like them,that to me is wrong, because in my view,if someone insults Jedward or any celebrity for that matter, then opens that insult up to an across the board derisory,insulting or ridiculing comment as to their fans, many of whom are members here.I would say I and most would take that at least a bit personally.

As It seems I am clearly wrong on that,I will have to accept that.

[Pyramid*]

I really don't see why you think it is a personal thing; it isn't. People make all kinds of sweeping statements regarding all kinds of housemates, there's nothing special about Jedward which should make them immune from criticism or ridicule.


In absolute fairness and to bring a sense of understanding MTVN as to why some appear to be perhaps taking it personally...it may well be down to the fact that, despite you having already requested that members shouldn't be insulting fans of housemates quite some posts back, that type of insulting and personal comment still continues.

Saying another member is utterly obsessed with them (Jedward) - it's certainly not saying anything positive about that member. Housemates are allowed to be criticised, mocked and ridiculed...members aren't.

As long as these type of personal comments continue - of course the fans are going to take it personally - such comments ARE being made to them, about them PERSONALLY.

I suggest keeping to the topic of the thread, and yes Zippy try and refrain from insulting the fans of housemates

He's utterly obsessed with them.

we're not the ones posting creepy pictures of them in their underwear. Ew

[joeysteele]

Whether the juggernaut is successful or not one thing I am glad for and I thank all powers that be that CBB is over tomorrow night becasue I have had enough ridicule and insults to last me a lifetime as to my liking Jedward.

I thought it was wrong to ridicule,insult other members for their likes and dislikes,it is something I never do.
I am more confused than ever as to rules on here now.

Thank you Pyramid by the way. My understanding of the rules was as yours,clearly I am incorrect in that though.

[MTVN]

In absolute fairness and to bring a sense of understanding MTVN as to why some appear to be perhaps taking it personally...it may well be down to the fact that, despite you having already requested that members shouldn't be insulting fans of housemates quite some posts back, that type of insulting and personal comment still continues.

Saying another member is utterly obsessed with them (Jedward) - it's certainly not saying anything positive about that member. Housemates are allowed to be criticised, mocked and ridiculed...members aren't.

As long as these type of personal comments continue - of course the fans are going to take it personally - such comments ARE being made to them, about them PERSONALLY.

Fair point, I wasnt aware of those comments until you just brought them to my attention. Trouble is there is a fine line between insulting a housemate and in doing so perhaps insulting their fans, and also when it is a sweeping statement such as "Jedward attract strange fans" or something of the like it is a bit of a grey area as to whether that constitutes a personal insult or not

We have a number of Jedward fans on here, most of whom don't seem to feel offended because it's just Big Brother and not something to really get personal about. But yes when a user explicitly insults another member that is against the rules, as is posting negative comments in fan threads, and I can only suggest reporting the posts when it does happen otherwise they can fly under the radar

[Pyramid*]

Fair point, I wasnt aware of those comments until you just brought them to my attention. Trouble is there is a fine line between insulting a housemate and in doing so perhaps insulting their fans, and also when it is a sweeping statement such as "Jedward attract strange fans" or something of the like it is a bit of a grey area as to whether that constitutes a personal insult or not

We have a number of Jedward fans on here, most of whom don't seem to feel offended because it's just Big Brother and not something to really get personal about. But yes when a user explicitly insults another member that is against the rules, as is posting negative comments in fan threads, and I can only suggest reporting the posts when it does happen otherwise they can fly under the radar

Comments of the nature which I highlighted here in this thread, are posted with frequency. I report them enough times as we are instructed to do - and receive infractions because when I do, the tibb site jams, it looks as though reports dont go through, you try again not realising that in between the site 'hanging' the alert does actually go through, the system doesn't acknowledge confirm that coz it's still showing as still 'hanging' ... so what happens... you get punished because the tibb server/site is failing, for reporting the very rules breaks that you are advising that should be reported!!! :shrug: You couldn't make it up if you tried :D

Maybe now this has been highlighted, it might put an end to it? Here's hoping! :thumbs:

I really don't like jedward, I'm far from a fan - I think that as much as it may have been a bit boring without them, I also think they've ruined what could have been a better show. I'm happy to banter with the Jedites and have a bit of fun - and I hope, without offending or insulting them.

[chuff me dizzy]

I wanted Paddy up there fighting it out with the twins but it does'nt look good.
If he does come third he's done well.

Paddy has a MASSIVE chance ,dont give up on him ,its not over till the fat lady sings !!

[Pyramid*]

Paddy has a MASSIVE chance ,dont give up on him ,its not over till the fat lady sings !!

Aww FFS, don't tell me they're bringing Carol back into the house..... :bawling::bawling:



:D

[joeysteele]

[QUOTE=Pyramid*;4536417]Aww FFS, don't tell me they're bringing Carol back into the house..... :bawling::bawling:


:joker::joker: Pyramid you are well on form today.:joker:

[Pyramid*]

Aww FFS, don't tell me they're bringing Carol back into the house..... :bawling::bawling:


:joker::joker: Pyramid you are well on form today.:joker:


Thank you kindly. :hugesmile:

It's not all gloom and doom eh! ;)

[Stu]

Best thing to do is ignore the haters.
Congratulations on finally reaching that touchestone of human logic. Some people hate them. They are free to post in as many threads as they want about this as long as it's not the appreciation thread. You won't convert them.

[CaudleHalbard]

Aww FFS, don't tell me they're bringing Carol back into the house.....

She already been on BBOTS (twice I think) - and scantily dressed. :eek:

I highly doubt there's a video clip on the web of it though! :joker:


Congratulations on finally reaching that touchestone of human logic. Some people hate them. They are free to post in as many threads as they want about this as long as it's not the appreciation thread. You won't convert them.

No but if challenging unthinking views at least makes them think, it's an achievement in itself. ;)

[Zippy]

:joker::joker: Pyramid you are well on form today.:joker:

http://i53.tinypic.com/105cqia.jpg

[Pyramid*]

Congratulations on finally reaching that touchestone of human logic. Some people hate them. They are free to post in as many threads as they want about this as long as it's not the appreciation thread. You won't convert them.


Not at the expense of insulting other forum members they're not.

Regarding converting people: you don't know that for certainty.


She already been on BBOTS (twice I think) - and scantily dressed. :eek:

I highly doubt there's a video clip on the web of it though! :joker:

I know... *vomits* I saw it. Sorry..... her.

Im still in recovery from the sheer horror!




No but if challenging unthinking views at least makes them think, it's an achievement in itself. ;)

[Pyramid*]

http://i53.tinypic.com/105cqia.jpg


God, she really needs to get something done with those bags under her eyes!!

[Zippy]

Pyramid you made a serious allegation against a member here yesterday and now you're boohooing about poor Jedward fans getting stick? Again, get some self awareness.

And the only reason I have a pop at certain Jedward fans here is because they keep posting endless nonsense and claims about their success which I have a right to challenge. It's OK for them to have a go at me for hating them but I can't do likewise to them for liking them? Yeah, that's fair. :/

[Stu]

Not at the expense of insulting other forum members they're not.

Regarding converting people: you don't know that for certainty.
Hold on when I let a yawn out.

[joeysteele]

If the claims made by Jedward fans and myself particularly as a Jedward fan are wrong and can be proven to be wrong then it is of course right to correct me/us.

When though I post something as to them which has been reported and I say 'reported',to then dismiss that and say I and others are wrong with not the slightest scrap of any proof its wrong or even any reporting as to it being wrong is simply wrong too.

As to anything I have ever said as to Jedward on here, if anyone can come back and prove any of it's wrong what I have said,then do so but with independent back up.
The problem is those who dismiss what I say as 'reported',have not one thing to back their accusations that what I have said was wrong or believed to be wrong when I posted it.

I am not a liar and not in the habit of of printing anything I know or believe is wrong,the inference that I would not be posting truth as to what has been reported or what I know for sure as to Jedward or anyone or anything else is one of the biggest insults someone can make to another person.
People under any guise who are saying I or other Jedward fans are deliberately not posting truth, should either prove they are not or be made to stop doing so.

People should 'not' have to have their integrity questioned on here by people who cannot back up via any means whatsoever that what they are saying is not correct as to full knowledge or reported knowledge on anything not just about Jedward..

[CaudleHalbard]

Kerry is drifting downwards. Can't help feeling that insider information plays a part in betting odds. But there again they have been wrong about the winner before, so maybe things are more tightly guarded than we imagine?

Jedward 8-15
Kerry 4-1

[Pyramid*]

Pyramid you made a serious allegation against a member here yesterday and now you're boohooing about poor Jedward fans getting stick? Again, get some self awareness.

And the only reason I have a pop at certain Jedward fans here is because they keep posting endless nonsense and claims about their success which I have a right to challenge. It's OK for them to have a go at me for hating them but I can't do likewise to them for liking them? Yeah, that's fair. :/


First: you are ressurecting an issue that was dealt with and clarified by a mod on this thread.

Secondly: you actually joined in at the time#

thirdly: despite everyone else trying to move on... you agin start this inflammatory post up to fan flames.

You should not be having a pop at anyone on else, fans of anyone - have pop at the housemate, but not the fans.

As I say.... this seems to be yet another post you have put up to do nothing more than inflamme a situation that has already been addressed over the past few pages.

Move on.

[chuff me dizzy]

Aww FFS, don't tell me they're bringing Carol back into the house..... :bawling::bawling:



:D

THATS something too much for my stomach to take !! Bad enough having to look and listen to the Backwards without HER !!

[Pyramid*]

Hold on when I let a yawn out.

Remember to breath back in again....you don't want to miss BB when it starts.

[Pyramid*]

THATS something too much for my stomach to take !! Bad enough having to look and listen to the Backwards without HER !!

*Please....take some of these (hands over double action Rennies)*

[chuff me dizzy]

*Please....take some of these (hands over double action Rennies)*

Pass me the full bottle :yuk::mad::eek:

[Zippy]

thirdly: despite everyone else trying to move on... you agin start this inflammatory post up to fan flames.

You should not be having a pop at anyone on else, fans of anyone - have pop at the housemate, but not the fans.

well having read through this thread and saw your usual lame attempts at getting me in trouble I felt the need to point out your hypocrisy yet again.

and forums with competing fans always have words with each other. Thats how they work. When you have the fans spouting misinformation then its impossible not to address them rather than the subject themselves. We are interacting with each other here and like every other part of the forum it can often become a disagreement between members themselves. Loads of members here make jokes about what the typical jedward fan is. My beef is with specific members here who keep posting the same nonsense. If I disagree with it then I have a right to say. If thats interpreted as attacking fans(just because they happen to be fans) then so be it.

[joeysteele]

And the only reason I have a pop at certain Jedward fans here is because they keep posting endless nonsense and claims about their success which I have a right to challenge. It's OK for them to have a go at me for hating them but I can't do likewise to them for liking them? Yeah, that's fair. :/[/QUOTE]

You have inferred I haven't listed what is correct as to information as to Jedward, I don't care who you like or dislike but you have inferred my posts contain wrong information that I state is reported as to them.

I have left you the chance to come back time and time again with independent information to back your claims that I have done that rather than just your word.
If you say I have posted wrong information then you are saying I am lying,you have never retracted your challenge as to what I say but also you have not been able to substantiate your so called facts either by any means.

That is what this Jedward fan objects to, having his integrity questioned by someone who out of sheer hate for a celebrity goes on to bring into question the integrity of their fans and what they say but with no facts or reported facts to back him up.
I object very strongly to the inference I would 'lie' Zippy.

No one objects to you at all disliking Jedward,I frankly couldn't care who you like or dislike, but you choose to ridicule me and question what I say as to being the truth for my likes and dislikes.That is simply wrong.

This thread is about a Jedward juggernaut, you use it to 'again' get at the fans of Jedward not just Jedward themselves.

[chuff me dizzy]

She already been on BBOTS (twice I think) - and scantily dressed. :eek:

I highly doubt there's a video clip on the web of it though! :joker:




No but if challenging unthinking views at least makes them think, it's an achievement in itself. ;)

PLEASE !!!!!!!!!! dont look for one :o I was unlucky enough to she it live, big fat silly sow washing a car ,shes a Grandmother ffs ,doesnt she realise shes showing herself up ?

[Zippy]

This whole thing about not criticising fans is such BS anyways. Like being a fan is some special cloak that gives you special protection from being questioned or criticised?

absolute nonsense. If somebody posts an opinion I disagree with I will say so. I don't care who theyre a fan of!

[Zippy]

And Joey..

Im not reading all that.

Make your posts short n snappy if you want me to read them because I don't have the attention span.

[Pyramid*]

This whole thing about not criticising fans is such BS anyways. Like being a fan is some special cloak that gives you special protection from being questioned or criticised?
absolute nonsense. If somebody posts an opinion I disagree with I will say so. I don't care who theyre a fan of!

This whole thing about not criticising fans is such BS anyways.....
- that's something for you to raise with the mods then - and not take that out on the fans surely.


when the critising moves from the housemate to the actual fan... as it does zippy as has been showing on this thread time and time again... that's where is in not acceptable.

slag Jedward to within an inch of theri lives -it bothers me none. Be prepared for fans to defend their idol - but few here on this afford that respect as far as comment on and towards members are concerned: , bringing it down to a personal level, and insulting level as you (and some others do) and have been requested on this same thread to stop it.

It actually begs the question: if you do dislike them so much: why do you come on these threads so continually, even despite you saying quite clearly that you have stopped watching - you won't be fully in tune with all that my be currently happening : yet you seem to somehow be able to critisise the very people on a show that you claim to have stopped watching.

You aren't watching the show so how can even be sure that points you are putting over are correct / up to date / or in any way pertinent, when you say you aren't watcing?

[joeysteele]

And Joey..

Im not reading all that.

Make your posts short n snappy if you want me to read them because I don't have the attention span.

You are inferring I talk nonsense as to Jedward, thereby saying I am not telling the truth, you are therefore calling another member a liar and I take great objection to my integrity being questioned.
Now either prove I am a liar or retract your nonsense statement.

Also don't tell me how to make my posts, I don't tell you how long or short yours should be and you have no right to tell me to keep mine short when you are making comments as to my integrity!!.

That short and clear enough for you, but either please prove I am wrong and therefore posting wrong information, or admit you are incorrect and retract it and apologise,Thank you.

[joeysteele]

Also though may I strongly apologise to Caudlehalbard for my recent posts on this Jedward juggernaut thread.
You made a thread as to Jedward and some have chosen to again 'get at' their fans on it.

I regret that Zippy appears to want a slanging match but I will not sit back and have my integrity as to information and things I say on this forum questioned by him without him backing up with independent sources his criticisms and inferences towards me personally as to my information.

I fight my own battles and try to be as fair as I can but I will not sit back and have inferences that I have been lying from anyone.
I actually shouldn't have to as a member on here anyway,of course Zippy thinks the rules as to criticising fans is bs.(His own words not mine).

[CaudleHalbard]

Where are the mods in all this - lying low? ;)

On the forum I moderate, this type of behaviour would lead to a short term ban in the first instance and, if the offenders continued to offend, a permanent one.

So..... how about it mods? :)

[Zippy]

Get a grip, Joey. No need to be such a dramaqueen.

You say you don't care what I think then write all that? Ive never even mentioned you directly yet you seem to see yourself in everyone I post about. Very telling.

[InOne]

Where are the mods in all this - lying low? ;)

On the forum I moderate, this type of behaviour would lead to a short term ban in the first instance and, if the offenders continued to offend, a permanent one.

So..... how about it mods? :)

How about you shush and stay on topic :idc:

[Zippy]

Where are the mods in all this - lying low? ;)

On the forum I moderate, this type of behaviour would lead to a short term ban in the first instance and, if the offenders continued to offend, a permanent one.

So..... how about it mods? :)

Oh gawd, another one trying to tell the mods what to do.

Act the big crybaby or the big victim in an attempt to make somebody else look bad. How about you just grow a pair and argue your point?

[Vicky.]

Closing this. Way offtopic now anyways.

For the record, insulting other members is against the rules, fans of housemates are other members, so surely it makes sense that insulting fans is also against the rules?

On the same note, people insulting your favorite housemate is NOT a personal insult. Some people need to realize the difference.

We should be able to discuss the housemates without every thread ending up like this.

[Iceman]

Where are the mods in all this - lying low? ;)

On the forum I moderate, this type of behaviour would lead to a short term ban in the first instance and, if the offenders continued to offend, a permanent one.

So..... how about it mods? :)

Sorry to reply to a closed thread but this should be pointed out.

The report button is there, no need for this here, use it.