Madonna... what an ungrateful cow.

[Pyramid*]

It was meant to be a touching gesture from an adoring fan.

But after one eager audience member presented Madonna with a hydrangeas, the material girl was left less than impressed.

And the singer and actress was caught voicing her disgust at the gift because the press conference microphone was left on.


While she smiled and said thank you to the fan she quickly put the flower under the table before shooting a glaring look at her friend.

Madonna,53, then proceeded to turn to the person sitting to her right and remarked: ‘I absolutely loathe hydrangeas.’

She added: ‘He obviously doesn’t know that.’








Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2034262/Madonna-impressed-floral-gift-fan-I-absolutely-loathe-hydrangeas.html#ixzz1XAXSdm4A


Now... coming from a Madonna fan..... I'm disgusted at this.

Seems she forgets that if it wasn't for adoring fans...... she wouldn't be where she is.

Sometimes it's gracious to keep your mouth shut Madonna.

[Niamh.]

In fairness though Hydrangeas are pretty ugly

[Pyramid*]

In fairness though Hydrangeas are pretty ugly

I do think so too.... but to say it having been given them by a fan - when she gives a pathetic withering look to the person on her left, before then saying what she did.... she seems to forget if it wasn't for fans - she'd be skanking it up in some hovel in NY.

[Niamh.]

She's only human though Pyramid

[Pyramid*]

She's only human though Pyramid

A very ungrateful human though Niamh.

[Smithy]

it's like when you get an xmas present you don't like

you should at least pretend to be grateful :bored:

[Niamh.]

it's like when you get an xmas present you don't like

you should at least pretend to be grateful :bored:

She did though to the guy who gave it her :conf:

[Pyramid*]

it's like when you get an xmas present you don't like

you should at least pretend to be grateful :bored:

Totally agree......... at least have the dignity to keep your mouth shut and your private thoughts that will offend your fan to yourself and long enough until you are out of the way.

I am losing any respect I ever had for her: between the constant need to have 20 year old guys on her arm, from the mess she is making of her face (got to laugh: happy to inject all sorts of crap into her, fillers, botox etc - but stricty follows macrobiotic diets etc.)

she is turning into a complete walking contradiction of terms.

[Smithy]

She did though to the guy who gave it her :conf:

Yeah, but she hadn't even finished the press conference or whatever it was, she waited till the guy left, then said she hated them.

[Pyramid*]

She did though to the guy who gave it her :conf:

she blew the pretence act by not being able to shut her gob for 5 minutes. that's kinda the whole point....

[MTVN]

I don't think it's that bad what she did, she smiled and thanked him, it's not like she threw them back in his face and told him it was a s**t present, it was just unfortunate that she didn't like the flowers he gave and that the microphone was on, she didn't intend to offend

[Pyramid*]

She did though to the guy who gave it her :conf:

she blew the pretence act by not being able to shut her gob for 5 minutes. that's kina the whole point....

[Smithy]

It reminds me of Gordon Brown and the "Bigoted Woman", shoulda waited till he was well away before saying anything

[Niamh.]

I don't think it's that bad what she did, she smiled and thanked him, it's not like she threw them back in his face and told him it was a s**t present, it was just unfortunate that she didn't like the flowers he gave and that the microphone was on, she didn't intend to offend

Exactly, she got caught saying something she thought was a private conversation ffs I'm betting we're all guilty of similar stuff sometimes, we're just not being watched constantly.

[Smithy]

-45U8RYhOH0

[Pyramid*]

Exactly, she got caught saying something she thought was a private conversation ffs I'm betting we're all guilty of similar stuff sometimes, we're just not being watched constantly.


Cant answer for anyone other than myself: but nope: I've not been in the public eye for about 35 years, completely utterly media savvy, accepted a gift from anyone and ever berated that gift until I am well out of the way.

[Pyramid*]

-45U8RYhOH0

as I said in my very early post: not only did she come away with the ungrateful comment... but before she did, she looks to her right ... spot the look, the eye contact she's making with that person, the raising of her eyebrows, the mouth action.... then she proceeds to turn to her left to make the comment. *or vice versa as far as left/right is concerned*

she didn't give a damn...clearly. she wanted people on both sides of her to know how much she did not appreciate the gesture. Cow.

[Niamh.]

Cant answer for anyone other than myself: but nope: I've not been in the public eye for about 35 years, completely utterly media savvy, accepted a gift from anyone and ever berated that gift until I am well out of the way.

Oh well, when you put it like that lets hang, draw and quarter her then! After 35 years experience no mis-judgment shall be tolerated!

[Pyramid*]

Oh well, when you put it like that lets hang, draw and quarter her then! After 35 years experience no mis-judgment shall be tolerated!

Thanks, glad we agree. :hugesmile:

As I said: it wasn't a one-of slip...see vid.

[Pyramid*]

I don't think it's that bad what she did, she smiled and thanked him, it's not like she threw them back in his face and told him it was a s**t present, it was just unfortunate that she didn't like the flowers he gave and that the microphone was on, she didn't intend to offend

so unfortunate that she wasted no time in letting people to her right and her left know in no uncertain terms what she thought of the gift/gesture.

[Livia]

Exactly, she got caught saying something she thought was a private conversation ffs I'm betting we're all guilty of similar stuff sometimes, we're just not being watched constantly.

Exactly. Mountain... molehill.

[Pyramid*]

Exactly. Mountain... molehill.

And therein lies the difference of opinion.

[Iceman]

She should be shot.

[Stu]

Much ado about nothing. I imagine we would all be in for a shock if we watched fly on the wall, Big Brother style the lives of our favourite folks and took issue with events of this epic proportion.

[cub]

Madonna's always been the same, she's never changed thank goodness. She has always been honest. What comes with honesty is not always liking what she says. Tough. It was said in a prvate conversation anyway.

Hydrangeas are ugly. The fan should have had taste and known that.

He will know now.

[Zippy]

what a silly thread about nothing.

She wasn't rude to the fan and politely accepted it. What she says in what she thought was a private moment is irrelevant. If any of us was handed a gift we didnt like we would say the exact same thing. No question.

If she were a cow she'd have been rude to the fans face.

[Livia]

True Zippy.

She's not THE Madonna.

[Zippy]

you should at least pretend to be grateful :bored:

she did!

[Niamh.]

Can't wait till Harry sees this thread :laugh:

[Smithy]

she did!

Yeah, but she hadn't even finished the press conference or whatever it was, she waited till the guy left, then said she hated them.

[Livia]

Can't believe people are getting wound up by this non-story, considering all the stuff going on in the world. Threads like this make me wonder why 'news stories' was ever combined with 'serious debates'. This isn't even a news story, it's celebrity trivia.

[fruit_cake]

hating a flower seems a bit ott..

[Zippy]

Yeah, but she hadn't even finished the press conference or whatever it was, she waited till the guy left, then said she hated them.

big deal. But we all know you ain't no Madonna fan so go sit with Pyramid.

[joeysteele]

Madonna being Madonna,she has stirred up a fair bit of controversy in her time but she marches on and her music is awesome.

[Smithy]

big deal. But we all know you ain't no Madonna fan so go sit with Pyramid.

no

http://i.imgur.com/iLbA0.gif

[Niamh.]

hating a flower seems a bit ott..

maybe she was abused by one when she was younger :hmph:

[joeysteele]

I have to say also though, we have hydrangeas in our garden at home but its something I would never think of giving to someone,or lilies,without knowing or just having an idea they liked them first.

[Pyramid*]

big deal. But we all know you ain't no Madonna fan so go sit with Pyramid.

Shows how little you know about other forum members then Zippy.... I am actually is a HUGE Madonna fan.

Difference is: I have the ability to actually accept when someone I like has overstepped the mark as far as disrespecting her fan/s is concerned - I don't stumble along blithely ignoring when they screw up and make a mockery of the people that put her where she is.

[Pyramid*]

what a silly thread about nothing.

She wasn't rude to the fan and politely accepted it. What she says in what she thought was a private moment is irrelevant. If any of us was handed a gift we didnt like we would say the exact same thing. No question.

If she were a cow she'd have been rude to the fans face.

dead simple Zippy...... if you think any thread is silly, about nothing - simply don't post in it - as I have been told by others (including the mods).

Press conferences aren't private moments..... :joker:

[joeysteele]

Press conferences aren't private moments..... :joker:

Good point, they are not.

[Zippy]

if I didnt post in it then I wouldn't be able to tell you how silly it was...and why. Calling her a cow just for being honest in a private moment.

[Pyramid*]

Can't believe people are getting wound up by this non-story, considering all the stuff going on in the world. Threads like this make me wonder why 'news stories' was ever combined with 'serious debates'. This isn't even a news story, it's celebrity trivia.


99% of the threads on this forum are about frivilous stuff, considering all the stuff going on in the world.......

Who's getting wound up. It's called Freedom of Speech.

[Pyramid*]

if I didnt post in it then I wouldn't be able to tell you how silly it was...and why. Calling her a cow just for being honest in a private moment.

I'm entitled to start a thread if I wish Zippy, without you doing nothing but coming onto it to state how silly it is or I am, for calling her cow etc....for giving my opinion.

Seems you are hell bent on taking things to personal level and commenting on forum members personally, than the actual thread subject.

[Zippy]

Press conferences aren't private moments..... :joker:

No theyre publicity events. But you can still have a private moment within one. She was away from the mic and it was obviously just meant to be heard by her friend. Again, she was polite and gracious to the fan and that's really what matters.

[Pyramid*]

No theyre publicity events. But you can still have a private moment within one. She was away from the mic and it was obviously just meant to be heard by her friend. Again, she was polite and gracious to the fan and that's really what matters.

Precisely...they are not private.

She ws not away from the mic otherwise it would not have been heard.

She was not away from the cameras otherwise it would not have been captured.

She should have kept her mouth shut until she was in private. It's that little known thing called 'respect' (seems she's all into respecting herself and to hell with obliging others with a little of the same)

[Livia]

99% of the threads on this forum are about frivilous stuff, considering all the stuff going on in the world.......

Who's getting wound up. It's called Freedom of Speech.

Good luck with the freedom of speech thing... this time.

Madonna gets a shrub she doesn't like and is overheard making a comment. And there is it, nestling amongst "Ground Zero Mosque" and "Judge gives Squatters the go-ahead". It is out of place.

[MTVN]

Good point Livia, I've moved this to celebrity news

[Tom4784]

She should have known to keep quiet until it was all over, surely the one thing she should have learned over the years when it comes to fans is subtlety.

[Pyramid*]

Good point Livia, I've moved this to celebrity news


good point? It was housed in the correct section,given that it originated from a news story in a newspaper. ;)

[Smithy]

yeah, but it was a news story about a celebrity, they've got to come from somewhere

[Tom4784]

But it's celebrity news at the end of the day Pyramid. It's pointless to continue going on about it.

[Pyramid*]

Good luck with the freedom of speech thing... this time.

Madonna gets a shrub she doesn't like and is overheard making a comment. And there is it, nestling amongst "Ground Zero Mosque" and "Judge gives Squatters the go-ahead". It is out of place.

Respectfully Livia, rather than complaining about the set up of the forum on this thread.... perhaps that something you should take up with the mods/admin? It was a news story, taken from a newspaper and therefore, was placed in an appropriate secton.

I don't make the forum sections or sub-sections up. If you don't like the content of the thread in comparion to what else is going on in the world, there's no need to post in it or mock it.

[Pyramid*]

But it's celebrity news at the end of the day Pyramid. It's pointless to continue going on about it.

It very much seems that MTVN took the opportunity to move it from one appropriate section to another equally appropriate section out of nothing more than sheer pedantry. and yes, it is pointless to debate about that aspect.

[Smithy]

It very much seems that MTVN took the opportunity to move it from one appropriate section to another equally appropriate section out of nothing more than sheer pedantry.

it wasn't out of pedantry

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=182755

[Tom4784]

It very much seems that MTVN took the opportunity to move it from one appropriate section to another equally appropriate section out of nothing more than sheer pedantry.

Why are you trying to make something out of nothing? It got moved, deal with it and drop it.

[Niamh.]

Pyramid, it's not exactly a serious news article, it's about some flowers fgs

[Pyramid*]

it wasn't out of pedantry

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=182755

Ah.... mind reading abilities.

Why are you trying to make something out of nothing? It got moved, deal with it and drop it.


Go back and check my edit ..... posted before you posted this I believe.

Pyramid, it's not exactly a serious news article, it's about some flowers fgs

no need for all the bold fgs stuff Niamh... it's hardly my fault that admin decided to merge a very broad suject that covers many things, into the Serious Debates side. funny how Livia can make several comments about the same matter and get backed up: I do it and shot down.

[MTVN]

Oh well I didn't expect that to cause a fuss :laugh:

The article was a news story about a celebrity i.e. celebrity news. If you would take a look at the link that Smithy posted you might see why the "Serious debates and news" section was not the most appropriate place

[Pyramid*]

Why are you trying to make something out of nothing? It got moved, deal with it and drop it.

Oh well I didn't expect that to cause a fuss :laugh:

The article was a news story about a celebrity i.e. celebrity news. If you would take a look at the link that Smithy posted you might see why the "Serious debates and news" section was not the most appropriate place


Sigh........

[InOne]

She is old enough and rich enough not to really care about anything these days.

[MTVN]

Sigh........

No need to sigh, I moved the thread so just felt like I owed an explanation seeing as you seemed to think it was done out of "sheer pedantry"

[Pyramid*]

She is old enough and rich enough not to really care about anything these days.

And in most cases, I would be in agreement that would be fair enough.

I simply found the crassness, complete disregard after a kind gesture by a fan, ignorant beyond belief.

[Pyramid*]

No need to sigh, I moved the thread so just felt like I owed an explanation seeing as you seemed to think it was done out of "sheer pedantry"


The sigh was relating to you not dropping the sujbect MTVN - as Dezzy suggested, along with Niamh....and the fact that you brought it back on board again.

[Marsh.]

I have to laugh at people saying "at least she's honest". How is making the bitchy comment behind the back of the person being honest?

Nice of her to be polite to the person's face and say thank you but then again she's always been a high and mighty bitch.

The one thing that annoys me in that video is that she's still clinging onto that awful fake accent she likes to think is British.

[Marc]

Should have given her a time bomb and ran.

[Zippy]

she didnt make a bitchy comment she just says she hates those flowers and then added that he obviously doesnt know that. She was polite and gracious to the fan. Her comment was about the flower not the fan.

and Im not even talking to Madonna haters because you'll think the worst regardless. Ho-hum.

[fruit_cake]

seems to me that it was more important to her to state her loathing for hydrangeas than it was to be pleased a fan had taken the time to give her the flower.

[Marsh.]

The way she said "He obviously doesn't know that" sounded a bit like she expected him to know that as her fan. Making it seem bitchy.

But that fake accent riles me up, does she actually listen to herself on recording talking like that?

[Pyramid*]

she didnt make a bitchy comment she just says she hates those flowers and then added that he obviously doesnt know that. She was polite and gracious to the fan. Her comment was about the flower not the fan.

and Im not even talking to Madonna haters because you'll think the worst regardless. Ho-hum.

she said thanks, accepted the flower and put it out of the way, and whilst doing so: turned to the person to her left, check her eyes, the flicker of the raised eyebrows, the mocking gesture of her mouth - subtle but unmistakable - to the person on her left. She then turned to her right, gave her verbal comment to the person on her right..... and it was the person on her right to whom she was speaking: that said, "He obviously doesn't know that".


Mmmm.... now... Im not sure.....if it was her own voice or not? Anyway: she's still a boot for being so rude.

[Doogle]

She could've just kept that to herself. She didn't need to do that. She was probably grateful for the gesture but that was a bit rude of her, even if they were out of sight.

[Zippy]

she said thanks, accepted the flower and put it out of the way, and whilst doing so: turned to the person to her left, check her eyes, the flicker of the raised eyebrows, the mocking gesture of her mouth - subtle but unmistakable - to the person on her left. She then turned to her right, gave her verbal comment to the person on her right..... and it was the person on her right to whom she was speaking: that said, "He obviously doesn't know that".


Mmmm.... now... Im not sure.....if it was her own voice or not? Anyway: she's still a boot for being so rude.

regardless, her disdain was clearly aimed at the flowers not the fan. The fan had turned their back to walk away at that point so she in no way meant any offense to them.

but continue making a mountain out of a mole hill as you usually do.

And if this minor incident has put you off her then you really can't be much of a fan in the first place, frankly.

[joeysteele]

Madonna has always been a little volatile, I think that maybe she could have waited until later to comment but I doubt she cares much what people think.

She remains top of her game and her fantastic music really does her talking for her.

She even once upset the Vatican in Rome so she certainly will not be bothered as to this and we all make slip ups now and again.

She's an actress and a Singer who is brilliant at both those things she does.

[Pyramid*]

regardless, her disdain was clearly aimed at the flowers not the fan. The fan had turned their back to walk away at that point so she in no way meant any offense to them.

but continue making a mountain out of a mole hill as you usually do.

And if this minor incident has put you off her then you really can't be much of a fan in the first place, frankly.

I'd appreciate if you could stick to the topic of the thread - rather than me personally Zippy. thanks.

[Smithy]

If I ever see madonna in person, I shall happy slap her for you pyramid

[Jords]

'he obviously doesnt know that' :hmph:

Toffee nose bitch.

['Conor]

Jeez, she doesn't like those flowers, shes only human, i understand the comment was a bit bitchy, but no need to make such a deal out of it, she didn't shoot anyone

[Zippy]

If I ever see madonna in person, I shall happy slap her for you pyramid

she'd beat the crap out of you

[Pyramid*]

If I ever see madonna in person, I shall happy slap her for you pyramid


thanks very much. While you're there....tell her she'd had too much work to her face..... she looked so much better without it.

Still loving her music though, just don't like the way she's turning of late.

[Zippy]

'he obviously doesnt know that' :hmph:

Toffee nose bitch.
well apparently it's the woman next to her who says that.
thanks very much. While you're there....tell her she'd had too much work to her face..... she looked so much better without it.



Oh now you show your true bitchy colours. Another catty hater.

[Pyramid*]

Madonna has always been a little volatile, I think that maybe she could have waited until later to comment but I doubt she cares much what people think.

She remains top of her game and her fantastic music really does her talking for her.

She even once upset the Vatican in Rome so she certainly will not be bothered as to this and we all make slip ups now and again.

She's an actress and a Singer who is brilliant at both those things she does.


I'm absolutely assured in the knowledge that she won't be looking in on this forum, shattered because she's pissed Pyramid* off with her complete lack of respect and inability to not be so ignorant and instead, be ungracious. Im 100% sure she won't be bothered. :spin:

I'm not decrying her work - no issues on that score at all :)

[Shaun]

She should have known to keep quiet until it was all over, surely the one thing she should have learned over the years when it comes to fans is subtlety.

She brought out a book with her minge in it, I doubt she knows subtlety.

[Pyramid*]

well apparently it's the woman next to her who says that.


Oh now you show your true bitchy colours. Another catty hater.

Hey listen: if she's going for the Wildenstein look, she's doing an excellent job of it.

Again Zippy..... I'll ask you to keep your personal insults off the board. thanks.

[Marsh.]

she'd beat the crap out of you

Not if he ran off, she couldn't chase him she might do her hip in.

[Zippy]

Hey listen: if she's going for the Wildenstein look, she's doing an excellent job of it.

Again Zippy..... I'll ask you to keep your personal insults off the board. thanks.

She looks nothing remotely like the Wildenstein woman and you know it. Again, just being downright catty and bitchy for the sake of it.

And don't even bother calling yourself a fan again because you're not fit to be one.

[Marsh.]

Who are you to say who's a fan of whatever?

He can like her music and be a "fan" without sucking on her droopy tits and loving every pathetic thing about her. That fake accent for a start.

[Smithy]

Not if he ran off, she couldn't chase him she might do her hip in.

:joker::joker:

[Marsh.]

well apparently it's the woman next to her who says that.

:joker:

What a ridiculous thing to suggest. She quite obviously says it clearly on the video. In that pathetic faux-english accent.

[Doogle]

Not if he ran off, she couldn't chase him she might do her hip in.

Who are you to say who's a fan of whatever?

He can like her music and be a "fan" without sucking on her droopy tits and loving every pathetic thing about her. That fake accent for a start.

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker: dying

[Harry!]

Hello...

Well if she thanked the person like anybody else would do and that what mattered. I would do the same.

You can all blame Mr Guy Richie for her ''British Accent'' adapted during her marrage to him.

The ageist comments in here are immature really.

[Marsh.]

Hello...

Well if she thanked the person like anybody else would do and that what mattered. I would do the same.

You can all blame Mr Guy Richie for her ''British Accent'' adapted during her marrage to him.

Got to seriously disagree here, she purposely puts the accent on. She sounds as if she's trying to be posh but it sounds more Dick Van Dyke than Queen Elizabeth.

She obviously likes the accent and likes to pretend she has it, when she doesn't.

It's the same with everything, dresses all saintly and librarian like to be a serious children's author, then she's pulling out the whips to dominate Justin Timberlake, then she's flapping about in a leotard to show the world her camel toe, over exercising before claiming to be a very religious or whatever.

She has an identity problem. It's not cool if you're constantly trying to be something you're not.

[Smithy]

Hello...

Well if she thanked the person like anybody else would do and that what mattered. I would do the same.

You can all blame Mr Guy Richie for her ''British Accent'' adapted during her marrage to him.

The ageist comments in here are immature really.


not really :joker: she's the only one who chooses how she speaks, my aunt moved to australia over 40 years ago and she still has a british accent

[Zippy]

and anybody who resorts to making bitchy ott remarks about her looks is definitely not fit to call themselves a fan. No fan would do that. Phonies.

Im bringing back my Madonna avatars now.

[Harry!]

Got to seriously disagree here, she purposely puts the accent on. She sounds as if she's trying to be posh but it sounds more Dick Van Dyke than Queen Elizabeth.

She obviously likes the accent and likes to pretend she has it, when she doesn't.

It's the same with everything, dresses all saintly and librarian like to be a serious children's author, then she's pulling out the whips to dominate Justin Timberlake, then she's flapping about in a leotard to show the world her camel toe, over exercising before claiming to be a very religious or whatever.

She has an identity problem. It's not cool if you're constantly trying to be something you're not.

Well obviosuly she doesn't talk like that all the time, other videos would dectate that. But the influence of Guy Richie started her ''British Accent''.

Madonna is a a buisness woman don't forget and she should be entitled to do exatly what she wants. That is why she decided to produce her upcoming film instead of standard music. Film has always been a part which she has wanted to be a success in. She has talken up many other prodjects over the last few years such as starting a fasion line with daughter Lourdes as a mother-daughter interest. Obviously she is interested in charity work; she founded Saving Malawi and has adopted 2 children.

And Madonna's identity has always been a iconic part of her, look at her many era's in her discography. Or Desperately Seeking Susan for that matter...

[Smithy]

Im bringing back my Madonna avatars now.

looks more like the child catcher

[MTVN]

Deleted some posts, enough of the arguing

[Stu]

And the Razzie for worst thread of the year goes to ...

[Marsh.]

Well obviosuly she doesn't talk like that all the time, other videos would dectate that. But the influence of Guy Richie started her ''British Accent''.

Fair enough about her identity and diverse projects but the fact she doesn't speak like that all the time shows how awful it is. Doing the accent on purpose when she can't even do it properly. It's like she's constantly giving a bad acting performance.

And I won't go into what I think of the whole adoption fiasco.

[Marsh.]

and anybody who resorts to making bitchy ott remarks about her looks is definitely not fit to call themselves a fan. No fan would do that. Phonies.

Im bringing back my Madonna avatars now.

Good for you. However, I've never claimed to be a fan. Liked a few of her songs and the Ray of Light era was pretty good but she is one deluded woman inside.

[Zippy]

Doing the accent on purpose when she can't even do it properly. It's like she's constantly giving a bad acting performance.

she doesn't have to do it properly because she's not attempting to do an exact copy of an English accent. She just has an English twist to it from living here for years. Its a hybrid accent. Just like Kylie has.

and why the hell do you care? You seem obsessed with how she speaks as if it even matters.

Ill shut up now because a certain mod is waiting to pounce again. :(

[Harry!]

Fair enough about her identity and diverse projects but the fact she doesn't speak like that all the time shows how awful it is. Doing the accent on purpose when she can't even do it properly. It's like she's constantly giving a bad acting performance.

And I won't go into what I think of the whole adoption fiasco.

All I would have to say that you don't know what the real Madonna is like and if Madonna choses to have a British accent for show then she can. (Her Like A ''Wirgin'' German accent is far worse). The film is a British based film so she might of put it on for that reason...? Some might pick sticks (I would) at your last comment but we won't go there...

[Marsh.]

she doesn't have to do it properly because she's not attempting to do an exact copy of an English accent. She just has an English twist to it from living here for years. Its a hybrid accent. Just like Kylie has.

and why the hell do you care? You seem obsessed with how she speaks as if it even matters.

Ill shut up now because a certain mod is waiting to pounce again. :(

It's not a hybrid, it's not her natural "twist". It's a voice she is consciously putting on in an attempt to be British and it aint working.

Like when claimed to love the British countryside, put the accent on with some riding gear and tweed jackets and thought she was Lady of the Manor.

[Livia]

Are people still talking about this? Longest thread about a pointless non-story I've ever seen. A thinly-veiled opportunity for people to be bitchy about a woman who has so far had an amazing thirty-year career... but didn't like some flowers.

[Pyramid*]

She looks nothing remotely like the Wildenstein woman and you know it. Again, just being downright catty and bitchy for the sake of it.

And don't even bother calling yourself a fan again because you're not fit to be one.

she's starting to turn into her.

I don't have the same level of complete and utter blinded adoration for a megastar, but that doesn't stop me being a fan of her music.

[Pyramid*]

She looks nothing remotely like the Wildenstein woman and you know it. Again, just being downright catty and bitchy for the sake of it.

And don't even bother calling yourself a fan again because you're not fit to be one.

she's starting to turn into her.

Sorry I don't have the same level of complete and utter blinded adoration for a megastar, but that doesn't stop me being a fan of her music.

[Marsh.]

1) All I would have to say that you don't know what the real Madonna is like

2) and if Madonna choses to have a British accent for show then she can. (Her Like A ''Wirgin'' German accent is far worse).

3) The film is a British based film so she might of put it on for that reason...?

1) Obviously no one does because she puts on so many characters.

2) Of course she can, I was just stating how much I detested not just the accent but her arrogant attitude on the subject when Zippy had some comments to make which I responded to.
Not heard the German accent, sounds awful.

3) Maybe. And that is pathetic in my opinion.

[Marsh.]

Are people still talking about this? Longest thread about a pointless non-story I've ever seen. A thinly-veiled opportunity for people to be bitchy about a woman who has so far had an amazing thirty-year career... but didn't like some flowers.

:joker:
Let's all lick Madonna's anal cavity!!! Woooooo!!!!!

[Zippy]

she's starting to turn into her.

Sorry I don't have the same level of complete and utter blinded adoration for a megastar, but that doesn't stop me being a fan of her music.

utter nonsense. She's had minor non surgical work done. And she looks natural. You're really stretching to compare her to Wilderstein.

And proving you're no fan. Your point isn't about pointing out truths its just pure insults and bitching.

[Pyramid*]

she doesn't have to do it properly because she's not attempting to do an exact copy of an English accent. She just has an English twist to it from living here for years. Its a hybrid accent. Just like Kylie has.

and why the hell do you care? You seem obsessed with how she speaks as if it even matters.

Ill shut up now because a certain mod is waiting to pounce again. :(

By the same premise, you appear to be displaying a level of obsession in respect of being remiss to anyone who simply doesn't share your own level of adoration for her - and dismissing anything anyone else has to say about Madonna if it is not in glowing terms. People can be fans but also able to make comment on when they think that 'star' was out of order.

[Marsh.]

utter nonsense. She's had minor non surgical work done. And she looks natural. You're really stretching to compare her to Wilderstein.

And proving you're no fan. Your point isn't about pointing out truths its just pure insults and bitching.

He's a fan of music she makes. Not necessarily her as a person.

A bit like me finding a couple of Katy Perry songs quite catchy but not being a fan of her at all.


Edit - ^^^^ Well said Pyramid.

[Pyramid*]

utter nonsense. She's had minor non surgical work done. And she looks natural. You're really stretching to compare her to Wilderstein.

And proving you're no fan. Your point isn't about pointing out truths its just pure insults and bitching.


She has had surgery, both invasive and non evasive. I don't find it is improving her looks, and in 2 of the recent photos - she is displaying the very same 'look' as many woman who have overstepped the cosmetic procedures take on - and yes, there are sign of that look being the early stages of the Wildenstein started off looking like

I don't have to rebuke any possible criticism of Madonna to be a fan - whether of her or her music.

[Pyramid*]

He's a fan of music she makes. Not necessarily her as a person.

A bit like me finding a couple of Katy Perry songs quite catchy but not being a fan of her at all.


Edit - ^^^^ Well said Pyramid.

I was and have been a massive fan since she first hit the scene - struggling with her leggings and bits of lace wrapped round her head - I loved her edgyness, the boundaries she pushed.

Since she's moved away from Guy Ritchie, she appears to have become so different to the star that I used to admire.

[Zippy]

She does not have a stretched look to her face and I doubt she's even had time to go in for surgery. Her face looks the result of fillers and botox. Just injections.

But, of course, know all Pyramid thinks she knows better. Obviously not.

[Marsh.]

She does not have a stretched look to her face and I doubt she's even had time to go in for surgery. Her face looks the result of fillers and botox. Just injections.

But, of course, know all Pyramid thinks she knows better. Obviously not.

It may not be a full on stretching face lift but she has had surgery most definitely.

[Livia]

:joker:
Let's all lick Madonna's anal cavity!!! Woooooo!!!!!

Is that how you interpreted my post? How strange.

[Smithy]

If you watch the video she looks pretty awful, her cheeks look huge

[Shaun]

I diagnose this thread with terminal "no1curr" syndrome.

[Marsh.]

Is that how you interpreted my post? How strange.

A thinly-veiled opportunity for people to be bitchy.

My post was a response to this particular bit. As though people can't air their negative views. Yet the OTT positive people can carry on without seeing the other side of the coin.

[Marsh.]

I diagnose this thread with terminal "no1curr" syndrome.

Then why post let alone open the thread?

[Zippy]

wow somebody can't shut up

[Pyramid*]

She does not have a stretched look to her face and I doubt she's even had time to go in for surgery. Her face looks the result of fillers and botox. Just injections.

But, of course, know all Pyramid thinks she knows better. Obviously not.


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_YKYinnCIcVw/S-z4af3WiaI/AAAAAAAAFZA/FQ2EgCY_dRk/s400/MadonnaPlasticSurgeryBeforeAndAfter.jpg (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_YKYinnCIcVw/S-z4af3WiaI/AAAAAAAAFZA/FQ2EgCY_dRk/s1600/MadonnaPlasticSurgeryBeforeAndAfter.jpg)

Check the cheeks...andthe nasolabial folds, along with the neck.


and in 2011.....
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/09/03/article-0-0DAA2BB000000578-801_233x423.jpg


she has had cosmetic surgery.

[Marsh.]

wow somebody can't shut up

http://www.ps3blog.net/wp-content/uploads/irony.gif

[Zippy]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_YKYinnCIcVw/S-z4af3WiaI/AAAAAAAAFZA/FQ2EgCY_dRk/s400/MadonnaPlasticSurgeryBeforeAndAfter.jpg (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_YKYinnCIcVw/S-z4af3WiaI/AAAAAAAAFZA/FQ2EgCY_dRk/s1600/MadonnaPlasticSurgeryBeforeAndAfter.jpg)

Check the cheeks...andthe nasolabial folds, along with the neck.


and in 2011.....
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/09/03/article-0-0DAA2BB000000578-801_233x423.jpg


she has had cosmetic surgery.

Cosmetic surgery = injections

fillers and botox. Which is what I said in my very first post. :/

Wilderstein has had loads of permanent surgical operations so your comparison is ridiculous.

[Livia]

My post was a response to this particular bit. As though people can't air their negative views. Yet the OTT positive people can carry on without seeing the other side of the coin.

This thread IS a thinly veiled opportunity to be bitchy. It started out as a criticism of her saying something derogatory about some flowers. Now her accent's been ridiculed, long discussions about her surgery, her age, her clothes... The hate is getting hysterical as usual.

[Smithy]

you'd have thought with all that money she'd have her teeth fixed

[Pyramid*]

My post was a response to this particular bit. As though people can't air their negative views. Yet the OTT positive people can carry on without seeing the other side of the coin.


yes, It certainly appears to be the case - and those with less than positive comments are called bitchy, nasty, catty bla bla blah.

Still doesn't detract from the fact or the points made in the OP, and since, and throughout the thread.

[Livia]

yes, It certainly appears to be the case - and those with less than positive comments are called bitchy, nasty, catty bla bla blah.

Still doesn't detract from the fact or the points made in the OP, and since, and throughout the thread.

Your original post was about flowers and how rude you thought she was. Now it's all about surgery and the way she looks. It is bitchy.

[Pyramid*]

This thread IS a thinly veiled opportunity to be bitchy. It started out as a criticism of her saying something derogatory about some flowers. Now her accent's been ridiculed, long discussions about her surgery, her age, her clothes... The hate is getting hysterical as usual.

I believe that is allowed either way - as we are discussing the celebrity.

What is not thinly veined, are the personal insults toward members of this forum who are not overflowing with adoration for Madonna, and it has only evolved in the manner it has: due to some turning it into a personal slagging match by insulting forum members, rather than actually sticking to the subject in hand: Madonna.

[Livia]

I believe that is allowed either way - as we are discussing the celebrity.

What is not thinly veined, are the personal insults toward members of this forum who are not overflowing with adoration for Madonna, and it has only evolved in the manner it has: due to some turning it into a personal slagging match by insulting forum members, rather than actually sticking to the subject in hand: Madonna.

Angry. Irony. Noted.

[Pyramid*]

Your original post was about flowers and how rude you thought she was. Now it's all about surgery and the way she looks. It is bitchy.

Correct, and it has evolved in discussing other less positive aspects as people have put their own input in.

If it is bitchy, then it is towards the celebrity and there is no rule breaks on that front.

if people do not want to read what the don't like seeing - they don't have to keep returning to the thread. Surely that's a fair basic concept? Any bitchy comments if you want to put it like that, are being directed at Madonna - so I'm not sure why some seem to be taking it so personally.

Mountains / molehills anyone?

[Pyramid*]

She does not have a stretched look to her face and I doubt she's even had time to go in for surgery. Her face looks the result of fillers and botox. Just injections.

But, of course, know all Pyramid thinks she knows better. Obviously not.

Cosmetic surgery = injections

fillers and botox. Which is what I said in my very first post. :/

Wilderstein has had loads of permanent surgical operations so your comparison is ridiculous.


Make your mind up - one minute you're saying she's not had time for surgery, then you're saying cosmetic surgery = injections.

She's had implants, fillers, botox and light facelift.

Probably a blephraplasty as well somewhere along the years too. ;)

[Pyramid*]

you'd have thought with all that money she'd have her teeth fixed

She did...she's had the gap done, that she had between her 2 front teeth.

[Zippy]

Make your mind up - one minute you're saying she's not had time for surgery, then you're saying cosmetic surgery = injections.

She's had implants, fillers, botox and light facelift.

Probably a blephraplasty as well somewhere along the years too. ;)

Fillers and other injections can be done in lunchbreaks. I was referring to Surgical operations that require hospital time and recovery periods.

and how the hell would you know she's had a light facelift? You're just making it up.

anyways you've bored me enough today with your nonsense.

[Pyramid*]

Fillers and other injections can be done in lunchbreaks. I was referring to Surgical operations that require hospital time and recovery periods.

and how the hell would you know she's had a light facelift? You're just making it up.

anyways you've bored me enough today with your nonsense.

You think she has not had invasive surgery.

I'm absolutely adamant that she has.

As for me boring you, you've gone to great lengths to continue posting on this thread, so I'm guessing I've also provided you with some entertainment too..... I really should charge you!

:joker:

[Callum]

-qlXMA0v-WA

:laugh2: :love:

[Pyramid*]

-qlXMA0v-WA

:laugh2: :love:
Where did you find that.....it's hilarious!!!!:joker:

[Callum]

Where did you find that.....it's hilarious!!!!:joker:

I saw it posted on Twitter, yeah I found it really funny, shows she has a sense of humour. :laugh:

[Pyramid*]

I saw it posted on Twitter, yeah I found it really funny, shows she has a sense of humour. :laugh:

Superb stuff. :thumbs:

[Harry!]

So **** you I like Roses :joker:.

That video makes me laugh every time <3

[Jordan.]

Shes a horrible stuck up old bag, If I ever saw her in real life I'd go out of my way to avoid her just because I know shes the type that would be pissed off that people didn't make a fuss over her.

[Pyramid*]

So **** you I like Roses :joker:.

That video makes me laugh every time <3

Personally I like Black Magic or Terry's All Gold.

:D

I have to agree: the vid is funny.

[Harry!]

I so want to buy a bunch of hydrangeas for myself now hehe.