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Roy Mars III
05-09-2011, 06:58 PM
I have stolen this thread idea from another board, but, nonetheless, I think it's a good idea.

Rank the winners of Big Brother from best to worst. You can use any criteria. Gameplay, how much liked them, etc.

1. Dr. Will
2. Dan
3. Jun
4. Dick
5. Lisa
6. Boogie
7. Hayden
8. The dude who won season 9
9. Jordan
10. Drew
11. Maggie

I didn't count season 1, because I didn't see it. I did a little bit of it on gameplay, and some on how much I liked the housemate. Maggie, for example, played a good game, but she was boring and pretentious, so I ranked her last.

SoBig
05-09-2011, 07:02 PM
I have stolen this thread idea from another board, but, nonetheless, I think it's a good idea.

Rank the winners of Big Brother from best to worst. You can use any criteria. Gameplay, how much liked them, etc.

1. Dr. Will
2. Dan
3. Jun
4. Dick
5. Lisa
6. Boogie
7. Hayden
8. The dude who won season 9
9. Jordan
10. Drew
11. Maggie

I didn't count season 1, because I didn't see it. I did a little bit of it on gameplay, and some on how much I liked the housemate. Maggie, for example, played a good game, but she's a racist bitch, so I ranked her last.
How was Maggie racist?

Roy Mars III
05-09-2011, 07:08 PM
How was Maggie racist?

You are right. My bad, I was thinking of Ivette. Maggie did not say anything racist, she still deserves the last spot though.

SoBig
05-09-2011, 07:12 PM
Ranking is solely based on game play.

1. Dan (Dan played a better game in BB10, than Will did in BB2, but Will would be number 1, if you include his game play in BB7)
2. Dr Will
3. Dick
4. Jun
5. Hayden
6. Mike Boogie
7. Maggie
8. Drew
9. Adam
10. Lisa (Had no business winning. Danielle was CLEARLY the better player.)
11. Jordan

SoBig
05-09-2011, 07:14 PM
You are right. My bad, I was thinking of Ivette. Maggie did not say anything racist, she still deserves the last spot though.

What did Ivette say that was racist?

Roy Mars III
05-09-2011, 07:17 PM
What did Ivette say that was racist?

http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/archives/big_brother_6/2005_Sep_17_offensive_comments

JeanP!
05-09-2011, 07:20 PM
1 Jordan
2 Adam
3 Jun
4 Lisa
5-9 The rest
10 Dick
11 Maggie

SoBig
05-09-2011, 07:21 PM
http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/archives/big_brother_6/2005_Sep_17_offensive_comments

Wow. Thats ****ing pathetic.

SoBig
05-09-2011, 07:22 PM
1 Jordan
2 Adam
3 Jun
4 Lisa
5-9 The rest
10 Dick
11 Maggie

WTF

:conf:

Thats a joke right?

Roy Mars III
05-09-2011, 07:24 PM
1 Jordan
2 Adam
3 Jun
4 Lisa
5-9 The rest
10 Dick
11 Maggie

How is someone who did nothing but eat cookie dough her whole season the best winner?

Marc
05-09-2011, 07:29 PM
1. Dan
2. Will (tough between the two!)
3. Jun
4. Dick5. Mike Boogie
6. Hayden
7. Drew
8. Jordan
9. Lisa
10. Maggie
11. Adam
Didn't watch BB1 and I don't think there were any strategic play so I've excluded.

Vladimir
05-09-2011, 09:05 PM
1. Dan
2. Will ( I didn't watch his season though)


3. Dick (I hated him in S8, but he was a good player)
4. Jordan
6. Hayden
5. Boogie




6. Maggie

lostalex
05-09-2011, 09:08 PM
You are right. My bad, I was thinking of Ivette. Maggie did not say anything racist, she still deserves the last spot though.

Is racism worse than sexism? cause kaysar was just as sexist as Ivette was racist. And i don't think kaysar was sexist, and i don't think ivette was racist. They both just said horrible words in anger.

lostalex
05-09-2011, 09:11 PM
How is someone who did nothing but eat cookie dough her whole season the best winner?

umm, wouldn't it be pretty skillful to win by doing nothing? Jordan was so good she was able to win without do anything!! lol

reece(:
05-09-2011, 09:37 PM
1. Dan
2. Will
3. Jun
4. Dick
5. Jordan
6. Hayden
7. Boogie
8. Lisa
9. Drew
10. Maggie
11. Adam

LemonJam
05-09-2011, 11:29 PM
In terms of strategy:

Amazing Winners
1. Drew - Probably a really controversial choice, but he was never permanantley nommed, he was barely ever the target and everybody wanted him in the game until near the end. Whether he even realised it or not, he played an amazing game.
2. Dan - Definatley a season I need to rewatch, but he was aweeeesome.
3. Will - I actually think he played better in BB7 because of his game in the first 2-3 weeks of BB2.
4. Maggie - The control she had over not only her alliance but sometimes the entire house was astonishing.
5. Hayden - It's hard to rate Hayden because he had absolutley nothing to play against, but he played pretty solid, just nothing eye opening IMO.
6. Jun - The queen of floating, but had she been against anyone else in the final two, she'd have been fooked.

OK winners
7. Lisa - I actually think she's underrated as a player. She didn't deserve to win against Danielle or Jason but I think she had a legitimatley good strategy.
8. Adam - Honestly can't remember his game, but IIRC it was really similar to Dans in a way (making Ryan do his dirty work, similar to Dan/Memphis), so he may actually be much higher on rewatch.

Less than OK winners
9. Boogie - I kindof felt like the jury were hypocritical for criticizing Erika for riding on coatails when Boogie pretty much did the same thing.
10. Dick - Rigging kind of ruins him as a winner, but I still think he's a fair enough player. I'd have prefered a Daniele win though.
11. Jordan - I don't think she's as dumb of a player as people make her out to be, but she's easily the worst winner IMO.

Buuuuuut in terms of how much I like them:

1. Will (BB2 Will > BB7 Will)
2. Jun
3. Drew
4. Dan
5. Lisa
6. Dick
7. Maggie
8. Jordan (BB11 Jordan > Feline AIDs > BB13 Jordan)
9. Adam
10. Hayden
11. Boogie

lostalex
05-09-2011, 11:37 PM
It says everything we need to know that the person who puts Jordan as the worst winner, puts DREW as the best winner. lol.

Thank you for putting things into context.

LemonJam
05-09-2011, 11:50 PM
Oh really? Well I guess the fact that Drew was always on the right side at the right time MUST make him one of the worst? And his 4 HoH wins and decent social game MUST make him horrendous.

Yeah he's terrible compared to beloved Jordan, who would've been gone had it not been for a power that her smug twat of a boyfriend used and then he dragged her to the end.

Go play with your cats.

lostalex
06-09-2011, 12:47 AM
Oh really? Well I guess the fact that Drew was always on the right side at the right time MUST make him one of the worst? And his 4 HoH wins and decent social game MUST make him horrendous.

Yeah he's terrible compared to beloved Jordan, who would've been gone had it not been for a power that her smug twat of a boyfriend used and then he dragged her to the end.

Go play with your cats.


Ohh right, because DREW didn't get farther in the game by exploiting love interests at ALL right??? No, he would never do anything like THAT! lol

Ummm, did you even WATCH BB5???

Roy Mars III
06-09-2011, 12:54 AM
Drew chose winning the game over love, by choosing to go the final with Cowboy instead of his love interest Daine. Jordan would never pick winning over Jeff. Drew is the better player of the two, in my opinion.

It's extremely hypocritical of me saying that, because I put Jordan over Drew on my list, but that's because I found Drew to be very boring and vanilla. And because Jordan was decently entertaining in season 11.

LemonJam
06-09-2011, 01:04 AM
Ohh right, because DREW didn't get farther in the game by exploiting love interests at ALL right??? No, he would never do anything like THAT! lol

Ummm, did you even WATCH BB5???

He did, and it worked for him, thanks for pointing out yet another reason why he's my top strategic winner. :thumbs:

Roy Mars III
06-09-2011, 01:06 AM
I think I need to give season 5 a re-watch. I haven't seen it in a few years, and don't remember anything about it except how much I hated Cowboy.

LemonJam
06-09-2011, 01:10 AM
It's actually my favourite season; an amazing cast (bar Cowboy) and great strategic players.

lostalex
06-09-2011, 01:16 AM
He did, and it worked for him, thanks for pointing out yet another reason why he's my top strategic winner. :thumbs:


okay, but you were saying that Jordan is a bad winner because she used her love interest to get further in the game. Now yu are trying to say that actually manipulating a love interest to win is a Brilliant move?

(and they say American's don't get irony?- assuming lemonjam isn't american)

SoBig
06-09-2011, 01:41 AM
I think I need to give season 5 a re-watch. I haven't seen it in a few years, and don't remember anything about it except how much I hated Cowboy.
I watched it last month. Its the most boring season out of all the BB's. Especially after Jase was voted out.

LemonJam
06-09-2011, 01:42 AM
okay, but you were saying that Jordan is a bad winner because she used her love interest to get further in the game. Now yu are trying to say that actually manipulating a love interest to win is a Brilliant move?

(and they say American's don't get irony?- assuming lemonjam isn't american)

That's a fair point. I do kindof think Jordans BB11 game is a bit underrated (ignoring my earlier outburst LOL) but I don't feel she made a single move by herself. Her game pretty much consisted solely of riding coat-tails and getting helped out by Grodner, whereas Drew made moves and was on the right side at the right time all the time.

lostalex
06-09-2011, 01:47 AM
That's a fair point. I do kindof think Jordans BB11 game is a bit underrated (ignoring my earlier outburst LOL) but I don't feel she made a single move by herself. Her game pretty much consisted solely of riding coat-tails and getting helped out by Grodner, whereas Drew made moves and was on the right side at the right time all the time.

I honestly think, that in the future, people need to realize, that being popular with the public is a PART of the gameplay, because if you wanna carry favourite with Grodner, if you want the twists to go your way, then you should think about that before you go into the house, and that should be part of your game play. Because the producers ARE part of the game. imo.

AND to be fair to Allison, they've had An America's choice cash prize for how many seasons now?? So people should know by now that you have to be playing the game both for the fellow houseguests, aswell as the producers and the viewing audience.

This is not an EASY game. It has a lot of different angles.

SoBig
06-09-2011, 01:51 AM
Drew just went to which ever side had the power. Kind of like Adam, actually a lot like Adam. Never made a big move, wasn't strategic etc.

Pretty insulting to say that he was better than Will and Dan.

Drew was just a really boring player that basically didn't do anything.

SoBig
06-09-2011, 01:53 AM
I honestly think, that in the future, people need to realize, that being popular with the public is a PART of the gameplay, because if you wanna carry favourite with Grodner, if you want the twists to go your way, then you should think about that before you go into the house, and that should be part of your game play. Because the producers ARE part of the game. imo.

Okay now this is just a load of bull**** and why you can't be taken seriously when it comes to discussing BBUS.

Utterly ridiculous.

lostalex
06-09-2011, 01:59 AM
Okay now this is just a load of bull**** and why you can't be taken seriously when it comes to discussing BBUS.

Utterly ridiculous.

You're right, I just made up that entire post for sheets and giggles.

You KNOW that what i said is the truth.


1/2 a million Dollars is on the line , and NO it's notjust as easy as choosing a suitcase or saying red or black.

Big Brother is a HUMAN CHESS GAME. It's not meant to be easy.
If you wanna see someone get a million bucks by just being an idiot, it doesn't need to be FAIR, if you want FAIR then watch deal or no deal, or red or black.

Big Brother US isn't meant to be fair, it's meant to be a game of SKILL, unlike every other game show in the world. BBUS says from the very beginning, we WILL change the rules all the time, expect the unexpected!

BBUS is NOT a game of LUCK or randomness, like all the other game shows, that's what makes it great.

When has BBUS ever claimed to be fair? THAT's exactly what i love about it. BBUS has said from the very beginning, there are no rules, BB can change the rules at any times. The minute you think you know the rules, the rules will change. No one out-smarts Big Brother.

That's what makes it Big Brother and truly Orwelian.

rk3388
06-09-2011, 02:08 AM
1.Jordan
2.Dan
3.Dick
*HATE THE REST*
4.Dr.wIll
5.Jun
6.Eddie
7.Drew
*THESE R THE WORST WINNERS< I COULDNT WATCH*
8.Lisa
9.Maggie
10.Adam
11.Hayden
12. Mike

Roy Mars III
06-09-2011, 02:10 AM
1.Jordan
2.Dan
3.Dick
*HATE THE REST*
4.Dr.wIll
5.Jun
6.Eddie
7.Drew
*THESE R THE WORST WINNERS< I COULDNT WATCH*
8.Lisa
9.Maggie
10.Adam
11.Hayden
12. Mike

How can you hate Dr. Will? He's the godfather of the game.

lostalex
06-09-2011, 02:12 AM
How can you hate Dr. Will? He's the godfather of the game.

don't be so judgemental :nono:

lol, j/k.

But seriously though, Will himself even said everyone should hate him, so what do you mean? He was a very hate worthy figure. But a brilliant strategist, It is possible to respect someone and hate them.

Roy Mars III
06-09-2011, 02:24 AM
don't be so judgemental :nono:

lol, j/k.

But seriously though, Will himself even said everyone should hate him, so what do you mean? He was a very hate worthy figure. But a brilliant strategist, It is possible to respect someone and hate them.

True. I can't help but love the guy though.

Macie Lightfoot
06-09-2011, 02:50 AM
Most of the winners, although unlikable, were good players. Lisa's pretty underrated in terms of her gameplay because she's overshadowed by Danielle. The only winners that were really crappy in terms of gameplay are Dick and Jordan because there was too much manipulation and rigging that benefited them. Dick played a horrible game with tons of mistakes that people ignore, and Jordan did nothing at all.

lostalex
06-09-2011, 02:53 AM
Most of the winners, although unlikable, were good players. Lisa's pretty underrated in terms of her gameplay because she's overshadowed by Danielle. The only winners that were really crappy in terms of gameplay are Dick and Jordan because there was too much manipulation and rigging that benefited them. Dick played a horrible game with tons of mistakes that people ignore, and Jordan did nothing at all.

I don't even understand how you can have an opinion on this, arn't you the one that's always claiming that it's a total fix? so according to you it's all set up from the beginning by Allison and CBS right? by your logic, none of them are game players, it's all just a giant fix.

So how are you judging players if the Producers are manipulating the whole show according to you?

Macie Lightfoot
06-09-2011, 06:12 AM
I don't even understand how you can have an opinion on this, arn't you the one that's always claiming that it's a total fix? so according to you it's all set up from the beginning by Allison and CBS right? by your logic, none of them are game players, it's all just a giant fix.

So how are you judging players if the Producers are manipulating the whole show according to you?

Once again you're putting words in my mouth. I never said that it's always a total fix. Some seasons don't have much rigging, some seasons, like this one, have a lot of rigging. The more rigging, the less satisfying the winner. BB8, BB11, and BB13 are the three most rigged seasons. It's not a coincidence that, therefore, Dick and Jordan, in my opinion, are the two worst winners. And we'll see who wins this season.

LemonJam
06-09-2011, 01:37 PM
Drew just went to which ever side had the power. Kind of like Adam, actually a lot like Adam. Never made a big move, wasn't strategic etc.

Pretty insulting to say that he was better than Will and Dan.

Drew was just a really boring player that basically didn't do anything.

Meh, they're my top three and are pretty close in my eyes.

I wouldn't say Drew was of an Adam caliber. He won many HoH's and so forth had to make his own decisions whereas Adam follows everybody elses decisions and takes people he certainly can't beat to the end.

But Drew never needed to make a big, elaborate move because he always with the right people at the right time. Even so, I'd say getting Diane to go against her alliance at the F5 for him was a great move.

He's not the most exciting player, hell, he probably barely realised how good a game he played, but IMO he's the best winner.

-wishes he'd have put Will/Dan first to save the bother- :laugh:

MeMyselfAndI
11-09-2011, 01:47 PM
1. Jordan
2. Dick
3. Dan
4. Drew
5. Adam
6. Maggie
7. Mike

Seen S5-S12