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CharlieO
13-11-2011, 04:07 PM
Life is hard. I can only speak for myself but overall there are more bad times than there are good times. So why bother?

Why is it so necessary that life carries on? There is no value to it. It is just an endless cycle of in-fulfilment and I don't see the point really. Death seems a great deal more humbling, an endless nothingness, a nice long sleep.

But then that begs the question, is there something after death? If there isn't then why is life so difficult. Surely it's difficult because we are working towards something.

It is all very confusing. I would prefer to have endless nothingness after death to be honest. To have gone through life and then have more would be such a disappointment.

Marc
13-11-2011, 04:10 PM
Wow.. all the happiness in me just got drained out after reading that.

I sure hope you're born into money in your next life Charlie! You can only be as happy as you allow yourself to be, if you don't let yourself just be who you are then you'll never be happy

Marc
13-11-2011, 04:10 PM
...and obviously money makes it easier

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
13-11-2011, 04:12 PM
kmt deleting my post :hmph:

joeysteele
13-11-2011, 04:13 PM
That's a very melancholy statement CharlieO, hope you are okay and that your gloom lifts soon.

There are many great things in life, I hope you find them all round some corner soon. Whatever prompted your post,I hope you are okay and all my very best wishes to you with hopes for a happier future to come to you.

CharlieO
13-11-2011, 04:15 PM
Last edited by Marc; Today at 05:11 PM.

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CharlieO
13-11-2011, 04:15 PM
Last edited by Marc; Today at 05:11 PM.

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Marc
13-11-2011, 04:20 PM
kmt deleting my post :hmph:

your post wasn't needed :tongue:

:suspect:

and your post had a typo.. which is why scott quoted it, to make fun. so I rectified it :thumbs2:

Firewire
13-11-2011, 04:24 PM
It really makes you think though, I really get your point. I suppose it's just something that can't be answered. I'm sure in the future will be bright for you, optimism is the best.

King Gizzard
13-11-2011, 04:30 PM
Without knowing your background situation the one thing I can say is at least you're still young. Plenty of oppurtunities as you get into the 18's and 19's you just need to take them

I deffinitely think the good times are worth living

CharlieO
13-11-2011, 05:10 PM
your post wasn't needed :tongue:



and your post had a typo.. which is why scott quoted it, to make fun. so I rectified it :thumbs2:

Well that is very much appreciated then.

Josy
13-11-2011, 05:25 PM
Not to sound completely cliched here but life is exactly what you make of it, it doesn't owe you anything, yes some people do have it harder than others but that's just the way it is, if you want things to be better then it's up to you to make that happen and if you manage to do that then your life has not been pointless at all, just think of the people that have to struggle daily just to survive and you might just realise that your life is a lot better than what you first thought.

Niall
13-11-2011, 05:26 PM
The thought of nothingness after death is an utterly terrifying prospect and I struggle to understand how anyone can find solace in that.

I think that there is the whole Christian God and that but that there is only Heaven & Purgatory. I don't think an all-loving being would sentence its creations to an eternity of suffering you see.

Smithy
13-11-2011, 05:26 PM
It's always darkest before the dawn~~~

Tom
13-11-2011, 05:32 PM
I hope you become a ghost when you die. I'm gonna haunt the sh*t out of people

Life is pointless, thats just the nature of it. We're only here because of animal instinct to reproduce. Nothing more, nothing less. But its what you do with it that counts

MTVN
13-11-2011, 05:32 PM
You have a very nihilistic view on things :laugh: Sometimes I agree that life has no real point or meaning to it, not that that's necessarily a bad thing, in some ways it can offer motivation to just try your best to enjoy it, free from fear of punishment from some higher power or of what might come after, and if death and nothingness is inevitable anyway then why wish for it to hurry?

CharlieO
13-11-2011, 05:44 PM
But I don't try to see it in a negative way. Over the last two years I have tried so hard to be positive and try see light at the end of the tunnel but I just can't. I keep getting hurdle after hurdle and it is starting to seem utterly pointless. Like am I just destin to be this way and should I just stop trying. There are too many questions.

Ninastar
13-11-2011, 05:47 PM
it's hard to appreciate life when you don't even know what you want to do

CharlieO
13-11-2011, 05:52 PM
...and obviously money makes it easier

I don't think it would. My family and parents are very well off and my mum for one is just as bad as me and is always depressed and upset. Money makes the little things of happiness just less prominent so then overall makes it worse I think. Like gifts at christmas mean nothing really when you could get it whenever you wanted.

Niamh.
13-11-2011, 05:58 PM
But I don't try to see it in a negative way. Over the last two years I have tried so hard to be positive and try see light at the end of the tunnel but I just can't. I keep getting hurdle after hurdle and it is starting to seem utterly pointless. Like am I just destin to be this way and should I just stop trying. There are too many questions.

Things always seem more bleak when you're a teenager. Things will get better when you get a bit older and are out of school and doing you're own thing :hug:

Angus
13-11-2011, 06:10 PM
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Charlie, we all feel like you do sometimes. Try to put things into perspective, life would be meaningless if we didn't have the bad to compare the good to:blush:

CharlieO
14-11-2011, 01:06 PM
I can't view YT videos they are blocked in this prison :sad:

Pyramid*
14-11-2011, 01:25 PM
Things always seem more bleak when you're a teenager. Things will get better when you get a bit older and are out of school and doing you're own thing :hug:


Ain't that true. Now, I loved boarding school for example: I actually did love it..... yet I absconded twice (once ended up in a hostel in London, like a typical runaway with the bobbies finally catching up with me!! LOL ) -due to wanting to be a rebel and date a guy outside. As much as I loved it, I loathed parts of it - and the parts I hated, seemed far worse than they were.

At the time all I could ever focused on was the 'bad side'....yet even then in between that : I loved the brilliant laughs, fun, education, real life learning and independence, being allowed to do things my parents wouldn't let me do. Oh and I completely despised my parents....even though they were 7,000 miles away - absolutely hated them. Refused to take their phone calls etc, wouldn't write to them. Nothing. Like you, I didn't go to boarding school till I was 16. I actually ran away the 2nd time just as exams were starting - and refused to go back to sit them (this was back in the O-Level days).

What did that do for me? Buggar all really. I ended up finishing with the guy - came back to Scotland, no qualifications but managed to get a good job which was my saving grace. Then had to spend years at night school and then doing Open Uni studying - because of my own daftness - which didn't feel like 'daftness' then, it was a terribly confused and hard time, even amid all the fun stuff.

Charlie: you might feel like this now: you have to ride it out. It WILL make you stronger - but you won't experience that feeling until you are 'at the other end of it'. You have to try to take our word for it. It's hard, and it feels harder because it's natural for you to feel like this, it is perfectly normal.

Keep your chin up.:hug:

Black Dagger
14-11-2011, 02:22 PM
Life's what you make it, so let's make it right, let's make it right.

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14-11-2011, 02:24 PM
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14-11-2011, 02:41 PM
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Charlie, we all feel like you do sometimes. Try to put things into perspective, life would be meaningless if we didn't have the bad to compare the good to:blush:


Angus.... just watched them and how very true they are.

And I agree, if it wasn't for the bad times, we'd never appreciate the times when we have it so good.

Shaun
14-11-2011, 02:44 PM
I think nihilism is a valid way to look at life. It's just not a very fun one. Find things you're passionate for, surround yourself with interesting and good people, and lower expectations.

Stu
14-11-2011, 02:55 PM
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Say what you want about the tenants of National Socialism, Dude, but at least they had beliefs.

Nah screw Nihlism. I've never liked it. I believe even though it's basically pointless that life is inherently about fun and love and anything else is a corruption of that. Those are states we like to feel so that kind of un-poinelessnesses life [?!]. Depression, misery etc are all alternate states brought on by bad events, bad choices or mental elements that cannot be easily helped.

Most people tend to be happy by default. I like to think that's our in built factory setting.

InOne
14-11-2011, 03:26 PM
Read "The Perks Of Being A Wallflower" I've not read it but heard it's good for angsty teens.

Stu
14-11-2011, 03:28 PM
Take up smoking too. And rip the filters off the things to show how serious you are about it all.