What a disgrace!

[bbfan1991]

i47HoiM0Au8

How rude is that woman, there were kids on that tram aswell including her own and she does that. I am glad Britain is a multi cultural country and it is people like her who shame us...

[King Gizzard]

Carol Vorderman on crack

[Stu]

someone needs to knock her the **** out
tincanonastring 1 minute ago

[Pyramid*]

i47HoiM0Au8

How rude is that woman, there were kids on that tram aswell including her own and she does that. I am glad Britain is a multi cultural country and it is people like her who shame us...


Unbelievable and disgraceful.

She couldn't even say Nigeria correctly in her rant - didn't know what the country was actually called. As for her language in front of her young child.... beggars belief. Scum is all I can regard her as.

Bet she doesn't have any issue with any other culture or race when she's ordering her Tikka Masala, Kebabs, Chow Meins, Pizzas, etc.

[Novo]

That guys face behind her at around 1:10 :joker:

[King Gizzard]

Or wearing/basically using any product

[bbfan1991]

Or going abroad, bet she doesn't.

[Stu]

Her son looks like he's already primed to lead an Aryan ****ing super race.

[Novo]

That is the first thing that i thought about her son as well :joker: probably adopted

[Pyramid*]

That guys face behind her at around 1:10 :joker:


He was ready to go for her - not that I woud have blamed him tbh. It would have been so hard to restrain yourself.

Ignorant bitch of woman.

[Niamh.]

Jesus, I feel sorry for her kid :/

[Pyramid*]

Or wearing/basically using any product


Yep!!

Of course, all her clothing and foodstuffs will come from Britain - as well as all her child's clothing, footwear, toys etc...... bet she won't have any issue with buying all the stuff that's manufacutured abroad, using child labour in goddam awful conditions.

What a complete idiot of a woman.

[Chuck]

It's uncomfortable to watch.

[bbfan1991]

If she has Twitter she will probably be happy that she is currently trending and that everyone is condeming her:devil:.

[Vicky.]

****ing scum :bored:

[Pyramid*]

If she has Twitter she will probably be happy that she is currently trending and that everyone is condeming her:devil:.

Hopefully, someone will spot her and report her to the Police. Let's see how big a mouth she's got then.

[fruit_cake]

absolutely disgraceful behaviour, without a care in the world for her child or the people around her. She seems a bit drunk to me.

[bbfan1991]

Hopefully, someone will spot her and report her to the Police. Let's see how big a mouth she's got then.

Hope so, frightening that her child could end up having those views:(.

[arista]

Her son looks like he's already primed to lead an Aryan ****ing super race.



no her Lad
will reject the Nazi mother
later in his life.




Feel The Force

[arista]

Jesus, I feel sorry for her kid :/


Looks like he is used to her.




I think it will be removed from youtube-google soon

[Stu]

The official Channel 5 Big Brother YT has liked the video.

You couldn't make it up. The show is over and some coal muncher is still using it as their generic browsing account.

[Niamh.]

Looks like he is used to her.




I think it will be removed from youtube-google soon

Yeah, that's even worse, he doesn't have a hope :bored:

[arista]

Yeah, that's even worse, he doesn't have a hope :bored:


You do not know that.



I hope he Rebels after he gets older,
you never can tell the Future.

[Vicky.]

One of my mates posted this vid on FB and quoted from somewhere

A British Transport Police (BTP) spokesman said: "The video posted on YouTube and Twitter has been brought to our attention and our officers have launched an investigation.

"At present it is not entirely clear which tram stops the offence took place between and when it occurred. As a result we need anyone who witnessed this incident, or with any information that could assist our investigation – including the identity of the woman – to contact us.

"We will not tolerate racism in any form on the rail network and will do everything in our power to locate the person responsible."

Anyone with information should contact British Transport Police on Freefone 0800 40 50 40 quoting reference B6/LSA of 28/11/11.

No source, but seems about right.

[Pyramid*]

One of my mates posted this vid on FB and quoted from somewhere



No source, but seems about right.


Glad to see that. I'm pretty there will be plenty who will know her, and who are not white British racists, who will be more than happy to make an anonymous phone call, I certainly hope so.

[Jords]

Disgusting behaviour :bored:

The only 'foreigner' I have a slight issue with are the Polish/Lithuania... we have many in our town and majority (not all... I was speaking to a Latvian girl about my questionnaire for geog and she was extremely pleasant bar hardly being able to speak the language :laugh:) are very rude. There were 3 lads in the local swimming pool the other week and they kept spitting in it, twats.

[Niamh.]

You do not know that.



I hope he Rebels after he gets older,
you never can tell the Future.

That's true Arista :love:

[Niall]

Absolutely disgusting that this woman thinks it's right to act like this in a public place. By all means, express your views on immigration and migrants coming into the UK but the least she could do would be to do that in a respectful manner.

She's only acting that way too because she probably can't be arsed to get off her behind and work, but rather prefers to get benefits. People like her make me sick.

[MTVN]

Awful lady, looks like she's pissed or something, I'm glad a couple of people stood up to her

[Pyramid*]

Absolutely disgusting that this woman thinks it's right to act like this in a public place. By all means, express your views on immigration and migrants coming into the UK but the least she could do would be to do that in a respectful manner.

She's only acting that way too because she probably can't be arsed to get off her behind and work, but rather prefers to get benefits. People like her make me sick.


she does say that she works when she is asked. (whether she is to be believed or not, that's another matter!).

Wouldn't it be a hoot if her job entailed working closely with immigrants........ and they/her workplace find out about this :devil:

[Niall]

she does say that she works when she is asked. (whether she is to be believed or not, that's another matter!).

Wouldn't it be a hoot if her job entailed working closely with immigrants........ and they/her workplace find out about this :devil:

I doubt that she works to be honest. Well I don't know I'm making to many assumptions. :laugh:

It would be actually! She's just your stereotypical chav imo. I just can't stand people who hide behind migration issues to conceal their own ignorance. :bored:

[Pyramid*]

I doubt that she works to be honest. Well I don't know I'm making to many assumptions. :laugh:

It would be actually! She's just your stereotypical chav imo. I just can't stand people who hide behind migration issues to conceal their own ignorance. :bored:


I'd actually find that quite good revenge...not that she would be paid off (if indeed she is working as she stated) - but for her to have to still work in a place and be made feel deservedly uncomfortable and loathed...... as well has a possible police charge against her.

I'd rather that than expect my bliddy taxes to pay for a gobsh*te like her.

[Pyramid*]

I doubt that she works to be honest. Well I don't know I'm making to many assumptions. :laugh:

It would be actually! She's just your stereotypical chav imo. I just can't stand people who hide behind migration issues to conceal their own ignorance. :bored:


I'd actually find that quite good revenge...not that she would be paid off (if indeed she is working as she stated) - but for her to have to still work in a place and be made feel deservedly uncomfortable and loathed...... as well has a possible police charge against her.

I'd rather that that expect my bliddy taxes to pay for a gobsh*te like her.

[arista]

Awful lady, looks like she's pissed or something, I'm glad a couple of people stood up to her



Stood up - not long enough
but as she has a child on her knee
no one can touch her

[Marsh.]

Just shows what ill-educated gutter she must have crawled out from.

I was willing the guy sat behind her to smack her one, but probably best he didn't.

[Pyramid*]

Just shows what ill-educated gutter she must have crawled out from.

I was willing the guy sat behind her to smack her one, but probably best he didn't.

I don't know how he kept his temper - you see someone on the right, putting out their hand to indicate "Stay...... don't do it" type thing.

Scum, utter scum.

[Niall]

I'd actually find that quite good revenge...not that she would be paid off (if indeed she is working as she stated) - but for her to have to still work in a place and be made feel deservedly uncomfortable and loathed...... as well has a possible police charge against her.

I'd rather that than expect my bliddy taxes to pay for a gobsh*te like her.

I agree 100%. :D

[MTVN]

Stood up - not long enough
but as she has a child on her knee
no one can touch her

Someone should have given her a slap

[Black Dagger]

What a ****ing bitch.

I wish #Team Nigeria punched her in her face, I would have done had she not been with child.

[Marsh.]

The worst bit is she seems to lump "black people" in one pot as though there's two races in the world; white and black. What an ignorant moron.

It's one thing to have strong views on immigration, but for god sake this chav doesn't even know what she's talking about. Getting angry about something she doesn't understand. I think she was ready for using the "n" word when she was trying to say Nigeria, that's the point the man behind her stood up.

[InOne]

She seemed high and drunk

Crazy bint :bored:

[Pyramid*]

Someone should have given her a slap

Watch the very end, the white lady with the black hair who tells her to shut up... she's got her fist ready.

Pity she didn't just bloody well lamp her.

[Jordan.]

What a horrible bitch. It was like watching an episode of Jeremy Kyle after a few budget cuts.

[arista]

Someone should have given her a slap


What about the Toddler
she would have dropped him and gone into War Fight Mode

[Niamh.]

On a side note, she looks like an angrier version of Little Mo from Eastenders

[MTVN]

That vids getting so many views, new comments literally ever second, I opened it for about 5 secs and it said "23 new comments since you started watching"

[Pyramid*]

What about the Toddler
she would have dropped him and gone into War Fight Mode

Then perhaps Social Services might have got involved, which all things considered: wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing: she clearly is happy for her child to be dragged up, surrounding by constant expletives and learning to hate all that is not pure British white.

[arista]

Then perhaps Social Services might have got involved, which all things considered: wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing: she clearly is happy for her child to be dragged up, surrounding by constant expletives and learning to hate all that is not pure British white.


No its a Police Matter

[Pyramid*]

No its a Police Matter

I'm aware of that. It's 2 seperate issues: her racist behaviour and the environment she is bringing her child up in/what he is being taught.

[Doogle]

And the future generation will be just as bad if not worse with scummy mothers like her.

Absolutely no reason for that, stupid woman has shown herself up, I hope she loses those kids they deserve a proper environment to grow up in.

[Jack_]

Let's have her arrested and then deported and/or forced to work amongst people of an ethnic minority, perhaps then her bigoted, ignorant views will disappear and she'll adjust herself to 21st century Britain. As for that poor child of hers who will no doubt grow up brainwashed with this abhorrent bile that his poor excuse for a mother is expressing, Social Services should step in and remove him and place him into a family whom I'm sure will not inflict such ill-educated crap upon him.

Her shouting 'My British country' is laughable also, because no love, your type is not welcome in Britain. **** off.

[King Gizzard]

She's been arrested

[Pyramid*]

And the future generation will be just as bad if not worse with scummy mothers like her.

Absolutely no reason for that, stupid woman has shown herself up, I hope she loses those kids they deserve a proper environment to grow up in.

Let's be honest: when a child so young and is taking all this in, the child is taught that that is normal behaviour - (despite it actually being a criminal offence) - so if they young 'un is raise like that - he could very easily fall into the same bigotted, racist scum that his mother is - all too easily.

When you think of the good, kind, decent people out there who are desperate for a dearly longed for child: and there's scum like this raising our future generations: it's heartbreaking.

[Marsh.]

Someone should dig into her family history, no doubt at some point she'll find some foreign blood in her veins.

Where does she think her clothes come from? Or a large majority of the food she buys?

[Pyramid*]

She's been arrested

Where did you find that out Nathan?. Good on the cops, good work if it's true, especially when the vid was only up since yesterday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15923875

[arista]

I'm aware of that. It's 2 seperate issues: her racist behaviour and the environment she is bringing her child up in/what he is being taught.


We do not know how the Child is brought up
all you have
is her Angry Rude Shouting on the tube.


Just the Police are needed
No other Complex divisions

[King Gizzard]

Journalists on Twitter breaking it

[bbfan1991]

Yeah she has definitely been arrested just saw a tweet on Twitter about it on her trend. Good!

[King Gizzard]

28 November 2011 Last updated at 17:35

Arrest over video of racist rant on Croydon to Wimbledon tram
Woman in the tram The clip shows a woman swearing at passengers on the tram

A woman has been arrested after an online video apparently showed a woman abusing ethnic minority passengers on a packed south London tram.

The clip, viewed more than 10,600 times since being uploaded to YouTube on Sunday, shows a woman sitting with a child, shouting at fellow passengers.

British Transport Police said a woman, 34, had been arrested on suspicion of a racially-aggravated offence.

The incident happened on the Croydon to Wimbledon Tramlink route.

Police are yet to clarify exactly where or when the incident happened.

In the online clip, the woman confronts several passengers, saying: "You are not British". She then starts swearing.

When one passenger asks her to mind her language, saying "there are little kids on the tram", the woman points to the child on her lap and says "I've got a little kid here".

The woman then says: "Go back to where you come from".
'Not entirely clear'

In the video she then starts shouting at the woman who asked her not to swear, before another passenger intervenes, saying: "I am English, what have you got to say to me?"

A British Transport Police spokesman said: "The video posted on YouTube and Twitter has been brought to our attention and our officers have launched an investigation.

"At present it is not entirely clear which tram stops the offence took place between and when it occurred.

"As a result, we need anyone who witnessed this incident, or with any information that could assist our investigation - including the identity of the woman - to contact us.

"We will not tolerate racism in any form on the rail network and will do everything in our power to locate the person responsible."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15923875

[Pyramid*]

Arrest over video of racist rant on Croydon to Wimbledon tram

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/56983000/jpg/_56983345_tram_woman304.jpg The clip shows a woman swearing at passengers on the tram
A woman has been arrested after an online video apparently showed a woman abusing ethnic minority passengers on a packed south London tram.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15923875

[King Gizzard]

There's a fine line between free speech and racism/offense and she sailed past it

[Pyramid*]

We do not know how the Child is brought up
all you have
is her Angry Rude Shouting on the tube.


Just the Police are needed
No other Complex divisions

I disagree.

She's quite happy to sit there slinging abuse at people, cursing to high heaven. If she's happy to do that in public, you think she's all sweetness and light, and teaching her boy not to do these things, behind closed doors?

Nope, far as I'm concerned: she needs to be monitored by Soc Serv to ensure she's not bringing her son up to act in the same criminal manner.

[bbfan1991]

She slurred her words a few times, vile rant and the silence of some people was the most saddest thing in the video...

[InOne]

She looks abit like that woman who was in Bad Girls, the one who hated Catholics

[Marsh.]

Just watching it on youtube and my god, the comments section is literally continuously scrolling down the page; message after message. lol. Never seen that before.

[Pyramid*]

She slurred her words a few times, vile rant and the silence of some people was the most saddest thing in the video...

Drunk / drugged possibly, and in charge of a minor - shame someone didn't make a citizens arrest last night and the police could have tested her while they were at it.

I agree re the silence of many others on the train: incuding the whites - the other lady from London only spoke up when her own child was awakened.

[bbfan1991]

I bet some of the people who liked the video on YouTube are BNP members looking to recruit her:bored::mad:.

[bbfan1991]

Sorry I beat you to it Marc:p:(.

[Pyramid*]

I bet some of the people who liked the video on YouTube are BNP members looking to recruit her:bored::mad:.

Oh you can be sure she'll do down a storm with the BNP etc..... goddam reprobates.

[Marc]

Bloody joke. This women deserves to have her kid taken off of her, he's only going to grow up just like his racist b**ch mother :bored:

[arista]

I disagree.

She's quite happy to sit there slinging abuse at people, cursing to high heaven. If she's happy to do that in public, you think she's all sweetness and light, and teaching her boy not to do these things, behind closed doors?

Nope, far as I'm concerned: she needs to be monitored by Soc Serv to ensure she's not bringing her son up to act in the same criminal manner.



No the son can go with her nan
while she is locked up for a while.

[arista]

Just on ITV1 London Local News.

[Marc]

Sorry I beat you to it Marc:p:(.

LOL no worries :tongue: I was just in a rage when I made the thread it didn't occur to me that anybody else would have made it :joker:

[MTVN]

In fairness, as vile as this woman is, I think we should remember she's easily the exception and not the norm, and that we've actually come a long way in tackling racism over the last few decades

[bbfan1991]

LOL no worries :tongue: I was just in a rage when I made the thread it didn't occur to me that anybody else would have made it :joker:

Ha Ha best to vent it out:D.

Arista what about if some people close to that woman have the same views? I would guess the majority would be horrified but there are still some prehistoric attitudes around even now..

[arista]

Ha Ha best to vent it out:D.

Arista what about if some people close to that woman have the same views? I would guess the majority would be horrified but there are still some prehistoric attitudes around even now..



Then its a Gang.

She must have a reason to be like that

[bbfan1991]

In fairness, as vile as this woman is, I think we should remember she's easily the exception and not the norm, and that we've actually come a long way in tackling racism over the last few decades

It has actually happened at the time when it is kicking off in football too over a few incidents, racism will be back at the top of the agenda where it belongs.

[Pyramid*]

No the son can go with her nan
while she is locked up for a while.

Who is to say her mother is alive or has any connection with her (or the child). Who is to say 'nan' isn't the one who brought and raised the daughter to be such a hateful, closed minded racist?

Lots of assumptions going on there Arista.

[Benjamin]

She's been arrested.

[King Gizzard]

Thanks for the info Captain Late

[Doogle]

Thanks for the info Captain Late

:joker::joker::joker:

[Pyramid*]

She's been arrested.

:o

NO!!! Really !!! LOL.....

:D

(if you scroll down a few posts...you'll see why I'm laughing)

[arista]

Who is to say her mother is alive or has any connection with her (or the child). Who is to say 'nan' isn't the one who brought and raised the daughter to be such a hateful, closed minded racist?

Lots of assumptions going on there Arista.


Sure if she has a Nan.



Its on Sky Ch 993 now
ITV1 London local News

its gone viral.


She is a 34 year old Croydon Woman.

[Sticks]

Wither Voltaire?

Anyway what about the person taking this footage? They were filming without permission from the owners of the tram system and placed the video on Youtube without written permission from those involved.

ERGO this video should not be allowed as evidence, and the person taking it has a case to answer

Meanwhile there has only ever been one racial group that ever gave me problems, my own.

I firmly believe in the multi cultural multi everything society

[Benjamin]

I was in another thread, they must have got merged. Not all of us sit here every second of the day watching threads. :tongue:

[bbfan1991]

She's been arrested.

Take her down to the TIBB cells:devil:.

[arista]

Wither Voltaire?

Anyway what about the person taking this footage? They were filming without permission from the owners of the tram system and placed the video on Youtube without written permission from those involved.

ERGO this video should not be allowed as evidence, and the person taking it has a case to answer

Meanwhile there has only ever been one racial group that ever gave me problems, my own.

I firmly believe in the multi cultural multi everything society


Mobile Phone Camera - its normal these days
now part of the police Arrest.

[Doogle]

I don't know what to think about the filming, the person knew putting this online was just going to cause the woman to be arrested which isn't a bad thing but at the same time, they shouldn't really have filmed it/uploaded it anyway.

[Sticks]

I raise the issue because of the problems photographers face when certain officials claim it is unlawful to take pictures in a public place and cite terrorism.

Some years back a tourist from the continent was forced to delete all his photos when he was photographing a bus station in London with his son. The officials told him he was not allowed to film anything related to transport as a matter of security

[Sticks]

I don't know what to think about the filming, the person knew putting this online was just going to cause the woman to be arrested which isn't a bad thing but at the same time, they shouldn't really have filmed it/uploaded it anyway.

and what about the fact they were infringing the privacy of a minor, i.e the child on her lap. No blurred face there! :mad:

The person who filmed this must be arrested too.

[Doogle]

and what about the fact they were infringing the privacy of a minor, i.e the child on her lap. No blurred face there! :mad:

The person who filmed this must be arrested too.

Oh true, I understand the woman herself being shown but this was a bit careless, considering people could easily recognise anyone in that video and half of them might not know the video was online until now/some might not know at all.

In today's society with such strong privacy rules this won't end well for the person filming either I think.

[lostalex]

All the comments about how racist and ignorant america is and all the "only in america" comments i've seen on here....

I just have to sit back and LMFAO.

hypocrites.

[MTVN]

All the comments about how racist and ignorant america is and all the "only in america" comments i've seen on here....

I just have to sit back and LMFAO.

hypocrites.

ffs do you always have to do this?

[arista]

All the comments about how racist and ignorant america is and all the "only in america" comments i've seen on here....

I just have to sit back and LMFAO.

hypocrites.


But she is a Rare one.

[lostalex]

ffs do you always have to do this?

do what?

[lostalex]

But she is a Rare one.

Rare? You ain't fooling me dude. I know enuf about the BNP and EDL to know this is NOT rare in England.

[Doogle]

This is absolutely nothing to do with America, and why would you laugh at this or anything to do with this? :crazy:

[MTVN]

do what?

Seize on a news story to try and tie it into your "America is better than you" agenda

[lostalex]

This is absolutely nothing to do with America, and why would you laugh at this or anything to do with this? :crazy:

i said clearly i'm laughing at the hypocrisy of all the people that if this was on a new york subway, they'd be saying "only in america". Did you read my comment?

[lostalex]

Seize on a news story to try and tie it into your "America is better than you" agenda


you used quotes "america is better than you" please find one thread where you are quoting that from?? i've never said that. Stop lying please.

[MTVN]

Rare? You ain't fooling me dude. I know enuf about the BNP and EDL to know this is NOT rare in England.

What about them? The BNP are an incredibly marginalised group in British politics who are becoming increasingly irrelevant. Far-right and racist attitudes are far more prevalent and on the increase in other European countries more than they are in Britain, look at France where there effective equivalent of the BNP, Le Pen, are actually becoming a serious contender and force to be reckoned with in the political world

[Doogle]

Hardly hypocrites, and no we would not be saying only in America, you have no proof of that. We know full well there are people in our country like this.

[MTVN]

you used quotes "america is better than you" please find one thread where you are quoting that from?? i've never said that. Stop lying please.

Yeah it's called paraphrasing, I just don't understand why you seem to think everything is a competition between America and Britain

[lostalex]

Yeah it's called paraphrasing, I just don't understand why you seem to think everything is a competition between America and Britain

ummm, when did i say it was a competition? please stop projecting your insecurities on me. I've simply pointed out all the posts where people think that it's Okay to generalize about American's being racist, when clearly UK is just as racist.

[Pyramid*]

Rare? You ain't fooling me dude. I know enuf about the BNP and EDL to know this is NOT rare in England.

Lost Alex, given that you come from the land whereby the KKK originated and still has it's feet firmly placed in the Klan and other white supremist groups : I really don't think you're any position to spout about the UK and any such similar organisations.

Apart from which: it might have escaped your notice but this isnt a thread about the Brits vs America.

As for your accusation of 'hypocrites'.... I cannot see one person on this forum who has backed the London female on the tram for her behaviour: not one.

[arista]

Now on BBC London Local News.

[Pyramid*]

ummm, when did i say it was a competition? please stop projecting your insecurities on me. I've simply pointed out all the posts where people think that it's Okay to generalize about American's being racist, when clearly UK is just as racist.

You're out of order lostalex.

this isn't about America. It's about something that happened here in the UK, on a tram in Croydon.

You are making an assumption on many here in the UK, based on a clip of one (ONE) woman's bigoted and racist rant. One. Not one thousand, not one million - ONE woman.

[MTVN]

ummm, when did i say it was a competition? please stop projecting your insecurities on me. I've simply pointed out all the posts where people think that it's Okay to generalize about American's being racist, when clearly UK is just as racist.

Well you seem to think it is; "haha you're racist too". And err what insecurities have I displayed here?

[arista]

Rare? You ain't fooling me dude. I know enuf about the BNP and EDL to know this is NOT rare in England.


So Do I
they are not mainstream here in the UK.



I have been in America
You have the Evil Types that murder over Race.

[lostalex]

Lost Alex, given that you come from the land whereby the KKK originated and still has it's feet firmly placed in the Klan and other white supremist groups : I really don't think you're any position to spout about the UK and any such similar organisations.

Apart from which: it might have escaped your notice but this isnt a thread about the Brits vs America.

As for your accusation of 'hypocrites'.... I cannot see one person on this forum who has backed the London female on the tram for her behaviour: not one.

and where did the people of the KKK originate?? Oh yea, the UK lol

who created slavery in the Southern US? the British.

Why do you think you have a leg to stand on?? You wanna talk history? sorry, the UK has no where to hide in this debate., LEt's talk about how the UK supported the south in the civil war then..

I never said it was about Brits vs. America, i don't know why you perceive it that way.

[Pyramid*]

Well you seem to think it is; "haha you're racist too". And err what insecurities have I displayed here?


Maybe because you didn't bring America into it.:conf:

How very dare you leave them out MTVN. How very dare you ! ;)

:D

[arista]

"who created slavery in the Southern US? the British."


Yes but you are going back 300 years ago or more.


In America in the 1960's
you were like South Africa was.

[lostalex]

So Do I
they are not mainstream here in the UK.



I have been in America
You have the Evil Types that murder over Race.

we do? well so does britain, and norway, and france, and china, what's your point?? every country has racist murderers...

again, you are trying to imply that America is more racist than europe or other countries/continents...
You are proving my point.

[Doogle]

Why did you just come into this thread to moan about the British again? How utterly pathetic. No one in here had mentioned it before you and it was completely irrelevant; your accusations were also entirely untrue. No one would say it was "only in America" that it happens in if this was in America, so really you've just come in, called us hypocrites and started a Britain vs America argument.

[Pyramid*]

and where did the people of the KKK originate?? Oh yea, the UK lol

who created slavery in the Southern US? the British.

Why do you think you have a leg to stand on?? You wanna talk history? sorry, the UK has no where to hide in this debate., LEt's talk about how the UK supported the south in the civil war then..

I never said it was about Brits vs. America, i don't know why you perceive it that way.

First KKK started in deep South (america) mid 1800's iirc. ;)



edit; rst KKK
The first Klan was founded in 1865 in Pulaski, Tennessee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulaski,_Tennessee), as a terrorist organization (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism)[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan#cite_note-Economist20110402-9) by veterans of the Confederate Army (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_States_Army).[15] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan#cite_note-autogenerated1-14) They named it after the Greek word kuklos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuklos), which means circle. The name means "Circle of Brothers."[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan#cite_note-15)



oh look........ another little nugget about Pulaski, Tennesse, USA.

It was named to honor the Polish-born American Revolutionary War hero Kazimierz Pułaski (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazimierz_Pu%C5%82aski). Pulaski is most well known for being the birthplace of the Ku Klux Klan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan).

In fact - it couldn't be further from America - it's about an incident that happened in the UK and our feeling on it.
How about getting back on topic. This isn't about America. If you want to discuss that - maybe open your own thread and stop hijacking this one.

[lostalex]

"who created slavery in the Southern US? the British."


Yes but you are going back 300 years ago or more.


In America in the 1960's
you were like South Africa was.

LOl,, and who created aprteid in south africa too?/ the BRITISH!!!. so what exactly is your point??

Maybe your starting to see the pattern here... all the places that had the worst racism.,, seem to come from Britain.. why is that??? think.

[arista]

we do? well so does britain, and norway, and france, and china, what's your point?? every country has racist murderers...

again, you are trying to imply that America is more racist than europe or other countries/continents...
You are proving my point.


Your Points are off topic to this thread


I hope a fair Mod sorts you out

[arista]

LOl,, and who created aprteid in south africa too?/ the BRITISH!!!. so what exactly is your point??

Maybe your starting to see the pattern here... all the places that had the worst racism.,, seem to come from Britain.. why is that??? think.


No they were Dutch


Get back to School

[lostalex]

Your Points are off topic to this thread


I hope a fair Mod sorts you out
a "fair" mod would see that i'm making valid intelligent points, and i'm not breaking any forum rules.

[arista]

a "fair" mod would see that i'm making valid intelligent points, and i'm not breaking any forum rules.


This thread is about Croydon London
a Rude Woman now arrested


Its not about Yanks

[Pyramid*]

Your Points are off topic to this thread


I hope a fair Mod sorts you out

Seconded Arista.


No they were Dutch


Get back to School

:D

(Dutch boars??)

[lostalex]

No they were Dutch


Get back to School

umm, they don't speak Dutch in SA, they speak English, for a reason!

Just like in Jamaica they speak English too, i wonder how did a whole community of black people get on an island in the carribean speaking english? oh that's right, they were slaves, they speak english because british boats stole them from africa, put them on an island, and when the white british masters lost control they fled. that's how black people got to the carribean, and that's why they speak english.

[Benjamin]

No offence all of you but why are we discussing the USA? It has nothing to do with this topic.

[lostalex]

This thread is about Croydon London
a Rude Woman now arrested


Its not about Yanks

but you engaged me on this topic, so i've responded.

[Pyramid*]

umm, they don't speak Dutch in SA, they speak English, for a reason!

Just like in Jamaica they speak English too, i wonder how did a whole community of black people get on an island in the carribean speaking english? oh that's right, they were slaves, they speak english because british boats stole them from africa, put them on an island, and when the white british masters lost control they fled. that's how black people got to the carribean, and that's why they speak english.

Wrong (again).

English, dutch and Afrikaans is spoken.

I cant help feel that you're starting to embarrass yourself, and in no small way either.

[Doogle]

No offence all of you but why are we discussing the USA? It has nothing to do with this topic.

Because lostalex came into the thread, called us hypocrites and went on about how the UK is full of racists or something.

[MTVN]

Ok this has gone on long enough, and lostalex I'm sick of you derailing threads like this, if you really want to talk about British history then start a new thread, but from now on any off-topic posts will be deleted and maybe infracted.

[Pyramid*]

Because lostalex came into the thread, called us hypocrites and went on about how the UK is full of racists or something.

That about sums it up.

Now... back to the thread.

I didn't see the news - did anyone?

Arista, how was the story covered? I tried switching but didn't catch it.

[Doogle]

I didn't see it on BBC News, I asked mum to put it on but if there was something I must have missed it.

[Pyramid*]

Ok this has gone on long enough, and lostalex I'm sick of you derailing threads like this, if you really want to talk about British history then start a new thread, but from now on any off-topic posts will be deleted and maybe infracted.

I didn't see it on BBC News, I asked mum to put it on but if there was something I must have missed it.


I tried 3 different channels - to catch the Regional news - and must have missed it each time.

[Doogle]

Hrm perhaps it might be mentioned tomorrow?

BBC Breakfast might mention it, they tend to mention similar things in the mornings.

[Niall]

I wish I saw the news report on it.

God I love YouTube for giving twats like this their comeuppance. :love:

[Pyramid*]

I wish I saw the news report on it.

God I love YouTube for giving twats like this their comeuppance. :love:

I'm impressed with the speed in which they arrested her.

[fruit_cake]

what on earth was she thinking? she must have been drunk or on drugs

[lime]

Wrong (again).

English, dutch and Afrikaans is spoken.

I cant help feel that you're starting to embarrass yourself, and in no small way either.

Correct Pyramid
As a SA Boer my first language is Afrikaans.Some of my older relatives have very limited English.

[Pyramid*]

what on earth was she thinking? she must have been drunk or on drugs

I can say hand on heart that at given stages of my life: I have been under the influence of one, other or both - and never once did it produce such racist, venomous hatred for another human being in the way it did with her.

I know we aren't all the same: but I find it hard to believe that such clear hatred would be spat out in the way she did, because she must have been under the influence. It's no excuse, regardless.

[arista]

what on earth was she thinking? she must have been drunk or on drugs


Yes could be.

[Pyramid*]

Correct Pyramid
As a SA Boer my first language is Afrikaans.Some of my older relatives have very limited English.

Boer...that's the correct spelling. I used 'boar' earlier on. (I used to date a lad when I was a teenager in Saudi, who was a SA Boer. Bloody gorgeous he was too). Jan Van Der Laan. Scrumptious guy.:blush:

Sorry.. I disgress.

On the subject of languages - I noticed how 'well spoken' those that the women in the tram was addressing, in comparison to her own way of speaking..... completely showed her up at every turn.

[lime]

what on earth was she thinking? she must have been drunk or on drugs

Yeah she does look like she is on coke or something.Her jaw movements are like she is chewing on a piece of cardboard.
The most worrying thing for me is not that she is an ignorant fool,but that the child doesn't even flinch.Poor lad seems used to her rants.

[arista]

I didn't see it on BBC News, I asked mum to put it on but if there was something I must have missed it.


It was on ITV1 London News
then
BBC London News

Its a Local News story
but could become Front page.

[fruit_cake]

something must have happened to provoke her though? not that that's an excuse but we don't see the whole story from start to finish, it begins in mid-rant

[Doogle]

Oh, I see.

I wouldn't be surprised if we see it on the main news.

[MTVN]

something must have happened to provoke her though? not that that's an excuse but we don't see the whole story from start to finish, it begins in mid-rant

I don't think so, it's probable that she's just a racist, saw there were a fair few people of other nationalities/races and went off on one

[Sticks]

And the issue of secretly filming a minor and putting it up on YouTube without the consent of the parents? :nono:

[Pyramid*]

Yeah she does look like she is on coke or something.Her jaw movements are like she is chewing on a piece of cardboard.
The most worrying thing for me is not that she is an ignorant fool,but that the child doesn't even flinch.Poor lad seems used to her rants.


I think (?) Niahm said much the same thing earlier in the thread: that was the real concerning part of it: the child was completely unfazed by her ranting..... just shocking.

[Pyramid*]

And the issue of secretly filming a minor and putting it up on YouTube without the consent of the parents? :nono:


Far as I'm concerned, given that she was committing a criminal act - to try to hide that because the child was filmed - is pretty petty imo. Hundreds of thousands of clips are on youtube of youngsters, and you can be sure that their parents haven't consented to them.

[Sticks]

The news agencies reporting this are rightly hiding the child's face.

The poster of this video did not

A clear invasion of this child's privacy

[fruit_cake]

Far as I'm concerned, given that she was committing a criminal act - to try to hide that because the child was filmed - is pretty petty imo. Hundreds of thousands of clips are on youtube of youngsters, and you can be sure that their parents haven't consented to them.

people have a right to be able to get on a public tram and not be filmed by someone though, especially people with children

[Pyramid*]

The news agencies reporting this are rightly hiding the child's face.

The poster of this video did not

A clear invasion of this child's privacy

the news agencies are correct to do so as they are obliged to meet with regulations and legislation to ensure they follow such practices.

I do not believe that the poster of this video should be taken to task - in any way, shape or form. They were filming a criminal act taking place.

If that's all that's needed to protect criminals, they just need to ensure they have a young child to hand at all times.

[MTVN]

Can't say I'll lose sleep over the kid not having his face blurred, people find themselves filmed unwittingly all the time

[Pyramid*]

people have a right to be able to get on a public tram and not be filmed by someone though, especially people with children

People have the right to get on a tram, and not be verbally abused - nor have their own children (the white woman) disturbed due to some nutcase going off on a racist and bigotted rant.

[Pyramid*]

Can't say I'll lose sleep over the kid not having his face blurred, people find themselves filmed unwittingly all the time

Me neither. Not one bit.

[fruit_cake]

People have the right to get on a tram, and not be verbally abused - nor have their own children (the white woman) disturbed due to some nutcase going off on a racist and bigotted rant.

oh I agree with you, I just wondered if perhaps the person filming had maybe been filming her and her child without her permission and she objected to it, leading to the racist rant. We don't see the whole story in that clip imo

[Niamh.]

oh I agree with you, I just wondered if perhaps the person filming had maybe been filming her and her child without her permission and she objected to it, leading to the racist rant. We don't see the whole story in that clip imo

It seemed like a general rant though, she didn't seem to be directing it anyone in particular, which would suggest that no body had provoked her.

[Pyramid*]

oh I agree with you, I just wondered if perhaps the person filming had maybe been filming her and her child without her permission and she objected to it, leading to the racist rant. We don't see the whole story in that clip imo

I doubt very much that the rant came about because the woman in question was sitting there quietly, minding her own business and was being filmed - and objected to it.

I'm pretty sure that the reason it was being filmed was as proof and evidence of how vile a racist she was being.

[MTVN]

I think they probably started filming her after she started going off on one, which is why the clip starts while she's already ranting away

[Pyramid*]

It seemed like a general rant though, she didn't seem to be directing it anyone in particular, which would suggest that no body had provoked her.

This. She mentioned Poles, Black and mixed up Nigg*r and Nigeria and referred to the train being full of blacks, the only way she could have directed her insults to encompass all non white Brits was if everyone who fell into that category were all filming her for no apparent reason.

[fruit_cake]

she says 'what's this country coming too' at the beginning..it may be a referrence to something that had just taken place

[fruit_cake]

the other unusual thing is that there is nobody sitting next to her, yet the tram is completely full

[Pyramid*]

she says 'what's this country coming too' at the beginning..it may be a referrence to something that had just taken place

the other unusual thing is that there is nobody sitting next to her, yet the tram is completely full

Have you considered that perhaps a non white British person wanted to sit there and that's when she went off on her rant....and that explain why no one was sitting next to her? Not even the white woman with the child who pulled her up also.

That suggests to me that even a white woman didn't want to sit next to her. I can understand why.

[Niamh.]

the other unusual thing is that there is nobody sitting next to her, yet the tram is completely full

lol, do you wonder why? :joker:

[Mystic Mock]

Shes a disgrace as she could have caught her son in a violent attack,but I did find it funny when she went your not English your black.:hugesmile:

[fruit_cake]

Have you considered that perhaps a non white British person wanted to sit there and that's when she went off on her rant....and that explain why no one was sitting next to her?

lol, do you wonder why? :joker:

I guess you're probably both right

[Maia]

What a silly woman.

[Ramsay]

one of the comments
''Davina McCall has gone downhill''
I lol-ed

[arista]

It may be debated on Ch5's Wright Stuff
Tomorrow morning
as Matt Wright is from Croydon.

[Pyramid*]

Shes a disgrace as she could have caught her son in a violent attack,but I did find it funny when she went your not English your black.:hugesmile:

Shows the level of sheer ignorance eh.... I loved hearing the black women tell her she was in fact, British!! Also loved the white English woman getting right in her face and telling her, "I'm English, what've got to say to me, nothing .....so ******* up". :devil:

[Mystic Mock]

Shows the level of sheer ignorance eh.... I loved hearing the black women tell her she was in fact, British!! Also loved the white English woman getting right in her face and telling her, "I'm English, what've got to say to me, nothing .....so ******* up". :devil:

Yeah that was funny lol,the racist woman though sounded like a gobby chav to me,I really wouldnt be surprised if she was apart of the UK riots.

[Pyramid*]

Yeah that was funny lol,the racist woman though sounded like a gobby chav to me,I really wouldnt be surprised if she was apart of the UK riots.

Probably nicking the very best Sony brown goods, made in the Far East.

Bet she owns an XBox or PS.... ;)

[Mystic Mock]

Probably nicking the very best Sony brown goods, made in the Far East.

Bet she owns an XBox or PS.... ;)

That wouldnt surprise me as racists normally do contradict themselves.:joker:

[Pyramid*]

That wouldnt surprise me as racists normally do contradict themselves.:joker:

She'd probably think that telling her that she has brown goods in her home is an insult. :crazy:

[Mystic Mock]

She'd probably think that telling her that she has brown goods in her home is an insult. :crazy:

Probably Pyramid,especially with all the apprently blacks and browns on the tram.

[Harry!]

This vido is dispicable behond belief, that woman should be ashamed of herself. This really is dam right lowest of the low. I am not racist and I see people with different faiths every day, some are friends. People like this should be ashamed of themselves

[Harry!]

@LewisCPSLewis James Brown
Maybe the woman on the tram should have just shook hands with everyone once they reached their destination, eh @SeppBlatter?
35 minutes ago

Somebody's Tweet.

[MTVN]

@LewisCPSLewis James Brown
Maybe the woman on the tram should have just shook hands with everyone once they reached their destination, eh @SeppBlatter?
35 minutes ago

Somebody's Tweet.

:joker:

[Smithy]

I would have slapped that bitch so hard :bored:

She's gonna end up like the woman who put the cat in the bin now, hate mail, won't be able to go out etc

she deserves it too

[Vicky.]

Just shows what ill-educated gutter she must have crawled out from.

I was willing the guy sat behind her to smack her one, but probably best he didn't.

I was actually thinking that.

He might well have if her kid wasnt there. And no-one could really blame him for it tbh

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

she deserves to die honestly i hope somebody kicks the ****ing **** out of her

that kid is gonna end up so ****ed up with her as his mother

[Jords]

Its being flooded on FB now.

[GypsyGoth]

I think she is mentally unwell.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

She looks abit like that woman who was in Bad Girls, the one who hated Catholics

pat :lovedup:

she liked arun so she wasnt racist :hmph:

[Glenn.]

She sounds drunk or drugged.

[arista]

She sounds drunk or drugged.


Well the 34 year old was arrested
so the Transport Police
should find out the truth.



I am amazed the video is still on youtube-google.

[Jessica.]

Disgusting. :bored:

[Callum]

What a despicable human being, nothing can justify her actions in that video. A truly vile person who defines the phrase "scum". I bet her parents are ashamed to have brought up such a nasty, horrid ignorant woman.

I feel sorry for the poor child though, he may even be scarred for life because no doubt she's just as horrible at home. Social Services should take him away from her immediately.

[Chuck]

I wonder if the Daily Mail is gonna say something like: "Mother has her child taken off of her for having an opinion".

[Pyramid*]

I wonder if the Daily Mail is gonna say something like: "Mother has her child taken off of her for having an opinion".

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2067265/YouTube-video-Transport-police-arrest-tram-passenger-vile-racist-rant.html

No need to wonder,.......


I'm pleased to read this part


The arrest follows an appeal by the British Transport officers who asked the media to publicise the video to help identify her.

[Chuck]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/11/28/article-2067265-0EF97FCB00000578-473_468x494.jpg

That screenshot makes it look as if that black woman is about to attack her. lmao

[fruit_cake]

On that video, she's comes across to me as being on drugs and her actions are a total disgrace but the only thing that worries me with all of this, is that we have not seen the complete story

[arista]

In Todays Mirror
its reported she was Only Arrested and taken in
for her own safety.

So Not Charged.


Ref: SkyNewsHD Live Paper Review.

[Barbie]

Bit weird how she suddenly just started.

She is clearly ill educated, she couldnt even say Nigeria. She is in such a minority its unbelieveable

[Benjamin]

Bit weird how she suddenly just started.

She is clearly ill educated, she couldnt even say Nigeria. She is in such a minority its unbelieveable

It was a mix of Nigeria, Nicaragua and Siberia. Cracked up junkie.

[Chuck]

I thought she was trying to say n!ggerland

[Marc]

:joker: it was funny how she couldn't pronounce it

[Benjamin]

Go back to Si-fu*cking-Nig-Nigracua. /crackhead


I may have to make that a stop on my travels. :hugesmile:

[Chuck]

http://i.imgur.com/FTwfx.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rOCPv.jpg

oh dear

[fruit_cake]

crikey if she's reached as far as Brazil, she'll make a fortune by selling her story now. I can just about read that Chuck.

[Niall]

Omg Chuck :laugh:

[arista]

crikey if she's reached as far as Brazil, she'll make a fortune by selling her story now. I can just about read that Chuck.


Yes she has gone Global Viral


Like fenton did.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

fenton > this ****

[Niamh.]

I hope she doesn't profit from this. That would be a ****ing disgrace.

[Jordan.]

Don't know if it's already posted but theres another

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2068040/Youre-country-talk-language-Second-woman-filmed-hurling-vile-racist-abuse.html

SaE8-3_POwM

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

'tawk ma langwej'

stupid ****

[arista]

In Todays Mirror
its reported she was Only Arrested and taken in
for her own safety.

So Not Charged.


Ref: SkyNewsHD Live Paper Review.


I hope you are aware she was not Charged
kept at the police staion to keep her safe

[Sticks]

The reports I had heard were that magistrates referred her to prison "for her own safety"

Using that excuse you could lock someone up indefinitely without trial

[Pyramid*]

Don't know if it's already posted but theres another

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2068040/Youre-country-talk-language-Second-woman-filmed-hurling-vile-racist-abuse.html

SaE8-3_POwM


It's not often I actually have the urge to punch someone hard in the gob....but I find myself wanting to do it with this piece of trash.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

I've never seen or heard someone been so racist in all my life.:devil:

[arista]

The reports I had heard were that magistrates referred her to prison "for her own safety"

Using that excuse you could lock someone up indefinitely without trial

Maybe they need a Mental Hospital

[Livia]

This woman is a disgrace, as everyone has said. However... not so long ago there was a thread on here about the idiot who made fake facebook accounts in order to taunt most cruelly the family of a dead teenager. There were more than a few posts on here claiming that he was treated harshly and suggesting that he was allowed to say pretty much what he wanted because we supposedly have "free speech" in this country. Have those posters changed their minds now?

[arista]

I've never seen or heard someone been so racist in all my life.:devil:



you need to get out more

[Niall]

Don't know if it's already posted but theres another

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2068040/Youre-country-talk-language-Second-woman-filmed-hurling-vile-racist-abuse.html

SaE8-3_POwM

Stupid ****ing bitch.

Honestly the ignorance and rudeness of some people in this country astounds me. Does she have no shame? I hope she looks back at that and not only feels extremely embarrassed for her actions, but also sees what a vulgar person she truly is.

[Pyramid*]

This woman is a disgrace, as everyone has said. However... not so long ago there was a thread on here about the idiot who made fake facebook accounts in order to taunt most cruelly the family of a dead teenager. There were more than a few posts on here claiming that he was treated harshly and suggesting that he was allowed to say pretty much what he wanted because we supposedly have "free speech" in this country. Have those posters changed their minds now?


Excellent memory recall Livia.

Yes, I'd be interested to know if those same posters still have the same opinions that they were vehemently defending in that other thread.

In fact, i recall the names of some of them..... and I believe some may have posted on this very thread!

[arista]

Excellent memory recall Livia.

Yes, I'd be interested to know if those same posters still have the same opinions that they were vehemently defending in that other thread.

In fact, i recall the names of some of them..... and I believe some may have posted on this very thread!



Name the posters


Is it Sticks?

[fruit_cake]

Stick has made a good point, this kind of situation always gets used to take away yet more civil liberties that our grandparents fought two wars to protect in my opinion

[Pyramid*]

Name the posters


Is it Sticks?

I don't think that would be entirely fair. They know who they are themselves and if they wish to make themselves known & offer comment, that's their own decision.

Stick has made a good point, this kind of situation always gets used to take away yet more civil liberties that our grandparents fought two wars to protect in my opinion

I'm interested in how you come to this opinion and what exactly you mean by it?.

[fruit_cake]

I don't think that would be entirely fair. They know who they are themselves and if they wish to make themselves known & offer comment, that's their own decision.



I'm interested in how you come to this opinion and what exactly you mean by it?.

Sticks said that the woman had been detained 'for her own good'. In other words, she is being detained because people don't like her, not because she's been proven guilty of a crime.

That's called rule of the mob unless I'm very much mistaken.

[arista]

I don't think that would be entirely fair. They know who they are themselves and if they wish to make themselves known & offer comment, that's their own decision.





Of Course Its Fair
They posted it

Show me a Example ?

[fruit_cake]

Of Course Its Fair
They posted it

Show me a Example ?

this

[Pyramid*]

Sticks said that the woman had been detained 'for her own good'. In other words, she is being detained because people don't like her, not because she's been proven guilty of a crime.

That's called rule of the mob unless I'm very much mistaken.

Really...so the police arrest people just for the sheer hell of 'mob rule ?

There was me thinking that that was only part of the reason - given that she has in fact, actually committed a crime.


Yesterday, Emma West, 34, of New Addington, London, was remanded in custody on a racial harassment charge after a video showing her allegedly abusing passengers aboard a tram while balancing a toddler on her knee appeared on the internet.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2068040/Youre-country-talk-language-Second-woman-filmed-hurling-vile-racist-abuse.html#ixzz1fDQoK2It



Of Course Its Fair
They posted it

Show me a Example ?

Nope....... that's for those concerned Arista to show their feelings on both sides of the coin.

[fruit_cake]

Really...so the police arrest people just for the sheer hell of 'mob rule ?

There was me thinking that that was only part of the reason - given that she has in fact, actually committed a crime.




Nope....... that's for those concerned Arista to show their feelings on both sides of the coin.

well Sticks says the magistrate remanded her 'for her own safety' which is obviously not the same as a 'racial harassment charge'

[Pyramid*]

well Sticks says the magistrate remanded her 'for her own safety' which is obviously not the same as a 'racial harassment charge'

Ah right. So as long as Sticks says something: to hell with the actual FACTS as laid down by the Laws of this land and those in charge of upholding such Laws.....

Maybe next time you might want to check up on the full state of play.



:joker:

[fruit_cake]

Ah right. So as long as Sticks says something: to hell with the actual FACTS as laid down by the Laws of this land and those in charge of upholding such Laws.....

Maybe next time you might want to check up on the full state of play.



:joker:

actually you might want to check up first, as later in the article it says this:

She was remanded in custody on Monday night 'for her own protection', after complaints were made in relation to the footage uploaded to YouTube.
Following an appearance at Croydon Magistrates Court, West was kept in custody again over fears of 'revenge attacks' after the video of her alleged rant swept the internet.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2068040/Youre-country-talk-language-Second-woman-filmed-hurling-vile-racist-abuse.html#ixzz1fDSdg2lu

:joker:

[Pyramid*]

Really...so the police arrest people just for the sheer hell of 'mob rule ?

There was me thinking that that was only part of the reason - given that she has in fact, actually committed a crime.



actually you might want to check up first, as later in the article it says this:






See the crucial part of reading posts Fruitcake: is to absorb what is written, rather than be very selective in what you wish to read. So if anyone wants to be checking things first, it is you, not I.

It makes life so much simpler - don't you think.

[fruit_cake]

Actually, I believe you'll find Sticks was referring to the reason she was put in prison. NOT the reason she was arrested.

[arista]

Nope....... that's for those concerned Arista to show their feelings on both sides of the coin.


Get Off the Fence

Name Them

Or do not bother talking about them

[arista]

Ah right. So as long as Sticks says something: to hell with the actual FACTS as laid down by the Laws of this land and those in charge of upholding such Laws.....

Maybe next time you might want to check up on the full state of play.



:joker:


Leave sticks Alone
He is autistic, he has told us before.

[Pyramid*]

Actually, I believe you'll find Sticks was referring to the reason she was put in prison. NOT the reason she was arrested.


I was in discussion with you.... not Sticks.

You didn't read my post correctly, that's the bottom line.

Get Off the Fence

Name Them

Or do not bother talking about them

Nah, on all three counts.

[fruit_cake]

your just not quick enough Pyramid better luck next time

[Pyramid*]

Leave sticks Alone
He is autistic, he has told us before.

I have no issue with Sticks. I'm addressing Fruitcake, I am point out that Fruitcake is the one using other people's posts as being the only facual information, and her not taking into account anything further than what Sticks had commented on. Nothing to do with Sticks...it's to do with Fruitcake not reading posts correctly, nor updating herself with current infol.

Perhaps wind it in Arisa before jumping down the wrong people's throats.

[fruit_cake]

I've read all your posts, what are you on about now

[Pyramid*]

your just not quick enough Pyramid better luck next time


I think anyone reading this post will see who's made a fundamental error here FC - that being you jumping in and not reading posts correctly, nor in you finding out a bit more about a story that is current.

[Pyramid*]

I've read all your posts, what are you on about now

Your inability to read posts fully or carefully - in some petty attempt to point score.

[fruit_cake]

erm..point score with who? I'm my own person, If I scored points, I'd keep them for myself.

Sticks made a valid point and I agreed with it. The woman was remanded because the magistrate said it was for 'her own safety'

That's not a just reason to remand someone imo.

[arista]

I have no issue with Sticks. I'm addressing Fruitcake, I am point out that Fruitcake is the one using other people's posts as being the only facual information, and her not taking into account anything further than what Sticks had commented on. Nothing to do with Sticks...it's to do with Fruitcake not reading posts correctly, nor updating herself with current infol.

Perhaps wind it in Arisa before jumping down the wrong people's throats.


Nothing Wrong with Jumping

[arista]

Your inability to read posts fully or carefully - in some petty attempt to point score.


you need to Color Code it

[Pyramid*]

erm..point score with who? I'm my own person, If I scored points, I'd keep them for myself.

Sticks made a valid point and I agreed with it. The woman was remanded because the magistrate said it was for 'her own safety'

That's not a just reason to remand someone imo.

No, perhaps not, and I did not infer it was: I pointed out very clearly, that that was not the only reason she had been remanded..... another reason being that she has apparently broken the law and has been remanded for that reason.

Sometimes it's better to consider all the info, rather than just a tiny little select part of it.

[Pyramid*]

Nothing Wrong with Jumping

Don't expect me to not raise it with you when you are in the wrong though.

[Jordan.]

What the bloody hell is going on in here

http://blogfiles.wfmu.org/KF/2010/07/14/gif_cat_hover250.gif

[arista]

Don't expect me to not raise it with you when you are in the wrong though.


Of Course.


all I want to know is the Posts that have what you claim.

[fruit_cake]

No, perhaps not, and I did not infer it was: I pointed out very clearly, that that was not the only reason she had been remanded..... another reason being that she has apparently broken the law and has been remanded for that reason.

Sometimes it's better to consider all the info, rather than just a tiny little select part of it.

yes, but you are wrong unfortunately.

Your quote was why she was arrested. NOT why she was remanded, which is what Sticks quote was explaining, and why I was agreeing with him.

she was arrested on a racial charge.
She was remanded 'for her own safety'

neither myself or Sticks ever even mentioned her arrest.

[arista]

What the bloody hell is going on in here

http://blogfiles.wfmu.org/KF/2010/07/14/gif_cat_hover250.gif



Its a 3 way tiff


Or Maybe 2 against 1 Tiff

[fruit_cake]

I bet Pyramid probably agrees with us anyway. She's just annoyed that she's been caught out doing what she accuses others of imo.

[arista]

I bet Pyramid probably agrees with us anyway. She's just annoyed that she's been caught out doing what she accuses others of imo.

No she is not Online at the moment.


I like Annoyed Women - they can be Sexy

[Doogle]

No she is not Online at the moment.


I like Annoyed Women - they can be Sexy

:laugh3:

[Chuck]

:laugh3:

[arista]

Off Topic
there was a Cross Talk debate just on RT.News
and the lady who was Angry was well Hot



The Woman on the Tram Video is Crazy
thats like a Death Wish Person

[Sticks]

For the record I never heard of that thread about that person making up facebook accounts, so I was not one of those who commented on it.

Also for the record I am a full supporter of the multi cultural society, something if I heard correctly our current PM does not believe in.

[Pyramid*]

yes, but you are wrong unfortunately.

Your quote was why she was arrested. NOT why she was remanded, which is what Sticks quote was explaining, and why I was agreeing with him.

she was arrested on a racial charge.
She was remanded 'for her own safety'

neither myself or Sticks ever even mentioned her arrest.


Originally Posted by Pyramid* http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/blue/viewpost.gif (http://thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4791326#post4791326)
Really...so the police arrest people just for the sheer hell of 'mob rule ?

There was me thinking that that was only part of the reason - given that she has in fact, actually committed a crime.


You seem to be missing the critical point FC - . I mentioned her being arrested because I corrected you in your thoughts / comments that that the police took her into custody for her own protection only and that was mob rule ..... when in fact - the full story is that she was also arrested because of her criminal offence. You simply are unwilling to accept that you did not consider the full facts.

I wasn't debating anything with Sticks..... I was debating what you meant with regards to what our grandfathers fought for in two world wars.

[Pyramid*]

I bet Pyramid probably agrees with us anyway. She's just annoyed that she's been caught out doing what she accuses others of imo.

No. difference is: if I'm wrong, I will admit it. Unlike your good self.

[Pyramid*]

For the record I never heard of that thread about that person making up facebook accounts, so I was not one of those who commented on it.

Also for the record I am a full supporter of the multi cultural society, something if I heard correctly our current PM does not believe in.

I'm 100% sure you weren't either Sticks.

I'm also 100% in agreement with your 2nd paragraph