The Twist (All Rumours In Here)

[Tom]

according to some rumours anyway and wouldn't surprise me. she could either pick some rejects or be an impartial judge. it would fit in with a lot that is in the press

I could also see them getting rid of 1 act in every category or it will just be a bog standard double elimination

[Tom4784]

It'll be a double elimination. They've gone for 16 this year again so we're gonna get a few.

[LaLaLand]

If she does then it's ****, TXF doesn't need Cheryl it's great as it is.

[Maia]

Not watching if she returns

[Locke.]

Hope this is true we need her back

[Iceman]

If she returns it gets rid of deadlock :whistle:

[Novo]

Would be amazing

[Z]

My only access to xf news is on here.. can't believe they've got 16 acts again, it felt so overcrowded last year and I felt it took away from the whole elimination part of the show having a bottom three rather than two!

[Tom4784]

I'm hoping it's something as big as a fifth judge but I can't see it happening.

[bbfan1991]

I hope it's not Cheryl returning:bawling:.

[Marsh.]

I'm guessing either...

1) The judges all swap categories, funny if Gary ended up with Louis ****e acts.

2) The judges are each given one act from each category.

3) Or they all have to choose one act to send home from their own category.

[Black Dagger]

I'd like the twist to be more wildcards... but only if we get Girl v Boy xD...

However all I see it being is... Double eliminations.

[Iceman]

I read that 4 people go home next week, bottom one in each category.....

[Callum]

I bet Jade will come back with Cheryl

[Vicky.]

If she returns it gets rid of deadlock :whistle:

Not really, she will just refuse to vote ;)

[Iceman]

Not really, she will just refuse to vote ;)

haha true..

['Conor]

eww **** Cheryl

[Doogle]

Not really, she will just refuse to vote ;)

:joker::joker:

[Lee.]

I hope its the wildcard twist like last year... it would explain all the bad decisions tonight!

[Smithy]

she won't come back, she hates simon

[Tom4784]

I don't care if it's Cheryl i just hope it isn't something as boring as a double elimination, guest judges would be nice.

[Vicky.]

My ideal twist would be scrapping the judges vote.

I dislike how they have the power to pretty much control the show.

[Doogle]

I hate the judges vote. Every year I sit there and scream at Simon (well it'll be Gary this year) when he makes the wrong decision.

[Saph]

If she returns im not watching, I hate her so much words cannot describe.

[Kerry]

Wonder what it is this time? :rolleyes:

[Smithy]

ohhhh it actually said there'd be a twist

-thought y'all were just speculating-

[Patrick]

Thought you had some good news on BB12 here.
*storms off*

[Lee.]

It HAS to be a wildcard twist again.. to make up for some of the **** decisions tonight

[Niamh.]

Cheryl Cole no doubt :/

[Kerry]

ohhhh it actually said there'd be a twist

-thought y'all were just speculating-

It said at the end. Unless I was dreaming :joker:

[Kerry]

Cheryl Cole no doubt :/

That was my first guess too

[Smithy]

It said at the end. Unless I was dreaming :joker:
Yeah but i didn see it
Cheryl Cole no doubt :/
I really don't think it will be, she's supposed to hate simon now :suspect:

[Tom4784]

It'll be a double elimination, I think we'd have heard about a potential return for Cheryl given the media interest and they wouldn't do another wild card as a Top 20 is too much.

[Marsh.]

Hopefully it's the live on air sacking of Louis Walsh after the number of hypocritically idiotic, deluded statements he came out with tonight.

It irritates me how he gets away with changing the standards of what the competition is depending on who he is talking to.

[Lee.]

It'll be a double elimination, I think we'd have heard about a potential return for Cheryl given the media interest and they wouldn't do another wild card as a Top 20 is too much.

How did they do the wildcard thing last year again?

[Niamh.]

Yeah but i didn see it

I really don't think it will be, she's supposed to hate simon now :suspect:

hhmmm Do you really believe all the ****e we're fed about X Factor?

[Smithy]

hhmmm Do you really believe all the ****e we're fed about X Factor?

Even so, if you step back and look at it, he totally he humiliated her, I doubt she'd go back to working for him

[Kerry]

Hopefully it's the live on air sacking of Louis Walsh after the number of hypocritically idiotic, deluded statements he came out with tonight.

It irritates me how he gets away with changing the standards of what the competition is depending on who he is talking to.

Final straw for me tonight with louis. He's just ripping the piss out of the show

[Marsh.]

How did they do the wildcard thing last year again?

They all chose 3 acts each and had final 12 which was bumped up to final 16 for the first time in the wildcard twist.

This year they've gone straight for the final 16.

[Marsh.]

Even so, if you step back and look at it, he totally he humiliated her, I doubt she'd go back to working for him

Not really in the end. Some critics seemed impressed by her. Maybe her appearance on US TV was better off left short and sweet, with a bit of mystery and them wondering about what else she may have done. As opposed to staying the whole season and not having much more to show lol.

[Lee.]

They all chose 3 acts each and had final 12 which was bumped up to final 16 for the first time in the wildcard twist.

This year they've gone straight for the final 16.

Damn! I'm wrong then! :sad:

[Callum]

The return of Biffa Cole no doubt

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Frankie and is being kicked off and Wagner and Katie are returning as a duo

[Jords]

Frankie and is being kicked off and Wagner and Katie are returning as a duo

:amazed:

[Niamh.]

Even so, if you step back and look at it, he totally he humiliated her, I doubt she'd go back to working for him

Yeah, unless the twist is bringing her back to win her back public support cos she'd lost it by last years show, that's just the sceptic in me to do with everything Simon does though, if it's not to do with her then maybe I'll believe the reports

[Ramsay]

Thought you had some good news on BB12 here.
*storms off*

same:bawling:

[Jordan.]

It'll be a double elimination, I think we'd have heard about a potential return for Cheryl given the media interest and they wouldn't do another wild card as a Top 20 is too much.

That would hardly be a big twist :suspect:. Then again it wouldn't be the first time for XF to over dramatise something.

[Novo]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2044333/Cheryl-Cole-jets-balmy-London-New-York-wearing-woolly-hat.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

The Queen is back in London to prepare

[Lee.]

I really do think though that the twist will involve Jade re-entering the competition.

[Kerry]

Hope it's not Cheryl. What would she do exactly? :conf:

[Kerry]

Thought you had some good news on BB12 here.
*storms off*

same:bawling:

Sorry :D

[Mystic Mock]

I wonder if there will be no elimination on sunday?

[Visage]

Cheryl Cole no doubt :/

Lord, I hope not

I really do think though that the twist will involve Jade re-entering the competition.

That would be awesome.

[Jords]

I can see it being something to do with Jade.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Hopefully queen Sophie is okay.

Get rid of one of the other girls but keep Sophie safe

[joeysteele]

Probably a double elimination, I cannot see Ms Cole being involved,I hope not anyway.

What I would like to see is a change in the voting, whereby the last 2 or 3 if its a double eviction,sing again but the phone lines are re-opened and the public then decide which act goes out.
Do away with the judges making this decision.hand the full voting powers to the public.

No more of these deadlock votes which are more likely with 4 judges rather than just 3.

[Joelle.]

If the twist involves wildcards I doubt it'll be a final 20, 16 is more than enough.

More likely the public vote to bring back one of the eliminated 15 maybe? Unlikely though.

[Kerry]

We'll probably know later. X Factor stuff always leaks :joker:

[Jords]

Lets make a new group!!!!!!!!! :amazed:

[Jords]

All the 15 rejects 1 mass super-duper-trouper group!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Visage]

All the 15 rejects 1 mass super-duper-trouper group!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

I bloody well hope not!! :joker:

[Kerry]

Lets make a new group!!!!!!!!! :amazed:

All the 15 rejects 1 mass super-duper-trouper group!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Plus the judges!!!!!!!!

[Jords]

Plus the judges!!!!!!!!

And Dermot!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kerry]

And Dermot!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:laugh2:

[Joelle.]

Plus the judges!!!!!!!!

PW-bL7dLA3Q

You mean like this? :laugh:

[Joelle.]

If it is just double eliminations, its hardly a big twist is it? Saying as they had to do them last year. So I think it'll more likely be something bigger.

[Locke.]

Guest judges each week hopefully. Would give them the chance to get Cheryl and Simon back, and fit the usuals in

[Mystic Mock]

I sadly have a feeling that there will be no eliminations next weekend.

[Callum]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2044333/Cheryl-Cole-jets-balmy-London-New-York-wearing-woolly-hat.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

The Queen is back in London to prepare

Biffa's back in the UK for The Pride of Britain Awards tonight, not X Factor.

[Mystic Mock]

Biffa's back in the UK for The Pride of Britain Awards tonight, not X Factor.

Thank Aaron.:dance:

[Patrick]

She would be the only good thing about it if she returns.

[MusicXian]

Rumour has it the twist will be Goldie coming back in a duet with Wagner and no need for a mentor because they will be so awesome.

[Tom]

I think one act will be eliminated from each category

So thats bye bye to Sophie, Nu Vibe, Craig and Johnny

They'll still be an act up so can throw in a double elimination somewhere down the line

[Kate!]

I think one act will be eliminated from each category

So thats bye bye to Sophie, Nu Vibe, Craig and Johnny

They'll still be an act up so can throw in a double elimination somewhere down the line

That would be awesome :D

I wouldn't put it past them, it would bring in loads of money with all the voting, we would be encouraged to vote for every category!!

[Locke.]

Are they doing the 7p voting on Facebook for X Factor aswell?

[Black Dagger]

Are they doing the 7p voting on Facebook for X Factor aswell?

Not that I'm aware of, sort of glad in a way, the tweenies would vote in their droves and we'd have a final 3 consisting of Nu Vibe and Frankie.

[Marc]

Cheryl or Jade/John Wilding

[camertone]

hopefully the twist is to bring jade as the wild card to the live show.

[Lewis.]

I don't think they would be able to just bring back Jade, they'd need to bring back one from each category and I really can't see that happening. I reckon It will have something to do with a triple elimination probably.

[Marc]

Maybe they'll let the public decide between 1 WC from each catagory eg. Jade v. John v. Boy/Girl v. Carolynn

[Black Dagger]

Maybe they'll let the public decide between 1 WC from each catagory eg. Jade v. John v. Boy/Girl v. Carolynn

It's been confirmed their won't be any more contestants. I do think it'll either be category swapping, which would be lame or something simple like... 'DOUBLE ELIMINATIONS'

[Ryan244]

Gamu's back ? LOL

[Mystic Mock]

Katie Waissel has returned to hit more bottom twos?

[Tom4784]

There's only three realistic options.

1. Double eliminations- I'm betting on this, it's just XF trying to build up some hype.

2. A single wildcard to be voted back - The most likely option after the eliminations, it would explain Jade Richards being left out as they'd make a fair bit from the vote to bring her back.

3. Guest Judges - A fifth impartial judge that changes every week, Simon said he'd be involved in the live shows in some way so I could see this happening.

I'm not betting on anything more then a double eviction but a guest judge would be cool.

[Lee.]

There are whispers going about on FB just now that the X Factor have been seen in Buckhaven today, which is Jades home town. Also spotted outside her local pub.

Sounds like my local paper suspects the wildcard twist too...

http://www.dunfermlinepress.com/news/roundup/articles/2011/10/04/418021-jade-back-at-college-as-xfactor-row-rages/

[Roy Mars III]

Great :rolleyes:

[Niamh.]

Melanie is better

[Mystic Mock]

Not 20 contestants as we will be having ties all over the place in the votes.

[Roy Mars III]

I can see it now, Cheryl will be back and able to pick four of the 'rejects' for a mixed category.

[Niamh.]

I can see it now, Cheryl will be back and able to pick four of the 'rejects' for a mixed category.

I'm telling you now, if that happens, then I firmly believe all that X-Factor US BS was a big publicity stunt and I for one will be tuning off :bored:

[Harry!]

If Cheryl is back I will will not watch.

[Tom4784]

It's more likely one will be voted back, I said in another thread that it's a good way to bring in more money as people will vote for Jade. I think a fifth judge would be interesting but a Top 20 ain't happening, if Cheryl is back then she'll be an impartial judge.

[Kazanne]

Just picked this up on aol.
Jade Richards will apparently not be coming back for The X Factor's live finals in this weekend's promised "big twist".

Many viewers and some celebrity fans, including Lorraine Kelly and Coronation Street's Antony Cotton, have expressed their outrage at the 21-year-old Scot's axing.

But Jade is reportedly recovering from a car accident and her mum hinted that the big twist could not be her daughter's return, saying: "They could never get her down there and ready in time."

A show source added: "Each judge already has four acts. There is no room for any more. So Jade, or any of the other acts already eliminated, won't be coming back."

Jade's fellow Scot Lorraine took to Twitter to voice her objections to Kelly Rowland's decision, writing: "Can't believe Jade didn't make it!

Corrie star Antony wrote: "Jade is the end! So sad. I'm officially sulking."

[Tom4784]

It's a double elimination then. How boring.

[Lee.]

Just picked this up on aol.
Jade Richards will apparently not be coming back for The X Factor's live finals in this weekend's promised "big twist".

Many viewers and some celebrity fans, including Lorraine Kelly and Coronation Street's Antony Cotton, have expressed their outrage at the 21-year-old Scot's axing.

But Jade is reportedly recovering from a car accident and her mum hinted that the big twist could not be her daughter's return, saying: "They could never get her down there and ready in time."

A show source added: "Each judge already has four acts. There is no room for any more. So Jade, or any of the other acts already eliminated, won't be coming back."

Jade's fellow Scot Lorraine took to Twitter to voice her objections to Kelly Rowland's decision, writing: "Can't believe Jade didn't make it!

Corrie star Antony wrote: "Jade is the end! So sad. I'm officially sulking."


Aw, that sucks. I really hope she re-auditions next year as I absolutely love her voice.

[Locke.]

What a load of crap :bored:

Can't stand the beast

[Lee.]

What a load of crap :bored:

Can't stand the beast

Can't stand her voice or can't stand the way she looks?

[MusicXian]

Or still a guest judge. Once again though why the outrage at no Jade? All 4 singers who made it through are at least as good, if not better than Jade anyway. I do think she is a good singer of course, but its nothing close to the Gamu stuff last year because the 4 through all deserved it in their own right, while Cher and definitely Katie didnt after falling apart in Judges House.

[AndyEssex1]

Not really in the end. Some critics seemed impressed by her. Maybe her appearance on US TV was better off left short and sweet, with a bit of mystery and them wondering about what else she may have done. As opposed to staying the whole season and not having much more to show lol.

I think Cheryl underestimated the respect Simon has built up for Paula Abdul in the 8 years they spent together on American Idol. Cheryl looks completely lost because Simon is sitting next to Paula and not her.

I am in no way a Cheryl hater, but Americans are fickle people and they need familiar faces. Aside from what we are reading ie "Cheryl is better than Nicole", Nicole was outstanding in Dancing With The Stars - the best ever contestant. She is known all over the States for the Pussycats, whereas Girls Aloud (sadly) never broke America. Nicole has a very compassionate side, and it feels more believable than when Cheryl cried on the program.

[Locke.]

Can't stand her voice or can't stand the way she looks?

Both.

[Iceman]

How about a guest Judge each week? Cheryl Week 1. Simon Week 2.........

[Iceman]

It's been confirmed their won't be any more contestants. I do think it'll either be category swapping, which would be lame or something simple like... 'DOUBLE ELIMINATIONS'

Has it?

[Joelle.]

Melanie is better

This.

[Kazanne]

Aw, that sucks. I really hope she re-auditions next year as I absolutely love her voice.

I liked her too:sad:

[Marsh.]

I think Cheryl underestimated the respect Simon has built up for Paula Abdul in the 8 years they spent together on American Idol. Cheryl looks completely lost because Simon is sitting next to Paula and not her.

I am in no way a Cheryl hater, but Americans are fickle people and they need familiar faces. Aside from what we are reading ie "Cheryl is better than Nicole", Nicole was outstanding in Dancing With The Stars - the best ever contestant. She is known all over the States for the Pussycats, whereas Girls Aloud (sadly) never broke America. Nicole has a very compassionate side, and it feels more believable than when Cheryl cried on the program.

I'm not surprised. She's a professional dancer. lol

[Doogle]

If there's 20 acts I will lose a lot of interest.

[Novo]

We have two beasts in the live shows already ( Sami Brooks & The Black one ) there is no room for a third one

[Andrew.]

Hmmm it could be that...

Cheryl Cole returns and mentors the Wildcard Category!?

could be wrong, most likely am.

[Mystic Mock]

We have two beasts in the live shows already ( Sami Brooks & The Black one ) there is no room for a third one

Whoes The Black one.:joker:

[Novo]

The fat stumpy one with short hair

[Roy Mars III]

We have two beasts in the live shows already ( Sami Brooks & The Black one ) there is no room for a third one

:joker:

[Doogle]

We don't need wildcards, was brilliant last year, then they upped it to 16 again this year without the wild card which is ****. But they couldn't do wild card 2 years in a row, and doing it this year is stupid. That'd bring it up to 20 ffs!

I loved Gamu, she didn't get another chance which is fair enough.
I love Jade, I don't think she should have another chance either.

[Mystic Mock]

The fat stumpy one with short hair

Are you on about Misha Bryan?:joker: I actually like her but I imagine Kelly might give her Let Me Entertain You or something to sabotage her chances.

[Lee.]

Both.

Well that figures.. you think Cher Lloyd can sing :hmph:

[Locke.]

She is much better than Jade :idc:

[Lee.]

She is much better than Jade :idc:

Hahahahajahahahahahahahaha! Erm, not quite!

[Novo]

No good comparing an unknown beast to the great Cher Lloyd who has already got a #1 hit at the age of 18.. what was Jade doing when she was 18? eating burgers and fries from the local Maccies i suspect

[Rawrbear]

Of their is going to be 20 contestants.... Imagine the breaks :'(

and they will need many double elimination lowest and a judge vote

[Lee.]

No good comparing an unknown beast to the great Cher Lloyd who has already got a #1 hit at the age of 18.. what was Jade doing when she was 18? eating burgers and fries from the local Maccies i suspect

I'm not comparing success, I'm comparing their voices, and Jade can sung, Cher can't. :hmph:

I know fine well if Jade was a size 8, pretty and had good tits n ass, you'd be loving her.

['Conor]

Melanie is better

this.

[Lee.]

Still strange rumours going around up here. I've got a feeling Jade will be in the live finals..

[rk3388]

Well that figures.. you think Cher Lloyd can sing :hmph:

:joker:
Cher will never be as good a singer as jade, no matter how much she steals from other songs and how much shes autotuned

[Smithy]

Idk if this is the "big" twist, but Tulisa was on this morning, this morning, and she said the twist this year was that whenever an act covers a song, they're allowed to put they're own spin on it, which i'd presume means they can change pretty much anything about it as long as they keep the lyrics the same :suspect:

[Lee.]

That sounds dreadful!

[MusicXian]

That's not a twist anyway as it happened previous years.

[Jords]

Covers a song? Dont they all cover songs?

[Smithy]

fine, whenever they sing a song, happy jords? :idc:

[Jords]

No, No I am not. :idc:

[Kate!]

That's a pretty crappy twist, and as has been said, it's hardly a new thing anyway.

[Visage]

Would she really have revealed the twist on This morning ?

[MusicXian]

Its definitely not the twist. Not sure if the twist will be anything exciting though. Probably a double or maybe triple elimination or some crap is about it.

[Jordan.]

Hardly a twist :suspect:

[Iceman]

have merged all Twist threads :)

[Locke.]

Thankfully Louis has pretty much confirmed that the twist is not going to be wildcards - http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1547948