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Novo
27-11-2011, 08:56 PM
She knew that Janet would go if she didn't vote so to save her from actually sending her home she didn't vote :bored:

fruit_cake
27-11-2011, 08:57 PM
she could at least have sent it to deadlock

Maia
27-11-2011, 08:59 PM
Should've sent it to deadlock. Absolute setup.

MusicXian
27-11-2011, 08:59 PM
It would not have gone to deadlock anyway, the judges all love Misha B more so than Janet, or shall I say the producers pulling the strings like Misha more than Janet, the judges are just reading from a script.

Novo
27-11-2011, 08:59 PM
I don't get it.. she obviously got told that Janet was going home if she didn't vote so why didn't she just vote Janet to give her a chance.. it was just a clever way of doing it

Smithy
27-11-2011, 09:00 PM
dsrealitybites Reality Bites
Dermot: "Kelly if you abstain, Janet is doomed". Kelly: "I abstain". #xfactor

:joker:

Brother Leon
27-11-2011, 09:01 PM
I respect Louis. He seems to be the only judge who will vote for one of his acts in that situation. Kelly and Cheryl before simply are cowards.

Smithy
27-11-2011, 09:01 PM
dsrealitybites Reality Bites
Dermot: "Kelly if you abstain, Janet is doomed". Kelly: "I abstain". #xfactor

:joker:

Doogle
27-11-2011, 09:02 PM
She didn't have the balls to admit she wanted Misha so she just went over the top about it and Janet didn't seem to give one ****.

Tom
27-11-2011, 09:05 PM
she could at least have sent it to deadlock

Should've sent it to deadlock. Absolute setup.

Except she couldn't send it to deadlock and Gary said he would've sent Janet home anyway

MusicXian
27-11-2011, 09:05 PM
Janet's last words were quite good. 'Can;t wait to get out of the X-Factor'... I know she will be on the tour, but she does really need to get away from XF. Remember audition, bootcamp etc.? She was beautiful, they just destryoed Janet on this show, a really talented musician. I think she should try start up a band, she has a similar vocal (though not as powerful as yet) to the lead singer of The Cranberries and she could start a similar band as she is also a songwriter (how good of one no one knows for now).

Jordan.
27-11-2011, 09:05 PM
Made no difference

MTVN
27-11-2011, 09:06 PM
Yep, trying to play the hero by refusing to vote even though she knew she was sending Janet home by doing it

MusicXian
27-11-2011, 09:07 PM
BTW Misha would have been saved against Amelia aswell. She has been the No.1 girl since Tulisa and Louis' comments for some reason. Production obviously feel she has more to offer.

I didnt get it when Tulisa said, I am keeping the one who I think can sell more albums, and sell out tours... shes been in the bottom 2 three times now FFS, the public obviously dont like her enough for that. Doubt she will be selling out any tours anytime soon. Maybe after a break from XF and learning how to come over more likeable.

Jords
27-11-2011, 09:07 PM
Cop-out! Lets axe her now.

Maia
27-11-2011, 09:08 PM
Janet's last words were quite good. 'Can;t wait to get out of the X-Factor'... I know she will be on the tour, but she does really need to get away from XF. Remember audition, bootcamp etc.? She was beautiful, they just destryoed Janet on this show, a really talented musician. I think she should try start up a band, she has a similar vocal (though not as powerful as yet) to the lead singer of The Cranberries and she could start a similar band as she is also a songwriter (how good of one no one knows for now).

Agreed. She was way too good for The X Factor. Hope she does well.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
27-11-2011, 09:08 PM
it wouldnt have gone to deadlock any gary said he would have sent misha home fou's

Novo
27-11-2011, 09:10 PM
Still not the point.. she sent Janet home by not voting why didn't she just say she was sending Janet home and do it probably.. she gets paid to do this :bored:

fruit_cake
27-11-2011, 09:11 PM
well if Gary was going to send Janet home anyway, why didn't Kelly just vote for Janet??

Adamw92
27-11-2011, 09:21 PM
Even if Gary ended up still sending Janet home, i'd much prefer to have 1 vote to stay than 0

reece(:
27-11-2011, 09:28 PM
cut her some slack, she knew gary wouldve sent janet home seems as hes in love with misha

Lozzibear
27-11-2011, 09:50 PM
Tonight has changed my opinion on her... She could have just chose Misha and let Gary have the deciding vote, rather than refusing to vote in that way... I think it is all a fix anyway with who the judges save.

abcd
27-11-2011, 09:52 PM
the only way that would have gone to deadlock is if janet was bottom of the votes, which she obviously wasnt

MusicXian
27-11-2011, 09:52 PM
Tonight has changed my opinion on her... She could have just chose Misha and let Gary have the deciding vote, rather than refusing to vote in that way... I think it is all a fix anyway with who the judges save.

Its definitely a fix no doubt about that. Judges are told who to choose anyway :spin:

fruit_cake
27-11-2011, 09:53 PM
Louis was a big supporter of Janet all the way through, it does seem fixed

MusicXian
27-11-2011, 09:54 PM
the only way that would have gone to deadlock is if janet was bottom of the votes, which she obviously wasnt

I think they just wanted rid of her and they have showed this since day, so making this go to deadlock even would have been such bs. I do also think Misha came bottom of the public vote, but judges have said so much crap about Janet and so much rave reviews about Misha for the last 5 weeks that it would have been difficult to accept them taking this to deadlock. Soon as they said Janet and Misha B2 it was obvious who was going.

Cherie
27-11-2011, 10:30 PM
Janet knew she was going, her eyes said it all, we didnt really need to go to the Judges, Kelly would have gone up in my estimation if she had sent Janet home, it was ridiculous what she did as she was sending her home anyway...silly mama.:joker:

Marc
27-11-2011, 10:49 PM
Meh.. we all know(knew?) she favours(ed?) Misha :joker:

stewart64
28-11-2011, 10:34 AM
Hasn't done her any favours, hasn't done Misha B any favours.

I suppose the judges can't admit that if Misha B gets into the bottom two she gets through 100% correct, guaranteed. Makes a complete farce of the phone in. Perhaps voters should demand their money back. Is it not conceivable that some voter liked the other four and voted for them in equal measure, yet they were one hundred percent guaranteed to be wasting their money, with the judges favouritism. Misha B is the next Aretha Franklin and you voters can get your minds educated and ****** off.

fruit_cake
28-11-2011, 10:43 AM
Hasn't done her any favours, hasn't done Misha B any favours.

I suppose the judges can't admit that if Misha B gets into the bottom two she gets through 100% correct, guaranteed. Makes a complete farce of the phone in. Perhaps voters should demand their money back. Is it not conceivable that some voter liked the other four and voted for them in equal measure, yet they were one hundred percent guaranteed to be wasting their money, with the judges favouritism. Misha B is the next Aretha Franklin and you voters can get your minds educated and ****** off.

I agree, Kelli really hasn't helped Misha by abstaining to vote. It's possible now many Janet fans will hold it against Misha, and it's not really her fault at all

Kate!
28-11-2011, 11:26 AM
BTW Misha would have been saved against Amelia aswell. She has been the No.1 girl since Tulisa and Louis' comments for some reason. Production obviously feel she has more to offer.

I didnt get it when Tulisa said, I am keeping the one who I think can sell more albums, and sell out tours... shes been in the bottom 2 three times now FFS, the public obviously dont like her enough for that. Doubt she will be selling out any tours anytime soon. Maybe after a break from XF and learning how to come over more likeable.

Exactly, the other judges have made similar comments throughout the series, are they deluded, she is not popular at all, if they manage to fluke her into the final it will spoil my enjoyment, I would much rather see Amelia, Marcus and Little Mix. Small consolation, she will be out first anyway, surely they realise this, it's pointless. As for a career after X Factor, Janet has far more chance of making it than Misha, yes Misha does have talent, but is not at all enjoyable to watch, has a horrible personality, she is like a sly snake. Urgh. Lol.

MusicXian
28-11-2011, 11:30 AM
Besides that, as said, there are ten to the dozens of Misha's out there... while Janet has quite a niche and is far more unique, yeah sure maybe its not attractive to the whole industry, and she is a bit like marmite, however there are many people out there who like this kind of style of voice and her kind of music.

Niamh.
28-11-2011, 11:35 AM
Besides that, as said, there are ten to the dozens of Misha's out there... while Janet has quite a niche and is far more unique, yeah sure maybe its not attractive to the whole industry, and she is a bit like marmite, however there are many people out there who like this kind of style of voice and her kind of music.

A marmite contestant will always do better afterwards imo over someone that everyone thinks is alright, being alright won't sell albums. I hope Janet proves the them all wrong and becomes a success. I feel really bad for how she was treated throughout the live shows, It's no wonder she was feeling ill on Saturday

fruit_cake
28-11-2011, 11:39 AM
Misha does seem a bit of a jackie of all trades but a master of none

Ammi
28-11-2011, 11:43 AM
Having watched Janet's interviews this morning, I think the direction she wants to take her music would conflict with how TXF would want to market her, so in the long run maybe it's best that she's out and can pursue her career the way she wants to....

Niamh.
28-11-2011, 11:44 AM
Having watched Janet's interviews this morning, I think the direction she wants to take her music would conflict with how TXF would want to market her, so in the long run maybe it's best that she's out and can pursue her career the way she wants to....

I think you're right Ammi, It was very obvious that the show was really taking it's toll on her as well. I hope she does well though.

Kate!
28-11-2011, 11:45 AM
Having watched Janet's interviews this morning, I think the direction she wants to take her music would conflict with how TXF would want to market her, so in the long run maybe it's best that she's out and can pursue her career the way she wants to....

Good point, hope it works out well for her.

Suze
28-11-2011, 11:50 AM
I respect Louis. He seems to be the only judge who will vote for one of his acts in that situation. Kelly and Cheryl before simply are cowards.

You have obviously not watched past X Factors then. Louis started it all off by refusing to choose between two of his acts. So do you still respect the little wishy washy judge? They get paid for doing a job, if they don't do it, then they should get pay docked and/or get the sack.

MusicXian
28-11-2011, 12:13 PM
Having watched Janet's interviews this morning, I think the direction she wants to take her music would conflict with how TXF would want to market her, so in the long run maybe it's best that she's out and can pursue her career the way she wants to....

This has been obvious since about week 3, when TXF have been trying everything in their powers to ensure Janet los her grip on the votes and slid down to the bottom 2 and they could get rid of her at the first opportunity. Obviously up until the Live Shows they probably saw Janet as a sweet singing puppet who they could manipulate, but TXF havent been afraid of saying how Janet will not be persuaded into things by the production or stylists and shined a negative light on this fact in her VTs (making her out to be argumentative and boring).

Ammi
28-11-2011, 12:23 PM
This has been obvious since about week 3, when TXF have been trying everything in their powers to ensure Janet los her grip on the votes and slid down to the bottom 2 and they could get rid of her at the first opportunity. Obviously up until the Live Shows they probably saw Janet as a sweet singing puppet who they could manipulate, but TXF havent been afraid of saying how Janet will not be persuaded into things by the production or stylists and shined a negative light on this fact in her VTs (making her out to be argumentative and boring).

I agree, at first what I loved about her was her voice..but she has showed she is her own person and very focused and determined for someone so young..she has the talent and determination to go far, TXF has served it's purpose and I don't think she needs it anymore. TXF is more for the generic artists..they dont know how to market individual artists like Janet

IheartBB
28-11-2011, 12:29 PM
I don't think it was sneaky, I think it was just plain stupid.

Janet was a goner. There was nothing Kelly could have done about it. Louis sealed her fate with the very first vote. So the smart thing for Kelly to do would have been to just send Janet home and make Misha B believe that she has complete faith in her. By not voting, what has she achieved? Janet may feel a bit better but it what about Misha, the relevant act who is still in the competition? Misha is the only person who should matter to Kelly now, and she failed to realise this when she could have just sent home the weaker act.

MusicXian
28-11-2011, 12:32 PM
Being fair to Kelly, I do think Misha is her favourite obviously, but I also do think she got on with Janet in this past week, maybe more so than before, she seemed more supportive of her this week than she has for the past 4 or 5 weeks. Misha will not mind, she knows Kelly is fully backing her, but that will not be enough anyway.

Mystic Mock
28-11-2011, 05:00 PM
Kelly was watching to much Cheryl Cole when doing this imo.

Z
29-11-2011, 01:31 AM
Kelly Rowland is only concerned about one person: herself. She didn't vote because she didn't want to damage her public image. If she did the right thing (voted for Misha to leave it up to Gary to either send Janet home or take it to deadlock) then it would have undermined Misha, and if she actually manned up to vote out Janet then it would have reinforced the rumours that she didn't like Janet and loves Misha to a ridiculous degree. Either way, she would have come off badly. The way it played out was, if you ask me, an attempt by Kelly to make her look like she cared for Janet but ultimately keep Misha. You could tell that Janet knew she was going the moment the bottom two was announced. They've been sabotaging her for most of the competition and she knows it better than anyone, I feel so unbelievably sorry for her and I hope that she regains some confidence once she's free from X Factor tour commitments.